Man from mostly peaceful religion decapitates teacher over Muhammad cartoons

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Surtur
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/17/europe/paris-suburb-man-decapitated-intl/index.html

Just awful. Thankfully the terrorist was shot and killed thumb up

wxyz
Islam a religion of peace.

eThneoLgrRnae
"Islam is peaceful."- Hillary Clinton

Surely the sweet little saintly Hillary would never, ever lie... right? laughing out loud

Lestov16
-Gynandrotheus

Surtur
Well Lest it seems we agree on some things.

Lestov16
Originally posted by Surtur
Well Lest it seems we agree on some things.

Why do you think I've been trying to show my shit to you? I AM THE ULTIMATE CENTRIST 😶

(Which is why when I say, don't trust Trump, YOU MUST TRUST ME...)

Surtur
What is the Gynandrotheus stuff tho

Lestov16
Originally posted by Surtur
What is the Gynandrotheus stuff tho

WTF??????????????????????????????????????????
DO YOU NOT SEE THE PHUCKING TITLE OF THE MOTHERPHUCKING BLOG? YOU LOOKED AT ALL THE POLITICAL POSTS, AND NOT THIS MOTHERPHUCKING ONE, THE SECOND OLDEST BLOG POST: https://tetraduality.blogspot.com/2020/09/tetradimensional-trinitarian-dualistic.html?m=1

NIGGA
NIGGGGGGHUUUUHHHHHHHH


I'm going back on hiatus. See you guys in the next couple of weeks.

Surtur
I did see it yes I've seen your manifesto, I just meant where did it come from

ArtificialGlory
A fiery, but mostly peaceful decapitation.

Eon Blue
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
"Islam is peaceful."- Hillary Clinton

Surely the sweet little saintly Hillary would never, ever lie... right? laughing out loud

This.

wxyz
The Left: Not all Muslims are Terrorists.

Also The Left: All White people are racist.

cdtm
Originally posted by Surtur
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/17/europe/paris-suburb-man-decapitated-intl/index.html

Just awful. Thankfully the terrorist was shot and killed thumb up

Samuel Paty is the victim's name. I can not find out any more about him.


This is the second Islamic attack in three weeks:

https://apnews.com/article/russia-shootings-chechnya-paris-western-europe-e91953f5c9fa0a4d52e51327d11a47fb

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by wxyz
The Left: Not all Muslims are Terrorists.

Also The Left: All White people are racist.


Yup.

Surtur
The president of France actually referred to this as an "islamist terrorist attack".

Good for him, it's more than our previous president would have done.

wxyz
Obama was the best friend Muslim Terrorists ever had in the White House.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by wxyz
Obama was the best friend Muslim Terrorists ever had in the White House.

Fun Fact: Obama is responsible for the death of the Islamic terrorist who organized the largest act of foreign terrorism on domestic soil, and Trump accepted the endorsement of his neice; so Obama kills Islamic terrorists, and Trump accepts their endorsement for his re-election campaign.

wxyz
I didn't know that being related to a Terrorist makes you a Terrorist.

Good to know.

Surtur
Originally posted by wxyz
Obama was the best friend Muslim Terrorists ever had in the White House.

Bingo.

Fun fact: dude could never bring himself to properly label this. Sure does make anyone crying Trump won't condemn certain groups hypocritical as f*ck.

Adam_PoE
Christian couple murder brother suspected of witchcraft. Just awful. Thankfully these terrorists were jailed for life.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by wxyz
I didn't know that being related to a Terrorist makes you a Terrorist.

Good to know.

Are you confirming that you do not believe in guilt by association?

Surtur
Thank god this vile terrorist was put down.

Adam_PoE
Religion poisons everything.

Surtur
Yeah, especially this religion.

BackFire
I feel like a quick death was too good for this cretin.

Surtur
Originally posted by BackFire
I feel like a quick death was too good for this cretin.

Does France have the death penalty? If not, putting him down was the best thing.

Because 3 square meals a day paid for by tax payers for the next 60 years is also too good for this piece of shit.

BackFire
No idea.

wxyz
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Are you confirming that you do not believe in guilt by association?

thumb up

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Religion poisons everything.

thumb up

Surtur
Just asked my google, banned in 1981.

So yeah, best outcome happened. Since I doubt he'd be kept in solitary all the time. Would probably eventually go on to enjoy some movies, read some books, workout, etc.

Now if he'd be kept in solitary 24/7 and be given stale bread and water twice a day for the rest of his life? Okay that would be good.

BackFire
Islam is such a shit religion.

wxyz
Originally posted by BackFire
Islam is such a shit religion.

It really is.

I worked with a guy who was Muslim and he contradicted himself all the time about his religion.

Anything I brought up that showed Islam was misogynist, homophobic, or supported pedophilia, he dismissed and said I was taking it out of context.

Society would be better off without religion.

Surtur
Originally posted by BackFire
Islam is such a shit religion.

Yup, at least Christianity sort of evolved with the times.

BackFire
Islam is what Christianity would be like if it still largely followed the Old Testament.

Islam should update itself to make itself less crap.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Surtur
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/17/europe/paris-suburb-man-decapitated-intl/index.html

Just awful. Thankfully the terrorist was shot and killed thumb up

I prefer life in prison w/o parole and the reinstitution of hard labor.

ilikecomics
Muslims are an international issue and when confronted with this fact denizens of the most powerful nation on earth display incredulous levels of oikophobia and whataboutism... Very cool.

Surtur
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Muslims are an international issue and when confronted with this fact denizens of the most powerful nation on earth display incredulous levels of oikophobia and whataboutism... Very cool.

Nobody here was sad enough to do that though...

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Christian couple murder brother suspected of witchcraft. Just awful. Thankfully these terrorists were jailed for life.

Oh wait. See I'm gonna be a nice guy and not post link after link of muslim honor killings. Don't wanna embarrass this poor lad!

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by wxyz
Obama was the best friend Muslim Terrorists ever had in the White House.


Yup.


Originally posted by Surtur
Bingo.

Fun fact: dude could never bring himself to properly label this. Sure does make anyone crying Trump won't condemn certain groups hypocritical as f*ck.

Yup again. thumb up

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Religion poisons everything.


Nah, Darwinism poisons everything even more (which is actually a religion itself). thumb up

cdtm
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Muslims are an international issue and when confronted with this fact denizens of the most powerful nation on earth display incredulous levels of oikophobia and whataboutism... Very cool.

Not sure what you're trying to say.

If its that the left says "What about Christianity?", that's true.

If it's that the right says "What about Christianity?", that is also true.


For some reason, both the left and right feel the right owns Christianity, despite the fact 70-65 percent of the country being Christians would logically mean many who vote Democrat are in fact Christian's.

eThneoLgrRnae
I would say the majority of Bible-believing Christian fundamentalists are on the right which is what the earliest Christians actually were. Most of the so-called "Christians" on the left are part of that "progressive Christianity" crap.

They believe in stuff that clearly contradicts the Bible like darwinian evolutionary nonsense, the big bang, billions of years, etc, and they support anti-Christian crap like gay marriage, socialism, anti-self-defense (anti-2nd amendment), and worst of all, abortion.


Many of them don't actually believe that the Bible is infallible or the inspired Word of God. They just view it as a "good book" with "some good advice" in it. Many of them probably also think Jesus was just a very wise, enlightened man and not actually the Son of God or divine in any way.

Blakemore
I love how "the right" are jumping on Adam and promoting anti-Obama rhetoric claiming "the left" are islamic terrorist sympathisers yet ignoring the point he made that Obama killed Bin Laden.

eThneoLgrRnae
That doesn't change the fact that he and Hillary were practically the parents of ISIS or that everytime an Islamic terrorist killed innocent people that Obama and his supporters would deflect to so-called "Christians" doing bad things in the past.

I will still never forget how after ISIS did some horrible shit (iirc, it was after they burned that foreign pilot alive in a cage and put it on the internet) he actually had the nerve to deflect from it by lecturing Christians about the Crusades lmao.

It also doesn't change the fact that Obama made that horrible "deal" with Iran (the largest state sponsor of Islamic terrorism) by giving them billions of dollars. Fortunately, our great president Trump tore that shitty deal up.

cdtm
Originally posted by Blakemore
I love how "the right" are jumping on Adam and promoting anti-Obama rhetoric claiming "the left" are islamic terrorist sympathisers yet ignoring the point he made that Obama killed Bin Laden.


Far as I've seen, most reasonable people on both sides credit Obama.

Some may argue he didn't do it alone, or without a lot of work from past administrations, but that would apply if it was anyone else who got the kill. The fact is, 4-8 years simply isn't long enough to make things happen, and requires a lot of ground work from other admins.


But it was his watch and his kill, no question about that.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Blakemore
I love how "the right" are jumping on Adam and promoting anti-Obama rhetoric claiming "the left" are islamic terrorist sympathisers yet ignoring the point he made that Obama killed Bin Laden.

I love how you're trying to deflect the conversation away from the murderer.

eThneoLgrRnae
If you are gonna give Obama the credit for killing Bin Laden instead of the SEALs themselves then you also have to give Trump credit for taking out notable terrorists as well and pretty much single-handedly defeating ISIS as well.

Under Obama's administration ISIS was running roughshod throughout the ME. Obama kept calling them the JV team even though they just kept gaining more territory. Trump stopped their asses cold though.

Blakemore
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
That doesn't change the fact that he and Hillary were practically the parents of ISIS or that everytime an Islamic terrorist killed innocent people that Obama and his supporters would deflect to so-called "Christians" doing bad things in the past.

I will still never forget how after ISIS did some horrible shit (iirc, it was after they burned that foreign pilot alive in a cage and put it on the internet) he actually had the nerve to deflect from it by lecturing Christians about the Crusades lmao.

It also doesn't change the fact that Obama made that horrible "deal" with Iran (the largest state sponsor of Islamic terrorism) by giving them billions of dollars. Fortunately, our great president Trump tore that shitty deal up. Islamic State was first formed in 1999. This is due to the gulf war (Bush) and the republicans restrictions of Clinton's privileges after the impeachment saying he was quote "obsessed with Bin Laden".

Just shut the **** up.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I would say the majority of Bible-believing Christian fundamentalists are on the right which is what the earliest Christians actually were. Most of the so-called "Christians" on the left are part of that "progressive Christianity" crap.

They believe in stuff that clearly contradicts the Bible like darwinian evolutionary nonsense, the big bang, billions of years, etc, and they support anti-Christian crap like gay marriage, socialism, anti-self-defense (anti-2nd amendment), and worst of all, abortion.


Many of them don't actually believe that the Bible is infallible or the inspired Word of God. They just view it as a "good book" with "some good advice" in it. Many of them probably also think Jesus was just a very wise, enlightened man and not actually the Son of God or divine in any way. For earliest Christians you mean the Syrian and Egyptian Orthodox... I wonder if any posters here apart from myself have visited Coptic Cairo... Ah, Miaphysites! Early Christianity is very funny, to be honest, Christianity post AD451 and the Council of Chalcedon is still pretty funny. But you guys are free to believe the stuff you believe in as long as it doesn't influence politics etc. Old style orthodox Christians look like Jews and Muslims and believe all sorts of weird and wonderful things, not unlike Evangelical Christians today... I find the weaponizing of Christianity by the far right almost as sad as the behaviour of Islamic extremists.

This is Interesting

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2018/holy-hate-far-right%E2%80%99s-radicalization-religion

However, back to topic, yeah this murderer was a scumbag and no loss to the world.

Blakemore
Originally posted by cdtm
Far as I've seen, most reasonable people on both sides credit Obama.

Some may argue he didn't do it alone, or without a lot of work from past administrations, but that would apply if it was anyone else who got the kill. The fact is, 4-8 years simply isn't long enough to make things happen, and requires a lot of ground work from other admins.


But it was his watch and his kill, no question about that. I know, Bush's invasion wasn't just Saddam's regime but the insurgency in Iraq as well. The whole "believed to be linked with Al-Qaeda" was referring to the support of the original ISIL in 1999 that I mentioned earlier. Bin Laden was a key leader and Clinton could have stopped him, but the Republican congress voted to restrict government power.

S_W_LeGenD
PEACE-LOVING superpower USA dethroned competent/popular Islamic leader(s) and brought corrupt stooges to power in their place from time-to-time, established regional proxies (Iran under Shah regime vs. Iraq ; GCC vs. Iran under Khomeini regime), invaded and/or bombed seemingly stable Islamic countries back to the stone age (Iraq in 2003 ; Libya in 2011), and helped establish powerful Salafi Jihadi organizations - all to counter USSR back in the days of the Cold War.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/20/64-years-later-cia-finally-releases-details-of-iranian-coup-iran-tehran-oil/

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5ICjDCVQueg

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/18/world/arming-afghan-guerrillas-a-huge-effort-led-by-us.html

GpfiggClx78

https://digitalcommons.buffalostate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1050&context=history_theses

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/03/18/profile-osama-bin-laden/

"The weapons were supplied by the Americans, the money by the Saudis." - Osama Bin Laden

Majority of those Salafi Jihadi groups regressed into Al-Qaeda Networks and when then one fine day 9/11 happened - an ugly incident which claimed the lives of thousands of innocents including about 500 Muslims in a span of minutes.

And now ISLAM is EVIL and to blame...

PEACE-LOVING superpower USA is the most God-fearing saintly nation on Earth and Americans have done no wrong like ever in history. The Americans only Fight good and just wars. Hypocrisy at its finest.

How many Muslims you American hypocrites have killed over the course of years? Any official count?

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Shall I also expand on French neo-colonism which continues to this day in Africa?

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All those who look for every excuse to speak bad about ISLAM and Muslims - you guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

@Surtur

You in particular.

Freedom of Expression my foot.

Am I allowed to deny Holocaust and praise Hitler? Am I allowed to paint all Jews and Christians with the same brush?

Why you cannot respect religious sensitivities of others? Why you expect others to make peace with your filthy bullshit?

Do I get to claim Freedom of Expression after teaching you a lesson in ethics for real?

Sooner of later, Muslims will band together and THROW YOUR FORCES out from the Middle East.

Blakemore
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
PEACE-LOVING superpower USA dethroned competent/popular Islamic leader(s) and brought corrupt stooges to power in their place from time-to-time, established regional proxies (Iran under Shah regime vs. Iraq ; GCC vs. Iran under Khomeini regime), invaded and/or bombed seemingly stable Islamic countries back to the stone age (Iraq in 2003 ; Libya in 2011), and helped establish powerful Salafi Jihadi organizations - all to counter USSR back in the days of the Cold War.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/20/64-years-later-cia-finally-releases-details-of-iranian-coup-iran-tehran-oil/

veMFCFyOwFI

5ICjDCVQueg

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/18/world/arming-afghan-guerrillas-a-huge-effort-led-by-us.html

GpfiggClx78

https://digitalcommons.buffalostate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1050&context=history_theses

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/03/18/profile-osama-bin-laden/

"The weapons were supplied by the Americans, the money by the Saudis." - Osama Bin Laden

Majority of those Salafi Jihadi groups regressed into Al-Qaeda Networks and when then one fine day 9/11 happened - an ugly incident which claimed the lives of thousands of innocents including about 500 Muslims in a span of minutes.

And now ISLAM is EVIL and to blame...

PEACE-LOVING superpower USA is the most God-fearing saintly nation on Earth and Americans have done no wrong like ever in history. The Americans only Fight good and just wars. Hypocrisy at its finest.

How many Muslims you American hypocrites have killed over the course of years? Any official count?

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Shall I also expand on French neo-colonism which continues to this day in Africa?

---

All those who look for every excuse to speak bad about ISLAM and Muslims - you guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

@Surtur

You in particular.

Freedom of Expression my foot.

Am I allowed to deny Holocaust and praise Hitler? Am I allowed to paint all Jews and Christians with the same brush?

Why you cannot respect religious sensitivities of others? Why you expect others to make peace with your filthy bullshit?

Do I get to claim Freedom of Expression after teaching you a lesson in ethics for real?

Sooner of later, Muslims will band together and THROW YOUR FORCES out from the Middle East. Apparently, we're not allowed to praise Hitler.

eThneoLgrRnae
Wow, looks like someone has their panties in a bunch over people rightly calling out what a shitty religion Islam is.

No one has ever said America has never done any wrong, ffs, and pretty sure no one is stupid enough to call America a "saintly nation " lol. On the contrary, we are the opposite of a saintly nation.


We kill more unborn babies than any other nation in the world if I'm not mistaken and we are easily the biggest manufacturer and seller of pornographic material. We are constantly glorifying violence and sex with our movies, songs,and other things. We are far from being a saintly nation. But we aren't all bad either. China and North Korea both have done much worse things and so have many of those muslim countries you are so stubbornly defending.

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Blakemore
Apparently, we're not allowed to praise Hitler.


We get it, ffs... you love Hitler. You don't need to keep reminding us.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Blakemore
Apparently, we're not allowed to praise Hitler.

Praise Hitler all you want. we already know how you feel about him.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Wow, looks like someone has their panties in a bunch over people rightly calling out what a shitty religion Islam is.

No one has ever said America has never done any wrong, ffs, and pretty sure no one is stupid enough to call America a "saintly nation " lol. On the contrary, we are the opposite of a saintly nation.


We kill more unborn babies than any other nation in the world if I'm not mistaken and we are easily the biggest manufacturer and seller of pornographic material. We are far from being a saintly nation. But we aren't all bad either. China and North Korea both have done much worse things and so have many of those muslim countries you are so stubbornly defending.
Islam is not shitty - people are. Hypocrites in particular.

The incident in question can be discussed with maturity but nope - some people find it fashionable to blame/disrespect Islam for every murder in which a Muslim is involved. These people dare to pretend to have a HIGH MORAL GROUND over Muslims while they belong to countries which have killed and corrupted on unprecedented scale.

I would say that the Cold War eroded much of the moral fabric of Muslims over the course of years - courtesy of unhelpful interventions from USSR and USA.

I do not blame Christianity for every murder in which a Christian is involved. In similar vein, I do not blame Judaism for every murder in which a jew is involved.

Every religion is different and sentiments vary accordingly.

A teacher should know better most of all.

Of-course, I see good in American. I have seen your posts as well - you give the vibe of being a good orthodox Christian. WE can be friends in real life if WE ever meet.

Chinese have killed more Chinese than any other (Mao for example).

North Korea? How many countries North Korea have invaded and bombed to stone age over the course of years? Come on now.

Compared to USA, North Korea is indeed a saint.

cdtm
Try living there.

Surtur
Originally posted by Blakemore
I love how "the right" are jumping on Adam and promoting anti-Obama rhetoric claiming "the left" are islamic terrorist sympathisers yet ignoring the point he made that Obama killed Bin Laden.

One act doesn't negate a pattern of behavior. Would you feel it is okay to say Trump is not racist because one time he pardoned a black woman?

Raptor22

Raptor22
Forgot to add link for quotes and couldn't edit it in.

https://deathpenalty.org/facts/5-myths-death-penalty/

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Surtur
One act doesn't negate a pattern of behavior. Would you feel it is okay to say Trump is not racist because one time he pardoned a black woman?
Depictions of Holy Prophet (PBUH) is a forbidden practice in Islam. What makes you think that Muslims will allow others to adopt this practice and get away with it?

Your bigotry against Muslims is apparent in your posting record. Your absolute lack of understanding of Islam is also glaringly apparent in your posting record.

You have no moral high ground or leg to stand upon for judging Muslims given the sheer amount of hypocrisy, blatant disregard of human lives, and interventionist Foreign Policy of USA which helped prepare extremist Salafi Jihadi forces which your country ended-up fighting eventually.

You are fishing for trouble with your lengthy history of hate speech directed towards Islam and Muslims. My advice is to keep your bigotry to yourself.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by cdtm
Try living there.
North Korea?

North Korea have an authoritative regime but it must have considerable domestic support base to stand upon. Would it?

North Korean defectors might be exaggerating - there is not a country in this world where TOTALITY of the population will be happy with internal developments.

In this very forum, you see Americans having political arguments and differences which in turn shape the outcome of American Presidential Elections (Democrats versus Republicans) from time-to-time.

People are not born with political preferences - they become accustomed to the political ideals of the state of which they are a part of.

You might find North Korea really bad but do you know much about it while not ever having the opportunity to experience its environment firsthand and having conversations with locals?

Americans continue to impose heavy sanctions on North Korea which in turn affect living standards of people there.

cdtm
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Depictions of Holy Prophet (PBUH) is a forbidden practice in Islam. What makes you think that Muslims will allow others to adopt this practice and get away with it?

Your bigotry against Muslims is apparent in your posting record. Your absolute lack of understanding of Islam is also glaringly apparent in your posting record.

You have no moral high ground or leg to stand upon for judging Muslims given the sheer amount of hypocrisy, blatant disregard of human lives, and interventionist Foreign Policy of USA which helped prepare extremist Salafi Jihadi forces which your country ended-up fighting eventually.

You are fishing for trouble with your lengthy history of hate speech directed towards Islam and Muslims. My advice is to keep your bigotry to yourself.


All kinds of lines are crossed in the education, entertainment, and political, and mass media spheres. "Sacred cows" are slaughtered every day.

It's simply accepted that being offended does not justify violence. Scathing words, yes. Lawsuits, perhaps. Physical attack, rarely (Of course there are cases of leniency, but those are rare and never for a death.)

It's telling that South Park was unable to offend Muslims, while being free to offend every other major religion, including Judaism.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by cdtm
All kinds of lines are crossed in the education, entertainment, and political, and mass media spheres. "Sacred cows" are slaughtered every day.
True, but unfortunate. There are certain lines which should not crossed for the sake of it particularly those which might cause communal tensions.

There is a reason why LAWS and/or RULES are created and enforced to help manage organizations and run entire countries by extension. People are expected to respect these LAWS and/or RULES or there will be limitless CHAOS.

Cow is an animal but a Muslim can avoid slaughtering it in front of Hindu neighbors (if any) or seek their permission beforehand. I can make do with consuming other livestock animals such as goats and sheep anyways.

Originally posted by cdtm
It's simply accepted that being offended does not justify violence. Scathing words, yes. Lawsuits, perhaps. Physical attack, rarely (Of course there are cases of leniency, but those are rare and never for a death.)
That is ideal expectation but people are emotional, and different people will react to a development which they find truly offensive in different ways. There are ample experiments demonstrating the obvious.

I do not condone and support resorting to violence for addressing a social problem in personal capacity but I firmly believe in self-defense and the least I expect from others is not to insult me and my religious convictions on a regular basis. I can forgive one-offs and would prefer to reason with somebody who does not understand Islam to make him/her feel better. However, my patience have limits which I am sure is true for anybody here.

Protests and Law-suits are better routes indeed.

Originally posted by cdtm
It's telling that South Park was unable to offend Muslims, while being free to offend every other major religion, including Judaism.
This is why I believe in respecting all religions in person.

I am strong advocate of inter-faith harmony.

ArtificialGlory
Once a sizable majority of Muslims can finally admit that Mohammed(pig-shit be upon him) was a vicious, evil man whose example should not be emulated and whose image should not be guarded with infantile zeal, then perhaps proper inter-faith dialogue can finally begin.

Surtur

jaden_2.0
Well he didn't kill anyone for the vast majority of his life and then killed someone so I guess that can be classified as mostly peaceful.

S_W_LeGenD
@ArtificialGlory

Disgusting people like you are the reason why incidents such as the one being highlighted in this thread are happening. Even good/peace-loving Muslims will not put up with this nonsense for indefinite period.

Surtur
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Well he didn't kill anyone for the vast majority of his life and then killed someone so I guess that can be classified as mostly peaceful.

*channeling CNN* Plus the teachers body was mostly intact. That has to count for something. What does a head weigh, like 8 lbs? Some people might be glad to drop 8 lbs in an instant.

Silent Master
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
@ArtificialGlory

Disgusting people like you are the reason why incidents such as the one being highlighted in this thread are happening. Even good/peace-loving Muslims will not put up with this nonsense for indefinite period.

So, you don't believe in free will?

Surtur
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
@ArtificialGlory

Disgusting people like you are the reason why incidents such as the one being highlighted in this thread are happening. Even good/peace-loving Muslims will not put up with this nonsense for indefinite period.

When I first read this post I thought you meant the peaceful muslims wouldn't put up with nonsense like killing people over cartoons.

Now I realize you were suggesting even "peaceful" muslims have a breaking point when it comes to how much shit you can talk about Muhammad. Which means they aren't peaceful or good actually and it is quite the chilling statement.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
@ArtificialGlory

Disgusting people like you are the reason why incidents such as the one being highlighted in this thread are happening. Even good Muslims will not put up with this nonsense for long.
I'm disgusting for pointing out historical facts? Disgusting for pointing out that the desert pirate that you call a prophet was a horrible man unworthy of any sort of veneration? So what are these "good Muslims" going to do, then? Go on a beheading rampage against anyone who dares exercise their freedom of speech?

Tell me, if you please, what happens when even the most liberal and tolerant of Westerners decide that enough is enough?

Surtur
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

How many times must one talk shit about Muhammad before a "good" muslim becomes not so good?

wxyz
If you can be turned into a Terrorist because someone criticizes your religion and/or Prophet, you were a horrible person to begin with.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I'm disgusting for pointing out historical facts? Disgusting for pointing out that the desert pirate that you call a prophet was a horrible man unworthy of any sort of veneration? So what are these "good Muslims" going to do, then? Go on a beheading rampage against anyone who dares exercise their freedom of speech?

Tell me, if you please, what happens when even the most liberal and tolerant of Westerners decide that enough is enough?
Tell me something - is a Prophet responsible for YOUR miseries and failures in life?

Horrible man? Take a good look at the leaders you guys have been producing over the course of years. Bunch of Hypocrites + Morally Bankrupt + Imperialists.

If I decide to make fun of Holocaust victims, how would they feel? It is important to distinguish Freedom of Expression from Hate Speech.

The fundamental premise of Freedom of Expression is to be in raise your voice against corruption and oppression - a challenge that credible journalists have had to struggle with for a long time, and still do in numerous countries.

People like you are being GROOMED for HATE SPEECH instead - this is not Freedom of Expression. Do not complain when blow-back comes for real.

"Any kind of communication in speech, writing or behaviour, that attacks or uses pejorative or discriminatory language with reference to a person or a group on the basis of who they are, in other words, based on their religion, ethnicity, nationality race, colour, descent, gender or other identity factor." - United Nations

https://theconversation.com/there-are-differences-between-free-speech-hate-speech-and-academic-freedom-and-they-matter-124764

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Surtur
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

How many times must one talk shit about Muhammad before a "good" muslim becomes not so good?
In your sheer hatred, ignorance, and hubris, you tend to forget that USA have to maintain bilateral relations with scores of Islamic countries whose support is essential for USA to retain its filthy foothold across Asia and also for your economy.

Your enemies are multiplying otherwise. Sooner or later this reality will dawn on you egotistical morally bankrupt morons.

And these new set of enemies are terrifying - absolutely capable of blowing American cities to smithereens from afar, mind you.

You people are taking Muslim generosity for granted. Please step out from your hubris for your own good.

Silent Master
IOW, your stance is. "That woman was wearing a short skirt. so she deserved to be raped".

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, your stance is. "That woman was wearing a short skirt. so she deserved to be raped".
Spare me this rubbish.

Do not try to conflate HATE SPEECH with Freedom of Expression.

Silent Master
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Spare me this rubbish.

Do not try to conflate HATE SPEECH with Freedom of Expression.

IOW, the skirt was indecently short. thus she was asking for it.

wxyz
Wait, is that what S_W_LeGenD believes?

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Tell me something - is a Prophet responsible for YOUR miseries and failures in life?

Horrible man? Take a good look at the leaders you guys have been producing over the course of years. Bunch of Hypocrites + Morally Bankrupt + Imperialists.

If I decide to make fun of Holocaust victims, how would they feel? It is important to distinguish Freedom of Expression from Hate Speech.

The fundamental premise of Freedom of Expression is to be in raise your voice against corruption and oppression - a challenge that credible journalists have had to struggle with for a long time, and still do in numerous countries.

People like you are being GROOMED for HATE SPEECH instead - this is not Freedom of Expression. Do not complain when blow-back comes for real.

"Any kind of communication in speech, writing or behaviour, that attacks or uses pejorative or discriminatory language with reference to a person or a group on the basis of who they are, in other words, based on their religion, ethnicity, nationality race, colour, descent, gender or other identity factor." - United Nations

https://theconversation.com/there-are-differences-between-free-speech-hate-speech-and-academic-freedom-and-they-matter-124764
Not in my life, personally, but Mohammad's legacy has sown plenty of misery across the world over the last 1000+ years.

Funny you should say that, considering that Mohammad was a morally bankrupt, hypocritical imperialist. While most Western leaders, on the other hand, did a great deal to combat imperialism and have made tremendous strides in de-colonization in the last 100 years. Hell, even the American support for the Taliban was largely to combat Soviet imperialism.

Saying hateful, offensive things is still freedom of expression; mocking religious figures is one of the main cornerstones of freedom of expression in the Western world, especially France. So yes, you should be allowed to mock the victims of the Holocaust. Remember, 'hate speech' is still freedom of speech.

Trocity
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You people are taking Muslim generosity for granted.

LOL.

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Surtur
*channeling CNN* Plus the teachers body was mostly intact. That has to count for something. What does a head weigh, like 8 lbs? Some people might be glad to drop 8 lbs in an instant.

Did they lose the weight of the head or the weight of the body though?...hmmm?...HHMMMMMM???

https://i.gifer.com/Mvt7.gif

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Trocity
LOL.
Yeah, I mean, what the f**k? What generosity? Only beheading people for mocking Mohammad some of the time?

Blakemore
Originally posted by Surtur
One act doesn't negate a pattern of behavior. Would you feel it is okay to say Trump is not racist because one time he pardoned a black woman? I never thought Trump was racist on a personal level. A more fitting description would be a giant douche so detached from the common man he either unwittingly, ignorantly, or just plain doesn't care, hurts people of colour economically whilst saying suggestive language that implies things like "Mexicans are rapists" which I've said, he didn't actually say that, but the average American was probably thinking that crap anyway.

Surtur
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
In your sheer hatred, ignorance, and hubris, you tend to forget that USA have to maintain bilateral relations with scores of Islamic countries whose support is essential for USA to retain its filthy foothold across Asia and also for your economy.

Your enemies are multiplying otherwise. Sooner or later this reality will dawn on you egotistical morally bankrupt morons.

And these new set of enemies are terrifying - absolutely capable of blowing American cities to smithereens from afar, mind you.

You people are taking Muslim generosity for granted. Please step out from your hubris for your own good.

Translation: stop attacking Muhammad or someone is gonna stab or decapitate you eventually.

The worrisome part is that a lot of "moderate" muslims probably feel like you do.

Surtur
Originally posted by Blakemore
I never thought Trump was racist on a personal level. A more fitting description would be a giant douche so detached from the common man he either unwittingly, ignorantly, or just plain doesn't care, hurts people of colour economically whilst saying suggestive language that implies things like "Mexicans are rapists" which I've said, he didn't actually say that, but the average American was probably thinking that crap anyway.

You actually described what I feel about him. I think he's an all around a-hole, I think if he thinks being sexist will offend someone he will be sexist. But I don't think it's his default mode.

I think he would judge people more by class than anything else. I doubt he gives more of a shit about a white guy in the ghetto than a black guy in the same place.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Not in my life, personally, but Mohammad's legacy has sown plenty of misery across the world over the last 1000+ years.
Holy Prophet (PBUH) brought an end to backward warring pagan tribes who were known to bury newborn daughters alive as well as practice racism, and reorganized them into a civilization in its own right.

So you are telling me that it is acceptable for Europeans to create civilizations but not for Asians? This is height of bigotry on your part.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Funny you should say that, considering that Mohammad was a morally bankrupt, hypocritical imperialist. While most Western leaders, on the other hand, did a great deal to combat imperialism and have made tremendous strides in de-colonization in the last 100 years. Hell, even the American support for the Taliban was largely to combat Soviet imperialism.
Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was/is much better than any leader your kind produced in modern times. He managed to reform backward warring pagans of his time and produced first Arab civilization with a charter of Women and Orphan rights and discouraged racism through notion of brotherhood.

American HISTORY is much DARKER, VIOLENT, and DISGUSTING in comparison.

https://www.history.com/news/native-americans-genocide-united-states

When Native Americans Were Slaughtered in the Name of ‘Civilization’

Their skin was dark. Their languages were foreign. And their world views and spiritual beliefs were beyond most white men’s comprehension.

https://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/american-civil-war-history

The Civil War in the United States began in 1861, after decades of simmering tensions between northern and southern states over slavery, states’ rights and westward expansion.

Most Western leaders combating imperialism? Who are these guys again?

https://www.vox.com/2014/6/24/5835320/map-in-the-whole-world-only-these-five-countries-escaped-european

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Americans (Foreign settlers in the lands of native Indians to be precise) fought the British Imperialists for independence - localized American agenda.

Many years later, it would be Adolph Hitler who would manage to break the back of European colonialism around the world.

Now check my first post in the following link: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=671894&pagenumber=3

- You will find ample examples of unproductive American interventions in Islamic countries which in turn helped fuel anti-American sentiments, extremism, and ruined the lives of millions of Muslims over the course of years.

USA is just as bad as those whom it derides in official capacity.

Sorry friend - no moral high ground for you.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Saying hateful, offensive things is still freedom of expression; mocking religious figures is one of the main cornerstones of freedom of expression in the Western world, especially France. So yes, you should be allowed to mock the victims of the Holocaust. Remember, 'hate speech' is still freedom of speech.
Thanks for letting me know.

Hate Speech is disturbing/problematic practice regardless:

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/ UN%20Strategy%20and%20Plan%20of%20Action%20on%20Ha
te%20Speech%2018%20June%20SYNOPSIS.pdf

https://www.coe.int/en/web/european-commission-against-racism-and-intolerance/hate-speech-and-violence

Backwardness of American conception of Freedom of Expression is apparent in the following link: http://www.ala.org/advocacy/intfreedom/hate

You need to do better than that TBH.

You and member Surtur continue to surprise me with your disgusting levels of bigotry.

Surtur
How of those pagan children did he molest?

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Surtur
How of those pagan children did he molest?
Who sold this nonsense to you?

How many girls you f**ked in your teen years outside marriage?

Silent Master
Would the "good man" Muhammad approve of those murdering in his name?

Surtur
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Who sold this nonsense to you?

How many girls you f**ked in your teen years outside marriage?

Why are you bringing up teenage sex I'm talking about his child bride.

eThneoLgrRnae
LMAO@ that dude defending that f***ing pedophile warmongering p-o-s.


FACT: There was absolutely nothing holy about Muhammed.

Surtur
Originally posted by Silent Master
Would the "good man" Muhammad approve of those murdering in his name?

Something tells me the answer is "yes".

https: //wikiislam.net/wiki/ %20List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhamm
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For some reason the link wasn't working when I posted it, so just use this link and remove the space after https:

Blakemore
Originally posted by Surtur
You actually described what I feel about him. I think he's an all around a-hole, I think if he thinks being sexist will offend someone he will be sexist. But I don't think it's his default mode.

I think he would judge people more by class than anything else. I doubt he gives more of a shit about a white guy in the ghetto than a black guy in the same place. See this is the thing. We actually agree most of the time, and I feel that way about DDM too, but just by looking at the 2nd debate it's clear that Biden doesn't have fcking alzheimers and Trump is a fraud. Anyway, I'm being off topic, so I won't carry on.

wxyz
Muhammad married a child when he was an adult.

He's a pedophile pure and simple.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
LMAO@ that dude defending that f***ing pedophile warmongering p-o-s.


FACT: There was absolutely nothing holy about Muhammed.

thumb up

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Surtur
Why are you bringing up teenage sex I'm talking about his child bride.
Why should I not question your morals when you try to question that of others?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
LMAO@ that dude defending that f***ing pedophile warmongering p-o-s.


FACT: There was absolutely nothing holy about Muhammed.
So only those Prophets are good which you believe in? Others are bad and deserve disrespect?

So much for inter-faith harmony...

Warmongering my foot. Arab pagans were trying to kill Holy Prophet (PBUH) and he chose to defend himself and rightfully so.

You guys have 2nd Amendment, right?

Silent Master
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Why should I not question your morals when you try to question that of others? Would the "good man" Muhammad approve of those murdering in his name?

Surtur
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Why should I not question your morals when you try to question that of others?


So only those Prophets are good which you believe in? Others are bad and deserve disrespect?

So much for inter-faith harmony...

Are you saying two teenagers having sex is like a man having a child bride?

Also I am not religious so why are you acting like I'd hold some belief that is anti sex outside of marriage?

Surtur
I think we can extrapolate about Muhammad and say someone who murders poets for saying bad things about them is pro murder.

"Abu 'Afak, February 624: Killed the Jewish poet Abu Afak for opposing Muhammad through poetry. Result: Abu Afak assassinated."

Yikes

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Spare me this rubbish.

Do not try to conflate HATE SPEECH with Freedom of Expression.


So far you're the only one I've seen talking rubbish in this thread. Free speech is not rubbish. It is a Constitutional right of every single American. What you call hate speech is protected by the first amendment. I hear atheists talk shit about Jesus (and He actually was Holy and still is, unlike Muhammed) all the time but I never threaten them or say they aren't allowed to do it.


If you think people being free to talk bad about anyone (including so-called "prophets"wink is rubbish then perhaps you should move to one of those muslim countries you admire so much.

Surtur
So jews have been getting a raw deal since pretty much forever.

https://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/kinana.htm

" Muhammad aggressively attacked several groups of people around him. One of these groups were the Jews of Khaibar. Muhammad believed God led him to attack Khaibar. After Khaibar was conquered, the Jews were either enslaved, executed, or allowed to live there provided they gave the Muslims one half of all they produced. One of Muhammad's most brutal acts involved a prisoner named Kinana. Kinana was one of the leaders of Khaibar. Muhammad wanted him to reveal where some buried treasure was hidden. Kinana refused. Muhammad had him tortured to the point of death, then had him beheaded.|

Damn. He's like a pedo mobster.

Old Man Whirly!
He's right to a point as far as medieval warlords went Mohammad was a very, very kind statesman. Equality and other people being allowed to pay tithes to worship their own religion within his communities was almost unheard of. Tbh, a lot of modern versions of Islam are more extreme than that Mohammad himself preached. As for child brides, they were going in US states until quite recently when did it stop being 11 in states. Ffs Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-year-old cousin not that long ago. The youngest queen consort in English history was Isabella of Valois, who married Richard II when she was 6 years, 358 days old in 1396. Richard was 29 at the time. This was 600+ years after Mohammad and a Christian monarch.

Surtur
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
He's right to a point as far as medieval warlords went Mohammad was a very, very kind statesman. Equality and other people being allowed to pay tithes to worship their own religion within his communities was almost unheard of. Tbh, a lot of modern versions of Islam are more extreme than that Mohammad himself preached. As for child brides, they were going in US states until quite recently when did it stop being 11 in states. Ffs Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-year-old cousin not that long ago. The youngest queen consort in English history was Isabella of Valois, who married Richard II when she was 6 years, 358 days old in 1396. Richard was 29 at the time. This was 600+ years after Mohammad and a Christian monarch.

Yeah he'd murder you for writing a bad poem about him, but if you gave him half your shit he would indeed not enslave or kill you.

Charming.

Surtur
Also it's disingenuous to bring up child brides in the US in the past since people here aren't worshiping someone who had one.

Shit we cancel people who owned slaves.

Lol. How did Big M feel about slavery?

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah he'd murder you for writing a bad poem about him, but if you gave him half your shit he would indeed not enslave or kill you.

Charming.



laughing laughing

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Silent Master
Would the "good man" Muhammad approve of those murdering in his name?
Holy Prophet (PBUH) have substantial HISTORY of forgiving some of the worst enemies of Islam including those who conspired to kill him.

FYI: https://www.al-islam.org/forgiveness-islam/some-examples-pardons-made-prophet-and-imams

Islam did not spread with magic - Holy Prophet (PBUH) set examples of kindness and tolerance in his teachings and had to endure lot of hardships in the process.

It is easy for morally bankrupt people to question his morals and struggles in this age - what kind of world WE live in.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Surtur
Also it's disingenuous to bring up child brides in the US in the past since people here aren't worshiping someone who had one.

Shit we cancel people who owned slaves.

Lol. How did Big M feel about slavery? Muhammad's approach to slavery as reformist rather than revolutionary. He did not set out to abolish slavery, but rather to improve the conditions of slaves by urging his followers to treat their slaves humanely and free them as a way of expiating one's sins. Which for Warlords at the time was better than most. Like I say for the time he was a reformer.

Surtur
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Holy Prophet (PBUH) have substantial HISTORY of forgiving some of the worst enemies of Islam including those who conspired to kill him.

FYI: https://www.al-islam.org/forgiveness-islam/some-examples-pardons-made-prophet-and-imams

Islam did not spread with magic - Holy Prophet (PBUH) set examples of kindness and tolerance in his teachings and had to endure lot of hardships in the process.

It is easy for morally bankrupt people to question his morals and struggles in this age - what kind of world WE live in.

At best you're proving Muhammad was bi-polar

eThneoLgrRnae
No matter how many times you can call a turd "Holy" it still won't actually make it so... just sayin'. wink

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Holy Prophet (PBUH) have substantial HISTORY of forgiving some of the worst enemies of Islam including those who conspired to kill him.

FYI: https://www.al-islam.org/forgiveness-islam/some-examples-pardons-made-prophet-and-imams

Islam did not spread with magic - Holy Prophet (PBUH) set examples of kindness and tolerance in his teachings and had to endure lot of hardships in the process.

It is easy for morally bankrupt people to question his morals and struggles in this age - what kind of world WE live in. Pretty much he was a product of the time, but he was far better than most others of that time. Traditional Islam does believe in mercy in a way European Christianity at the time did not.

Surtur
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Muhammad's approach to slavery as reformist rather than revolutionary. He did not set out to abolish slavery, but rather to improve the conditions of slaves by urging his followers to treat their slaves humanely and free them as a way of expiating one's sins. Which for Warlords at the time was better than most. Like I say for the time he was a reformer.

Lol. Just listen to yourself.

Why does Muhammad get a pass on slavery but not others? George Washington didn't treat his slaves bad either. He also didn't murder people who wrote bad things about him.

This bi polar serial killer you're choosing to defend is not worth it.

cdtm
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
He's right to a point as far as medieval warlords went Mohammad was a very, very kind statesman. Equality and other people being allowed to pay tithes to worship their own religion within his communities was almost unheard of. Tbh, a lot of modern versions of Islam are more extreme than that Mohammad himself preached. As for child brides, they were going in US states until quite recently when did it stop being 11 in states. Ffs Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-year-old cousin not that long ago. The youngest queen consort in English history was Isabella of Valois, who married Richard II when she was 6 years, 358 days old in 1396. Richard was 29 at the time. This was 600+ years after Mohammad and a Christian monarch.


I believe some states still allow as young as 15.

This leads to bizarre circumstances where a legally married couple could end up on the sex offender registry for recordings or pictures taken on their honeymoon.

Surtur
Even 15 is not 9

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Surtur
Even 15 is not 9 Yeah, it's not 6 either. The Medieval world is not now. The US now, is not Africa now.

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Surtur
Even 15 is not 9


Yeah, I wanna see some actual proof that our founders married and had sex with girls under ten years old as the pedo apologist is claiming.

Silent Master
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Holy Prophet (PBUH) have substantial HISTORY of forgiving some of the worst enemies of Islam including those who conspired to kill him.

FYI: https://www.al-islam.org/forgiveness-islam/some-examples-pardons-made-prophet-and-imams

Islam did not spread with magic - Holy Prophet (PBUH) set examples of kindness and tolerance in his teachings and had to endure lot of hardships in the process.

It is easy for morally bankrupt people to question his morals and struggles in this age - what kind of world WE live in.

Is that a yes or a no to him approving of murdering in his name?

Surtur
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Yeah, it's not 6 either. The Medieval world is not now. The US now, is not Africa now.

Take a step back and realize that you're essentially saying "so what everybody was f*cking 9 yr. olds".

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
So far you're the only one I've seen talking rubbish in this thread. Free speech is not rubbish. It is a Constitutional right of every single American. What you call hate speech is protected by the first amendment. I hear atheists talk shit about Jesus (and He actually was Holy and still is, unlike Muhammed) all the time but I never threaten them or say they aren't allowed to do it.


If you think people being free to talk bad about anyone (including so-called "prophets"wink is rubbish then perhaps you should move to one of those muslim countries you admire so much.
I am trying to show your Americans the MIRROR and attempting to explain pitfalls of HATE SPEECH in this thread - and you say that I am talking rubbish here. I took you for being among the wiser members of the forum - guess I was wrong.

What kind of Moral High Ground you Americans have that Muslims around the world should draw lessons from?

I can expect to learn from an individual who have better morals than mine but not from bigots and hypocrites of the highest order.

American notion of Freedom of Expression is backwards and should be revisited.

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/ UN%20Strategy%20and%20Plan%20of%20Action%20on%20Ha
te%20Speech%2018%20June%20SYNOPSIS.pdf

First Amendment is not an excuse.

Originally posted by Surtur
This bi polar serial killer you're choosing to defend is not worth it.
More lies and nonsense from you - not surprised.

Surtur
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, I wanna see some actual proof that our founders married and had sex with girls under ten years old as the pedo apologist is claiming.

9 seems too young. I could seem them not minding a dude marrying like a 13 yr. old. Which is creepy but still lightyears away from a 9 yr. old

Old Man Whirly!
Even the time of the founding of the US is long ago in the West. I'm a Godless infidel from the least religious nation on Earth, our king left the Catholic church so he could divorce. But, I believe in tolerance, I've never felt safer in my life than living in KSA. Except when Yemeni (Iranian supplied) scuds from the ludicrous "war" (butchering poor shia) were coming in.

Surtur
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Even the time of the founding of the US is long ago in the West. I'm a Godless infidel from the least religious nation on Earth, our king left the Catholic church so he could divorce. But, I believe in tolerance, I've never felt safer in my life than living in KSA. Except when Yemeni (Iranian supplied) scuds from the ludicrous "war" (butchering poor shia) were coming in.

This is gibberish.

Silent Master
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I am trying to show your Americans the MIRROR and attempting to explain pitfalls of HATE SPEECH in this thread - and you say that I am talking rubbish here. I took you for being among the wiser members of the forum - guess I was wrong.

What kind of Moral High Ground you Americans have that Muslims around the world should draw lessons from?

I can expect to learn from an individual who have better morals than mine but not from bigots and hypocrites of the highest order.

American notion of Freedom of Expression is backwards and should be revisited.

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/ UN%20Strategy%20and%20Plan%20of%20Action%20on%20Ha
te%20Speech%2018%20June%20SYNOPSIS.pdf

First Amendment is not an excuse.

Well. we don't approve of murdering people. Would Muhammad?

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Surtur
9 seems too young. I could seem them not minding a dude marrying like a 13 yr. old. Which is creepy but still lightyears away from a 9 yr. old


thumb up

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Surtur
Take a step back and realize that you're essentially saying "so what everybody was f*cking 9 yr. olds".


LMAO! laughing rolling on floor laughing laughing

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
He's right to a point as far as medieval warlords went Mohammad was a very, very kind statesman. Equality and other people being allowed to pay tithes to worship their own religion within his communities was almost unheard of. Tbh, a lot of modern versions of Islam are more extreme than that Mohammad himself preached. As for child brides, they were going in US states until quite recently when did it stop being 11 in states. Ffs Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-year-old cousin not that long ago. The youngest queen consort in English history was Isabella of Valois, who married Richard II when she was 6 years, 358 days old in 1396. Richard was 29 at the time. This was 600+ years after Mohammad and a Christian monarch.

Surtur
Whirly would you trust Muhammad to babysit your kids?

2nd scenario: your kids are jews and he knows it

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Even the time of the founding of the US is long ago in the West. I'm a Godless infidel from the least religious nation on Earth, our king left the Catholic church so he could divorce. But, I believe in tolerance, I've never felt safer in my life than living in KSA. Except when Yemeni (Iranian supplied) scuds from the ludicrous "war" (butchering poor shia) were coming in. Whilst of course the Yemeni scuds were coming from Iranian supplies, the KSA military were using, US and UK weapons.

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Surtur
Whirly would you trust Muhammad to babysit your kids?

2nd scenario: your kids are jews and he knows it


lol you are just full of zingers today aren't you? laughing out loud

Old Man Whirly!

cdtm
Originally posted by Blakemore
I never thought Trump was racist on a personal level. A more fitting description would be a giant douche so detached from the common man he either unwittingly, ignorantly, or just plain doesn't care, hurts people of colour economically whilst saying suggestive language that implies things like "Mexicans are rapists" which I've said, he didn't actually say that, but the average American was probably thinking that crap anyway.

You may be surprised at what the average American thinks.




Personally, I feel the main difference between Trump and a lot of leaders in both parties, is he's clueless enough to say whats really on his mind.

Surtur

Surtur
Originally posted by cdtm
You may be surprised at what the average American thinks.




Personally, I feel the main difference between Trump and a lot of leaders in both parties, is he's clueless enough to say whats really on his mind.

This is why Trump is so weird. He lies, but in some ways he is the most honest politician ever. In that sometimes he just admits he is gaming the system.

He says out loud what they will only dare say in private

eThneoLgrRnae
No, he's not clueless. He just has balls and so makes an effort to NOT be politically correct and gives the middle finger to the establishment. One reason we like him so much.

eThneoLgrRnae
How in the hell does a thread about a muslim murdering someone turn into yet another anti-Trump thread?


Oh, that's right... because TDS infected folk can't help but make everything about "orange man baaaaad!".

Surtur
Good point, onto the topic:

French Authorities Arrest 11 After History Teacher Beheading

S_W_LeGenD

Surtur
SW_Legend how about you meet me halfway and acknowledge it is not conservatives pushing pedo acceptance here but the left?

Cuz I do agree. Certain folk here do wanna push that agenda. But the NYT doesn't lean right. And I hate those pieces of shit pushing pedo acceptance.

But I acknowledge if certain folk gain power here we could see some sick pedo acceptance go mainstream.

Silent Master
So Muhammad being a pedo is a good thing?

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Silent Master
So Muhammad being a pedo is a good thing?


Apparently so lol.

Surtur
I guess the argument is everybody was a pedo back then and the left is now pushing pedo acceptance in the modern day.

Which...I mean, that's technically correct but not a valid excuse.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Silent Master
So Muhammad being a pedo is a good thing?
See my post above instead of continuing to TROLL.

There is no proof of this nonsense.

wxyz
Pedophilia is a sexual orientation.

Silent Master
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
See my post above instead of continuing to TROLL.

There is no proof of this nonsense.

So, since you say that Muhammad isn't a pedo. you would have no problems saying that being a pedo is wrong and should be condemned.


So, is it wrong to be a pedo?

Surtur
9 yr. old girl: please stop

Muhammad: Everybody's doing it

eThneoLgrRnae
"There is no proof that the sky is blue, that the earth is round , or that 2+2=4! That is all totally nonsense!" laughing out loud

Blakemore
Originally posted by cdtm
You may be surprised at what the average American thinks.




Personally, I feel the main difference between Trump and a lot of leaders in both parties, is he's clueless enough to say whats really on his mind. That's part of why I liked him. The greatest thing he's done is expose America for what it really is. A big fat moron doing what he's told while others make lots of money.

Also, Whirly is right about how different religious practices are tolerated in Islam. That's why there are so many different versions of Islam and Islam is peace.

The only problem is psychologically, it physically impairs people, especially women, but also the men, so dumb radicalised ****wits can exploit these peaceful nomads.

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Surtur
9 yr. old girl: please stop

Muhammad: Everybody's doing it

LOL! Please stop, Surtur, or else you're gonna make by sides burst from laughing so hard lol.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Surtur
Lol you're like a battered gf saying "he does it cuz he loves me". Not at all, I have no religion. What I am aware of is, that trying to state Islam has more blood on its hands even in the modern world than the Western Military-Industrial complex is extremely silly.
Yes, it is as it practiced in some countries far less tolerant than the UK on many issues. However, we've already seen on things like Abortion it has far more in common with many US red states than the UK have with those same red states. I try not to judge cultures like your religious states as primitive in the same way I don't judge Islam in that way. galan_jesus

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Blakemore
That's part of why I liked him. The greatest thing he's done is expose America for what it really is. A big fat moron doing what he's told while others make lots of money.

Also, Whirly is right about how different religious practices are tolerated in Islam. That's why there are so many different versions of Islam and Islam is peace.

The only problem is psychologically, it physically impairs people, especially women, but also the men, so dumb radicalised ****wits can exploit these peaceful nomads.


Maybe you didn't get the memo, Hitler-lover: this thread is not about Trump.

Save your TDS for the proper thread please.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
"There is no proof that the sky is blue, that the earth is round , or that 2+2=4!"
FLAWED examples.

A large number of historical records are being scrutinized and revisited around the world by historians to distinguish fabrications from truthfulness and more.

Nobody had a camera back in the days of Holy Prophet (PBUH) to ascertain how old was his wife Ayesha at the time of marriage to him.

The first hadith was written many years after death of Holy Prophet (PBUH). The only records documented by him in his lifetime is the Holy Quran. Nothing else.

Get your facts straight instead.

Silent Master
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
FLAWED examples.

A large number of historical records are being scrutinized and revisited around the world by historians to distinguish fabrications from truthfulness and more.

Nobody had a camera back in the days of Holy Prophet (PBUH) to ascertain how old was his wide Ayesha at the time of marriage to him.

The first hadith was written many years after death of Holy Prophet (PBUH). The only records documented by him in his lifetime is the Holy Quran. Nothing else.

Get your facts straight instead.

Since you say Muhammad wasn't a pedo.

Will you say that being a pedo is a bad thing?

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