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Left-wingers kill almost a thousand innocent, defenseless unborn babies in this country every single damn day.

No one so much as even bats an eye over it. But, sure... it's "da right-wingas!" that are da real threat... riiiiiight.

How many of those are black too?

Probably most of them.


But remember, black lives only truly matter when it is a white cop taking one, regardless of whether the killing was justified or not.

Any other time? Nah, black lives don't matter then.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Left-wingers kill almost a thousand innocent, defenseless unborn babies in this country every single damn day.

No one so much as even bats an eye over it. But, sure... it's "da right-wingas!" that are da real threat... riiiiiight. Love the reeeeeligious spin, because Abortion is murder. Top notch tolerance.

So sorry the fact that left-wingers are the true mass murderers has triggered you, pooty.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
So sorry the fact that left-wingers are the true mass murderers has triggered you, pooty. Those bloodthirsty women wanting control over their own bodies.

Yawn.

Keep denying reality that it is leftists that are the real mass murderers if it makes ya fee fees feel better.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yawn.

Keep denying reality that it is leftists that are the real mass murderers if it makes ya fee fees feel better. This is a reeeeligion vs. Freedom issue. I'm glad you are down with KSA and other Islamic states here, but not the the majority of your own country people. Top notch

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yawn.

Keep denying reality that it is leftists that are the real mass murderers if it makes ya fee fees feel better.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Love the reeeeeligious spin, because Abortion is murder. Top notch tolerance.

At what point, if any, do you think a pregnant woman should not be allowed to get an abortion? Assuming she is otherwise healthy.

Originally posted by Surtur
At what point, if any, do you think a pregnant woman should not be allowed to get an abortion? Assuming she is otherwise healthy. if you look at the Abortion thread here going back years, you will easily find out. My posts on this subject are 2005.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
if you look at the Abortion thread here going back years, you will easily find out. My posts on this subject are 2005.

Lol or you could just answer now instead of tasking me with hunting down a 15 year old post.

usually 16 weeks would be my time limit. 16-20 for me requires a real reason why it wasn't done beforehand in law.

Okay and for what reason did you choose 16 weeks?

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay and for what reason did you choose 16 weeks? level of development of nervous system. Up till around 20-24 weeks a baby is a parasite and part of the mother, it can't survive without her.

So you consider it a life at that point?

Intriguing.

What do you feel the consequences should be for a woman who is 8 months pregnant who gets a back alley abortion(she is otherwise healthy so she isn't doing it because her life is at risk) ? Should she be charged with a crime and if so what crime?

Originally posted by Surtur
So you consider it a life at that point?

Intriguing.

What do you feel the consequences should be for a woman who is 8 months pregnant who gets a back alley abortion(she is otherwise healthy so she isn't doing it because her life is at risk) ? Should she be charged with a crime and if so what crime? i consider it a life when it is able to survive on it's own. I believe as it approaches this point it is less a parasitic growth and more a protohuman daily. This time will change for individuals so an arbitrary time stamp has to be placed.

Originally posted by Surtur
So you consider it a life at that point?

Intriguing.

What do you feel the consequences should be for a woman who is 8 months pregnant who gets a back alley abortion(she is otherwise healthy so she isn't doing it because her life is at risk) ? Should she be charged with a crime and if so what crime? Im not a lawyer, this kind of question requires far more ethical perspectives than we are likely to provide here. Of course when a woman loses a baby even intentionally you can expect some blow back. This is not ever a simple situation.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
i consider it a life when it is able to survive on it's own. I believe as it approaches this point it is less a parasitic growth and more a protohuman daily. This time will change for individuals so an arbitrary time stamp has to be placed.

Right so what do you think should happen to the 8 months pregnant woman who gets a back alley abortion?

Originally posted by Surtur
Right so what do you think should happen to the 8 months pregnant woman who gets a back alley abortion? i think it needs far more fleshing out as a scenario. A single answer to a question like that will never hold.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Im not a lawyer, this kind of question requires far more ethical perspectives than we are likely to provide here. Of course when a woman loses a baby even intentionally you can expect some blow back. This is not ever a simple situation.

Do you think a woman who is 8 months pregnant and gets a back alley abortion should be punished less severely than a woman who gives birth and immediately chucks the baby off a cliff?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
i think it needs far more fleshing out as a scenario. A single answer to a question like that will never hold.

Okay. Woman is 8 months pregnant and finds out her partner is cheating. Dumps him, decides she just doesn't want his child now. Gets a back alley abortion.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay. Woman is 8 months pregnant and finds out her partner is cheating. Dumps him, decides she just doesn't want his child now. Gets a back alley abortion. is she suicidal, is she going to become suicidal, how do you know etc?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
is she suicidal, is she going to become suicidal, how do you know etc?

For this scenario she isn't suicidal she is just doesn't want the kid upon finding out she was betrayed.

Originally posted by Surtur
For this scenario she isn't suicidal she is just doesn't want the kid upon finding out she was betrayed. What do the psychiatics reports say does she have other children.

No other children, reports say she is of sound mind.

Originally posted by Surtur
No other children, reports say she is of sound mind. then she should be prosecuted, unless other mitigating circumstances appear and come to light. A full report would be needed. That said it will affect her.

It is a human being at conception. Anyone who denies this is denying science. Abortion is murder at any stage of development. Period.

I think this would have been alot easier to dispute if you just used the expression ending/termination of a life rather than murder.

Murder is a legal term.

I almost thought this was going to be a thread about violence in black communities, they vote left. Even if their violence isn't dictated by their political views it's still left leaning individuals pursuing mass violence

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Left-wingers kill almost a thousand innocent, defenseless unborn babies in this country every single damn day.

No one so much as even bats an eye over it. But, sure... it's "da right-wingas!" that are da real threat... riiiiiight.

Hey, retard, you know that conservatives actually get more abortions than liberals, right?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Left-wingers kill almost a thousand innocent, defenseless unborn babies in this country every single damn day.

No one so much as even bats an eye over it. But, sure... it's "da right-wingas!" that are da real threat... riiiiiight.
Originally posted by Surtur
How many of those are black too?


^ The try-hard angle aside, at least they're being honest. They don't believe a woman has a right over her own body.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Hey, retard, you know that conservatives actually get more abortions than liberals, right?

Trying my best to fact check this.

I'm struggling to come up with any answer.


Is Gallup polling over time on pro-choice vs. pro-life:


https://news.gallup.com/poll/246278/abortion-trends-party.aspx


Recently more Dems are becoming pro-life.


I found some very old data from 1996 on abortions and it clearly shows far more Democrats get abortions than Republicans and it also shows a downward trend of Republicans getting abortions, too (but this data is 24 years old):

http://www.roperld.com/politics/abortions.htm



This one is more recent but it doesn't distinguish party affiliation:

https://www.guttmacher.org/report/characteristics-us-abortion-patients-2014



I would say that getting an abortion, you are automatically within a group of people who are pro-choice or pro-situational choice. Women are, on average, more liberal than men. Women of color are also more likely to be Democrats than men, as well. Every marker points to the fact that more Democratic and more liberal women would get an abortion than the opposite. Everything I can find in the data also points to this.


Do you have an alternative source that is far more recent than 1996?