Exodus vs Doctor Polaris

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MrMind
let's get ittt

leonidas
Unless dr p has some Uber showings to say otherwise he gets his brain fried in a hurry.

Glorificus
Exodus easily.

MrMind
Originally posted by leonidas
Unless dr p has some Uber showings to say otherwise he gets his brain fried in a hurry.

well...there's maxima,

took an entire team consist of power girl, maxima, aquaman, dolphin, koryak, tsunami to take down doctor p

(scans from phildo's secret stash, aquaman v5 41)

https://i.ibb.co/DQPvYbS/92pv0-Ch-Wuek-X5a-Jtr-ANky-Xz-ZQSe-Qb-Mqm-RA9-N-p-t171-Ai7-Qy-DNi7-Maxqq-L2v5hk-Zy-Cbmih-ANZ2-s1600.jpg

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leonidas
but doesn't that show he CAN be taken out by tp?

MrMind
yes, you were asking for instance of him facing tp

I'm simply showing you the instance

I'm not taking side on this thread

Senor Cage
DP was just owing a few GL's. He takes this.

leonidas

Senor Cage
Exodus better crush DP quick, cause DP has too much raw power

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Philosophía
Originally posted by leonidas
but doesn't that show he CAN be taken out by tp? Maxima couldn't do that until Polaris overextended himself to drop his shield, get in his face and mess with his head.

leonidas
his standard shields block tp? then i guess it's quick draw. i assume this is a 'confident' exodus? if he can't get into his head, not sure how this would go. exodus's shields are uber as well so not sure what polaris would do to get through them. i know joesph beat exodus once, but exodus has this thing with mags--not sure he was fighting his best there since he basically worshipped mags. i also don't think polaris is magneto. wonder if he could psi drain polaris through his shield. this is a really close fight imo.

Philosophía
They seem to. Without his shield both Aquaman and Maxima have affected him by exploiting his split personality.

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Philosophía
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Maxima needed to get eye-to-eye with him and couldn't hold him for long even without, so that speaks quite a bit, imo.

Magneto has also beaten Exodus btw.

Galan007
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If Max could have TP'd him before that, she logically would have.

leonidas
maybe, but her tp powers aren't always shown consistently. seems like arthur would have taken him out in the initial meeting had he not been interfered with and he was holding back, not even trying to control him. we def saw him block max's psionic blast but that's not the same as tp. when arthur tried to get in his head again, polaris squeezed him to break the attempt off. he certainly doesn't appear to want to face arthur again, or his tp, and exodus is a far cry above arthur in skill and power. i'm not convinced from that showing that his shields would prevent a full on tp assault--not a psionic blast, but an intrusion. it's odd--from that confrontation, it appears aquaman's tp>max's. he didn't need eye contact to be threat, but like i said, max got a little of the silver surfer treatment in the team books, so not shocking. it also looks like they wanted to highlight aquaman's growing tp abilities there.

how has polaris fared against jonn in their meetings? that might be another good place to get an idea.

Stoic
How well would Magneto do against Exodus? Is TP the only option?

leonidas
like phil said mags has beaten him, but exodus feeds off things like faith, and if his mind isn't really into it, he isn't as tough. he's always looked up to mags, so to me it's not hard to believe mags beat him. COULD exodus beat him? not sure, but he has a history, even without shields or his helmet, of being highly resistant to even the most powerful psi's so i don't think the comparison really translates all that well.

exodus is also an uber tk user and highly skilled with his psi powers. he might be able to turn himself invisible and get close enough to polaris. he has some options for sure, but the shields complicate things.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Galan007
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If Max could have TP'd him before that, she logically would have. thumb up

The fact that it took Maxima/PG/Aquaman + the rest while simultaneously lifting Poseidonis to get down his shield and only then use TP tells you everything.

Unless Exodus manages to quickdraw him , he would get shitstomped, tbh. Polaris is much more powerful and fights mid/high heralds regularly.

MrMind
great debating skill aside, there's a reason Phil could use Dr Polaris in tournament beating the likes of Supreme, Loki, Stardust

leonidas
phil is solid in a debate, no doubt, though i disagree with him here but if he wants to rep polaris in a bz against superman (lol), loki or sd, i'd be down for that. sd would be the toughest because of ltd showings though. hell, i'd rep exodus against polaris. thumb up

MrMind
Oh I was just talking about a tournament couple months ago that he won,

pretty sure there's no point using doctor polaris again, after two matches all polaris feats are over explored, he doesn't have too many appearances to begin with

leonidas

Senor Cage
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