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Philosophía
A new season approaches and with that, a new tourney!

In preparation, I've made a thread in which your suggestions can be added here on what it could be.

Which characters? From where? How many? Merged? Randomized? Prep? No Prep? etc.

https://pm1.narvii.com/6538/891cf5e56d3262255a0fa42226814dc6ecee2329_hq.jpg

Make it creative, make it fun and make it as new as you can!

DarkSaint85
I have two suggestions.

1. Pure bricks. No energy blasts, no TP, nothing fancy. Just h2h, brawling.

2. 1v X, where X is the number of remaining participants. We draft to see who gets to be the '1', then that 1 gets assigned a character from a pool of 'Teambusters', drawn across the tiers (your Doomsdays, Dooms, Sinisters, Hulks, Desperos etc).

Then the remaining participants get assigned a character drawn from the tier below - so if Damborg (as an example) gets Sinister, a Low Herald, we get the High Meta pool.

Philosophía
We'd need to make a list of team-busters . And we need to differentiate between "people who have fought teams" and "people who fight teams".

As in, Superboy has fought against the Teen Titans, but he shouldn't really be classified as a 'team busters' since that's not really what he does usually.

Magneto on the other hand always fights teams, essentially. As does essentially any X-Men villain, Avengers villain, JLA villain etc. Black Adam would also fit.

Galan007
Sentry vs. Bill. thumb up

Philosophía
laughing out loud

If this thread gets derailed you get a temp-ban! Though tbh it's hard for ghosts to derail threads.

beatboks
Which characters?
Let say high meta to mid herald

From where?
To make it more interesting purely independent. No characters from DC or Marvel.

How many?
Depends on picks 1 only if mid herald 1 low herald plus one high meta or 3 high metas

Merged?
Players choice entirely

Randomized?
Given this already makes it harder to use a character you can find out about quickly not randomised.

Prep? No Prep?
No prep

beatboks
Actually rethinking we could make it enhanced human to low meta same breakdown.

That would give you your guys like the Shadow, Grendal, Dr McNinja, Judge Dredd up to guys like Lancelot Strong, the Fly.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by beatboks
Which characters?
Let say high meta to mid herald

From where?
To make it more interesting purely independent. No characters from DC or Marvel.

How many?
Depends on picks 1 only if mid herald 1 low herald plus one high meta or 3 high metas

Merged?
Players choice entirely

Randomized?
Given this already makes it harder to use a character you can find out about quickly not randomised.

Prep? No Prep?
No prep yes

Philosophía
You in parm?

DeadpoolXXX
not trying to derail this thread, but i read it as "spring thomas" at first.

used to be one of my favorite porn girls. sad

Philosophía
Easy mistake to make.

qwertyuiop1998
Never participated in a tourney but every tourney is an enjoyable reading.
Waiting to see this one
https://i.ibb.co/fN520mX/a20a4034970a304eb1642268ddc8a786c8175cf7.jpg

Philosophía
Well, everybody had their first tourney at some point. This can be yours.

Bentley
A tourney where we use exactly the same character as our opponent each round

I'm still salty of getting a brick redrafted into a weaker brick last tourney

Philosophía
Originally posted by Bentley
A tourney where we use exactly the same character as our opponent each round

I'm still salty of getting a brick redrafted into a weaker brick last tourney You've got to admit it was hilarious.

Depending on what we choose, we can go with 1 direct pick and 1 randomized.

leonidas

Philosophía
Should we trim down some of the tiers? Or just flat out make a list of chatacters that we randomize. Some in the higher tiers (mid/low herald) aren't exactly worth 2/3 of the lower ones, imo.

leonidas

Philosophía
My suggestion in the 1 mid vs 2 low or 3 high meta: I think each should pick a mid herald. The opponent has the option of choosing either 1 low herald and the other randomized or 1 high meta and the other 2 randomized.

All of the picks to be blind to the opponent of course. Otherwise the one who picks last makes it tailored to the opponent.

Smurph
Make the teambuster a 1-post tourney where each poster drafts a few characters from a lower tier and gets one shot to prove their strategy.

Meanwhile, Phil (or whoever is OP) gets 1 post to explain why none of these teams can beat the teambuster.

Most convincing post wins.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Smurph
Make the teambuster a 1-post tourney where each poster drafts a few characters from a lower tier and gets one shot to prove their strategy.

Meanwhile, Phil (or whoever is OP) gets 1 post to explain why none of these teams can beat the teambuster.

Most convincing post wins. I think that's too hard to do and it'd just turn out as a respect threads considering the variance in characters and tactics.

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Who wants to participate in this?

I think it will turn out as a variation of this:
- posters get to pick their mid herald OR they get a mid herald randomized
- posters get to pick 1 low herald and get another low herald randomized OR the get two low heralds randomized
- posters get to pick 1 high meta and 2 high metas randomized OR 3 randomized high metas

Whether you get the mid herald, the low heralds or the high metas could also be randomized.

OR

We could pick all of them and no randomization.

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OR

Bricks will plant their feet and slug it out!

Philosophía
For the record my vote is for everything randomized.

DarkSaint85
I want it all randomised. It just makes things more fun - we get treated to watching Colossus types desperately being shoehorned into teams, just like in comics.

beatboks
I would do blind Drafts like in Curry's tournament. All players get a number and draft in order via PM. Bo one knows who an opponent has drafted until the first battle starts, or the draw is made and match ups are made. You can't draft to suit an opponent if you havenno clue what opponents have picked.

That's obviously if not randomised

Damborgson
I'm okay with randomizing ! And I am down of course.

leonidas

Bentley
Bricks punching each other is not varied enough for Leo, bricks getting mind-raped is not fun for Leo, just go ahead and say you hate bricks ahah

DarkSaint85
Leo is still salty about 3D Man...

leonidas

beatboks
I think to match a mid herald it should be a low plus a single high meta only, and 3 high meta.

For example let's say someone has BA or Shazam (mid heralds) if someone else has a merger of Jay Garrick (low herald) with mortal Herc, or Colosseum, or Capt Britain its a decently close match. Greater speed + speed steal with slightly lower strength and durability. Two low heralds is closer but not quite up to matching a high herald. If it was say two of those high metas + Northsatar who has more even speed and no speed steam its also close to even. The combined strength and durability of Cap Britain and mortal Herc or colossus with Northstar speed is a decent match

Philosophía
It depends on the luck.

Somebody could land Cable and be up against Hercules and Aquaman.

That's why randomization is fun, anything can happen. *high fives Bentley*

Damborgson

Philosophía
Ok, so we need a merger between randomized and non-randomized.

But before we can look over that:

Who else wants to participate in this?

We have up until now:
Saint
Beatboks
Bentley?????
Leo
Damborg

DarkSaint85
Or we get to redraft once/twice.

Reason why I like randomised is, I got loads of fun with Xo Manowar, and so did Bentley in reading up on him. I'd never had chosen him, because I'm not a beatboks

Philosophía
thumb up

I'd be ok with redrafting.

We can take out the telepaths if it's such a problem.

We shouldn't really be striving for "perfect match-ups" otherwise it takes out all the fun, imo. Landing random characters is what's great, even if you have an uphill to climb.

Philosophía
So to combine both crowds of "randomize" and "pick" with incentives:

Rules:

1. You will either get:
a). A mid herald that is randomized
b). 2 low heralds that you can CHOOSE to randomize OR pick 1 and that's it
c). 3 high metas that you can CHOOSE to randomize OR pick 2 and that's it OR pick 1 and get the other 2 randomized.

IF you don't like your mid herald, you get to randomize again ONCE
IF you chose to randomize both low-heralds and don't like what you got, you can randomize BOTH again. If you chose one of your heralds, you don't get another randomization.
IF you chose to randomize all 3 high metas and you don't like what you got, you can randomize ALL of them again. IF you chose to pick 2 you're stuck with them, obviously. IF you chose to pick one and the the other 2 randomized, you get to randomize again one of the other two.

I know that's a lot of text, but hopefully it makes sense, and it's the middle ground for those who want randomization and those who do not.

Bentley
That's a lot of text? When did we get a Tik Tok brain?

Philosophía
Tbh I would have said that even if it was just 2 sentences.

beatboks
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or we get to redraft once/twice.

Reason why I like randomised is, I got loads of fun with Xo Manowar, and so did Bentley in reading up on him. I'd never had chosen him, because I'm not a beatboks

How is the choosing of XO Manowar a "bestboks" move (if I'm getting what your implying right) or is it that on many forums I get labelled the guy who picks the obscure unknown character?

beatboks
That mix of randomized and draft seems fair enough to me.

beatboks
There is another way that we could have complete randomisation and allay the fears of those with regards to it.

Everything could be completely randomized but with cancelled/blocked redundancies.

So for example if someone got a total brick randomly there second randomized draft would have all bricks removed from the field to draw from. If someone got a character with a vast array of versatility than only 1 trick ponies would be available as a second randomized draft. Any draft heavy in one powerset type would eliminate others of that powerset from the draft pool for their next draft.

DarkSaint85

Philosophía
Originally posted by beatboks
There is another way that we could have complete randomisation and allay the fears of those with regards to it.

Everything could be completely randomized but with cancelled/blocked redundancies.

So for example if someone got a total brick randomly there second randomized draft would have all bricks removed from the field to draw from. If someone got a character with a vast array of versatility than only 1 trick ponies would be available as a second randomized draft. Any draft heavy in one powerset type would eliminate others of that powerset from the draft pool for their next draft. If they have fears, they should choose the fixed pick. And for those who want to risk getting a limited brick, they can randomize. The only one that is purely randomized with no choice is mid herald -- and even then you can randomize again.

I don't want this to be "everybody gets characters they're happy with" -- including me.

We can remove some characters in general if that's the problem, from mid herald so at least most picks would be solid. But there's a 33% chance any contestant lands mid herald anyway .

DarkSaint85
Just randomise the whole thing and let the chips fall where they lie.

Philosophía
thumb up

I landed OMAC as a mid-herald two tourneys ago. Bentley landed Colossus after redrafting Abomination for the last one.

It was still a shitload of fun. I think it's even more fun to be the big underdog.

Bentley
The main point is to have a sh*t draft and then complain about the judges "not getting" your plan

Philosophía
Originally posted by Bentley
The main point is to have a sh*t draft and then complain about the judges "not getting" your plan thumb up

leonidas
bentley as always cuts through the bs to the truth like a microlaser beam. laughing out loud

my 2 cents on why i don't prefer the randomized method--in the 'old days' tourneys and bz's were conducted to see who the best debaters were. by randomizing, you bring in a great deal of luck. like i said, no amount of debating skill sees prof x lose to ben grim. i see phil working to adjust for this so that's cool and i'll compete whatever the rules, but that's sort of at the heart of why i've never preferred random.

of course someone will argue--the best debater will adjust!1! and there is some merit to that but unlike, say, cards, where if you're dealt a bad hand you can bluff and win, a bad hand here really can't be saved.

randomize it all, and have everyone in though if that's what you guys really want. i'm down for whatever. just need to end some of this winter pandemic boredom.... thumb up

and phil you're playing in this thing too, right, not just hosting?

Philosophía
Yes, I will most likely be in. Depends when we manage to finalize. It'd be nice if there were 8 of us. Right now we're 6, assuming Bentley is in.

I like it because it forces the participant out of his comfort zone with character(s) that are not his pick, has to do research, has to overcome what will certainly be powerset deficiencies, has to try and mesh together characters that may or may not do well together, has to fight uphill battles etc.

Everybody going for their preferred choice based on turn is boring and simple for me, but if everybody wants that, it'd be ok too. "I pick Nate Grey, I pick Green Lantern, I pick Martian Manhunter, let's go!" is essentially just another vs thread and who picks the better power set/power mesh first.

With all the permutations, it's pretty hard to get all bad picks. You can be conservative and play it safe with fixed choices, so that you're not dealt a bad hand. Or you can risk it, and maybe get the advantage. Which is an extra layer that I like!

You'd have to land mid-herald, then your first pick has to be bad enough to redraft and your 2nd pick would also have to be bad. I know I'm not the one to talk considering the latter 2 happened to me, but the chances are really small. Other than that, you can get a fixed low herald of your choosing or two low heralds randomized , or you can get 2 chosen fixed high metas or 3 high metas randomized OR 1 chosen high meta and two randomized.

The chances of one, if any, to have really disastrous picks is pretty small.

leonidas
fair enough. a fun variation i thought of a while back would have us pick characters for EACH OTHER to use. there would be a ltd field of say 16 characters, and you and your opponent blindly pick for each other. i thought about a tiered tourney--first rd we pick streets for each other (or 2 characters and we can amalgamate) then the next rd it's metas then heralds. be fun to be able to use a variety of characters, see how people do at each level.

again, i'm in regardless of the rules. thumb up

Philosophía
We could do that. I think we could to multiple tourneys throughout the following months tbh, doesn't look like things will change too much worldwide, lol. thumb up

A heads up for everybody -- if you want to remove characters from the mid-herald tier, please state it.

If people want to, these are my proposals: Skreet (maybe?), Wildfire, OMAC (he is not mid-herald, lol), The Fallen One, Damage, void (wildstorm)?

Also, I don't know about you all, but Iron Man should be low-herald...

DarkSaint85
Or how about...

Each participant names 5-6-7 etc characters (depending on how many contestants we get) to go into a pool, THEN randomised.

That way, we don't get Colossus. Or do we??

Philosophía
Hm.

I think that sounds good. And it would eliminate any kind of needless complication with redrafting and fixed picks and whatnot.

I'd be down for that.

Smurph

leonidas
yeah i think that's been done in the past--select characters, randomized but that would work for sure. add to that what smurph said and that should be good. thumb up

leonidas
we still need a couple people. what about supermutant? he been around?

Philosophía
No, he's gone.

I'm thinking abhi or Mr. Mind? Mungi, maybe?

Philosophía
We could have carver and give him Gladiator and Hulk from the start.

Philosophía
I'm talking to a few posters now.

We could start nominating the characters in the meantime.

7 for each tier, each poster.

qwertyuiop1998
@Phil
Thanks bro. Im really appreciate you asking me. But I dont have enough time and energy and I dont think Ive enough knowledge about those characters to handle it. sad
Again Im really appreciate your invitation and Im really sorry about that. But I think I couldnt join this tourney

Philosophía
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
@Phil
Thanks bro. Im really appreciate you asking me. But I dont have enough time and energy and I dont think Ive enough knowledge about those characters to handle it. sad
Again Im really appreciate your invitation and Im really sorry about that. But I think I couldnt join this tourney Thanks either way, qwerty, maybe next time big grin

Damborgson
https://i.imgur.com/02zJS0U.png

Philosophía
laughing out loud

It would be fitting if we meet as Colossus vs Ares or some shit.

leonidas
so you want 7 from each level of each tier--ie--7 low, 7 mid and 7 high street, and on up through heralds?

Philosophía
7 mid h, 7 low h and 7 high meta. Just these 3 tiers thumb up

Each participant will either have 1 mh, 2 lh or 3 high meta randomized.

Bentley
But what if I decide to mix it up and put Colossus and 6 other bricks in my picks?

Philosophía
lmao

Well, you can put whatever you want in your picks. They just have to be 7 each of those 3 tiers.

leonidas
ohh, okay. thumb up

Philosophía
I'm away until Friday, feel free to post your picks everybody!

leonidas
so we list our picks here? then what, a master list is going to be created?

Philosophía
Yes.

leonidas
meta--bigby wolf, invisible woman, dracula, psylocke, ultimo, the tick, sandman

lh--frankenstein, ikaris, death metal, godzilla, red tornado, mirror master, metamorpho

mh--count nefaria, etrigan, hulk, monica, classic ultron (or most current, up to you), apocalypse, kilowog

beatboks
Ok so we each list 7 characters from mid and low herald and high meta to include in the draw?

Mid herald

Damien Hellstrom
Dr. Doom
Shaman (I'm assuming this is Michael Twoyoungmen)

Low herald
Captain Comet
Jesse Quick
Ultra-Humanite

High meta
Uncle Sam

I'd sort of also like to add Guardian I (James Hudson), but im over my 7

beatboks
Wait so we get 7 each tier?
I'll be back to fill my others

beatboks
Mid herald

Damien Hellstrom
Dr. Doom
Shaman (I'm assuming this is Michael Twoyoungmen)
Captain atom
Spectrum (Monica)
Star Saphire
Dr Spectrum (Squadron Supreme)


Low herald
Captain Comet
Jesse Quick
Ultra-Humanite
Jade
Red Tornado
Snowbird
Starman

High meta
Uncle Sam
Guardian I (James Hudson)
Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes)
Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze)
Geo-Force
Starfire
Mimic

I tried to maximise versatility in these picks

beatboks
Since Leo already out up Monica and Reddy (Tornado) swap them for Loki, and Plasticman

Bentley
We will have the full Mid Herald tier in the random choices if we pick 7 characters each lol

Philosophía
There's about 80 mid heralds, we won't. We just trim it down to good chars.

Bentley
Neither leo nor beatboks have picked Kang, clearly they are mostly making meme picks

Philosophía
Since this does not exist in the tiers as far as I see, can you replace it with somebody that is there?

leonidas
Originally posted by Bentley
Neither leo nor beatboks have picked Kang, clearly they are mostly making meme picks

laughing out loud

i just didn't think either of us would be able to survive the irony of me beating you down with kang. thumb up

and yeah, i think spectrum could fit at either low or mid herald.

Philosophía
Damborg, Smurph, you there?

Smurph
Just logged on. Picking now..

leonidas
you know, i was thinking--would it be better to make our 7 picks and reveal them all at once? we we made the same picks that would be fine. if we all try and pick different characters, won't that sort of dilute our pools? i could easily repick and hide the picks until we all declare them, or send them to me or phil to reveal if anyone thinks it's a good idea.

Smurph
MH: Magneto, Cable, Manchester Black, Sersi, Supergirl, Invincible, Black Bolt

LH: Animal Man, Exodus, Magik, Raven, Super Skrull, Superboy, Vision

HM:Captain Cold, Miss Martian, Vixen, Sand, Quake, Emma Frost, Iron Man

Smurph
Originally posted by leonidas
you know, i was thinking--would it be better to make our 7 picks and reveal them all at once? we we made the same picks that would be fine. if we all try and pick different characters, won't that sort of dilute our pools? i could easily repick and hide the picks until we all declare them, or send them to me or phil to reveal if anyone thinks it's a good idea. There was a bit of overlap between who I would have picked and who you and Box had already picked but it forced me to go outside the box a bit, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

I guess it depends if you want a broader pool or not.

leonidas
lol knew you'd take sand.... and i'm fine either way.

Smurph

leonidas
laughing out loud a dream pairing. thumb up

Damborgson

leonidas
yeah, i think that's the stance we're taking, but i'm still a little unclear on a couple things.

if borg and i matched up, one gets first pick, correct? say borg picks a mh. do i HAVE to choose 2 lh's or 3 hm's? can i choose a mh to go against him? can i choose 2 hm's + 1 lh? and we get to pick who we want, is that right? or is it random--ie--borg randomly gets a mh, then i randomly get 2 lh's and if the match is no good we re-roll and hope for a better match?

guess i'm still a little hazy on the rules. and am i the only one who finds it suspicious that phil and ds are BOTH away at the same time...? no doubt taking a couple days in a hotel working on draft strategies. sneer

DarkSaint85
Pfft. Your suspicions are unfounded.

We live together, no hotel needed.

Edit: I thought it's randomised whether we get a lh/mh etc.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Damborgson
Yeah! I'll put up my choices later today !

They cannot overlap with others choices right? yep, they cannot overlap. distinct 7 chars for each poster.

whether you get mh, lh or hm will be randomized. some may land a mh vs 3 hm, others 2lh vs 3 hm etc.

the characters will be randomly picked from the pool of everybody's choices for each of the 3 tiers.

leonidas
ok, so ALL the picks go into the hopper--we don't just get someone from our 7 picks. thumb up

beatboks
You don't think Dr Spectrum would be a mid herald? Its the tier all your general GLs are in and that's basically what he is. Put Wildfire in instead, that is the energy form Legionare right?

Bentley
Originally posted by leonidas
laughing out loud

i just didn't think either of us would be able to survive the irony of me beating you down with kang. thumb up

and yeah, i think spectrum could fit at either low or mid herald.

The truest Kang fan was leo all along

I'm still deciding on whether I should poison the well and put a bunch of bricks within my picks.

beatboks
Originally posted by Bentley
The truest Kang fan was leo all along

I'm still deciding on whether I should poison the well and put a bunch of bricks within my picks.

🥺👹

leonidas
Originally posted by Bentley
The truest Kang fan was leo all along

I'm still deciding on whether I should poison the well and put a bunch of bricks within my picks.

i love the kang. i THINK i still hold...one of the herald belts with him? maybe? and sure, add the bricks. just make sure herc is one of them. herc v kang has to happen. thumb up

beatboks
Ok so here is our list so far

High meta--
bigby wolf
invisible woman
dracula
psylocke
ultimo
the tick
sandman
Uncle Sam
Guardian I (James Hudson)
Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes)
Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze)
Geo-Force
Starfire
Mimic
Captain Cold
Miss Martian
Vixen
Sand
Quake
Emma Frost
Iron Man

Low Herald--
frankenstein
ikaris
death metal
godzilla
red tornado
mirror master
metamorpho
Captain Comet
Jesse Quick
Ultra-Humanite
Jade
Plastic man
Snowbird
Starman
Animal Man
Exodus
Magik
Raven
Super Skrull
Superboy
Vision

mid herald--
count nefaria
etrigan
hulk
monica
classic ultron (or most current, up to you), apocalypse
kilowog
Damien Hellstrom
Dr. Doom
Shaman (I'm assuming this is Michael Twoyoungmen)
Captain atom
Loki
Star Saphire
Wildfire
Magneto
Cable
Manchester Black
Sersi
Supergirl
Invincible
Black Bolt

MrMind
holy shit that's a lot of people you guys are crazy

beatboks
Just noticed that the tears list does not mention which Stalin it is I dont know about anyone But as I see it pretty much all the starmen from DC are on the same level. So I'm if anyone draws this can they can choose from either Thom, Prince gavyn, a member of the Knight family, Will Peyton, and the one who was a JLAer under Grayson Batman. Or should we state which starman it is now?

Sorry didn't think at the time. I was thinking Robinson's starman

Damborgson
Mid Herald:

Kurse, Mongul, Battle Beast, Cheetah, Conquest, Shaggy Man, Invincible

Low Herald:

Angela, Apollo, Drax, Godzilla, He-Man, Hercules, Morlun

High Meta:

Abomination, Ares, Atlas, Black Dwarf, Colossus, Namor, Wonder Man

https://en.meming.world/images/en/thumb/d/de/Leonardo_DiCaprio_Laughing.jpg/300px-Leonardo_DiCaprio_Laughing.jpg

Bentley
About times picks got real

leonidas
@borg--i already chose godzilla. but he's cool enough that he should be chosen twice so i approve. thumb up

incidentally, that was intended to be a composite version of godzilla--all material was game except maybe manga. thought there were some absurd manga feats at one time....

beatboks
Originally posted by beatboks
Just noticed that the tears list does not mention which Stalin it is I dont know about anyone But as I see it pretty much all the starmen from DC are on the same level. So I'm if anyone draws this can they can choose from either Thom, Prince gavyn, a member of the Knight family, Will Peyton, and the one who was a JLAer under Grayson Batman. Or should we state which starman it is now?

Sorry didn't think at the time. I was thinking Robinson's starman

Thinkng on this, the only 2 Starmen that would be low herald would be Will Peyton, and Jack Knight (Robinson's). Prince Gavyn would only be high meta, Thom's gravity powers are pretty lame and while Ted knight has 3 or maybe 4 feats (like when he took on Crime Syndicste's Ultraman) that would fit that tier his overwhelming majority are only high meta.

So I guess we need to choose which of the two. Peyton was a class 100 brick with energy manip and limited shape shifting (could alter his face, that's all I recall)

DarkSaint85
My picks will be in today

DarkSaint85
https://i.imgur.com/5htsFLp.jpg

MH: Citizen Steel, Damage, Hyperion, Juggernaut (Classic), Maestro, Mon-El, Omni-Man.

LH: Atlas (DS), Fin Fang Foom, Gilgamesh, Lunatik, She-Hulk, Solomon Gruny, Ultra Boy

HM: Captain Britain, Captain Nazi, Giganta, Juggernaut (Depowered), Maul, Metallo, The Thing.

leonidas
i think phil said something about damage being out of the running because he thought damage was too powerful. i almost chose fff too lol great villain. thumb up

Smurph
Cool. Nice mix of bricks in the pool now.

beatboks
Current list

High meta
bigby wolf
invisible woman
dracula
psylocke
ultimo
the tick
sandman
Uncle Sam
Guardian I (James Hudson)
Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes)
Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze)
Geo-Force
Starfire
Mimic
Captain Cold
Miss Martian
Vixen
Sand
Quake
Emma Frost
Iron Man
Abomination
Ares
Atlas
Black Dwarf
Colossus
Namor
Wonder Man
Captain Britain
Captain Nazi
Giganta
Juggernaut (Depowered)
Maul
Metallo
The Thing.

Low Herald
frankenstein
ikaris
death metal
godzilla
red tornado
mirror master
metamorpho
Captain Comet
Jesse Quick
Ultra-Humanite
Jade
Plastic man
Snowbird
Starman
Animal Man
Exodus
Magik
Raven
Super Skrull
Superboy
Vision
Angela
Apollo
Drax
Godzilla
He-Man
Hercules
Morlun
Atlas (DS)
Fin Fang Foom
Gilgamesh
Lunatik
She-Hulk
Solomon Gruny
Ultra Boy

mid herald
count nefaria
etrigan
hulk
monica
classic ultron (or most current, up to you), apocalypse
kilowog
Damien Hellstrom
Dr. Doom
Shaman (I'm assuming this is Michael Twoyoungmen)
Captain atom
Loki
Star Saphire
Wildfire
Magneto
Cable
Manchester Black
Sersi
Supergirl
Invincible
Black Bolt
Kurse
Mongul
Battle Beast
Cheetah
Conquest
Shaggy Man
Invincible - now picked twice
Citizen Steel
Damage
Hyperion
Juggernaut (Classic)
Maestro
Mon-El
Omni-Man.

Damborgson
Ares, Colossus, and I don't need another pick.

beatboks
Do we have any more than 6 players yet?
If not we have our finalised list (less 1 that is double picked)

Do we still get to re-randomise a character. I know we made the refined list but there are for example 3 high metas, 3 low Heralds and a mid Herald that I wouldn't even know where to look to research the character.

Based purely onbthe fact that there is only 11 of the 35 mid heralds I can debate well without a truck load of research compared tk 18 low heralds, and 22 high meta I'm choosing to be randomised for a single low herald and the high meta 2. The odds are better for me getting characters I'm somewhat familiar with that way.

Bentley
Can I use three spots to add Iron-Lad, Kang the Conqueror and the Scarlett Centurion?

Asking for a friend

beatboks
Originally posted by Bentley
Can I use three spots to add Iron-Lad, Kang the Conqueror and the Scarlett Centurion?

Asking for a friend

Actually your one of our six aren't you? So you get 7 picks per tier. Just realised we should have 42 per tier with 6 players and we only have 35.

Bentley
Oh, I'm the only one left for picks? I guess I should get a list going

Bentley
High Meta

Clor
Doctor Voodoo
Mercer Drake
Ultimate Reed Richards
Man-Beast
She-Hulk
Depowered Juggernaut (I hope he teams up with Classic Juggs)


Low Meta

Blanque
Breach
Gorilla Granny
Kenan Kong
Witchfire
Union
Wendigo

Mid Herald

Abra Kadabra
Alexander Nero
Katma
Invincible (now picked three times)
Evinlea
Void

and Kang

DarkSaint85
I thought we DONT pick the same character multiple times..

Philosophía
Bentley, Darksaint already picked both versions of Juggernaut separately, you have to pick another char big grin

DarkSaint85
Plus invincible

Bentley

Philosophía
Damborg and Bentley, please replace Invincible. Smurph already chose him.

beatboks
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought we DONT pick the same character multiple times..

Invincible is just now in the pool three times. He can be drawn by three different players 😉

Bentley
Jessica Cruz then

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by beatboks
Invincible is just now in the pool three times. He can be drawn by three different players 😉

No, as in we all pick 21 DIFFERENT characters each to go into a pool.

Philosophía
Originally posted by Bentley
Jessica Cruz then thumb up

Damborg?

leonidas
c'mon borg, up and at 'em already!

Philosophía
So, on my end: I can't participate in the tourney until mid-march (16 onwards).

Now, we're 7. There's a few ways we can do this:

- I match all 6 of you with each other (1v1s) in a few days. 3 people will win. The 3 people losing will get matched with each other in another match and one of them will advance, even if they lost their quarter final match (I'm actually surprised we never did this?)
or
- I match all 6 of you with each other in a few days. I find somebody for me and then you get a break until the 20th or so when I finish a match with somebody I find. Then we continue to the semis
or
- we can drag this out until then. gives everybody 2-3 weeks to read up on their picks.

Imo, the best solution will be the first (all 6 of you matching up) and by the time you finish I'll see what's what with my match or not.

leonidas
the first option sounds fine. too bad you're out though.

Philosophía
Given how long this generally stretches out with posting and judging, I think I will be in the losers match, too. We'll see. Either way, I will put my tier picks in a bit and start drafting the match ups and characters.

Smurph

leonidas
my go-to in every bz. laughing out loud

Philosophía

Damborgson
I wouldn't mind waiting 🤷‍♂️

Philosophía
Don't worry dambo if we don't meet now we will do what I PMd you afterwards!

Damborgson
Phil please, not in public...

leonidas
laughing out loud

Philosophía
Originally posted by Damborgson
Phil please, not in public... lmao

I'll finish the:
- list
- assignment to tiers
- randomized drafts

Today.

Please give me 3 numbers each of you. If you get mh I will use the first number. If you get lh I will use the first two numbers. If you get the high meta I will use all 3 numbers.

MrMind
Originally posted by Damborgson
Phil please, not in public...

can't believe phil is cheating on me like that, such bullshit

Philosophía
Dambo, replace Invincible!

DarkSaint85
Replace She Hulk with Medusa

Philosophía
My picks:
Mid heralds: Lobo, Bizarro, Black Adam, Morg, Icon, Grayven, Captain Marvel
Low heralds: Aquaman, Krypto, Power Girl, Solomon Grundy, Ravenous, Isis
High Meta: Ulik, Sebastian Shaw, Rulk (no energy absorbtion), Captain Marvel Jr., Captain Nazi, Donna Troy

Originally posted by Damborgson
https://en.meming.world/images/en/thumb/d/de/Leonardo_DiCaprio_Laughing.jpg/300px-Leonardo_DiCaprio_Laughing.jpg

I will draft everything in a bit.

Damborgson
1,5,3

Philosophía

DarkSaint85
Three numbers between?

Philosophía
7 x 7 = .... 49!

Philosophía
Dambo you haven't replaced Invincible yet!

edit: and I just realized I have to add 1 more lh and 1 hm for me, lol.

leonidas
so any numbers between 1-49? and no one can choose the same numbers.

ummmm, 4, 16, 32

Philosophía
thumb up

Philosophía
My last two picks are Major Force for LH and Osiris for HM.

So:
High meta:

low herald:

mid herald:

DarkSaint85
17, 27, 8

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