Mortals using hakai energy?

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Mendax
Since we know the destruction energy from a GOD can be overcome if the other fighter's ki is higher (see Golden Frieza vs. Sidra's energy and GOD Toppo vs Vegeta), then is it also possible for a sufficiently powerful non-GOD to learn how to produce hakai energy themselves. like they could with any other normal attack?

NotAllThatEvil
I assume its similar to god ki. Probably with a ritual or something, but you can't figure out just with push ups

NewGuy01
I mean, Vegeta more or less achieved god ki with push ups.

Galan007
In the manga Goku actually used Hakai energy against Immortal Zamasu. Even stated that he stole the trick from Beerus.

Mendax
Originally posted by Galan007
In the manga Goku actually used Hakai energy against Immortal Zamasu. Even stated that he stole the trick from Beerus. When did this happen?

And why would he even bother if hakai energy can't kill true immortals? erm

Galan007
Chapter 25:
https://i.imgur.com/FNaQKJH.png
https://i.imgur.com/Cgvx69I.png
https://i.imgur.com/QktbcFE.png

Dunno. It *seemed* to be working, but it was erasing Zamasu at a much slower rate, so he was able to regen from it.

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