Joker Vs Iron Man

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Senor Cage
Both get 10 days to prep.

https://i.imgur.com/ZGbS20Y.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/qkgwT47.jpg

MrMind
Tony

Senor Cage
Originally posted by MrMind
Tony

What does Tony bring to the table?

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Senor Cage
What does Tony bring to the table? Billionaire level resources, an arsenal of already existing armors and other tech. The real question is what does Joker bring to the table because this isn't a comic with dozens of characters he can backstab and steal shit from, he needs to come of with his own resources and inventions here.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Billionaire level resources, an arsenal of already existing armors and other tech. The real question is what does Joker bring to the table because this isn't a comic with dozens of characters he can backstab and steal shit from, he needs to come of with his own resources and inventions here.

Joker Venom which infects Amazonian goddesses, gets through GL and SC shields, infects undead zombies, were-cheetahs, Atlanteans, Motherbox enhanced cyborgs, superintelligent telepathic gorillas, toxin specialists etc etc.

Sometimes all at once.

Senor Cage
Batman has just as many resources, if not more. Same could be said with current Luthor, but Joker bested both of them.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Batman has just as many resources, if not more. Same could be said with current Luthor, but Joker bested both of them. And it was done in a straigt up collision after a certain amount of time where someone set a clock and said "when the timer hits 0 it's on!"?

Smurph
We need a more detailed scenario to imagine a way Joker can win.

Forum settings mean a featureless environment. Joker walks in with all of his Joker venom and Tony nukes him.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Smurph
Joker walks in with all of his Joker venom and Tony nukes him. Exactly, especially with standard starting distance, I'm not denying that Joker works in a scenraio but he's not a forum prep battle type of guy. He needs a scenario to properly function and pull his shit.

Senor Cage
Prep fight. Both have an equal amount of prep.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Exactly, especially with standard starting distance, I'm not denying that Joker works in a scenraio but he's not a forum prep battle type of guy. He needs a scenario to properly function and pull his shit.

Yeah, good post.

Smurph
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Exactly, especially with standard starting distance, I'm not denying that Joker works in a scenraio but he's not a forum prep battle type of guy. He needs a scenario to properly function and pull his shit. Yeah. The kind of prep Joker needs to do to win would break standard forum rules. Something like kidnap Pepper Potts or mind control Wonder Woman to create the distraction.

ShadowFyre
Tony wtf shitstomps

Old Man Whirly!
Tony might actually be Joker's worst nightmare, Tony is completely ruthless at the top of his game and has a history of shit like Sols Anvil. Tony will lobotomise and kill opponents. Stark can be a total dick at times

Senor Cage
Joker is too unpredictable. He'd probably mind screw Tony like He does Bruce.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Joker is too unpredictable. He'd probably mind screw Tony like He does Bruce. Do you even read the replies or think about a thread before/after you make/made it?

Senor Cage
Sure. Anyway, Tony gets Jokerized?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Parmaniac
And it was done in a straigt up collision after a certain amount of time where someone set a clock and said "when the timer hits 0 it's on!"?

Yes, Justice League #13. Luthor straight up preps for Joker, only to find out he's been outprepped.

Galan007
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Do you even read the replies or think about a thread before/after you make/made it? Originally posted by Senor Cage
Sure. Anyway, Tony gets Jokerized? laughing out loud

Parmaniac
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, Justice League #13. Luthor straight up preps for Joker, only to find out he's been outprepped. As in he messed with his shit?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Parmaniac
As in he messed with his shit?

It starts with Luthor prepping for Joker using a force field to block Joker gas - but Joker had already prepped for that and created a special blend that goes through forcefields.

Then skips to the present, with Luthor trying to get into his secret cabinet of toys, only to find Joker had wrecked it all. And infected every member of the Legion who Luthor had invited up to the moon. And turned the entire base into a deathtrap for Luthor.

Whilst Luthor had been prepping to take out Joker.

Old Man Whirly!
Yeah, people may not like me saying this but Tony is a winner. Lex isn't. Tony overcomes his demons be they drink, damaged heart etc etc. He is in a way Batman +.

StiltmanFTW
Lex is a moron fixated on inserting glowing green rocks in some alien's anus.

And somehow people read that shit. Gross.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It starts with Luthor prepping for Joker using a force field to block Joker gas - but Joker had already prepped for that and created a special blend that goes through forcefields.

Then skips to the present, with Luthor trying to get into his secret cabinet of toys, only to find Joker had wrecked it all. And infected every member of the Legion who Luthor had invited up to the moon. And turned the entire base into a deathtrap for Luthor.

Whilst Luthor had been prepping to take out Joker. https://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/56471313_Justice_League_2018-_013-011.jpg https://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/56471314_Justice_League_2018-_013-013.jpg

This is basically proofing what I said before

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Exactly, especially with standard starting distance, I'm not denying that Joker works in a scenraio but he's not a forum prep battle type of guy. He needs a scenario to properly function and pull his shit.

as for the special gas
https://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/56471312_Justice_League_2018-_013-006.jpg

and proof that Joker acually is not making that shit himself
https://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/56471315_Justice_League_2018-_013-003.jpg

This isn't a scenario like this, this is Stark in his lab/factory with his resources having 10 days to come up with shit, he's not reachable in any way for Joker. Same goes for Joker after that they get teleported into the standard arena at standard starting distance. Joker is getting ****ed here.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Parmaniac


This isn't a scenario like this, this is Stark in his lab/factory with resources having 10 days to come up with shit he's not reachable in any wayfor Joker. Same goes for Joker after that they get teleported into the standard arena at standard starting distance. Joker is getting ****ed here.
Where do you get this?

Parmaniac
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where do you get this? Originally posted by Senor Cage
Both get 10 days to prep.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t461496.html

"Prep time
Neither side receives any notable prep time before the starting bell unless the thread starter specifies it. Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell."

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Parmaniac
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t461496.html

"Prep time
Neither side receives any notable prep time before the starting bell unless the thread starter specifies it. Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell."

Sorry, edited to clarify the point I am after - where does it say Tony is not reachable in any way by Joker? Pepper et al?

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Parmaniac
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t461496.html

"Prep time
Neither side receives any notable prep time before the starting bell unless the thread starter specifies it. Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell." Messing up someone's gear is quite offensive to me.

To be fair it's not saying anything about the resources but I swear it was written there back in the day.

"Last edited by Galan007 on Apr 12th, 2019 at 12:39 AM" of course the power drunken mod had to change things in his sick vision once again.

But no access to resources would make no sense, because they would be sitting there for 10 days doing nothing really. And it would make Jokers quest to temper with Stark's tech even more difficult if Stark was just sitting on his ass waiting for the bell if he could somehow reach out to him.

StiltmanFTW
Parm.

Start using imgBB like every decent human being these days.

Or at least imgur.

Gawd.

StiltmanFTW
But the links work and you're right here, I'm just having too much time and nitpicking.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Messing up someone's gear is quite offensive to me.

To be fair it's not saying anything about the resources but I swear it was written there back in the day.

"Last edited by Galan007 on Apr 12th, 2019 at 12:39 AM" of course the power drunken mod had to change things in his sick vision once again.

But no access to resources would make no sense, because they would be sitting there for 10 days doing nothing really. And it would make Jokers quest to temper with Stark's tech even more difficult if Stark was just sitting on his ass waiting for the bell if he could somehow reach out to him.

Yah that's what I mean, I couldn't see where it's not allowed that Joker couldn't spend ten days going after Tony personally or his loved ones. That's kinda his MO.

Philosophía
I almost always visualize prep battles as taking place in some kind of shared Universe with access to resources, and not just them being teleported to the battleground in a "So...what armor have you built?" type of way.

Smurph

Parmaniac
I always imagened it like in Battlezones, everyone does their shit and then the bell rings and it's on.

DarkSaint85
@Phildo: same. Forum rules state they can operate at peak efficiency.

But yeah, Joker isn't out teching Iron Man. Tony will show up with a Jokerbuster armour specially designed for him, and it will fail because Tony sucks when creating specialised armours lol.

Parmaniac
At least we can all agree that Galan is to blame here.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Parmaniac
I always imagened it like in Battlezones, everyone does their shit and then the bell rings and it's on. Yeah, I guess it also kind of depends on match-ups. Many chars' prep would also involve some kind of environment prep . Almost like a comic plot but with actual efficiency and no PIS - Iron Man tries to take him out and Punisher is prepared for him -- not a "you're teleported in a Cell Games ring, go!".

It gets murky when the prep involves interaction between the characters themselves in some way or another.

BruceSkywalker
Joker gets vaporized by Stark with the greatest of ease

DarkSaint85

krisblaze
Incredible showing for Joker, but I'm not sure how that equates to him beating Tony with equal prep.
It feels more like Joker having decided to attack Luthor before he got in the game, it's no the same.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by krisblaze
Incredible showing for Joker, but I'm not sure how that equates to him beating Tony with equal prep.
It feels more like Joker having decided to attack Luthor before he got in the game, it's no the same.

Parm missed the preceding scan where Luthor talks about how he's prepped for Joker.

krisblaze
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Parm missed the preceding scan where Luthor talks about how he's prepped for Joker.
Yes, but I assumed that Joker made it into Lex's base prior to Lex beginning his prep.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes, but I assumed that Joker made it into Lex's base prior to Lex beginning his prep.

No, they were living together on the moon.

So the comic starts with them fighting, then Joker joins Lex, who then breaks his promise, which leads to the fight.

krisblaze
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, they were living together on the moon.

So the comic starts with them fighting, then Joker joins Lex, who then breaks his promise, which leads to the fight.
Sounds like Lex got destroyed then.
Insane showing for Joker.

DarkSaint85
Justice League #13.

Joker also phucks the entire Legion of Doom (Sinestro, Grodd, Cheetah etc) over just to mess with Lex.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by krisblaze
Sounds like Lex got destroyed then.

It's sort of a tradition at this point.

Normal showing for Joker.

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