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State your Political Party with your Posting Name.

Democrat
Republican
Libertarian
Other.

It will make it easier for the Mods when the Great Ban Hammer Purge comes.

Republican with Libertarian leanings.

And its already started.

Poor Surt didn't even have to State his standing.

Democrat with Liberal Social views and a clear conscience of having not voted for Antichrist Damien Trump or his cretinous cohorts in either election

Lestov, who did you vote for?

Liberal, Voted for Joe Biden

No. You voted Socialist Leftist. Big Diff from "Liberal".

Democrats stole that from Libertarians.

Nota

Uber antifa communist Marxist auth lib.

I knew Backfire was a Commie.

Liberal

Originally posted by Robtard
Liberal

Rob put republican first and edited

Originally posted by Surt1
Rob put republican first and edited Dude, don't get your main account deleted over an opinion, lol.

Whether right or wrong just drop it.

Democunt or Repulicunt

Either way...

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Dude, don't get your main account deleted over an opinion, lol.

Whether right or wrong just drop it.

If I dropped it they'd just continue behaving this way.

Which is not going to be tolerated any longer.

Pessimist who doesn't think any political system can work for any extended period of time. Humanity is doomed to repeat its mistakes time and time again until we die out (and thank **** whenever that happens).

Idealist stance: anarchist. Every man should be his own master. Every man should care for his brother, and other. We should rule ourselves. (Humans are incapable of this, sadly.)

Also a believer in liberty (the real, scary kind), nationalism (the small-scale civic kind, no ethnic bullshit, more a stance on working borders than anything), and retaining tried-and-true methods whilst still striving for new methods (conservative-progressivism).

Social policies are necessary and must be worked on until we find something that reduces unnecessary suffering without limiting innate liberties.

Ideal stance: tiger pose

The big question here really is: does anybody actually have ethics? Because ethics tend to inform political positions. I feel like most people here have political loyalties, but no actual innate ethics, instead basing their political beliefs upon those of the tribe they serve.

Originally posted by Scribble
The big question here really is: does anybody actually have ethics? Because ethics tend to inform political positions. I feel like most people here have political loyalties, but no actual innate ethics, instead basing their political beliefs upon those of the tribe they serve.

I chose the company I work for primarily based on their ethical stances, policies and actions.

Socially liberal, economically centrist.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I chose the company I work for primarily based on their ethical stances, policies and actions. That likely puts you ahead of most people here as it is, lol.


What are your primary ethics, as an individual?

Independent.

I don't agree with most Republicans in the office, and liberals are just morally corrupted.

Socialist

I try to do my "good deed" for the day every day. Lately that involves a lot of pretty heavy conversations with my staff, a lot of whom are struggling with mental health through the pandemic. Currently helping someone get help for alcoholism. They've been sober 4 weeks now and we've gotten past a lot of the physical symptoms. I've learned to draw certain lines though as quite often in the past I would help others to the detriment of myself.

Environmentally I try my best to make my impact on the planet as positive as possible. When I inherited my father's home after he passed away I spent a considerable amount of money getting it to the point where it was a net producer of electricity and sold that back to the grid. I'm not perfect on this front by any means. I still drink bottled water despite living in a country with some of the best drinkable tap water in the world. I'm working on that.

Like I said, I choose to work for an employer that reflects those 2 facets. They have a pretty comprehensive corporate responsibility statement and ethical policies.

I'm a trade unionist. Old school, worker's rights, workplace conditions etc.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I try to do my "good deed" for the day every day. Lately that involves a lot of pretty heavy conversations with my staff, a lot of whom are struggling with mental health through the pandemic. Currently helping someone get help for alcoholism. They've been sober 4 weeks now and we've gotten past a lot of the physical symptoms. I've learned to draw certain lines though as quite often in the past I would help others to the detriment of myself.

Environmentally I try my best to make my impact on the planet as positive as possible. When I inherited my father's home after he passed away I spent a considerable amount of money getting it to the point where it was a net producer of electricity and sold that back to the grid. I'm not perfect on this front by any means. I still drink bottled water despite living in a country with some of the best drinkable tap water in the world. I'm working on that.

Like I said, I choose to work for an employer that reflects those 2 facets. They have a pretty comprehensive corporate responsibility statement and ethical policies.

I'm a trade unionist. Old school, worker's rights, workplace conditions etc. You're a human. A damn good one.

I'd like to do more. I've tried in the past to make my purchase decisions based on researching the companies whose products I'd be getting. It takes more time, effort and memory I can spare. It's hard enough picking the retailers let alone the origins of each and every product.

I try to do it for bigger household purchases though.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I try to do my "good deed" for the day every day. Lately that involves a lot of pretty heavy conversations with my staff, a lot of whom are struggling with mental health through the pandemic. Currently helping someone get help for alcoholism. They've been sober 4 weeks now and we've gotten past a lot of the physical symptoms. I've learned to draw certain lines though as quite often in the past I would help others to the detriment of myself.

Environmentally I try my best to make my impact on the planet as positive as possible. When I inherited my father's home after he passed away I spent a considerable amount of money getting it to the point where it was a net producer of electricity and sold that back to the grid. I'm not perfect on this front by any means. I still drink bottled water despite living in a country with some of the best drinkable tap water in the world. I'm working on that.

Like I said, I choose to work for an employer that reflects those 2 facets. They have a pretty comprehensive corporate responsibility statement and ethical policies.

I'm a trade unionist. Old school, worker's rights, workplace conditions etc.

Your staff is probably all alcoholics because they have to work with you

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Your staff is probably all alcoholics because they have to work with you

Probably.

Liberal independent that votes Democrat out of necessity

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I try to do my "good deed" for the day every day. Lately that involves a lot of pretty heavy conversations with my staff, a lot of whom are struggling with mental health through the pandemic. Currently helping someone get help for alcoholism. They've been sober 4 weeks now and we've gotten past a lot of the physical symptoms. I've learned to draw certain lines though as quite often in the past I would help others to the detriment of myself.

Environmentally I try my best to make my impact on the planet as positive as possible. When I inherited my father's home after he passed away I spent a considerable amount of money getting it to the point where it was a net producer of electricity and sold that back to the grid. I'm not perfect on this front by any means. I still drink bottled water despite living in a country with some of the best drinkable tap water in the world. I'm working on that.

Like I said, I choose to work for an employer that reflects those 2 facets. They have a pretty comprehensive corporate responsibility statement and ethical policies.

I'm a trade unionist. Old school, worker's rights, workplace conditions etc. He's what you do. Take a big bottle of water,or a few small bottles and once you're finished, keep the bottle, fill it up with tap water and put it in the fridge. Boom, no waste, constant bottled water. They're refillable too.

Liberal leaning, with economically socialist views. I haven't gone all the way to the Green party yet though, because they seem unrealistic about their goals.

Originally posted by Blakemore
He's what you do. Take a big bottle of water,or a few small bottles and once you're finished, keep the bottle, fill it up with tap water and put it in the fridge. Boom, no waste, constant bottled water. They're refillable too.

Will need to get an actual refillable bottle as you're not supposed to reuse single use bottles for too long as the plastic degrades and contaminates the water.

Originally posted by Scribble
The big question here really is: does anybody actually have ethics? Because ethics tend to inform political positions. I feel like most people here have political loyalties, but no actual innate ethics, instead basing their political beliefs upon those of the tribe they serve. I think this is a fantastic question.

Honestly I do try to put my ethics into informing my politics choosing the ones I think have the best outcome more the most people.

For instance healthcare, getting rid of income inequality, saving the environment, affordable education.

Old school British trade unionist.

I wish I worked for Jaden.

Originally posted by wxyz
Republican with Libertarian leanings.

https://i.imgflip.com/4qj1xh.jpg

Oops, you let the mask slip again, not-Eon Blue.

Chaotic Neutral

You just reminded me how Chris Pine got cast recently in the D&D movie

Originally posted by BackFire
I wish I worked for Jaden.

I'd put your purdy mouth to earning, right quick.

My political stances are easy to show because I don't hide them:


https://i.imgur.com/nk3wxx6.png


Originally posted by Scribble
The big question here really is: does anybody actually have ethics? Because ethics tend to inform political positions. I feel like most people here have political loyalties, but no actual innate ethics, instead basing their political beliefs upon those of the tribe they serve.

Yes. I'm a virtue ethicist and a utilitarian.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I try to do my "good deed" for the day every day. Lately that involves a lot of pretty heavy conversations with my staff, a lot of whom are struggling with mental health through the pandemic. Currently helping someone get help for alcoholism. They've been sober 4 weeks now and we've gotten past a lot of the physical symptoms. I've learned to draw certain lines though as quite often in the past I would help others to the detriment of myself.

Environmentally I try my best to make my impact on the planet as positive as possible. When I inherited my father's home after he passed away I spent a considerable amount of money getting it to the point where it was a net producer of electricity and sold that back to the grid. I'm not perfect on this front by any means. I still drink bottled water despite living in a country with some of the best drinkable tap water in the world. I'm working on that.

Like I said, I choose to work for an employer that reflects those 2 facets. They have a pretty comprehensive corporate responsibility statement and ethical policies.

I'm a trade unionist. Old school, worker's rights, workplace conditions etc.

This is one of the deepest posts you've posted, before.

You're a good dude.

Originally posted by dadudemon
My political stances are easy to show because I don't hide them:


https://i.imgur.com/nk3wxx6.png




Yes. I'm a virtue ethicist and a utilitarian.

Where can one take this quiz?

Lately I've been thinking of myself as a Conservative Progressive. What does this mean? Eg, marriage. I believe people should be married* before they have kids. OTOH, I have no problem with same-sex marriages. To express my stance without political labeling: I believe in Balance between Rights and Responsibilities. Individual power + social mindedness. Strong healthy parts to yield a strong healthy whole.

*Ideally, I'd also like to see emotional and financial readiness, but hey, this is the real world after all.

Everyone else's posts are like this:
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Whereas DDM's posts are like:
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Originally posted by Blakemore
Everyone else's posts are like this:
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Whereas DDM's posts are like:
& quot;REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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fixed that for you

In terms of economics, I'm pretty much a social liberal when it comes to the western hemisphere. When everybody starts from the ground, open unregulated free markets are the best, but the more economy grows, the greater ability to concentrate wealth and power rise, so the market actually needs more regulations to remain free and offering equal opportunities. Things are obviously way more complicated and convoluted than that, but the simplest example is the existence of monopolies. I'm in favor of the least regulations possible to achieve control over that, and basic redistribution. I support trying to start with UBI in the most automated countries instead of convoluted welfare systems. I'm also in favor of tax-payed education. I think healthcare should be private in the low-end (basic diagnosis of everyday shit, basic medicine) and public in the high-end (sudden life-threatening cases, cancer treatment, cardiology), I think the Netherlands have a good system about this kind of stuff. Switzerland is also pretty great.

Regarding political system: I'm honestly neutral. Some cultures thrive more under autocratic rulers, I think for example democratic China would be a mess. Democracy all the way for Europe and North America, tho. TRUE liberal democracy tho, not democracy as a dictatorship of the majority, like in Poland's case.

Socially: freedom means people can do whatever they want as long as they don't affect others. They are free to be retarded as well. State should have no say in cultural affairs.

Why do you think some cultures and Democracy don't gel?

I ask, because after America "freed" Iraq, some noted that while the Iraqis were oppressed and tortured under Saddam's dictatorship, the county as a whole was more stable.

Originally posted by Robtard
Why do you think some cultures and Democracy don't gel?

I ask, because after America "freed" Iraq, some noted that while the Iraqis were oppressed and tortured under Saddam's dictatorship, the county as a whole was more stable.

For the same reason that the children of conservative, religious, and strict parents often misbehave. Anyone can "be good" when they are following a proscriptive set of rules. But once those people have to make good choices on their own, having little to no experience beforehand, they make a lot of mistakes. Who would have thought that making people live by a set of pronouncements to "do this" and "do not do that" does not provide them with a framework to make moral decisions for problems that are not enumerated on their list?

well I mean lots of the places have had their societies under various forms of autocracy, oligarchy etc. for ages now, and they don't really seem to be interested that much in democracy, even in countries that are very civilized and wealthy, like United Arab Emirates. these people prefer their monarchies and seem content with them, have no real strive for democracy, no real democratic traditions, etc.

then you have to include that democracy isn't something you set up in a year or so, it has to be a gradual process, like look at Europe, besides revolutions (which are another thing, and they come from within of a country) all the pro-democracy changes were generally gradual. society that's not used to democracy and never functioned in it just can't transit too quickly if it's totally normal for them to live under an absolute monarchy or stuff like that. it's totally the case in the Emirati culture for instance

and yes Iraq is a good example, Saddam was bad etc and was a monster, but Iraqi people just don't feel too good about democracy; they obviously don't want another Saddam, but democracy doesn't really seem a good thing for them

I obviously think democracy is generally the best (despite insane problems it has), but it has to come from within and has to be done gradually, democracy imported from the US won't work lol. and in many cases people don't want it and are fine in their systems; autocracy is way, way way way more dangerous, but UAE, or Bahrain, they're doing well with their system. things may change, but for now, it's not for us to decide for these guys

Originally posted by Robtard
Why do you think some cultures and Democracy don't gel?

I ask, because after America "freed" Iraq, some noted that while the Iraqis were oppressed and tortured under Saddam's dictatorship, the county as a whole was more stable.

Aint that funny... How the Left will ALWAYS Side with the DICTATORS and MONSTERS because of STABILITY!?

As long as the Trains to the Execution Centers Run On Time.


Go Eat Your OWN SHIT YOU FASCIST PHUNT!

Originally posted by dadudemon
My political stances are easy to show because I don't hide them:


https://i.imgur.com/nk3wxx6.png




Yes. I'm a virtue ethicist and a utilitarian.


Those are some pretty phucked up results.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
fixed that for you Thx.

Stop talking to your Sock Self Blakey.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Why do you think some cultures and Democracy don't gel?

I ask, because after America "freed" Iraq, some noted that while the Iraqis were oppressed and tortured under Saddam's dictatorship, the county as a whole was more stable.

Destroying a lot of the country in order to 'save' it, killing a half million Iraqi civilians in the air bombardments and unintentionally starting a civil war between Sunni and Shiite Muslims - you could substitute 'stable' with 'bludgeoned into submission.'

God said work. When the darkness comes the time for work will be over. That is what all governments need to do.

When Bin Laden was killed in '11, there was an uprising. Chaos ensued and after Obama administered the pulling out of Iraq and set up a shia government, as Iraq was mostly shia anyway, the Syrian civil war, which was already being fled by terrorists to exploit the situation, then turned their aims on Iraq and Al Qaeda in Iraq came to be. This later became ISIS.

To answer Rob's question, religion and oil, mostly. Damn Mussodegh!

Originally posted by Robtard
Why do you think some cultures and Democracy don't gel?

I ask, because after America "freed" Iraq, some noted that while the Iraqis were oppressed and tortured under Saddam's dictatorship, the county as a whole was more stable.

Philosophically it's just better if more Iraqis are killed, tortured and oppressed under US occupation than if any are under Saddam's rule.

Oh How I Love to see KMC's Lefti Brigage Once again Side weith Actual Murderous Dictators over their Own Countries.

I wish the same upon you and your own.

The US has killed and caused the deaths of vastly more people in the Iraq than Saddam Hussein, that's just true. I don't think pointing that out is siding with anyone.

BULL FcUCK and SHIT!

This is just a plate White WAAAH WEE BAD GUILT!

Go Roll It and Shove it up that College Debt Filled Ass Hole that You should be forece to Pay FOR!

Do it Twice. Its Christmas!

Also Can't Wait for Prez Biden to start up a war and go out there and start killing all them Black and Brown PEOPLE!

Go Democrats!

The Saddam regime would shoot people in the street for not saluting them. They would torture prisoners by locking them in a closet with an angry tiger. They gassed the kurds similar to Hitler's gassing of the jews. They put electric drills through people's heads!

They were ****ing mad!

And what justifies you and your Hate Speech?

Oh Yeah.. LEFTISM!

Never Mind.

Originally posted by Blakemore
The Saddam regime would shoot people in the street for not saluting them. They would torture prisoners by locking them in a closet with an angry tiger. They gassed the kurds similar to Hitler's gassing of the jews. They put electric drills through people's heads!

They were ****ing mad!

And it was all done with the approval of the Republicans in the White House during the 1980's, because Saddam was their point man against Iran and the Ayatollah. When the gas attack happened in 1988, the US refused to sanction Saddam for it.

...and the Kennedys were in bed with the Mafia....and so on and so forth.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
...and the Kennedys were in bed with the Mafia....and so on and so forth.

This is true, there basically haven't been any good presidents. And often the Republicans and Democrats were in bed together to screw working Americans.

This is why Mankind CANNOT Ever achieve an Actual Utopia! IT can not be achieved because of Human Nature.

Yeah, a utopia is impossible I agree, a better world is possible though.

I think Bush Sr really ought to have taken him out in the 90s. His son and Clinton only just ****ed things up even further, then you have Obama and Trump. Oh jeez.

I say after this election, even if Trump pulls some kind of Court Win.
There will Never be a Republican Prez in the U.S after this. Not util after a Massive War or Fall of Society as we know it kind of event.

Hope I live to see it!

Originally posted by Flyattractor
I say after this election, even if Trump pulls some kind of Court Win.
There will Never be a Republican Prez in the U.S after this. Not util after a Massive War or Fall of Society as we know it kind of event.

Hope I live to see it! What about Jeb?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/023/699/Screen_Shot_2017-08-17_at_3.57.59_PM.jpg

Please clap.

I loved how Trump destroyed Jeb.

Originally posted by wxyz
I loved how Trump destroyed Jeb. Jeb really didn't have much of a chance tbh. He's from a corrupt family that stole Florida in an election whilst he was governor, his father and brother were unlikable presidents who both caused controversial wars in Iraq and recessions, then you have 9/11, scandals, excessive police brutality on the war on drugs... etc.

Inb4 Obama was worse, yeah, I know, he was a pushover.

Plus, he's married to a Mexican.

latina heeeeeat

Originally posted by Artol
Where can one take this quiz?

isidewith.com

I like how the 2 bottom "Right Wing" Results have both Individualism and Assimilation, but none of the Left Wing ones do.

Lolzerz!

I love talking to my left-wing buddies. They are like matches.

So easy to light aflame.

Originally posted by wxyz
Plus, he's married to a Mexican. I think it was more a case of her being his his height.

Poor Jeb.

He was the establishment favorite and Trump dominated.