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The JL lineup:

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
The Flash
Hawkgirl
Green Lantern
Martian Manhunter

The Avengers lineup:

Ironman
Thor
Hulk
Captain America
Black Widow
Scarlet Witch
Vision

All at their strongest, nobody is holding back.

Flash soloes.

Scarlet Witch soloes.

I'm assuming you don't know who DCAU Flash is. If you do, tell me his best feat.

And yes, I have seen all the avengers movies many times.

Originally posted by riv6672
Scarlet Witch soloes.

Eh, Flash and Superman can take out most of the team before anything happens. To be fair even Flash himself could do it alone.

Superman could toss Hulk into space. And his heat vision can pierce beings even more durable than he is, and he's strong enough to shake a city with his punches when mad.

Even ignoring Flashes uber speed force mode that nearly killed him, we saw what he was capable of when Lex possessed his body.

Maybe including the Flash was overkill.

Wtf? The animated universe? The Avengers are f*cked in every way.

Justice League now, but after Wandavision, probably Avengers.

Originally posted by Surtur
Eh, Flash and Superman can take out most of the team before anything happens. To be fair even Flash himself could do it alone.

Superman could toss Hulk into space. And his heat vision can pierce beings even more durable than he is, and he's strong enough to shake a city with his punches when mad.

Even ignoring Flashes uber speed force mode that nearly killed him, we saw what he was capable of when Lex possessed his body.

Maybe including the Flash was overkill.


This entire thread is overkill and you know it. This is spite city and you should feel bad for making such a one-sided fight. You literally took one of the most powerful iterations of the JL, an animated one at that. And put them up against one of, if not the weakest version of Marvel heroes.

Clark solos

Originally posted by KingD19
This entire thread is overkill and you know it. This is spite city and you should feel bad for making such a one-sided fight. You literally took one of the most powerful iterations of the JL, an animated one at that. And put them up against one of, if not the weakest version of Marvel heroes.

I was honestly expecting more of a challenge. I figured Flash could take out some easily, but Thor Hulk and Vision would be trouble. Vision especially given what he's made of.

I was expecting a debate on whether or not he could kill them via a phasing trick.

What if I removed the flash? And made it so there is no BFR? This way Hulk is still in play.

Originally posted by Surtur
I was honestly expecting more of a challenge. I figured Flash could take out some easily, but Thor Hulk and Vision would be trouble. Vision especially given what he's made of.

I was expecting a debate on whether or not he could kill them via a phasing trick.

What if I removed the flash? And made it so there is no BFR? This way Hulk is still in play.

The only people Flash couldn't take out almost immediately are Thor, Hulk, and Vision.

As for Vision phasing, as much as I want to count Vision phasing, the most we've ever seen him phase is an Iron Legion bot. You can't even begin to compare that to someone like Superman or Diana. And we know that physically Corvus Glaive could toss him around.

Even without Wally, Supes is still nearly as fast as him, which has been proven multiple times in Justice League and the Superman Animated Series. And he's by far the strongest person there, with Wonder Woman and Manhunter being close behind. J'onn can also mind rape basically everyone on the Avengers if he felt like it, and he can and has done more phasing than Vision has even tried. Even Lantern is a beast and can do some serious damage and Hawkgirl's mace will wreck just about anyone she hits aside from Thor and Hulk. And considering Thor is magic, the Nth metal may even screw up his powers.

It's just a bad matchup. The DCAU has waaaay too many high ends over too much time. The MCU is amazing, but it's obviously downplayed on the actual power levels to focus more on the narrative.

Honestly though the DCAU did the same thing when it comes to downplaying power levels to focus on narrative. They are nowhere near as powerful as their comic counterparts. Superman especially fluctuated.

Though yeah in hindsight this was a mismatch, the MCU just isn't there yet.

I'm next gonna put the MCU avengers up against Graviton from the Avengers cartoon.

No I'm jk that would be mean.

Originally posted by Surtur
Honestly though the DCAU did the same thing when it comes to downplaying power levels to focus on narrative. They are nowhere near as powerful as their comic counterparts. Superman especially fluctuated.

Though yeah in hindsight this was a mismatch, the MCU just isn't there yet.

I'm next gonna put the MCU avengers up against Graviton from the Avengers cartoon.

No I'm jk that would be mean.

Even downplaying from the comics, the DCAU still had Flash reaching lightspeed twice. Lantern flinging stuff into orbit from the ground. Us finding out that before he fought Darkseid in the finale, Superman had been holding back against everyone he'd ever fought maybe aside from Doomsday. Manhunter doing 4th dimensional chess with peoples brains, Diana being nearly as strong as Clark, etc...

The first season was relatively tame, but as time went on things got epic. They would end up wrecking sh*t like MoS.

And yeah, I was gonna say, Graviton could have done the entire Sokovia drop from Ultron all by himself. He easily picked up Manhattan...and the chunk of ground beneath it.

Its even more of stomp if feats from JL vs The Fatal Five are added.

Originally posted by playa1258
Its even more of stomp if feats from JL vs The Fatal Five are added.

Then I am definitely adding those.

https://media.giphy.com/media/x7gjmBuaHrWak/giphy.gif

It's not as much as a stomp as people are saying but ultimately the speed of the heavy hitters on the JL team win them the day.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It's not as much as a stomp as people are saying but ultimately the speed of the heavy hitters on the JL team win them the day.

This is what I thought. I figured there would be some fight once people like Cap and Black Widow and the worthless people were dead.

I didn't even include Hawkeye. Cuz why bother?

Originally posted by playa1258
Its even more of stomp if feats from JL vs The Fatal Five are added. If these are counted from what I hear it is a stomp though. Idk the details but I guess Superman has moon buster tanking levels of durability and brute strength in that.

Superman got KOED by a glancing blow from the JLU watchtower laser(lol these f*ckers legit built a death ray into their space station).

So who knows.

Originally posted by NemeBro
If these are counted from what I hear it is a stomp though. Idk the details but I guess Superman has moon buster tanking levels of durability and brute strength in that. Tanked a star busting attack going off in his face after flying several times light speed.

Whaaat, I don't even know.

Okay wait I created a thread about that movie.

lol