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SSB Vegito from Zamasu saga.

FP Jiren from TOP.


Manga only.

Just using the manga, Vegetto.

Jiren wins. Vegito rivals Beerus and Jiren is stronger than Belmod. None of the GoDs were portrayed as being substantially more powerful than the other. Jiren can stalemate Vegito long enough for the fusion to wear off.

Belmod in the manga isn't the GoD that rivals Beerus. And with the exception of Gohan, who stood toe to toe with Kefla, the saiyans never really got all the insane buffs before they went into their ultimate forms. And during training before the Arc, Beerus casually one-shots Vegeta like an insect. I really don't think Ultra Instince Goku can push Beerus that far, to make Beerus run out of enough energy that base forms would hold any type of ability to hang on in a fight.

Vegito wins.

Originally posted by Marikina
None of the GoDs were portrayed as being substantially more powerful than the other. Yes they were. The manga shows a pretty obvious discrepancy between them all.

Originally posted by Kento
Belmod in the manga isn't the GoD that rivals Beerus. Even in the anime, Belmond was only Beerus' 'rival' because of an arm wrestling match they had at some point in the past.

An arm wrestling match doesn't mean a thing in terms of who would win an all-out battle.

Originally posted by Galan007

Yes they were. The manga shows a pretty obvious discrepancy between them all.


Not really. They all had their moments of oneupping the others and all except one where all banged up in the end.



It was Beerus that tried to dismiss as being merely the matter of an arm wrestling match. Whis made no such qualifier.

Originally posted by Marikina
Not really. They all had their moments of oneupping the others and all except one where all banged up in the end. Beerus was initially out-fighting all of the other Destroyers simultaneously(thanks to his quasi version of UI), and launched a single energy ball that would have apparently killed/incapacitated multiple Destroyers simultaneously(one of whom was Belmond), if Sidra hadn't saved their asses with a force-field. At the end of the match, only Beerus and Quitela were left standing.

So yes, there is a pretty obvious difference between Destroyers, with Beerus being solidly at the top of the totem pole.

Originally posted by Marikina
It was Beerus that tried to dismiss as being merely the matter of an arm wrestling match. Whis made no such qualifier. Beerus stated it was an arm wrestling match and Whis didn't disagree... So that's what it was.

And again: an arm wrestling match(that took place at some undisclosed point in the past, with unknown guidelines) is not indicative of who would win in an all-out fight.

Originally posted by Galan007
Beerus was initially out-fighting all of the other Destroyers simultaneously(thanks to his quasi version of UI), and launched a single energy ball that would have apparently killed/incapacitated multiple Destroyers simultaneously(one of whom was Belmond), if Sidra hadn't saved their asses with a force-field. At the end of the match, only Beerus and Quitela were left standing.

So yes, there is a pretty obvious difference between Destroyers, with Beerus being solidly at the top of the totem pole.

Beerus stated it was an arm wrestling match and Whis didn't disagree... So that's what it was.

And again: an arm wrestling match(that took place at some undisclosed point in the past) isn't at all indicative of who would win in an all-out fight.

Beerus being able to kill his peers when he had the drop on them doesn't say much, and he wasn't strong enough to break through Sidra's barrier. And as Grand Priest pointed out, they hadn't really started fighting seriously yet. And while Beerus and Quitela were the last ones standing they were all beaten up, implying that the others took considerable effort to take down. So as I said, none of the GoDs are portrayed as being significantly stronger than the others.

Originally posted by Marikina
Things weren't serious yet when Beerus was doing his stuff. And while Beerus and Quitela were the last ones standing they were all beaten up, implying that the others took considerable effort to take down. So as I said, none of the GoDs are portrayed as being significantly stronger than the others. What do you mean it wasn't serious yet?

a.) They were in that Exhibition match in the first place because Zen-Oh himself wanted to see them fight... They certainly wouldn't half-ass things in front of the Lord of Existence and Grand Priest.

b.) All of the other Destroyers were pissed at Beerus, which is why they tried to dogpile him at first. As mentioned, they failed due to Beerus activating his version of UI(which allowed him to out-fight the lot of them), and then Beerus very nearly one-shot killed/KO'd multiple Destroyers with a single energy attack.

Literally NO reason to believe the Destroyers were restraining themselves, all context considered.

Yes, Beerus and Quitela were banged up, but they were still up and fighting while all of the other Destroyers were fully incapacitated... Not sure how that doesn't show a significant difference between them?

And Belmond was faking it.


But yeah, Beerus and Quietla were the last ones standing tall.

Originally posted by Galan007
What do you mean it wasn't serious yet?

a.) They were in that Exhibition match in the first place because Zen-Oh himself wanted to see them fight... They certainly wouldn't half-ass things in front of the Lord of Existence and Grand Priest.

b.) All of the other Destroyers were pissed at Beerus, which is why they tried to dogpile him at first. As mentioned, they failed due to Beerus activating his version of UI(which allowed him to out-fight the lot of them), and then Beerus very nearly one-shot killed/KO'd multiple Destroyers with a single energy attack.

Literally NO reason to believe the Destroyers were restraining themselves, all context considered.

Yes, Beerus and Quitela were banged up, but they were still up and fighting while all of the other Destroyers were fully incapacitated... Not sure how that doesn't show a significant difference between them?

Grand Priest said that real match hadn't started yet and Goku said that it was going to get more crazier from that point on. The GoDs weren't restraining themselves but were capable of much more than what they have shown up to that point.

Beerus and Quitela were still standing but it was considerable effort on their part and were clearly exhausted. It seemed more like a rumble between equals which the last two barely edging out the others. Even every Beerus and Champa skirmish has the two being portrayed as being equals.

So we agree that the Destroyers weren't restraining themselves? Good.

As mentioned: Beerus was initially out-fighting all of the other Destroyers simultaneously, and launched a single energy attack that could have killed/incapacitated several of them if Sidra hadn't saved their asses.

Cut to the end of the match, and Beerus/Quitela are the last two Destroyers standing(and Quitela wasn't the least bit surprised by this), and they seemed more than capable of continuing their fight until GP stopped it.

Again, seems like a pretty clear/obvious difference to me.

Vegito wins.

Originally posted by Galan007
So we agree that the Destroyers weren't restraining themselves? Good.

As mentioned: Beerus was initially out-fighting all of the other Destroyers simultaneously, and launched a single energy attack that could have killed/incapacitated several of them if Sidra hadn't saved their asses.

Cut to the end of the match, and Beerus/Quitela are the last two Destroyers standing(and Quitela wasn't the least bit surprised by this), and they seemed more than capable of continuing their fight until GP stopped it.

Again, seems like a pretty clear/obvious difference to me. avatar43335_1

I also agree on Vegetto winning.
Manga Vegetto was the beast he should always be.
Stated to be as strong if not even stronger than Beerus what, 3 arcs ago?
Goku and Vegeta were less than ants compared to what they are now, especially Goku who apparently can go full MUI at will.

Vegetto, if correctly portrayed, is the ultimate weapon in DB.