Oberyn Martell vs. The Hound

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carthage
Same circumstance as the fight with Mountain
To the death

Who wins

riv6672
Bane dies.

Psychotron
The Hound. He has much better feats, like beating Berric, defeating multiple opponents at once, cutting through plate armor, stalemating Gregor and holding his own against Zombie!Gregor, even overpowering him and pushing him through a brick wall.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Psychotron
The Hound. He has much better feats, like beating Berric, defeating multiple opponents at once, cutting through plate armor, stalemating Gregor and holding his own against Zombie!Gregor, even overpowering him and pushing him through a brick wall. He'd be lucky to lay a glove on Oberyn.

Psychotron
The Mountain caught him at least once and tossed him across the arena (instead of just finishing him there) and broke his spear too. The Hound will have no problem.

Arachnid1
Oberyn would shred him unless he draws it out and showboats like an idiot again (which he honestly might if this is in an arena with onlookers). The Hound is ferocious but Oberyn is more skilled.

NotAllThatEvil
Does oberyn still have a hate boner? I got the feeling he could have killed the mountain a few times if he wasn't trying to goad out a confession

Robtard
The Hound's my favorite character and by far the more skilled fighter compared to his stupid brother. But if Oberyn isn't playing around trying to make the fight last longer, he would win here. He's faster, more agile, the more skilled fighter and has the reach advantage with his spear.

I'd give Oberyn 7 out of 10 in a multi-match setting.

KingD19
As everyone else has pointed out, The Red Viper wanted revenge and a confession. Thats the only reason he volunteered to fight, and its why the fight took so damn long and ultimately why he lost. If he'd been level headed and focused, and this was some random he just wanted to be done with? It wouldn't have lasted long at all.

Adam Grimes
Yeah, Oberyn would kill him fairly quickly.

Psychotron
All of you Oberyn wankers are forgetting that:
A) the Mountain caught him a few times
B) he had to cheat with poison to wear down Gregor
C) being a flamboyant homo is fully in character for him, so he will try to showboat against Sandor, which will get him killed (again)

xPRIMEx
The Viper wins

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KingD19
Originally posted by Psychotron
All of you Oberyn wankers are forgetting that:
A) the Mountain caught him a few times
B) he had to cheat with poison to wear down Gregor
C) being a flamboyant homo is fully in character for him, so he will try to showboat against Sandor, which will get him killed (again)

A)Him showing off and caring more about getting him tired and wounded enough to talk is why he got caught. He took unnecessary risks multiple times because of his revenge plan. Its obvious Gregor could never catch him, especially in his full armor, if Oberyn was fully focused.

B) Thats his fighting style, its no more cheating than Mounatin using a sword normal people can't even lift up and armor you can't penetrate with normal weapons because he's so damn big. Or Arthur Dayne using two swords, or Daario using his dagger.

C)Homo? The only person with more kids than Oberyn is Walder Frey. He might be bi, but he definitely wasn't gay, which would have nothing to do with combat anyway. And he was flashy against Mountain for a reason, that reason doesn't exist for Sandor, so he has no reason to act that way.

Its funny how hard you seem to be wanking the Cleganes and ignoring all the context.

Psychotron
A) Speculation. Even so, him showing off is 100% in character.
B) Oh, it's cheating. Poison isn't allowed in those trials. It's extremely dishonorable.
C) He's flamboyant in general, regardless of his sexuality. That's his personality. He didn't need to act that way to get a confession out of Gregor. He did it because he enjoys showing off in front of a crowd.

KingD19
Originally posted by Psychotron
A) Speculation. Even so, him showing off is 100% in character.
B) Oh, it's cheating. Poison isn't allowed in those trials. It's extremely dishonorable.
C) He's flamboyant in general, regardless of his sexuality. That's his personality. He didn't need to act that way to get a confession out of Gregor. He did it because he enjoys showing off in front of a crowd.

A)How is it speculation when we see for the entire fight, Oberyn only gets caught when he's cocky and underestimating Gregor. Like at the end when he had him barely able to move, lying on his back, and instead of stabbing him in the face, he turned around and started monologuing. Him showing off against the Mountain is in character, because of that pesky context I talked about before. The whole reason he fought him in front of everybody is that he wanted a confession in front of the Kingdom. Did you not watch Game of Thrones?

B)That's speculation on your part. Nowhere in any written description of the Trial by Combat does it mention poison is against the rules. The rule is, whoever wins is considered the correct party in that particular argument.

C) Him being flamboyant doesn't mean anything. You keep ignoring he showed out for the crowd to embarrass The Mountain in front of the people who were so scared of him. All descriptions of him in real fights are way different from that one instance. And there's no crowd for him to show off for, nor someone who he wants dead more than he wants to live(so he throws caution to the wind) in this fight. So why would he act like an idiot when he doesn't have a reason, like getting revenge for his family being murdered because some guy had a bad day.

Psychotron
A) It's speculation because we've never seen Oberyn fight "seriously". The Mountain caught him a few times and broke his spear, which would have been a death sentence for Oberyn on a battlefield. That's a fact.
B) Nope, posion is against the rules. It's a trial in front of the gods ffs. Nobody else uses poison even though it would be a massive advantage because they'd be ****ed later. Oberyn didn't care about fighting fair or saving Tyrion, he wanted Gregor to suffer.
C)Did you even read the OP? "Same circumstance as the fight with Mountain". There's a crowd and Oberyn will act like a clown again, while Sandor won't give a shit and carve him up. The Hound is faster than his brother, more skilled, and strong enough to cleave through chainmail and plate. He has also done better against a superior version of Gregor.

HulkIsHulk
Oberyn had Mountain impaled and helpless on the floor. The fact that he pulled the spear out without going for the killing blow shows that he was not going for the kill unless he confessed. There is no speculation about it.

NemeBro
Originally posted by Psychotron
A) It's speculation because we've never seen Oberyn fight "seriously". The Mountain caught him a few times and broke his spear, which would have been a death sentence for Oberyn on a battlefield. That's a fact.

Luckily for Oberyn, that wasn't a battlefield and neither is this thread.



So what? He has the poison here just like he did in the show.



Sandor is also generally not as well-armoured as his brother, has less reach, and he doesn't have as much strength or endurance. After being speared Sandor won't have the strength to kill Oberyn like the Mountain did; he was badly weakened by a "mere" ear infection to the point Brienne frankly stomped him whereas Gregor was speared twice by Oberyn's poison spear and still had the strength to literally crush his skull.

Sandor can win, but he probably won't.

Trocity
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
He'd be lucky to lay a glove on Oberyn.

laughing out loud Well said.

Tyson Fury. thumb up

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by KingD19
If he'd been level headed and focused

Drinking before the fight probably wasn't the best idea, either stick out tongue

relentless1
Oberyn was outclassing the Mountain by quite a large margin and he was showboating the entire time, the Hound may be a bit more agile than Gregor but not by much; he dies if Oberyn isn't playing around id reckon

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Trocity
laughing out loud Well said.

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