Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.

Seated on a gold chair in his residence, the documentary showed Francis saying gay people were "children of God." "You can't kick someone out of a family, nor make their life miserable for this," he said. "What we have to have is a civil union law; that way they are legally covered."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-francis-same-sex-civil-unions-interview/

Thoughts?

Originally posted by wxyz
Seated on a gold chair in his residence, the documentary showed Francis saying gay people were "children of God." "You can't kick someone out of a family, nor make their life miserable for this," he said. "What we have to have is a civil union law; that way they are legally covered."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-francis-same-sex-civil-unions-interview/

Thoughts? Good! The Catholic Church in Europe and the US is reforming. In Africa and Asia, not so much.

Why the hell does he have a chair made of gold?

Originally posted by Surtur
Why the hell does he have a chair made of gold? Because it's historical, from a time when everyone had chairs of gold... Why does Donnie have a Golden toilet?

Originally posted by Surtur
Why the hell does he have a chair made of gold?

Specifically, made from the golden teeth of nazi death camp victims.

Allegedly.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Specifically, made from the golden teeth of nazi death camp victims.

Allegedly. He has one of those too?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Because it's historical, from a time when everyone had chairs of gold... Why does Donnie have a Golden toilet?

They should melt the chair down and sell it and then give the money to charity.

Originally posted by wxyz
Seated on a gold chair in his residence, the documentary showed Francis saying gay people were "children of God." "You can't kick someone out of a family, nor make their life miserable for this," he said. "What we have to have is a civil union law; that way they are legally covered."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-francis-same-sex-civil-unions-interview/

Thoughts?

Yeah, I have some thoughts. They are pretty much the same thoughts I've posted in the religion forum on Francis.


He is no man of God. Not only is he the head of the Roman Catholic Church (which is not and never was truly Christian) but he is a Jesuit. If anyone doesn't know what that is or the history behind them I suggest you look into it. They are responsible for doing some really bad shit throughout history (not least of which was overseeing the Inquisitions).

Francis has made it clear since he has first been crowned pope that he is completely opposed to what the Word of God actually says. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing and I'm like over 80% sure that he is THE false prophet spoken of in the book of Revelation.


He is a globalist who has called for a New World Order/globalist government on many occasions. Anyone who has even the slightest knowledge of biblical prophecy knows what that means.


He has said unbelievers can make it into Heaven if they are just "good people" or "live according to what they think is right". He has said the Creation account described in the book of Genesis is "not true". Yes, he believes in the big bang nonsense and Darwinist evolutionism crap even though they are both in direct contradiction to what scripture says.

Now he says that gay couples can be married lol. But naaaw, that isn't in contradiction to anything scripture says, nah, not at all. *rolls eyes*

He talks shit about Trump wanting to build a wall while he hypocritically hides behind d a huge wall in the Vatican.

I don't trust Francis anymore than I trust Satan, himself.

"reeeeeeeeee"

Originally posted by Surtur
Why the hell does he have a chair made of gold?

It's just more proof that the RCC is in no way Christian. Jesus would never condone that.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
"reeeeeeeeee"

Christians, Catholics, Protestants... Anyone thinking they can speak on behalf of God or a guy that's been dead for two millennia is a bit weird, imo.

He is not dead lol. He is very much alive. And yes, people who actually read the written infallible Word of God contained within the pages of the Holy Bible can speak on behalf of Him.


Those are His Words written down by men who were directly inspired by Him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Christians, Catholics, Protestants... Anyone thinking they can speak on behalf of God or a guy that's been dead for two millennia is a bit weird, imo.

@eThneoLgrRnae

Do you think God will punish Pope Francis for this?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
He is not dead lol. He is very much alive. And yes, people who actually read the written infallible Word of God contained within the pages of the Holy Bible can speak on behalf of Him.


Those are His Words written down by men who were directly inspired by Him.

That doesn't help you sound any more credible.

I mean, it's fine to have an opinion, but still.

Originally posted by wxyz
Seated on a gold chair in his residence, the documentary showed Francis saying gay people were "children of God." "You can't kick someone out of a family, nor make their life miserable for this," he said. "What we have to have is a civil union law; that way they are legally covered."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-francis-same-sex-civil-unions-interview/

Thoughts?

I am glad he is speaking out in favor of it, it's not particular progressive in a Western European context, however it shows some movement in the church, which still has immense influence around the world. I think he is right, and I think most Christians of all denominations (leaving aside that eThneoLgrRnae considers catholicism a satanic cult) do mostly agree that you should be compassionate to people, especially people in your family, even if they fail to act that way often.

On the whole I've been happy with this pope, I guess, in the grand scheme of things.

I remember the yuge day in history when the pope announced all the babies that had never been babtized could leave purgatory and ascend to heaven, it really took a weight off my shoulders that day.

Then I cried for not being a baby and going straight to heaven

Originally posted by wxyz
@eThneoLgrRnae

Do you think God will punish Pope Francis for this?


Like I said, I'm fairly certain that he is the false prophet described in the book of Revelation. If you were to read it then ,yes, you will see that he will be punished severely for all the people he has led away from the true Christ with his lies and antibiblical doctrines.


Oh, and you can just call me Lone Ranger or LR for short, if you prefer... or even just "ethneo" as some do.

God didn't create them that way no matter what you've been led to believe. Being attracted to people of the same sex is not natural.

Funny how homosexuality among animals is almost nonexistant, isn't it?

And have you ever seen animals engaging in anal sex?

Strawman argument. I have admitted no such thing, squall. God is perfect. Man is far from it though.


That's why I said ALMOST nonexistant. I figured there may've been some examples that I wasn't aware of.

So why does homosexuality exist then?

Originally posted by wxyz
So why does homosexuality exist then?


Because people have rejected God too much. Eventually it can lead to that type of behavior among other things. Some turn to homosexuality others turn to other sinful ways.

The man or woman who cheats on his or her spouse is another example. I suppose pre-marital sex would be another but that is very hard for many of us to overcome... same thing goes for looking at pornography, etc, etc, etc...

I don't believe those other sins mentioned are called abominations though. God specifically refers to a man lying with another man as being an abomination. He calls people who engage in that type of behavior "reprobates".


And before some snowflake gets triggered over me saying those things, I want to point out that it's not me saying them, it's God. You don't believe me then perhaps you need to read your Bible. That is, a REAL BIBLE. IOW: A King James Authorized Version, not one of the modern day perversions that have been watered-down and corrupted.

But couldn't God snap its fingers and make all people on earth straight?

Also don't some animals practice homosexuality? Imagine how awkward it would be if one of the two animals from a species Noah grabbed was gay?

LOL. I always enjoy reading your hypotheticals about God because I know you're trying to get me in a gotcha question. I admire your tenacity, Surt.


Yes, of course He COULD, but He doesn't do things like that because he wants people to have free will.

I assumed that there might've been some animals who practiced homosexuality but didn't know for sure. Which animals have done that?

Seriously doubt any of the animals that came to Noah were homosexuals. God would've known beforehand that they were.

Noah: Okay male sheep, you're all set to procreate and continue your species with the female sheep I brought

Male sheep: Err, so maybe before the flood hits if you happen to see another male sheep out there...

Noah: Wait, what are you asking me?

Male sheep: Nevermind

List of animals displaying homosexual behavior

https://i.imgur.com/raZlorc.jpg

WWaLxFIVX1s

'Bout frickin time.

Originally posted by Mindship
'Bout frickin time.

Originally posted by Surtur
List of animals displaying homosexual behavior

https://i.imgur.com/raZlorc.jpg

WWaLxFIVX1s

I clicked on it. I read that homosexual behavior has been observed but yet I didn't actually see any examples of male animals sticking their wee wees in other male animals' anuses.


Do you have any footage or videos of that happening so I can witness it with my own eyes? Otherwise, I'm skeptical that it actually happened. I feel like the people who're saying it happened are maybe interpreting stuff like male bonding between animals as "homosexual" and I don't interpret it the same way.

Did you just ask people on KMC to send you gay animal porn videos?

No, troll. I asked for proof that some animals have engaged in anal sex.

Someone saying "we have observed homosexuality in certain animals" is not actual proof.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
No, troll. I asked for proof that some animals have engaged in anal sex.

Someone saying "we have observed homosexuality in certain animals" is not actual proof.

Well female Bonobo's are known to have face to face mounting of each other and get the ole scissor effect between the two of them frequently with their clits.

Ok, maybe I should've been a little more specific. I think I've seen certain animals (like bats, iirc) in documentaries engaging in some kind of oral sex. Not sure if it was male on male though.

It is mainly anal sex specifically, not other kinds of acts that could be construed by some as being homosexual, that I was referring to as being unnatural.


I know Alex Jones has reposted some articles about frogs being turned gay because of atrozine but that kind of homosexuality was brought about through man-made means.

I'm looking for proof of natural desire for sodomy in animals.

What's your opinion of heterosexual couples who engage in sodomy?

Originally posted by wxyz
What's your opinion of heterosexual couples who engage in sodomy?

I think anal sex is unnatural (and kinda gross, tbh, but if a fine enough chick wanted me to do that to her I probably wouldn't be able to refuse; she'd have to be really, really hot though lol; or, if she wasn't all that hot I'd have to be extremely desperate which I rarely am).

God didn't design a penis to be inserted into an anus. The Bible condemns sodomy... even if it's between a man and woman it's still sodomy.


Personally, if a couple wants to engage in anal sex that's their business and I'm fine with it but God would probably be another matter entirely.

Well, it's not really up to me is it, squall? That's God's call, not mine. I'm merely pointing out what the Bible says. If you choose not to believe in it then that's your right.


The Bible also says that anyone who calls upon the name of the Lord and believes the Gospel will be saved so as long as they are sincere about it then they should be saved regardless I would think.

The problem is that people who engage in behavior like that have probably already fallen a great deal away from God so it would be harder for them, imo, to be able to do that and be sincere about it. The more they engage in it the harder it will be for them to come back to the Lord.

That's my humble opinion on the matter.

Agreed.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae

Funny how homosexuality among animals is almost nonexistant, isn't it? It's not, you're just an ignorant retard.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It's not, you're just an ignorant retard. Nah, he's trolling the board Neme, it's a persona and his efriends here are well aware of that.

Originally posted by Artol
As far as I understand it a lot of it has to do with being marginalized and ostracized in their local communities. Especially in the past gay people were very much looked down upon and often even legally persecuted, and so to cling your identity, and find strength and community through it is a pretty natural thing.

Straight people of course don't have the same situation, yet you can certainly find, particularly men, who very much define themselves through their heterosexuality and their prowess in romantic and sexual endeavors with the people they are attracted too.

I guess generally people just treasure the things they identify with, and that is often made stronger by facing threats, whether they are real or perceived, from outside forces. You can, for example, see that in gamers, who feel they are under attack from feminists or "SJW" and lash out at this perceived threat. Straight people do take "pride" in their sexuality, it's just so ubiqituious that it's invisible. You take it for granted.

Let's look at sex for example. Sex between a man and woman is something that in most societies is celebrated in both religious and secular contexts. For young people it's a rite of passage and a badge of honor, for adults it's the sancitified as at the core of a stable marriage, in art and music it's flaunted and glorified. And of course, capitalism has co-opted sex to sell you everything from clothes to cologne.

Sex between two men though? In the wrong circles you'd be accused of "sodomy", described as "disgusting" "unnatural" and generally viliified as a sinful little creature (I'm talking about these circles of course.) At best if you talk about having sex with a man around a group of typical straights you'd get some uncomfortable looks. And when gay people do flaunt their sexuality in the same way straight people do, we are told to "think of the children" and "keep it to the bedroom."

"Pride" in that context is therefore adopting the same kind of sex positivity that straight people enjoy as the norm, but gays are routinely denied. It's not about "clinging" to our identities, it's about feeling comfortable and happy in your own skin.

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
Straight people do take "pride" in their sexuality, it's just so ubiqituious that it's invisible. You take it for granted.

Let's look at sex for example. Sex between a man and woman is something that in most societies is celebrated in both religious and secular contexts. For young people it's a rite of passage and a badge of honor, for adults it's the sancitified as at the core of a stable marriage, in art and music it's flaunted and glorified. And of course, capitalism has co-opted sex to sell you everything from clothes to cologne.

Sex between two men though? In the wrong circles you'd be accused of "sodomy", described as "disgusting" "unnatural" and generally viliified as a sinful little creature (I'm talking about these circles of course.) At best if you talk about having sex with a man around a group of typical straights you'd get some uncomfortable looks. And when gay people do flaunt their sexuality in the same way straight people do, we are told to "think of the children" and "keep it to the bedroom."

"Pride" in that context is therefore adopting the same kind of sex positivity that straight people enjoy as the norm, but gays are routinely denied. It's not about "clinging" to our identities, it's about feeling comfortable and happy in your own skin.

Yeah, that is true, it's sort of what I was trying to get at on a personal level with people taking "pride" in their sexuality, but you are of course right that on a societal level heterosexuality is celebrated, one way we can see it is the shoehorning in of heterosexual relationships in so many of movies and TV shows even if it is unnecessary or even counter to the narrative.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Nah, he's trolling the board Neme, it's a persona and his efriends here are well aware of that.



Nope, what I said was the truth. Homosexual activity among animals is extremely rare if it exists at all and I mainly meant specifically anal sex among animals. Show me proof of animals engaging in that. Put up or shut up, pooty..


And I don't respond to nemebro's trolling nonsense anymore. I rarely bother to even read his/her posts.


He/she is an even bigger troll than you are. At least you don't go around telling people to go kill themselves as nemebro has done in multiple occasions. He/she is a despicable human being.

That's true.

Gay people really like to shove their gayness down societies throat.

And then they whine about bigotry.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
"reeeeeeeeee"

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
He/she is an even bigger troll than you are. At least you don't go around telling people to go kill themselves as nemebro has done in multiple occasions. He/she is a despicable human being.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Hey, loser.... f*** off. You're a nobody who isn't worth my time, pussy. Do humanity a favor and go kill yourself.

mmm

@ethneo

Do you think the Government should get out of the marriage business altogether?

Originally posted by wxyz
@ethneo

Do you think the Government should get out of the marriage business altogether?

I do.

Move it all to civil unions (which opens up the doors for far broader social contracts than just marriage). Let "marriage" be a purely private endeavor but call it all 'civil unions' or 'social contracts.'

For the most part I agree with ddm on that.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do.

Move it all to civil unions (which opens up the doors for far broader social contracts than just marriage). Let "marriage" be a purely private endeavor but call it all 'civil unions' or 'social contracts.'

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
He is not dead lol. He is very much alive. And yes, people who actually read the written infallible Word of God contained within the pages of the Holy Bible can speak on behalf of Him.


Those are His Words written down by men who were directly inspired by Him.

That or crazy people who heard voices.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do.

Move it all to civil unions (which opens up the doors for far broader social contracts than just marriage). Let "marriage" be a purely private endeavor but call it all 'civil unions' or 'social contracts.'

Tbh, the government should not be encouraging people to get married in the first place.

Tax incentives for married couples is wrong and should be abolished.

And I do agree that the Government should move to civil unions for all and leave marriage to private institutions.

Marriage should be treated like a drivers license. Every few years you need to get it renewed.

Marriage has largely become a joke anyways.

Originally posted by wxyz
Marriage has largely become a joke anyways. I take all three of mine very seriously.

Originally posted by BackFire
That or crazy people who heard voices. Missed that! Genius!

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I take all three of mine very seriously.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Missed that! Genius!


And there's ol' pooty gangin'-up again... smh


I expect you not to whine the next time people "gang up" on your wittle pal, Bashy.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
And there's ol' pooty gangin'-up again... smh


I expect you not to whine the next time people "gang up" on your wittle pal, Bashy. I hardly think laughing at Backfires joke and showing appreciation of his wit is "ganging up". It is in no way a personal attack on anyone from Backfire.

This move by the Pope probably just the doubled the remaining life span of the Catholic Church. It's not the first time that the Church has changed some of its doctrine to make their religion more digestible to the masses.

Originally posted by Newjak
This move by the Pope probably just the doubled the remaining life span of the Catholic Church. It's not the first time that the Church has changed some of its doctrine to make their religion more digestible to the masses. It also won't be the last. Catholicism is waning in Europe. but thriving in Africa for now.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It's not, you're just an ignorant retard.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
For the most part I agree with ddm on that.

Originally posted by BackFire
That or crazy people who heard voices. You're thinking of Joseph Smith.

The Bible was a rewrite of the ancient Egyptian and Jewish religions making the Jews to look bad (Old testament) and the Europeans to look good (New Testament) except the stories they made were so ridiculous it's comical.

Originally posted by Mindship
'Bout frickin time.

Too little, too late. One of the leading reasons people cite for leaving the church is its attitude toward LGBTQ people. This is just an attempt to stop the bleeding.

I have to wonder how future Popes will handle this?

Context.

There is nothing controversial or offensive about what the Pope said to anyone with a functional brain and decent morals.

pope francis is dope af

Originally posted by BackFire
There is nothing controversial or offensive about what the Pope said to anyone with a functional brain and decent morals.

His lack of being offensive offends me greatly

Originally posted by BackFire
There is nothing controversial or offensive about what the Pope said to anyone with a functional brain and decent morals.

Agreed, but he's not a private citizen, he has a very specific role.

And I feel like in that context, he's wrong.

Originally posted by wxyz
Agreed, but he's not a private citizen, he has a very specific role.

And I feel like in that context, he's wrong.

How do?

Because from my understanding, same sex relationships are condemned in Christianity.

So the Pope saying same sex civil unions are okay, flies in the face of that.

Their religion is based off the Bible and if you believe Christians, Gods' word is infallible.

A change of this magnitude before though?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
pope francis is dope af Well, I think Benedict lowered the bar.

Why?

Just have some new guy say god told him he changed his mind and gays are cool now. Logically the statement will have as much validity as the original.

I don't think that's how it works.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Well, I think Benedict lowered the bar.

*pope palpatine

Originally posted by wxyz
I don't think that's how it works.

Their hypocrisy is not my problem.

Originally posted by wxyz
Why? I think he was the one where all the pedophilia was confirmed and some shady money stuff behind the scenes and he was one of few popes to retire (his reason was, "I'm old)."

Also, I think he, bishops and priests under his tenure said dumb stuff like homosexuality causes floods and droughts cos god gets angry.

Don't Bishops and Priests say stupid stuff like that all the time though?

Originally posted by BackFire
There is nothing controversial or offensive about what the Pope said to anyone with a functional brain and decent morals.


Wrong... and no, Francis is not a decent human being lol. He is a lying p-o-s. Even if you don't believe he is the false prophet who is leading millions to Hell with his anti-biblical doctrines and lies he is is still a massive hypocrite for hiding behind the walls of the Vatican while criticizing Trump for building a wall along the southern border.

As for what he said as being controversial or not, sure, if you are no real Christian I suppose that wouldn't be seen as controversial but anyone who has Bible knowledge on what it says about homosexuality it is very controversial. It just proves that the pope is no real Christian.


Since you just trolled Christians by sayin they have no brain I will now troll you and all God-haters like you and I don't really give a shit if it offends you and others:


Anyone who believe that an explosion of absolutely nothing created everything, or that life somehow naturally began from non-living material , or that a protozoa could eventually become a human thru mutations and vast stretches of time is not very bright, to say the least. People who also call all of that "science" are blatantly ignorant of actual scientific laws.


Also, people who support killing defenseless unborn children and call it "reproductive rights" or a "woman's right" are truly despicable human beings.

And people who don't think an unborn child is a human being don't have functioning brains in their f***ing heads.

Backfire's fault. He said "with a functioning brain," not "isn't an arrogant deluded moron whom is a sore loser."

Originally posted by wxyz
Their religion is based off the Bible and if you believe Christians, Gods' word is infallible.


Amen. But BF has already stated many times before that he thinks Christians are dumb. So of course he doesn't care what the Bible says.

It's just another book to him and anyone who thinks otherwise is mentally ill in his mind.

Bible also says that marriage is between a man and a woman. Period.

God's Words are not going to be ignored because they hurt certain snowflakes' fee fees.


Sorry, but it doesn't work like that. God is immutable. He doesn't "change with the times" to pander to certain people or groups.


FFS, he wiped the twin cities of Sodom and Gomorrah off the map and depraved sexual practices like sodomy were the primary reason He did.

Does this god speak to you at night?

I will not relent on being strongly opposed to same sex marriage and abortion no matter how much heathens try to shame me for it by saying thing like "hey, ya gotta change with da times, bro!".

Sorry, not gonna happen... ever.

Why can't you let people love each other? Hmm?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I will not relent on being strongly opposed to same sex marriage and abortion no matter how much heathens try to shame me for it by saying thing like "hey, ya gotta change with da times, bro!".

Sorry, not gonna happen... ever. Yeah, but when you pray to your imaginary friend, does he talk back? This is not an insult, Im calling god an imaginary friend because logically speaking, he is.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why can't you let people love each other? Hmm?

To play Devils' advocate for a moment, would you say the same in the case of incest?

Originally posted by wxyz
To play Devils' advocate for a moment, would you say the same in the case of incest?

I don't think that's a fair comparison, but generally, what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home is their business.

So you think incest is okay?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why can't you let people love each other? Hmm? As John Lennon would have said.

Originally posted by wxyz
So you think incest is okay?

I honestly don't know. I'd never do it, personally.

But like I said, what two consenting adults do behind closed doors is their business. It's not up to me to judge them as long as they aren't hurting anyone.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
As John Lennon would have said.

Of all the people to use as an example lol

Originally posted by -Pr-
I honestly don't know. I'd never do it, personally.

But like I said, what two consenting adults do behind closed doors is their business. It's not up to me to judge them as long as they aren't hurting anyone.



Of all the people to use as an example lol

At least you're consistent.

I don't care much for this "cool pope." He's not cool enough

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think that's a fair comparison, but generally, what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home is their business.



If you don't see the problem with incest, abortion, and homosexuality then I seriously doubt you're a real Christian.

And honestly, you don't have to be a Christian to see the problems with incest and abortion.

And it's more gay so-called "marriage" that I have a problem with rather than actual homosexual acts that 2 guys might engage in in the privacy of their own homes or whatever.


A man lying with another man is an abomination in the eyes of God regardless of whether they are "married" or not or what I think of it.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
If you don't see the problem with incest, abortion, and homosexuality then I seriously doubt you're a real Christian.

And honestly, you don't have to be a Christian to see the problems with incest and abortion.

And it's more gay so-called "marriage" that I have a problem with rather than actual homosexual acts that 2 guys might engage in in the privacy of their own homes or whatever.


A man lying with another man is an abomination in the eyes of God regardless of whether they are "married" or not or what I think of it. Don't worry mate. Nobody wants to **** you anyway.

Just imagine someone saying to the Creator of the universe and also his or herself "Yo, Mr. Jehovah! I think you need to change with da times, bro! Update your archaic ways! We don't care if you made us and the universe, you need to conform to what we think is right! We're the new arbiters of what is morally right and wrong!".


I imagine that wouldn't turn out to well for whoever said that to him lol.

@ethneo, how do you think future Popes are going to deal with this?

"Hey Xenu, where's my planet?"

Originally posted by wxyz
@ethneo, how do you think future Popes are going to deal with this?


Don't know and don't care; as I said before I'm not a catholic nor do I consider Roman Catholicism to be part of real Christianity.


Imo, Francis is going to be the last pope ever.... I feel we are getting really close to the end. The Great Tribulation will probably happen within the next 5-10 years and after that Christ will return to gather up His elect during the rapture right before God lets loose His vengeful wrath upon the world.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Don't know and don't care; as I said before I'm not a catholic nor do I consider Roman Catholicism to be part of real Christianity.


Imo, Francis is going to be the last pope ever.... I feel we are getting really close to the end. The Great Tribulation will probably happen within the next 5-10 years and after that Christ will return to gather up His elect during the rapture right before God lets loose His vengeful wrath upon the world. What is the real christianity?

@ethneo, why don't you think Roman Catholicism real Christianity?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Don't know and don't care; as I said before I'm not a catholic nor do I consider Roman Catholicism to be part of real Christianity.


Imo, Francis is going to be the last pope ever.... I feel we are getting really close to the end. The Great Tribulation will probably happen within the next 5-10 years and after that Christ will return to gather up His elect during the rapture right before God lets loose His vengeful wrath upon the world. Oh you're one of those the rapture is right around the corner Christians.

That's actually one of the reasons I became an atheist. Like what kind of "loving" god would do that to their children.

None that I would ever believe in.

Originally posted by Newjak
Oh you're one of those the rapture is right around the corner Christians.

That's actually one of the reasons I became an atheist. Like what kind of "loving" god would do that to their children.

None that I would ever believe in. He is. Has been for years. It's borderline mental illness/handicapped.

Originally posted by wxyz
@ethneo, why don't you think Roman Catholicism real Christianity?


I've already posted my reasons for that on multiple occasions and it's really annoying having to repeat myself over and over again.


I won't go into detail yet again but I'll briefly give some general reasons:


1. Catholics belief that the pope is the head of Christ's church. Jesus Himself is actually the true head of it, not a any sinful, fallible human... and most certainly not one who teaches anti-biblical doctrines.

2. Roman Catholicism teaches a false gospel wherein a person has to work at getting salvation. They believe in a "good works salvation."

The real gospel teaches we are saved by grace thru faith in Jesus Christ and what He did for us on the cross. Our sins (both past and future) are paid in full by His blood. Our good works contribute nothing to it whatsoever.

3. Roman Catholicism has pagan roots. The early church compromised by allowing romanism into it. Many of the statues they have in their cathedrals which they claim are people like Mary (whom catholics almost seem to worship) and other important people in Bible actually were originally statues of roman gods and goddesses.

4. Mary Worship. They seem to worship Mary as if she is actually a goddess. They have statues (which they claim are her but they aren't). They are always doing things like kissing the feet of them or praying to them.

They have their "Hail Mary!" prayer wherein they just praise Mary over and over again. They praise Mary far more than they do Jesus, Himself.

Mary was a sinner though just like the rest of us which is why she basically admitted she needed a savior. If anyone was truly sinless they wouldn't need Christ.

Mary cannot hear their prayers anyway. She is not omniscient or omnipresent as God is. She was indeed blessed among women but that is all she was: a woman. She was not and is not divine in any way.

5.They teach people to confess their sins to a priest in a confessional booth when they should be directly asking God Himself to forgive them, not some priest who is a sinner himself.

6.The pope has all of that gold he wears and his throne is made out of gold too. He wears a gold crown on his head.

Jesus would never condone someone who preaches His message to dress like that. He would want them to give away all that gold in order to feed people.

And yes, I know the RCC has fed people. I'm not claiming the RCC has never done any good. But if the pope were truly Christian he
would not be dressing as if he were a king or something lol.

There are many more reasons but those are just off the top of my head. If you are really interested in it there are plenty of videos on You Tube describing why Roman Catholicism is not really Christian. I might post some links to them later on if I get time.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I've already posted my reasons for that on multiple occasions and it's really annoying having to repeat myself over and over again.


I won't go into detail yet again but I'll briefly give some general reasons:


1. Catholics belief that the pope is the head of Christ's church. Jesus Himself is actually the true head of it, not a any sinful, fallible human... and most certainly not one who teaches anti-biblical doctrines.

2. Roman Catholicism teaches a false gospel wherein a person has to work at getting salvation. They believe in a "good works salvation."

The real gospel teaches we are saved by grace thru faith in Jesus Christ and what He did for us on the cross. Our sins (both past and future) are paid in full by His blood. Our good works contribute nothing to it whatsoever.

3. Roman Catholicism has pagan roots. The early church compromised by allowing romanism into it. Many of the statues they have in their cathedrals which they claim are people like Mary (whom catholics almost seem to worship) and other important people in Bible actually were originally statues of roman gods and goddesses.

4. Mary Worship. They seem to worship Mary as if she is actually a goddess. They have statues (which they claim are her but they aren't). They are always doing things like kissing the feet of them or praying to them.

They have their "Hail Mary!" prayer wherein they just praise Mary over and over again. They praise Mary far more than they do Jesus, Himself.
Mary was a sinner though just like the rest of us which is why she basically admitted she needed a savior. If anyone was truly sinless they wouldn't need Christ.

Mary cannot hear their prayers anyway. She is not omniscient or omnipresent as God is. She was indeed blessed among women but that is all she was: a woman. She was not and is not divine in any way.

5.They teach people to confess their sins to a priest in a confessional booth when they should be directly asking God Himself to forgive them, not some priest who is a sinner himself.

6.The pope has all of that gold he wears and his throne is made out of gold too. He wears a gold crown on his head.

Jesus would never condone someone who preaches His message to dress like that. He would want them to give away all that gold in order to feed people.

And yes, I know the RCC has fed people. I'm not claiming the RCC has never done any good. But if the pope were try Christian he
would not be dressing as if he were a king or something lol.

There are many more reasons but those are just off the top of my head. If you are really interested in it there are plenty of videos on You Tube describing why Roman Catholicism is not really Christian. I might post some links to them later on if I get time. I'm starting to understand your thinking, virgin.

Originally posted by Newjak
Oh you're one of those the rapture is right around the corner Christians.

That's actually one of the reasons I became an atheist. Like what kind of "loving" god would do that to their children.

None that I would ever believe in.


*yawn*


Dude, I don't care... you can mock and ridicule all you want. Your opinion of me or my beliefs doesn't mean shit to me; nor do I really care about your story of how you became an atheist.


If me stating my beliefs bothers you so much them perhaps you should just put me on ignore.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
*yawn*


Dude, I don't care... you can mock and ridicule all you want. Your opinion of me or my beliefs doesn't mean shit to me; nor do I really care about your story of how you became an atheist.


If me stating my beliefs bothers you so much them perhaps you should just put me on ignore. lol

Yeah, lol that me stating my beliefs triggers little snowflakes like you so much.

I think you really need to get over yourself.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
dur

ermmnone

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

etc.

Blake: go away Hitler-loving troll.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think that's a fair comparison, but generally, what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home is their business.

Originally posted by wxyz
So you think incest is okay?

Yes. Not only is it okay, but humans would not exist had we not HEAVILY practiced incest for thousands of years.

The probability birth defects and genetic defects, between first cousins, is less than the probability for women who are 37 and older. So if you oppose incest relationships because of the dangers to offspring, and want it codified into law, you should also pass the same law prohibiting women who are 37 and older from having children.

Let consenting adults do what they want with each other.

Agreed?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
If you don't see the problem with incest, abortion, and homosexuality then I seriously doubt you're a real Christian.

And honestly, you don't have to be a Christian to see the problems with incest and abortion.

And it's more gay so-called "marriage" that I have a problem with rather than actual homosexual acts that 2 guys might engage in in the privacy of their own homes or whatever.


A man lying with another man is an abomination in the eyes of God regardless of whether they are "married" or not or what I think of it.

Dude...incest is a common "thing" in the bible. Not sure how a Christian would oppose incest for Christian reasons.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Just imagine someone saying to the Creator of the universe and also his or herself "Yo, Mr. Jehovah! I think you need to change with da times, bro! Update your archaic ways! We don't care if you made us and the universe, you need to conform to what we think is right! We're the new arbiters of what is morally right and wrong!".


I imagine that wouldn't turn out to well for whoever said that to him lol.

Adam and Eve were direct brother and sister, if you believe the Garden of Eden story is not an allegory. In Christian Mythology, humanity starts with two heaping scoops of sibling incest.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes. Not only is it okay, but humans would not exist had we not HEAVILY practiced incest for thousands of years.

The probability birth defects and genetic defects, between first cousins, is less than the probability for women who are 37 and older. So if you oppose incest relationships because of the dangers to offspring, and want it codified into law, you should also pass the same law prohibiting women who are 37 and older from having children.

Let consenting adults do what they want with each other.

Agreed?


Yes, incest was okay for a time after the creation. In fact, there wasn't enough humans available at the time to engage in non- incest sex.


Incest is not okay anymore though. It can lead to freak mutations and deformities and, more importantly, God now forbids it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Dude...incest is a common "thing" in the bible. Not sure how a Christian would oppose incest for Christian reasons.



Adam and Eve were direct brother and sister, if you believe the Garden of Eden story is not an allegory. In Christian Mythology, humanity starts with two heaping scoops of sibling incest.


I've already answered this with my other post. Incest was okay back then as there weren't enough people to engage in non-incest sex, it's not ok anymore. Today we have a much bigger genetic load to contend with which can lead to deformities and such if close relatives reproduce.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
If you don't see the problem with incest, abortion, and homosexuality then I seriously doubt you're a real Christian.

And honestly, you don't have to be a Christian to see the problems with incest and abortion.

And it's more gay so-called "marriage" that I have a problem with rather than actual homosexual acts that 2 guys might engage in in the privacy of their own homes or whatever.


A man lying with another man is an abomination in the eyes of God regardless of whether they are "married" or not or what I think of it.

You don't get to decide whether I am or am not a real Christian. My communion and confirmation do. The church does. And for all their faults, according to them, I'm one of the boys. And yet, they're not God.

To me, speaking on behalf of God is a pretty shitty thing to do. But that's me.

So I don't exactly consider you much of a Christian yourself. Though, just as you don't, I don't get to decide those things either.

Keep your fallacies to yourself, thanks.

Originally posted by wxyz
@ethneo, why don't you think Roman Catholicism real Christianity?

Because Catholics weren't puritanical enough for the Christians that ****ed off to America back in the day. A point they reminded them of when immigrant Catholics left Europe to come to America, only to be treated like shit.

No, I've already answered some of the reasons that Roman Catholicism is not real Christianity. People coming to America had nothing to do with it lol.

He didn't ask you anyway. His question was directed at me.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yes, incest was okay for a time after the creation. In fact, there wasn't enough humans available at the time to engage in non- incest sex.


Incest is not okay anymore though. It can lead to freak mutations and deformities and, more importantly, God now forbids it. The mental gymnastics are incredible.

Originally posted by Blakemore
The mental gymnastics are incredible.

autism is a hell of a drug. reeeeeeeeeeee!

Originally posted by Blakemore
The mental gymnastics are incredible.


Nah, none of those are needed. It's easy to shut down people like you without them.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
No, I've already answered some of the reasons that Roman Catholicism is not real Christianity. People coming to America had nothing to do with it lol.

He didn't ask you anyway. His question was directed at me.

Luckily, tbat's not your decision to make.

True, but I wanted him to hear it from a "real" Christian.

Mass incest also happened after the deluge, as that fairy-tale tells us only eight humans survived.

Originally posted by Robtard
Mass incest also happened after the deluge, as that fairy-tale tells us only eight humans survived.

very christian

I'm sure any minute now pooty will be saying how people ganging-up on me is wrong and embarrassing.

After all, Pooty is very consistent in his whining, isn't he?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I'm sure any minute now pooty will be saying how people ganging-up on me is wrong and embarrassing.

After all, Pooty is very consistent in his whining, isn't he? Where are people ganging up on you?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yes, incest was okay for a time after the creation. In fact, there wasn't enough humans available at the time to engage in non- incest sex.


Incest is not okay anymore though. It can lead to freak mutations and deformities and, more importantly, God now forbids it.

Where does God forbid it in either the Old or New Testament?

Seriously, I don't remember it. I have a "legendary memory"* even greater than Robtard's but this is not ringing a bell.

*Robtard's words he uses to describe his memory. I don't think I have a legendary memory.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Where are people ganging up on you?


Dude, are you blind?

"but...but...but muh feefees! whaaaaaaaaaa!", etc

same as it ever was

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Dude, are you blind? No, but show me where you think people are ganging up on you?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
No, but show me where you think people are ganging up on you?

gop is now the party of captain hook, terrified of clocks and the passage of time