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Another highlight reel of Adam punching someone to space.

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Originally posted by Booya_69
Another highlight reel of Adam punching someone to space.
Same goes for the Demon
http://imgur.com/yDDpalK
http://imgur.com/P7OQOEr

Imo, punching Superman to the moon >>>> anything BM has done.

Originally posted by h1a8
Imo, punching Superman to the moon >>>> anything BM has done.

Etrigan can hurt Superman due to his weakness to magic. Bm does it thru pure haymakers.

The difference is, BM punch did something to Sentry (he was knocked THO) whereas Etrigan punch wasn't all that effective against Superman. Punching someone some distance doesn't equal damage output. I can name punches that are far more effective where the opponent didn't move some ft away from the puncher.

That just means supes ate a harder blow.

Does it really? Why?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That just means supes ate a harder blow.

No. That's not what it means. Then, we don't even know how far Sentry went but still, distance doesn't equal power.

Looking at it again, Sentry's trajectory was cut short by the space station.

Still, comparatively speaking the Demon's punch seems more impressive imo.

Originally posted by carver9
No. That's not what it means. Then, we don't even know how far Sentry went but still, distance doesn't equal power.

Erm...it kinda does, lol.

The ISS is 'only' 408km above Earth. Mir (the Russian station) was 358km above Earth.

The Moon is 384,400km from Earth.

That's nearly 1000 times further.

Now, one can argue space having no air resistance blah blah - but what's important is the speed of travel here. And there didn't seem to be an appreciable lag between the two feats.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Looking at it again, Sentry's trajectory was cut short by the space station.

Still, comparatively speaking the Demon's punch seems more impressive imo.

"Estrogen"

Wut sites have u been checkin out?

Originally posted by carver9
The difference is, BM punch did something to Sentry (he was knocked THO) whereas Etrigan punch wasn't all that effective against Superman. Punching someone some distance doesn't equal damage output. I can name punches that are far more effective where the opponent didn't move some ft away from the puncher.

Wrong!

You have to prove (can't assume) that it takes more power to ko Sentry than it takes to knock Sentry in orbit. Just so you know, it takes trillions of tons of force to knock Sentry in orbit.

Knocking someone to the moon takes magnitudes more power.

In COMICS distance means nothing. Example....

This punch sent Wolverine flying some ft away from Hulk and it melted all of his internals and temporarily koed him and no, a tree should not be capable of stopping a punch that can send a person to the moon...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111237067/5020445-5859228642-HulkR.jpg

This kick sent Wolverine flying from the US all the way to another country and it did absolutely nothing...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3c2171e7214b468ab84c8f7162384f06

I can post the same thing with Superman. A punch not even moving him some ft away knocking him TF out while Etrigan punch did absolutely nothing. Distance doesn't equal power, IN COMICS. Not safe to use real world logic from a comic book. You all should stop this.

Originally posted by carver9
In COMICS distance means nothing. Example....

This punch sent Wolverine flying some ft away from Hulk and it melted all of his internals and temporarily koed him and no, a tree should not be capable of stopping a punch that can send a person to the moon...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111237067/5020445-5859228642-HulkR.jpg

This kick sent Wolverine flying from the US all the way to another country and it did absolutely nothing...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3c2171e7214b468ab84c8f7162384f06

I can post the same thing with Superman. A punch not even moving him some ft away knocking him TF out while Etrigan punch did absolutely nothing. Distance doesn't equal power, IN COMICS. Not safe to use real world logic from a comic book. You all should stop this.

Yes in overall scheme of things, cheesy feats or collateral damage is not be all end all.. But for the type of feats shown, they are very similar. So comparatively speaking, one is more impressive than the other.

We're comparing these two in a vacuum.

Originally posted by carver9
In COMICS distance means nothing. Example....

This punch sent Wolverine flying some ft away from Hulk and it melted all of his internals and temporarily koed him and no, a tree should not be capable of stopping a punch that can send a person to the moon...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111237067/5020445-5859228642-HulkR.jpg

This kick sent Wolverine flying from the US all the way to another country and it did absolutely nothing...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3c2171e7214b468ab84c8f7162384f06

I can post the same thing with Superman. A punch not even moving him some ft away knocking him TF out while Etrigan punch did absolutely nothing. Distance doesn't equal power, IN COMICS. Not safe to use real world logic from a comic book. You all should stop this.

Distance ADDS to the calculated damage output.
If someone gets punched into space then you can't say it took less force to do that than what is supposed to.

However, Lack of distance doesn't imply lack of power.
I agree there.

That's why I ask for you to prove that it is harder to ko Sentry than to knock him in orbit. This would prove that BM hit Sentry harder than what it took to just hit him in orbit.

If you can't prove it then we have to assume that the exact force it takes to hit Sentry to space is the right amount of force needed to ko him.

Originally posted by carver9
In COMICS distance means nothing. Example....

This punch sent Wolverine flying some ft away from Hulk and it melted all of his internals and temporarily koed him and no, a tree should not be capable of stopping a punch that can send a person to the moon...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111237067/5020445-5859228642-HulkR.jpg

This kick sent Wolverine flying from the US all the way to another country and it did absolutely nothing...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3c2171e7214b468ab84c8f7162384f06

I can post the same thing with Superman. A punch not even moving him some ft away knocking him TF out while Etrigan punch did absolutely nothing. Distance doesn't equal power, IN COMICS. Not safe to use real world logic from a comic book. You all should stop this.

In addition to what the others said:

But your logic is faulty.

You are asserting that Lobo's punch is less powerful, due to Sentry being KOd and Superman being OK.

But that relies on Sentry having better or equal durability to Superman, and writers taking this into account, when we know they don't even take simple physics into account. Not to mention, Sentry's powers depend on his mindset at the time - he got depowered by IM's invention, for example.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yes in overall scheme of things, cheesy feats or collateral damage is not be all end all.. But for the type of feats shown, they are very similar. So comparatively speaking, one is more impressive than the other.

We're comparing these two in a vacuum.

And we still can't use it against Sentry since he was rammed into a satellite after the punch and was sent a distance we are unsure of. The last panel we saw was him going through a satellite and if I remember correctly, he was still going.

Didnt DC Hercules knock out Superman with an uppercut that only sent him to orbit?

Originally posted by carver9
And we still can't use it against Sentry since he was rammed into a satellite after the punch and was sent a distance we are unsure of. The last panel we saw was him going through a satellite and if I remember correctly, he was still going. The moon is like a thousand times further. It took only a few seconds for Superman to reach the moon. It took a similar amount of time for Sentry to reach the satellite.

Unless you want to argue that Sentry would have traveled a moon distance if it wasn't for the satellite?

Originally posted by h1a8
The moon is like a thousand times further. It took only a few seconds for Superman to reach the moon. It took a similar amount of time for Sentry to reach the satellite.

Unless you want to argue that Sentry would have traveled a moon distance if it wasn't for the satellite?

What I'm saying is, we have no idea how far Sentry was sent flying since he kept going off panel.

Originally posted by carver9
What I'm saying is, we have no idea how far Sentry was sent flying since he kept going off panel.

Prove it.

He was shown floating in space - I have helpfully circled the debris floating in space with him, plus you can see his lovely blonde locks floating in space:

https://i.postimg.cc/BvBndYsd/1031143-albm-05-010.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
What I'm saying is, we have no idea how far Sentry was sent flying since he kept going off panel.

Then you can't assume he was sent a moon distance. Lack of evidence for something implies no proof for that something. So as it stands Superman was hit much further away than Sentry was.

Tbh, it took Sentry more than 3 seconds to reach the satellite. After going through the satellite Sentry travel another few seconds before returning.
So he traveled a much smaller distance after going through the satellite than the distance from Earth to the satellite. Just to be nice let's double the distance.

@Carver
Looks like the station cut his trajectory short

Bm sent his superior to space and kod him.
Estrogen sent his superior to the moon, but otherwise was fine.

Which one is more impressive?

Thats actually a gud point. I was merely comparing the "math" b/n the two since you originally mentioned hitting people to space. What you just stated brings up a more complete viepoint of the feats.

What if someone says Supes is simply more durable? Thats a rabbit hole i didnt care to dive into. I just wanted to keep it simple.

The whole magic thing has me questioning whether or not Adam can win this. I believe that he's as strong, or possibly stronger than Etrigan, but strength and durability may not be the actual deciding factors here.

The Rhymer for me.

We need a volleyball expert in here.

Originally posted by carver9
In COMICS distance means nothing. Example....

This punch sent Wolverine flying some ft away from Hulk and it melted all of his internals and temporarily koed him and no, a tree should not be capable of stopping a punch that can send a person to the moon...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111237067/5020445-5859228642-HulkR.jpg

This kick sent Wolverine flying from the US all the way to another country and it did absolutely nothing...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3c2171e7214b468ab84c8f7162384f06

I can post the same thing with Superman. A punch not even moving him some ft away knocking him TF out while Etrigan punch did absolutely nothing. Distance doesn't equal power, IN COMICS. Not safe to use real world logic from a comic book. You all should stop this.

This argument doesn't prove anything.
A KO in a boxing match can be achieved by a weaker punch for many reasons.

1.Technique of the punch. https://youtu.be/ticJpFe4Ozc
2. Where the blow strikes
https://youtu.be/2qhaUQbosgc
3. Accumulative damage
4. Difference in reaction of the one being hit (rolled with it as opposed to stepped into it)
5. Simple fatigue on the part of the one being punched

There are many more examples.

For example a punch into the solar plexus of an adversary can knock the wind out of them and cause a KO from a simple lack of air. https://youtu.be/zTr1ng9DWfA

Technique can alter the power behind a blow. A blow that has the torso swinging behind it has a lot more power than say an uppercut.

Etrigan sent Supes to the moon with an uppercut, so not he most powerful option. It had his strength but not his bodyweight behind it. Had he put some torso action into it it would have had several times the power as it would have come from more than JUST the upper body muscles but would have been powered by the legs and abdomen as well.

The power of a punch rarely has much to do with the amount of damage it causes. It helps yes but the damage is the combination of a lot of factors combines and power is a very small part of it