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Well?

No weakness exploitation.

Damn.. you have to higher than eternity.

Do you have scans of the fight between Prime and Darkest Knight?

Let me try to get them.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Damn.. you have to higher than eternity. I don't think there's really any character that I could put him against that would even be fair baring beyond abstracts like Lucifer and shit.

Dude hit Batman who laughs so hard he shattered the 52 Earths realities, beat the Batman who laughs and recreated Earth Prime Universe. It's essentially 5th dimension warping by punching.It's quite absurd.

Should've made it Prime vs Phoenix to get GS into this mess.

Originally posted by Astner
Should've made it Prime vs Phoenix to get GS into this mess.

Lol seriously. Superman is beast asf. Anyone know the issue and number? DC is literally saying that no matter how powerful or cutthroat Batman can possibly become, he'd never beat Superman.

Originally posted by Stoic
Lol seriously. Superman is beast asf. Anyone know the issue and number?
Dark Nights: Death Metal: The Secret Origin #1.

I see you're a man of culture Astner.

I prefer my comics with commentary.

You're sending people to a place with power levels over 9000.

sbp rapestomps

Originally posted by Astner
Dark Nights: Death Metal: The Secret Origin #1.

4chan ewwww

Carver and Alberta under damage control

I say multi-eternity would be more of a fair fight

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Carver and Alberta under damage control

Lol... I didnt even say anything in this thread.

SBP is now in Eternity's league? WTF is going on over at DC? Jeezus.

Originally posted by zopzop
SBP is now in Eternity's league? WTF is going on over at DC? Jeezus.

read this baby, you would love it

he just beat darkest knight and destroyed his multiverse

https://readcomicsonline.ru/comic/dark-nights-death-metal-the-secret-origin-2020/1

Unless Prime has an massive amp.......this is the biggest spite thread yet.

awareness...not even once....

this is spite against eternity at this point

A Clark Kent punch doesn't care what your powers are supposed to be.

Originally posted by MrMind
read this baby, you would love it

he just beat darkest knight and destroyed his multiverse

https://readcomicsonline.ru/comic/dark-nights-death-metal-the-secret-origin-2020/1

Yeah he beat the BWL, which resulted in the destruction of the twisted multiverse that he created. Superboy Prime didn't actually physically destroy that multiverse though. It ceased to exist after he was defeated. To keep things honest instead of assuming too much, someone has prove that the BWL's power levels were greater than Eternity's power level. From what I've read though, the BWL was crazy powerful.

However, the BWL defeated a weakening, and weakened Perpetua that we have no idea how to rate her in terms of power levels. Hopefully we can keep things honest with that being the case. After all, Cosmic King Thor defeated a being much like Perpetua in terms of unquantified power levels.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yeah he beat the BWL, which resulted in the destruction of the twisted multiverse that he created. Superboy Prime didn't actually physically destroy that multiverse though. It ceased to exist after he was defeated. To keep things honest instead of assuming too much, someone has prove that the BWL's power levels were greater than Eternity's power level. From what I've read though, the BWL was crazy powerful.

However, the BWL defeated a weakening, and weakened Perpetua that we have no idea how to rate her in terms of power levels. Hopefully we can keep things honest with that being the case. After all, Cosmic King Thor defeated a being much like Perpetua in terms of unquantified power levels. It wasnt just defeating him that did that. And it didn't just cease to exist after his defeat. Nearly half the shots he landed they were showing the shockwaves blowing the multiverse apart and his shots were ground zero.

The final was just the biggest.

Originally posted by Juntai
It wasnt just defeating him that did that. And it didn't just cease to exist after his defeat. Nearly half the shots he landed they were showing the shockwaves blowing the multiverse apart and his shots were ground zero.

The final was just the biggest.

Oh god you're one of them too aren't you? seeing abhi and diesl posts everyday is hell enough, now theres another one too? save me the trouble and post less PLEASE hate seeing you dudes post on here

Originally posted by Juntai
It wasnt just defeating him that did that. And it didn't just cease to exist after his defeat. Nearly half the shots he landed they were showing the shockwaves blowing the multiverse apart and his shots were ground zero.

The final was just the biggest.
Each punch was almost retcon punches

There will probably be more to it when the final issue drops, because I don't believe he's defeated, but what we saw was a wild show of power.

Prime seems to have the unique ability to disrupt reality for some reason, but I'm not sure how far this translates to beating Eternity. It has no reason to engage in a fist fight. It could blink and trap him in an infinite loop of Red Suns, depower him etc.

Regarding the most recent fight: The BWL was cut off from channelling any more power from the Multiverse by Earth's heroes, and subsequently was nearly spent fighting Perpetua. He was still powerful enough to create 52 Earth's but admitted his power was limited. His entire power level is a big question mark until we get more information in the next issue but comparing him to his peak and translating that to vs. Eternity is not valid at this particular point. We'll see in #7.

Originally posted by Juntai
A Clark Kent punch doesn't care what your powers are supposed to be. It reminds me of when Kal-El/Kal-L also punched each other hard enough to shatter/alter space/time. Did you see Superman punching Darkseid so hard the motherbox teleported him away due to the danger? lol

People always talk about Superman's fairly limited powerset for a character in his class.

But it doesn't mean anything when he can run through whatever you try and punch you out, regardless of what class of character you are. lol.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Prime seems to have the unique ability to disrupt reality for some reason, but I'm not sure how far this translates to beating Eternity. It has no reason to engage in a fist fight. It could blink and trap him in an infinite loop of Red Suns, depower him etc.

Regarding the most recent fight: The BWL was cut off from channelling any more power from the Multiverse by Earth's heroes, and subsequently was nearly spent fighting Perpetua. He was still powerful enough to create 52 Earth's but admitted his power was limited. His entire power level is a big question mark until we get more information in the next issue but comparing him to his peak and translating that to vs. Eternity is not valid at this particular point. We'll see in #7.


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Prime seems to have the unique ability to disrupt reality for some reason, but I'm not sure how far this translates to beating Eternity. It has no reason to engage in a fist fight. It could blink and trap him in an infinite loop of Red Suns, depower him etc.

Regarding the most recent fight: The BWL was cut off from channelling any more power from the Multiverse by Earth's heroes, and subsequently was nearly spent fighting Perpetua. He was still powerful enough to create 52 Earth's but admitted his power was limited. His entire power level is a big question mark until we get more information in the next issue but comparing him to his peak and translating that to vs. Eternity is not valid at this particular point. We'll see in #7.
Darkest Knight had regained his full power before this fight. Stop lying.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Darkest Knight had regained his full power before this fight. Stop lying.

The same BWL who was equal to a weakened Perpetua that needed to be fueled by Crisis Energy to even destroy universes one at a time.

https://i.postimg.cc/62J0CgC4/7728946-8294471861-eswdlc-YPMVGNVFo-JRb-Ujf10-QTZd-Zth-H7-Qef-M9-MWCk-IGqku-P3h-EPV8m1xt-Otq0s-VMBXh-Vq4-QLt-J0ko-M0.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/wR9QGNf6/7728947-2317863908-ut-Jwukc-M17-Nu3-Vr8-DVK63tftunr-DSUqc-Fv-PGe-KFUr-GCd-R6555v-SUk-T0-Iy67u-J6-SSYeo-Q-8u-Mi-4t-Wjg-O6.jpg

That's laughable by Marvel standards.

sbp oneshots jobbernity

Any scans of these retcon punches that people keep referring to?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Any scans of these retcon punches that people keep referring to?

https://readcomicsonline.ru/comic/dark-nights-death-metal-the-secret-origin-2020/1

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Any scans of these retcon punches that people keep referring to?

Diesl is an idiot, don't take anything he say seriously. Marvel is not DC. Their universes do not have the same mechanics for these types of situations.

Other than the Incursions, I'm having trouble remembering when the Multiverse was threatened to say it would be "shattered". Like would it just have a hole it like the time Eternity got a "tumor" that Future Phoenix healed; would there even be a discernable difference like when the First Firmament came. Would it unravel, spilling universes like entrails since Marvel's Multiverse is a living thing.
Things like that

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I'm familiar with Doomsday Clock. Im just asking what these "retcon punches" are so i can make sure I know your perspective before i say anything. ok.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Any scans of these retcon punches that people keep referring to?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Not true at all, When SBP using his retcon punch for the first time is before the infinite crisis
https://ibb.co/4tFYY9v
And later, SBP did change the reality again in Teen Titans
https://imgur.com/d8iNkUK
https://imgur.com/jpilA3Q
https://imgur.com/oKjAfm4


Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Prime shattered/changed continuity during Infinite Crisis

And in this issue stated he shattered reality before
https://postlmg.cc/G8dD08jV

The source wall explosion tanking feat also comes from this issue
Prime mentioned the collapsing of the source wall and that ultimately freed him
https://ibb.co/tQbD1g9
Plus the latest Death Metal:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#17

The scans you posted, doesn't it have something to do with the room hes in versus him just punching the air ret retcon punching things?

Originally posted by carver9
The scans you posted, doesn't it have something to do with the room hes in versus him just punching the air ret retcon punching things? Lol, SBP punches Darkest Knight and the same effect shows
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#19
Same case when he punches a corrupted version of Superman whose history gets retconned/changed by his punches
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#17
So put it in simple:No, His retcon punches/reality warping ability doesn't require any specific environments. All he needs to do is punching

Originally posted by carver9
The scans you posted, doesn't it have something to do with the room hes in versus him just punching the air ret retcon punching things?
Superboy didn't punch the air, he punched the crystal walls surrounding his prison.

https://i.imgur.com/JmcUD2Zm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/TT2XesEm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/0DGeRKlm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/7n3doBcm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/zVt92zam.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/PKbUUwXm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/HzU1kLGm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/TXI3zZSm.jpg

SBP does seem to need a 'target' of sorts to effect those kind of changes -- specifically one that is connected to the multiverse in some esoteric way. In the first instance the target was the walls of the Limbo realm, in the second instance the target was the wall/border of the Phantom Zone, in the third instance the target was the Darkest Night and/or his lackeys.

To date, Prime hasn't just thrown his fists into thin air and altered the multiverse.


That said, Prime did somehow did manage to bust from the 3rd dimension into the 5th dimension to kidnap Mxy during Countdown:
https://ibb.co/Brsv1xt
...But he also had the Guardian amp at the time, and that action didn't have any adverse effects on the rest of creation.

Yeah, To be clarified. SBP has to hit something to change reality. But I don't see this is a problem when he is in a forum fight. I mean he has opponents/targets to punch. And in the latest Death Metal, SBP changed a corrupted Superman's history just by punching him.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#17

It would probably go like this.

https://ibb.co/nD1ZsN6

Oof.

Looks like Eternity, in character, prefers to throw down in fisticuffs.

Not a good tactic against SBP.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, SBP punches Darkest Knight and the same effect shows
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#19
Same case when he punches a corrupted version of Superman whose history gets retconned/changed by his punches
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#17
So put it in simple:No, His retcon punches/reality warping ability doesn't require any specific environments. All he needs to do is punching

I dont think Superboy Prime truly fought Darkest Knight. Too much context and the other showing you posted had him in a room punching things that altered reality. He tried to get old Superman to do the same thing so that his wife could come back.

What exactly is SP fighting? An M-Body?

https://ibb.co/nD1ZsN6

Also, Has SBP done any more than Genis-vell?

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think Superboy Prime truly fought Darkest Knight. Too much context and the other showing you posted had him in a room punching things that altered reality. He tried to get old Superman to do the same thing so that his wife could come back. Except when earth-2 Superman( Kal-L) punching, even breaking the crystal walls that SBP punched. But still didn't have same effect like SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-1?id=39427#26
And Alexander even stated SBP as his architect of reality, Not Kal-L
So your argument is moot since Alexander never hopes Kal-L do the same thing that SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-Secret-Files-2006/Full?id=107443#35
Also even lets assume that the fight between SBP and Darkest knight was some illusion that created by DN. Before fighting DN, SBP still managed to change a history of corrupted Superman by punching him.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#17

qwerty been schooling carver left and right this year

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except when earth-2 Superman( Kal-L) punching, even breaking the crystal walls that SBP punched. But still didn't have same effect like SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-1?id=39427#26
And Alexander even stated SBP as his architect of reality, Not Kal-L
So your argument is moot since Alexander never hopes Kal-L do the same thing that SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-Secret-Files-2006/Full?id=107443#35
Also even lets assume that the fight between SBP and Darkest knight was some illusion that created by DN. Before fighting DN, SBP still managed to change a history of corrupted Superman by punching him.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#17

What is that Superboy Prime is looking at on the wall? I see images. What are those images on the wall?

Originally posted by carver9
What is that Superboy Prime is looking at on the wall? I see images. What are those images on the wall? It was a pocket dimension that they can see present and past events.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
What are Batman Who Laughs feats? I've been told repeatedly that we don't share feats. which feats of Dr. Manhattan did I give to TBWLs?

Originally posted by Diesldude
which feats of Dr. Manhattan did I give to TBWLs?

It appeared that you refered someone to Manhattan's Doomsday Clock performance to judge Bats by.

Anyhow, what are Bats Who Laughs feats? Not saying that he doesn't have any. Just asking what they are.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
It was a pocket dimension that they can see present and past events.

Why did Prime punch it?

Originally posted by carver9
Why did Prime punch it?
Read the comic and see for yourself.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Read the comic and see for yourself.

So the wall had something to do with altering reality.

Originally posted by carver9
So the wall had something to do with altering reality. Nope

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Nope

Lol... it did though

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... it did though It didn't. And I have already proven that.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except when earth-2 Superman( Kal-L) punching, even breaking the crystal walls that SBP punched. But still didn't have same effect like SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-1?id=39427#26
And Alexander even stated SBP as his architect of reality, Not Kal-L
So your argument is moot since Alexander never hopes Kal-L do the same thing that SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-Secret-Files-2006/Full?id=107443#35
Also even lets assume that the fight between SBP and Darkest knight was some illusion that created by DN. Before fighting DN, SBP still managed to change a history of corrupted Superman by punching him.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#17
Kal-L punched the same walls but didn't have the same effect like SBP did. And SBP had performed this ability in multiple different occasions like I posted before. So, the walls had nothing to do with his reality-warping ability
But keep trolling if you wish. Since Ive already made and proven my points pretty clear. Your ignorance isnt my problem

That ending scene seemed seemed more like he died and that was like his personal heaven to me. Maybe we'll know more soon, but I doubt it. It feels like they're putting that toy away again for a while.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
So you are using DM's performance for Bats.

I'm not going to low-ball Perpetua as you all did the Beyonders. Your second paragraph has actually become the norm here. Fanboy hoopla along with one sided bashing. ah no, prior to doomsday clock, Manhattan was treated as captain atom lite below silver surfer. Doomsday clock changed that.

Without it, If people said that TBWLs has Dr. Manhattans powers they would say ah so captain atom lite. This is why o wanted GS to check into that, not because of feat sharing. If that was the case I would have provided scans of his feats I did not. Not sure why you thought it was a case of feat sharing.

So You admit that I was right you were going to lowball a perpetua. Show me where I lowballed the beyonders. Lol. I bet that is more of your incorrect assumptions of misreading peoples posts like you did here.

It's not the first time he ended up there either. He ended up back there at the end of Legion of 3 Worlds too.

Originally posted by zopzop
SBP is now in Eternity's league? WTF is going on over at DC? Jeezus.

For Superman, this is Tuesday.

Originally posted by Juntai
It's not the first time he ended up there either. He ended up back there at the end of Legion of 3 Worlds too.

Trolling the internet.

He must have retcon punched himself.

Originally posted by Diesldude
ah no, prior to doomsday clock, Manhattan was treated as captain atom lite below silver surfer. Doomsday clock changed that.

Without it, If people said that TBWLs has Dr. Manhattans powers they would say ah so captain atom lite. This is why o wanted GS to check into that, not because of feat sharing. If that was the case I would have provided scans of his feats I did not. Not sure why you thought it was a case of feat sharing.

So You admit that I was right you were going to lowball a perpetua. Show me where I lowballed the beyonders. Lol. I bet that is more of your incorrect assumptions of misreading peoples posts like you did here.

You said that I am going to low-ball Perpetua, and I said that I am not. What admission are you talking about? And that's an interesting backpedal for your feat sharing.

As a group, your fellow DC extremists lowballed the Beyonders. So do you give Starbrand a multiversal feat?

Galen clearly shows that Prime punches solid objects with special connections with reality. Plus, Eternity is not a physical being.

And reality has been warped within Eternity over and over. How is that a kiss?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except when earth-2 Superman( Kal-L) punching, even breaking the crystal walls that SBP punched. But still didn't have same effect like SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-1?id=39427#26
And Alexander even stated SBP as his architect of reality, Not Kal-L
So your argument is moot since Alexander never hopes Kal-L do the same thing that SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-Secret-Files-2006/Full?id=107443#35
Also even lets assume that the fight between SBP and Darkest knight was some illusion that created by DN. Before fighting DN, SBP still managed to change a history of corrupted Superman by punching him.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#17

Qwerty please and i mean PLEASE work on the english language FFS, I never know wtf you be talking about most of the times, and his current punch didn't do that It destroyed The 52 worlds. The worlds reverted BACK to its original state that changed due to the loss of connection a hold BWL had on the corrupted world hence the dark multiverse. Prime SEVERED that connection

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah, To be clarified. SBP has to hit something to change reality. But I don't see this is a problem when he is in a forum fight. I mean he has opponents/targets to punch. And in the latest Death Metal, SBP changed a corrupted Superman's history just by punching him.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#17

I think the key point of Galans post that seems to be getting missed is that its not as if SBP has some retcon punch ability, its that the circumstances were conducive to his punches being able to affect the changes. It wasnt a retcon ability of his, it was either the location he was in or the being he was hitting.

For example in the Infinite Crisis example, SBP was in a location that was a focal point/keystone to DC multidimensional structure, so his powerful (but standard) hits to this structure affected reality. So it was a result of location, not an innate ability SBP has been shown to have.

In the example of SBP fighting the Darkest Knight, the DKs power was actively maintaining changes to reality, so fighting DK disrupted his ability inadvertently. Theres no conclusive evidence be it visually or through written statement or caption that supports the notion of a "retcon punch". So without such evidence its not an ability that can be bandied around and referred to here as an established and officially confirmed part of SBP's powerset at this point.

So lets wait and see what the rest of the event has in store.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I think the key point of Galans post that seems to be getting missed is that its not as if SBP has some retcon punch ability, its that the circumstances were conducive to his punches being able to affect the changes. It wasnt a retcon ability of his, it was either the location he was in or the being he was hitting.

For example in the Infinite Crisis example, SBP was in a location that was a focal point/keystone to DC multidimensional structure, so his powerful (but standard) hits to this structure affected reality. So it was a result of location, not an innate ability SBP has been shown to have.

In the example of SBP fighting the Darkest Knight, the DKs power was actively maintaining changes to reality, so fighting DK disrupted his ability inadvertently. Theres no conclusive evidence be it visually or through written statement or caption that supports the notion of a "retcon punch". So without such evidence its not an ability that can be bandied around and referred to here as an established and officially confirmed part of SBP's powerset at this point.

So lets wait and see what the rest of the event has in store.

Nice post.

Furthermore didnt DK just inhabit the body of an alternate reality Dr Manhattan? So who is to say that said version had the exact same capabilities as the one we're familiar with?

And even if it was the exact same Dr Manhattan, merely possessing his body and powers doesn't make Dr Manhattans feats and showings attributable to DK.

We also cant say DK beat Perpetua, therefore SBP can beat Perpetua and anyone below Perpetua.

That's the most basic ABC logic.

Context has to be considered and taken into account. DK was battle weary, he even mentioned a reluctance to divert energy he had dedicated towards his plans to fighting SBP. How do we know if he did?

We could have had battle weary DK, with an unspecified amount of power diverted elsewhere fighting SBP.

On top of that look how DK was fighting SBP. Simple fisticuffs. What high level cosmic does that? It could be a sign of how battle weary he was.

The battle remains a good showing for SBP. But not enough for people to start elevating to ridiculous levels in the cosmic hierarchy.

The main takeaways are:

There's zero evidence of a "retcon punch"

Nothing to show his powerset is anything more than the standard kryptonian one just supercharged

DKs power status at the time is undetermined


Eternity would not fight SBP as incompetently as DK did. It would be through high level energy, time or reality manipulation.

Eternity is overkill for SBP.

Take it down some notches in the hierarchy and then it makes a worthwhile discussion point

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Furthermore didnt DK just inhabit the body of an alternate reality Dr Manhattan? So who is to say that said version had the exact same capabilities as the one we're familiar with?

And even if it was the exact same Dr Manhattan, merely possessing his body and powers doesn't make Dr Manhattans feats and showings attributable to DK.

We also cant say DK beat Perpetua, therefore SBP can beat Perpetua and anyone below Perpetua.

That's the most basic ABC logic.

Context has to be considered and taken into account. DK was battle weary, he even mentioned a reluctance to divert energy he had dedicated towards his plans to fighting SBP. How do we know if he did?

We could have had battle weary DK, with an unspecified amount of power diverted elsewhere fighting SBP.

On top of that look how DK was fighting SBP. Simple fisticuffs. What high level cosmic does that? It could be a sign of how battle weary he was.

The battle remains a good showing for SBP. But not enough for people to start elevating to ridiculous levels in the cosmic hierarchy.

The main takeaways are:

There's zero evidence of a "retcon punch"

Nothing to show his powerset is anything more than the standard kryptonian one just supercharged

DKs power status at the time is undetermined


Eternity would not fight SBP as incompetently as DK did. It would be through high level energy, time or reality manipulation.

Eternity is overkill for SBP.

Take it down some notches in the hierarchy and then it makes a worthwhile discussion point

perpetua is literally the most feared out of the entire omniverse according the snyder, she's the creator of dc main multiverse superstructure including the higher realms that infinitely dwarf the infinite third dimensional multiverse, she created 3 sons by tearing pieces from the overvoid

she resides in the highest dimension of dc reality that is the sixth, a realm beyond space time and source wall itself, a realm beyond imagination that is the fifth dimension. she held all dc main multiverse existence at her palm, a multiverse with infinite timelines and 4 layers of of existence which include the Nil

world forger alone was capable of creating 2 multiverses with his hammer and anvil

darkest knight absorbed the power of dark multiverse doctor manhattan, he was the one with the entire dark multiverse and created his own multiverse too

his fight with perpetua was literally noticed by chronicler from the overvoid, and said their fight was the collapsing the entire multiversal system

sbp himself destroyed three multiverses in death metal by shattering the antenna

eternity can't even lick perpetua's boots

what makes you think he has any chance against prime here

Where was SBP affecting realities of the corrupted Supermen? Be cool to see this scene as it could be ambiguous and down to how you've interpreted it.

Also, Perpetua was fighting DK at the height of his power when he was fresh. The circumstances arent comparable. It was an extended battle so it definitely wasnt easy for him.

Wasnt it after said that battle that he then diverted his power towards shaping reality as per his plans?

So SBP faced a battle weary DK who also had power diverted towards altering reality and theres no evidence that he re-diverted said power to deal with SBP.

As i said before the simple manner in which he engaged SBP as opposed to doing so in a manner befitting of a high level cosmic could be a sign that he was nowhere near full capacity.

Regardless there are too many variables and unknowns for basic ABC logic to be used here.

SBP is not conclusively greater than DK, Perpetua or even Dr Manhattan. This battle was not conclusive evidence of that.

All we know for sure is that he took on a battle weary DK of unknown capacity and won as far as we know. Nice feat, but lets wait to see what the next issue reveals

you say that like eternity can even stand up to darkest knight, doctor manhattan or perpetua

what showing suggest that?

if this is multi-eternity against sbp then sure multi-eternity would win, but it's not multi-eternity here

Originally posted by MrMind
perpetua is literally the most feared out of the entire omniverse according the snyder, she's the creator of dc main multiverse superstructure including the higher realms that infinitely dwarf the infinite third dimensional multiverse, she created 3 sons by tearing pieces from the overvoid

she resides in the highest dimension of dc reality that is the sixth, a realm beyond space time and source wall itself, a realm beyond imagination that is the fifth dimension. she held all dc main multiverse existence at her palm, a multiverse with infinite timelines and 4 layers of of existence which include the Nil

world forger alone was capable of creating 2 multiverses with his hammer and anvil

darkest knight absorbed the power of dark multiverse doctor manhattan, he was the one with the entire dark multiverse and created his own multiverse too

his fight with perpetua was literally noticed by chronicler from the overvoid, and said their fight was the collapsing the entire multiversal system

sbp himself destroyed three multiverses in death metal by shattering the antenna

eternity can't even lick perpetua's boots

what makes you think he has any chance against prime here

Its ABC logic youre using here.

SBP never fought a fresh DK.

Only Perpetua did. Youve just highlighted how massively powerful she is and it clearly wasnt easy for DK as the battle lasted multiple issues.

You have no idea of the capacity of the DK he fought. So its inconclusive.

You cant say DK beat Perpetua, Perpetuas capable of this. SBP beat DK so hes this great. Thats a superficial analysis that just doesnt stand up to scrutiny. You need to put things into perspective and consider context when judging these things.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Where was SBP affecting realities of the corrupted Supermen? Be cool to see this scene as it could be ambiguous and down to how you've interpreted it.

Also, Perpetua was fighting DK at the height of his power when he was fresh. The circumstances arent comparable. It was an extended battle so it definitely wasnt easy for him.

Wasnt it after said that battle that he then diverted his power towards shaping reality as per his plans?

So SBP faced a battle weary DK who also had power diverted towards altering reality and theres no evidence that he re-diverted said power to deal with SBP.

As i said before the simple manner in which he engaged SBP as opposed to doing so in a manner befitting of a high level cosmic could be a sign that he was nowhere near full capacity.

Regardless there are too many variables and unknowns for basic ABC logic to be used here.

SBP is not conclusively greater than DK, Perpetua or even Dr Manhattan. This battle was not conclusive evidence of that.

All we know for sure is that he took on a battle weary DK of unknown capacity and won as far as we know. Nice feat, but lets wait to see what the next issue reveals it was in the comic that they linked you to earlier today. Right before the big fight with DK.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Its ABC logic youre using here.

SBP never fought a fresh DK.

Only Perpetua did. Youve just highlighted how massively powerful she is and it clearly wasnt easy for DK as the battle lasted multiple issues.

You have no idea of the capacity of the DK he fought. So its inconclusive.

You cant say DK beat Perpetua, Perpetuas capable of this. SBP beat DK so hes this great. Thats a superficial analysis that just doesnt stand up to scrutiny. You need to put things into perspective and consider context when judging these things.

not the first time sbp perform multiversal feats in death metal though

in death metal 4 he shattered the antenna and undid three worlds/multiverse (dark multiverse version of infinite crisis, final crisis and crisis on infinite earth)

https://i.ibb.co/z84qxfJ/3-JM6-I8-UK4-OVr0jv-Ow5-X5bx-YLpo5r7rx-Xa-Sh-QUti-DWh-K6-Z8zf-Voq-Xw4nl-dr-Abal-DLv-AJCZB0s-AUp-Ex-G.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/3cD7NCh/ss-St-Paqej-Egyt-N9-JTWYt0-HTps-ANYm7-Rv-YP6-za-TOIMf-Ois-Di-Ejj-Q1-KXr6-ENh-Zz-K84pycmoz-QEj6g2l-Gz.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Srwtc9s/02-PWp-Qjd-RKAsux-Ux8-J-Tde-Pvfn-Kco-E5p-DWPH84-Z14t0-Vzqj-Znt-A4-Hn-FEXQr9cvi-QFD05-Ni-p-YVtyj-CSu9.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/26c8KGs/oe-S9h-KEa2kd-B6gb0w-MDe-UV8-Dsb81-LIHg-Ipkf-JAXsb-C53-XUo73h-CXKVMLY9-JDgb-Mza-OXR2-GB1uc-NYIHa-Xr.jpg

Originally posted by MrMind
not the first time sbp perform multiversal feats in death metal though

in death metal 4 he shattered the antenna and undid three worlds/multiverse (dark multiverse version of infinite crisis, final crisis and crisis on infinite earth)

https://i.ibb.co/z84qxfJ/3-JM6-I8-UK4-OVr0jv-Ow5-X5bx-YLpo5r7rx-Xa-Sh-QUti-DWh-K6-Z8zf-Voq-Xw4nl-dr-Abal-DLv-AJCZB0s-AUp-Ex-G.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/3cD7NCh/ss-St-Paqej-Egyt-N9-JTWYt0-HTps-ANYm7-Rv-YP6-za-TOIMf-Ois-Di-Ejj-Q1-KXr6-ENh-Zz-K84pycmoz-QEj6g2l-Gz.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Srwtc9s/02-PWp-Qjd-RKAsux-Ux8-J-Tde-Pvfn-Kco-E5p-DWPH84-Z14t0-Vzqj-Znt-A4-Hn-FEXQr9cvi-QFD05-Ni-p-YVtyj-CSu9.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/26c8KGs/oe-S9h-KEa2kd-B6gb0w-MDe-UV8-Dsb81-LIHg-Ipkf-JAXsb-C53-XUo73h-CXKVMLY9-JDgb-Mza-OXR2-GB1uc-NYIHa-Xr.jpg

Thats indirectly as a result of destroying a device. He didnt directly destroy anything more than that. Any resultant destruction was a knock on effect that you cant attribute to his ability.

I think we will get a clearer picture after death metal 7

sbp fight with dk could very well be taking place after death metal 7

there's a very high possibility that sbp did destroy dk's dark multiverse (which is only 52)

there's also a chance it was a illusion created by dk to get prime out of sight by giving him earth prime

and dk did confirm he can't beat prime in that issue, so that's worth something to consider

Originally posted by MrMind
I think we will get a clearer picture after death metal 7

sbp fight with dk could very well be taking place after death metal 7

there's a very high possibility that sbp did destroy dk's dark multiverse (which is only 52)

there's also a chance it was a illusion created by dk to get prime out of sight by giving him earth prime

and dk did confirm he can't beat prime in that issue, so that's worth something to consider

Im getting illusion vibes.

I wouldnt be surprised if DK occupied SBP with an illusion/false reality to take him off the board so he can go back to his plans as he already said he didnt want to divert the energy necessary to kill SBP.

Either way at this point we know that DK isnt facing a fresh DK and theres no telling how much capacity he has after defeating Perpetua and trying to create a new multiverse.

Its best to wait till the next issue.

Even if SBP is the only one who can cause the changes in reality, that does discount the need for special for circumstances. I've always seen it as the combination of circumstances and the force of his punches.

Originally posted by Diesldude
it was in the comic that they linked you to earlier today. Right before the big fight with DK.

Theres nothing explicit in that scene that gives much guidance on how that scene is to be interpreted. But based on DKs hinted plan to alter the 52 with a dark shadow version, I would say that killing this dark/evil version of Superman that DK had lined up for that reality, had the knock-on effect of enabling a good archetype to be instated instead.

Thats why SBP then came up with the plan to kill DK as viewing that change made him think killing the source of this corruption to the 52 would allow a similar change on a multiversal scale. So the good/anti-crisis versions of the 52 would be the ones cemented into a permanent new multiverse.

So it was again a knock-on effect of killing that dark archetype, whilst DC reality is in a turbulent/transitional state.

Again, the scene was ambiguous and open to interpretation, so im not going to say my interpretation is fact, yours has just as much value as mine at this stage with the limited info we've been given.
Lets wait and see what happens in the next issue.

Either way, theres zero conclusive evidence of a retcon punch, or innate reality altering ability. Its more the things he's hitting have been connected to the makeup of reality.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The same BWL who was equal to a weakened Perpetua that needed to be fueled by Crisis Energy to even destroy universes one at a time.

https://i.postimg.cc/62J0CgC4/7728946-8294471861-eswdlc-YPMVGNVFo-JRb-Ujf10-QTZd-Zth-H7-Qef-M9-MWCk-IGqku-P3h-EPV8m1xt-Otq0s-VMBXh-Vq4-QLt-J0ko-M0.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/wR9QGNf6/7728947-2317863908-ut-Jwukc-M17-Nu3-Vr8-DVK63tftunr-DSUqc-Fv-PGe-KFUr-GCd-R6555v-SUk-T0-Iy67u-J6-SSYeo-Q-8u-Mi-4t-Wjg-O6.jpg

That's laughable by Marvel standards.
Your tears are delicious. Scans of Eternity destroying a universe?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Even if SBP is the only one who can cause the changes in reality, that does discount the need for special for circumstances. I've always seen it as the combination of circumstances and the force of his punches.

but why are we holding sbp in such a high scrutiny

despite being superior to the likes of in betweener and celestials, eternity himself lack solid feats and hold a losing record in his past cosmic battles, and rightfully view as a jobber

ewing gave multi-eternity the utmost respect when he reborn as the eighth multiverse, and put him in the top of marvel cosmic hierarchy, but his feat does not directly transfer to universal eternity

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Furthermore didnt DK just inhabit the body of an alternate reality Dr Manhattan? So who is to say that said version had the exact same capabilities as the one we're familiar with?

And even if it was the exact same Dr Manhattan, merely possessing his body and powers doesn't make Dr Manhattans feats and showings attributable to DK.

We also cant say DK beat Perpetua, therefore SBP can beat Perpetua and anyone below Perpetua.

That's the most basic ABC logic.

Context has to be considered and taken into account. DK was battle weary, he even mentioned a reluctance to divert energy he had dedicated towards his plans to fighting SBP. How do we know if he did?

We could have had battle weary DK, with an unspecified amount of power diverted elsewhere fighting SBP.

On top of that look how DK was fighting SBP. Simple fisticuffs. What high level cosmic does that? It could be a sign of how battle weary he was.

The battle remains a good showing for SBP. But not enough for people to start elevating to ridiculous levels in the cosmic hierarchy.

The main takeaways are:

There's zero evidence of a "retcon punch"

Nothing to show his powerset is anything more than the standard kryptonian one just supercharged

DKs power status at the time is undetermined


Eternity would not fight SBP as incompetently as DK did. It would be through high level energy, time or reality manipulation.

Eternity is overkill for SBP.

Take it down some notches in the hierarchy and then it makes a worthwhile discussion point

Great post. Yeah, we all know Eternity smacks, its just the dc trolls being insecure about marvel cosmic beings being on a completely different level again

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Furthermore didnt DK just inhabit the body of an alternate reality Dr Manhattan? So who is to say that said version had the exact same capabilities as the one we're familiar with?

And even if it was the exact same Dr Manhattan, merely possessing his body and powers doesn't make Dr Manhattans feats and showings attributable to DK.

We also cant say DK beat Perpetua, therefore SBP can beat Perpetua and anyone below Perpetua.

That's the most basic ABC logic.

Context has to be considered and taken into account. DK was battle weary, he even mentioned a reluctance to divert energy he had dedicated towards his plans to fighting SBP. How do we know if he did?

We could have had battle weary DK, with an unspecified amount of power diverted elsewhere fighting SBP.

On top of that look how DK was fighting SBP. Simple fisticuffs. What high level cosmic does that? It could be a sign of how battle weary he was.

The battle remains a good showing for SBP. But not enough for people to start elevating to ridiculous levels in the cosmic hierarchy.

The main takeaways are:

There's zero evidence of a "retcon punch"

Nothing to show his powerset is anything more than the standard kryptonian one just supercharged

DKs power status at the time is undetermined


Eternity would not fight SBP as incompetently as DK did. It would be through high level energy, time or reality manipulation.

Eternity is overkill for SBP.

Take it down some notches in the hierarchy and then it makes a worthwhile discussion point
LMAO, what an idiotic post filled with outright fanfiction. DK outright said he can't beat Prime and he was at full power after realigning the Earth.

Sorry dear, we don't go on your fanfiction here.

Looks like Connor incapacitated his guy.

https://i.postimg.cc/mkN2Zn0n/9228-D3-B8-78-B6-404-B-977-C-A7718-B62360-F.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
LMAO, what an idiotic post filled with outright fanfiction. DK outright said he can't beat Prime and he was at full power after realigning the Earth.

Sorry dear, we don't go on your fanfiction here.

Why do you always start with the insults? The man is being civil.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Looks like Connor incapacitated his guy.

https://i.postimg.cc/mkN2Zn0n/9228-D3-B8-78-B6-404-B-977-C-A7718-B62360-F.jpg

Not one of the dark Supermen archetypes

As i said, it could simply be him taking out that dark superman. Thats something the others didnt do so it could explain why he was able to bring about a change and the others didnt. My interpretation of that scene and your interpretation both arent conclusive as neither are backed by character speech or comic captions confirming what actually took place. Its an ambiguous scene

Lets see what extra info we get as the story develops

Originally posted by TheHulkster
"Kiss" was supposed to be "loss".

Yes its a Batman who the BMWL put events in place to ensure the accident that made Dr Manhattan who he is, happened to this Bruce Wayne. He then incapacitated him before he got his bearings and then stored the body away until he could make use of it.

Therefore the feats of the DM we know arent attributable to this DM.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Yes its a Batman who the BMWL put events in place to ensure the accident that made Dr Manhattan who he is, happened to this Bruce Wayne. He then incapacitated him before he got his bearings and then stored the body away until he could make use of it.

Therefore the feats of the DM we know arent attributable to this DM.

Thanks for the info.

Originally posted by abhilegend
LMAO, what an idiotic post filled with outright fanfiction. DK outright said he can't beat Prime and he was at full power after realigning the Earth.

Sorry dear, we don't go on your fanfiction here.

Can you show the forum where it states explicitly and conclusively in a dc publication that following his extended battle with Perpetua that BMWLs power was restored to full strength by aligning the planets?

https://imgur.com/He3SJXe

Many thanks

you guys keep saying eternity win, I dont necessary disagree

but where are the feats

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Why do you always start with the insults? The man is being civil.
I'm calling his/her/it post being idiotic. Not the poster.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm calling his/her/it post being idiotic. Not the poster.

Cool.

How about showing the forum why?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Can you show the forum where it states explicitly and conclusively in a dc publication that following his extended battle with Perpetua that BMWLs power was restored to full strength by aligning the planets?

https://imgur.com/He3SJXe

Many thanks

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Cool.

How about showing the forum why?

Made it bigger for ya:

https://i.imgur.com/He3SJXe.jpg

Please do highlight the part Abhi?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Made it bigger for ya:

https://i.imgur.com/He3SJXe.jpg

Please do highlight the part Abhi?
3rd sign of getting your soul devoured, right there.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I think the key point of Galans post that seems to be getting missed is that its not as if SBP has some retcon punch ability, its that the circumstances were conducive to his punches being able to affect the changes. It wasnt a retcon ability of his, it was either the location he was in or the being he was hitting.

For example in the Infinite Crisis example, SBP was in a location that was a focal point/keystone to DC multidimensional structure, so his powerful (but standard) hits to this structure affected reality. So it was a result of location, not an innate ability SBP has been shown to have.

In the example of SBP fighting the Darkest Knight, the DKs power was actively maintaining changes to reality, so fighting DK disrupted his ability inadvertently. Theres no conclusive evidence be it visually or through written statement or caption that supports the notion of a "retcon punch". So without such evidence its not an ability that can be bandied around and referred to here as an established and officially confirmed part of SBP's powerset at this point.

So lets wait and see what the rest of the event has in store.
I mean SBP consistently shows that ability. If it only happened when he was in the pocket dimension then I can see an argument could be made whether it was due to his location that allows him to change continuity.
But it happened multiple times, And none of them specifically mentioned it was due to the circumstances that allow SBP to change history
Also worth noting when others like Kal-L or Doomsday did the same things(breaking the pocket dimension/breaking phantom zone), They didn't affect the reality like SBP did
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except when earth-2 Superman( Kal-L) punching, even breaking the crystal walls that SBP punched. But still didn't have same effect like SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-1?id=39427#26
And Alexander even stated SBP as his architect of reality, Not Kal-L
So your argument is moot since Alexander never hopes Kal-L do the same thing that SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-Secret-Files-2006/Full?id=107443#35
Also even lets assume that the fight between SBP and Darkest knight was some illusion that created by DN. Before fighting DN, SBP still managed to change a history of corrupted Superman by punching him.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#17
Wonder Woman also pointed out SBP once broke the reality with one punch
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal/Issue-4?id=176539#21
So my main point is:There is no evidence that the circumstances were conducive to his punches being able to affect the changes. The comics only constantly explictly show us that SBP can affect reality by his punches through his history. So that should be what the writers want to address imo.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Qwerty please and i mean PLEASE work on the english language FFS, I never know wtf you be talking about most of the times, and his current punch didn't do that It destroyed The 52 worlds. The worlds reverted BACK to its original state that changed due to the loss of connection a hold BWL had on the corrupted world hence the dark multiverse. Prime SEVERED that connection
Are you sure it is my problem? I mean you're the one who got embarrassed becuase of your poor reading skills in this thread
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t673036.html

One question, defeating Batman who laughs couldn't be considered PIS of the highest level? how when he beat mxy?

This is a real reality punch and no one would claim Creel under this circumstance as being able to stomp Eternity.

https://ibb.co/PcjTzYQ
https://ibb.co/FgP6XVb

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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
I mean SBP consistently shows that ability. If it only happened when he was in the pocket dimension then I can see an argument could be made whether it was due to his location that allows him to change continuity.
But it happened multiple times, And none of them specifically mentioned it was due to the circumstances that allow SBP to change history
Also worth noting when others like Kal-L or Doomsday did the same things(breaking the pocket dimension/breaking phantom zone), They didn't affect the reality like SBP did

Wonder Woman also pointed out SBP once broke the reality with one punch
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal/Issue-4?id=176539#21
So my main point is:There is no evidence that the circumstances were conducive to his punches being able to affect the changes. The comics only constantly explictly show us that SBP can affect reality by his punches through his history. So that should be what the writers want to address imo.

Could it be because he hits the wall with greater force?

Is reality broken in his fights with Black Adam, Connor Kent, Sodam Yat, the Green Lanterns, the group of heroes, the two Supermen, etc.?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
No problem bro. When i 1st started debating on here years back i used to do the same thing. I was so convinced that how i viewed what was going on in a comic book scene was what was definitely going on, but then it had to get broken down to me as well. Writer narration via captions or on panel verification from a reputable source in a comic book scene are ways we can say that what's going on in an ambiguous scene is whats officially going on in terms of the company line.

Thats why even i said my interpretation of that scene isnt fact and suggested a wait and see approach. The info just isnt there yet.

But lets see what you have to say tomorrow anyway

Also wanna point out theyre still rolling with Superboy subPrime not being amped by Buttstupid Who Laughs power despite the writer and illustrator playing connect the dots for them

Literally 🙄

https://i.postimg.cc/8FXy1MDt/ayes.jpg

Superboy Prime is indeed a low level reality warper. Why low? Because he's messy at it. He can't see the future, manipulate molecules like Firestorm, or Owen, or create life by waving his hand from side to side. What he does have, is the power to shake up reality with his punches. Once done, reality comes back together, but not necessarily back to the way that it was before the punch happened.

Does this qualify him to be pitted against Eternity? Absolutely. As a matter of fact, he'd probably punch Eternity so hard that he'd knock his dick loose. Eternity has a history of getting his ass handed to him by guys capable of tearing holes in reality, so why not? Exactly. What has Eternity done in combat? His most impressive feats exist in the Official Handbooks. Prime would probably beat his ass worse than the Chaos King did.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Could it be because he hits the wall with greater force?

Is reality broken in his fights with Black Adam, Connor Kent, Sodam Yat, the Green Lanterns, the group of heroes, the two Supermen, etc.?
I mean Kal-L literally breaks it and comes back to main dc universe through his bare hands while SBP(weakened due to lack of sunlight)needs Alexander's energy to break the wall and come to main dc universe
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-Secret-Files-2006/Full?id=107443#43
So Kal-L should be the one who actually hits the wall with greater force, But he didn't perform the same effect like SBP did.
And that actually helps me further prove SBP has the reality-warping ability
But what matters most is we knew he can do that and to date there is no evidence that SBP needs some specific circumstances to do that

Originally posted by abhilegend
Darkest Knight had regained his full power before this fight. Stop lying.

Where does it say this?

Originally posted by Stoic
Superboy Prime is indeed a low level reality warper. Why low? Because he's messy at it. He can't see the future, manipulate molecules like Firestorm, or Owen, or create life by waving his hand from side to side. What he does have, is the power to shake up reality with his punches. Once done, reality comes back together, but not necessarily back to the way that it was before the punch happened.

Does this qualify him to be pitted against Eternity? Absolutely. As a matter of fact, he'd probably punch Eternity so hard that he'd knock his dick loose. Eternity has a history of getting his ass handed to him by guys capable of tearing holes in reality, so why not? Exactly. What has Eternity done in combat? His most impressive feats exist in the Official Handbooks. Prime would probably beat his ass worse than the Chaos King did.
The crazy thing is, there was a scene in Marvel : The End, where Eternity unleashes his full power/fury at Thanos and all it does is destroy a planet or something LOL. Poor Eternity, he looks so awesome but jobs so badly.

Prime certainly has some sort of intrinsic ability that allows him to alter reality(be it advertently or inadvertently) with his punches, IF he strikes a 'nexus' point that is in some way linked to creation. That much, at least, isn't really disputable given his feats... Even Alex Luthor was blown away by Prime's ability to do so:

https://i.imgur.com/xlB4a06.jpg https://i.imgur.com/DUDULym.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uUNB3d8.jpg


It isn't something that just any DC brick can replicate(even if they also have an "S" shield.) The 'ability' is evidently unique to Prime.

Originally posted by zopzop
The crazy thing is, there was a scene in Marvel : The End, where Eternity unleashes his full power/fury at Thanos and all it does is destroy a planet or something LOL. Poor Eternity, he looks so awesome but jobs so badly.

Exactly, I keep asking for Eternity's feats in this thread and I get nothing

you'd think the camp that's so set he can win easily would at least back it up with evidence

What does the Aegis Armor do again?

Aegis armor was olympian armor for Zeus and Athena, such as the Aegis shield and other things, WW bracers were made from the Aegis shield.