Galactus Vs Sundipped Superman & Superman Prime

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HumbleServant
Sundipped Superman with OWAW mindset and Superman Prime with Guardian amp.

GenghisJuan
How well fed is this Galactus? Will we take into account SBP's recent feats?

HumbleServant
Average Galactus. With did SBP do recently?

xJLxKing
Originally posted by HumbleServant
Average Galactus. With did SBP do recently?
Defeated....Batman who laughs with DrManhattans power

GenghisJuan
^

GenghisJuan
"Average Galactus."
Average Galactus (1-2 planets):
-Busted 3 Solar Systems and continued into the Galaxy
-Busted multiple Galaxies vs Tyrant
-Has been treated as an overtime Universe Buster
-Could lifewipe 2 Universes
-Takes on Odin, Mephisto, Agamotto, etc.
I'd say he's in the Multi-Galaxy to Low Universal tier.
Note: Recently an amped Galactus was stomped by a Universe buster, so take that as you will and he could be lower.

OWAW Sundipped Superman:
-Pushed a Planet moving at FTL Speeds
-Briefly survived being attacked by 2 Big Bangs
-Much more powerful than the Superman who took out multiple Probes
I'd say he could be anywhere from Large Planet to Multi-Galaxy+ lmfao.

Superman Prime:
-Retconned realities
-Took on hordes of heroes
-Fought Monarch when he had the Guardian Amp
-Survived a Universal explosion (iirc?)
With these, I'd say he's Multi-Galaxy to Universal.

So... team takes it. With recent feats, SBP soloes easily.

carver9
Galactus stomps

GenghisJuan
Originally posted by carver9
Galactus stomps
Why?

Diesldude
OWAW Superman had a bigger Sundip than the one that Knocked out WF and destroyed his empty Multiverse.

carver9
Originally posted by GenghisJuan
Why?

He operates on a higher level, AND he could drain both of them.

GenghisJuan
Higher via what feats? I listed a bunch of comparisons before.

DarkSaint85
Superman can also drain it right back. He actually has a pretty good track record of doing so.

Diesldude

DarkSaint85
People are now in two minds.

Either SBP is able to drain people (like Darkest Knight) and they want to argue he was amped, or he isn't.

If he is, then Carver's post is all wrong as SBP obviously operates on an even higher level than G.

xJLxKing
Checkmate

Or you can just deny and throw out any logic

Diesldude

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by HumbleServant
Sundipped Superman with OWAW mindset and Superman Prime with Guardian amp.

Galactus stomps.

lawest9
Galactus gets destroyed, Prime alone solo's.

carver9
Originally posted by GenghisJuan
Higher via what feats? I listed a bunch of comparisons before.

Galactus almost destroying reality during a fight. Galaxy shaking showings. He just operates on a higher level.

GenghisJuan
When did he almost destroy reality? Against the Scrier and the Other? I wouldn't say it's consistent tbh. Galaxy shaking isn't very impressive.

carver9
Originally posted by GenghisJuan
When did he almost destroy reality? Against the Scrier and the Other? I wouldn't say it's consistent tbh. Galaxy shaking isn't very impressive.

Wait, what showing here are you using for these 2 to beat Galactus? The Prime recent showing is up on the air. Prime was reading his fight against the BHL from a comic. We don't even know if what was shown is legit, especially with Wonder Woman being the one to defeat him. Explain, please.

lawest9
Originally posted by GenghisJuan
When did he almost destroy reality? Against the Scrier and the Other? I wouldn't say it's consistent tbh. Galaxy shaking isn't very impressive. Yea.......ODIN has done that on a couple of occasions.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
He operates on a higher level, AND he could drain both of them. No he can't. He would be killed or koed before he could blink. Galactus has trouble hitting Surfer when Surfer is not even moving as fast as light. If you disagree then kindly show us Galactus top speed, reaction feats.

GenghisJuan
"Wait, what showing here are you using for these 2 to beat Galactus? The Prime recent showing is up on the air. Prime was reading his fight against the BHL from a comic. We don't even know if what was shown is legit, especially with Wonder Woman being the one to defeat him. Explain, please."

I'll just quote my previous comment:
"Average Galactus (1-2 planets):
-Busted 3 Solar Systems and continued into the Galaxy
-Busted multiple Galaxies vs Tyrant
-Has been treated as an overtime Universe Buster
-Could lifewipe 2 Universes
-Takes on Odin, Mephisto, Agamotto, etc.
I'd say he's in the Multi-Galaxy to Low Universal tier.
Note: Recently an amped Galactus was stomped by a Universe buster, so take that as you will and he could be lower.

OWAW Sundipped Superman:
-Pushed a Planet moving at FTL Speeds
-Briefly survived being attacked by 2 Big Bangs
-Much more powerful than the Superman who took out multiple Probes
I'd say he could be anywhere from Large Planet to Multi-Galaxy+ lmfao.

Superman Prime:
-Retconned realities
-Took on hordes of heroes
-Fought Monarch when he had the Guardian Amp
-Survived a Universal explosion (iirc?)
With these, I'd say he's Multi-Galaxy to Universal.

So... team takes it."

I purposefully didn't use his recent feats.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Defeated....Batman who laughs with DrManhattans power

They make a point to put emphasis on 3 things:
1. his punches revert the dark earths the villains theyre fighting back to "good" Earths
2. When he first hits BWL he see's his ideal Earth
3. He's using BWL's energy against him
He definitely DID NOT defeat Butt**** Who Limps, he just destroyed the 52 bad Earths and reverted back to his good Earth as if he never left for COIE

abhilegend
Originally posted by GenghisJuan
"Average Galactus."
Average Galactus (1-2 planets):
-Busted 3 Solar Systems and continued into the Galaxy

It was just three solar systems.
Just a statement from Thanos with no way to prove it.
Nope.
Nope. Read Annihilation again.

Galactus has never destroyed a galaxy.

thumb up

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
They make a point to put emphasis on 3 things:
1. his punches revert the dark earths the villains theyre fighting back to "good" Earths
2. When he first hits BWL he see's his ideal Earth
3. He's using BWL's energy against him
He definitely DID NOT defeat Butt**** Who Limps, he just destroyed the 52 bad Earths and reverted back to his good Earth as if he never left for COIE
You're adorable troll.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Wait, what showing here are you using for these 2 to beat Galactus? The Prime recent showing is up on the air. Prime was reading his fight against the BHL from a comic. We don't even know if what was shown is legit, especially with Wonder Woman being the one to defeat him. Explain, please.
LMAO

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
You're adorable troll.

You're always welcome to try to refute it, go ahead so i can give you another beatdown laughing out loud I thrive off it

GenghisJuan
Originally posted by abhilegend
It was just three solar systems.
Gotta disagree here:
"And does not slow down"
https://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/Annihilation6-009.jpg
"Swept the Galaxy clean"
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-70ed77577c1da6fbde994654c6ee336c

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just a statement from Thanos with no way to prove it.
Any reason that Thanos is an unreliable narrator?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope.
When he showed up in 60s Thor comics, he was treated as a Universal threat, albeit definitely nowhere near a one-shotter:
"The Universe is still in grave peril"
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11113/111137597/7195554-rco002.jpg
"Can cause the Universe itself to crumble"
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749400140359532584/791862945717813258/b473dd5e49de782f4cf969855fea8e18.png
"While a Universe doth lie at stake"
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CoV4Iz8Rp74/VnpeW4jZLlI/AAAAAAAAPsA/16IqWnAn3Ko/s1600-Ic42/RCO013.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope. Read Annihilation again.
Eh wdym? That it was built up energy and not regular Galactus? I also clarified it's a life-wipe only.

Glad you liked the Superman scaling btw.

abhilegend
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You're always welcome to try to refute it, go ahead so i can give you another beatdown laughing out loud I thrive off it
Why feed trolls?

abhilegend
Originally posted by GenghisJuan
Gotta disagree here:
"And does not slow down"
https://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/Annihilation6-009.jpg
"Swept the Galaxy clean"
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-70ed77577c1da6fbde994654c6ee336c


Originally posted by abhilegend
Myth of Galactus destroying a galaxy based on this scan from Thanos Imperative.

https://i.imgur.com/iHtosHgm.jpg

Galaxy was swept clean of the annihilation wave, not destroyed entirely.

https://i.postimg.cc/fS3cq0h2/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/z33FG4RC/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/5jGqYpwZ/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/mtH3QMjh/image.jpg

You can see the position where Galactus was on the first scan.

Galactus was on the edge of kree galaxy, obviously none of the kree galaxy was destroyed. Because those conquered worlds were ceded to centurions after the war.

https://i.postimg.cc/zb2vQtz5/image.jpg

So, what did Galactus actually destroy? A galaxy? No chance.

Moreover this is the size of kree empire, 1000 worlds.

https://i.postimg.cc/7L8KB78v/image.jpg

Handbook also says Galactus laid waste to star systems, not galaxy.

https://i.postimg.cc/yNm91Vgp/image.jpg

Thanos wasn't there to see the fight, he was just imagining it.

Silver age Galactus doesn't has any feat on that level.

Galactus was akin to throwing a match into gasoline in Annihilation. He certainly wasn't universal.

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You're always welcome to try to refute it, go ahead so i can give you another beatdown laughing out loud I thrive off it

Have a heart. sad

I've already left him a broken man in that IG thread. smokin'

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Have a heart. sad

I've already left him a broken man in that IG thread. smokin'

laughing out loud merry christmas man

https://i.postimg.cc/yJx3YLR2/Second-Apt-Gerenuk-max-1mb.gif

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
laughing out loud merry christmas man

https://i.postimg.cc/yJx3YLR2/Second-Apt-Gerenuk-max-1mb.gif

Thanks bro. Have a good one! big grin

abhilegend
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Have a heart. sad

I've already left him a broken man in that IG thread. smokin' Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
laughing out loud merry christmas man

https://i.postimg.cc/yJx3YLR2/Second-Apt-Gerenuk-max-1mb.gif Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thanks bro. Have a good one! big grin
Aww, how cute.

GenghisJuan
I don't remember saying he busted the whole Galaxy. Here's what I've been saying:
"Busted 3 Solar Systems and continued into the Galaxy"
I said he continued through the Galaxy, not that he destroyed the whole thing^

When I said:
"Gotta disagree here:"
That was referring to:
"It was just three solar systems."
So again, my disagreement was just that it was only 3 Solar Systems, not that it was the entire Galaxy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thanos wasn't there to see the fight, he was just imagining it.
I feel like this is discrediting Thanos' knowledge a lot. Had he only been told stories like here, I'd get it:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749400140359532584/792038217871917086/RCO025.png
But, he saw the full recording of their battle:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749400140359532584/792038401209532446/RCO050_w.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749400140359532584/792038442129162251/RCO051.png

Originally posted by abhilegend
Silver age Galactus doesn't has any feat on that level.
3 things:
1. He doesn't need to specifically, because Marvel never rebooted and he's the same Galactus.
2. If it's stated so many times, I have a feeling it's legit.
3. Is it just me or is this moving the goalpost a bit? Here's my original claim:

"-Has been treated as an overtime Universe Buster"
And your response was "Nope."
So... whether or not he had feats to back it up at the time, he was still treated as such, which you denied before.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus was akin to throwing a match into gasoline in Annihilation. He certainly wasn't universal.
Fair enough, I'll agree here.

abhilegend
Originally posted by GenghisJuan
I don't remember saying he busted the whole Galaxy. Here's what I've been saying:
"Busted 3 Solar Systems and continued into the Galaxy"
I said he continued through the Galaxy, not that he destroyed the whole thing^

When I said:
"Gotta disagree here:"
That was referring to:
"It was just three solar systems."
So again, my disagreement was just that it was only 3 Solar Systems, not that it was the entire Galaxy.

Good.




The recording never shows galaxies being destroyed. It was purely conjecture from Thanos.




Even modern Galactus has never destroyed a universe.



For him to be considered a universe buster, he has to destroy a universe. He hasn't. He hasn't even destroyed a galaxy on panel or otherwise.


Good.

GenghisJuan
Originally posted by abhilegend
The recording never shows galaxies being destroyed. It was purely conjecture from Thanos.
You said he's an unreliable narrator because he hadn't seen the fight. However, as I showed, he saw its recording. So, again, why is he unreliable?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even modern Galactus has never destroyed a universe.

For him to be considered a universe buster, he has to destroy a universe. He hasn't. He hasn't even destroyed a galaxy on panel or otherwise.
I don't think Galactus is a Universe buster.
I said he's a Universal Threat-- someone that destroys Universes over time. Low Universal was a bit high, I admit, but it was supposed to be a high end.

Also, this is just from memory, but didn't he destroy a Universe while mind-controlled or something? Anyways, it's late asf for me, so I'll respond again tomorrow.

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