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Knull

I'd like to believe that Knull is at least 2-3 tiers of implied power below the Phoenix Force, and I feel confident in my generosity. However, you can never tell, due to the lack of combat feats for the Phoenix Force.

Originally posted by Stoic
I'd like to believe that Knull is at least 2-3 tiers of implied power below the Phoenix Force, and I feel confident in my generosity. However, you can never tell, due to the lack of combat feats for the Phoenix Force.

Future Logan with the full Phoenix Force struggled against old Skyfather Odinson.


Eventually beat him down, but the implied power level was only slightly above high Skyfather.

Cyclops with 1/5 of the PF stopped Thor's full hammer strike (all of Thor's might) with a casual finger.

That showed, at best, 1/5 PF > 10 times Thor physically and therefore PF > 50 times Thor physically.

I do believe that Knull < 20x Thor physically.

Originally posted by cdtm
Future Logan with the full Phoenix Force struggled against old Skyfather Odinson.


Eventually beat him down, but the implied power level was only slightly above high Skyfather.

where was this...?

Originally posted by cdtm
Future Logan with the full Phoenix Force struggled against old Skyfather Odinson.


Eventually beat him down, but the implied power level was only slightly above high Skyfather.

That's a host, not the same thing, and Old man Thor is the most powerful Marvel Sky Father.

Originally posted by h1a8
Cyclops with 1/5 of the PF stopped Thor's full hammer strike (all of Thor's might) with a casual finger.

That showed, at best, 1/5 PF > 10 times Thor physically and therefore PF > 50 times Thor physically.

I do believe that Knull < 20x Thor physically.

Old man Thor becomes a lot more powerful in the future.

lol those numbers....

Originally posted by h1a8
Cyclops with 1/5 of the PF stopped Thor's full hammer strike (all of Thor's might) with a casual finger.

That showed, at best, 1/5 PF > 10 times Thor physically and therefore PF > 50 times Thor physically.

I do believe that Knull < 20x Thor physically.
He's also ko'd the entirety of the Phx force. Sometimes numbers are thrown out the window.

Originally posted by leonidas
where was this...?
The fight was inconclusive. OMP had OKT on the ropes, but the last page of the fight ended with OKT blasting OMP with lightning.

http://i.imgur.com/7IOIoSOm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/FihgZFLm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/OAMGvafm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/uJ8aRdtm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/gQhUbi9m.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/xi35bIEm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/KFTFxdRm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/2mU17nim.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/TLYEIHJm.jpg

Later we get an explanation from OMP that the Phx force suddenly did not want to go on with trying to kill OKT.

where's that from?

Thor #5? #6? Something like that.

Yeah. 2018

Originally posted by leonidas
lol those numbers....

How powerful is a character over a weaker character if he stops the full might of the weaker character with a casual finger?

More than 5x?
More than 10x?
More than 20x?
More than 100x?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He's also ko'd the entirety of the Phx force. Sometimes numbers are thrown out the window.


The fight was inconclusive. OMP had OKT on the ropes, but the last page of the fight ended with OKT blasting OMP with lightning.

http://i.imgur.com/7IOIoSOm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/FihgZFLm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/OAMGvafm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/uJ8aRdtm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/gQhUbi9m.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/xi35bIEm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/KFTFxdRm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/2mU17nim.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/TLYEIHJm.jpg

Later we get an explanation from OMP that the Phx force suddenly did not want to go on with trying to kill OKT.

Scans where Thor Koed A HOST with the full PF?
I call BS.

The Phoenix Force in a good fight.

Originally posted by h1a8
Scans where Thor Koed A HOST with the full PF?
I call BS.

Quotes where i said Phnx w/host ko'd.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He's also ko'd the entirety of the Phx force. Sometimes numbers are thrown out the window.

Mr. Mind, is this a Phoenix host, or the entire Phoenix Force? There is a difference. If it's a host, Knull wins.

Not fully familiar with all PF showings without host, but I gather it was still very formidable.

The Phoenix Force. Going by on panel showings Knull is a skyfather level being at best whose opposite is the Enigma Force/Captain Universe.


https://imgur.com/0SsOrjJ

https://imgur.com/HA4dDnf

https://imgur.com/szFPRGC

https://imgur.com/WEYuHz4


Powerful, but way below the peaks of the likes of the Abstracts and the Phoenix Force.


It was specified that Knull isnt a fundamental force, he didnt create and doesnt embody the darkness, it preceded him, hes just an ancient being that learned to wield and shape it. Thats as opposed to the Abstract Oblivion who embodies the void/darkness. A pecking order has been established.