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After reviewing Joe Biden's first 17 executive orders since he took office, I was curious about the implications behind the reversal of Donald Trumps executive order to not count undocumented immigrants in census's.

https://cis.org/Report/Impact-Legal-and-Illegal-Immigration-Apportionment-Seats-US-House-Representatives-2020




So all immigrants, legal and undocumented, account for 26 seats. 24 from states that Donald Trump lost.


California gains 11 more seats. New York and Texas get four seats. Florida gets 3 seats.


I believe this is a projection at the time, unsure what the actual outcome was.


Undocumented immigrants alone gives California four more seats. A lot of other states lose seats because of the new proportions in other states from immigration (If I'm reading this right)


Some red states do seem to benefit, but blue seem to have a distinct advantage.


Its no wonder the Democrats established themselves as the party of immigrants, considering you want all the seats you can get.

Tl;dr

So Democrats are once again willing to throw Americans under the bus to cater to Illegals.

No surprise here.

Originally posted by Klaw
So Democrats are once again willing to throw Americans under the bus to cater to Illegals.

No surprise here.

Leftists can't help it. It's genetic.

This is a presentation explaining the genetic component of politics.

It's a 3 part video that someone edited into one video, so it is 5 and a half hours, but it is well worth the watch.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/eAicvlOyIBaE/

Originally posted by cdtm
After reviewing Joe Biden's first 17 executive orders since he took office, I was curious about the implications behind the reversal of Donald Trumps executive order to not count undocumented immigrants in census's.

https://cis.org/Report/Impact-Legal-and-Illegal-Immigration-Apportionment-Seats-US-House-Representatives-2020




So all immigrants, legal and undocumented, account for 26 seats. 24 from states that Donald Trump lost.


California gains 11 more seats. New York and Texas get four seats. Florida gets 3 seats.


I believe this is a projection at the time, unsure what the actual outcome was.


Undocumented immigrants alone gives California four more seats. A lot of other states lose seats because of the new proportions in other states from immigration (If I'm reading this right)


Some red states do seem to benefit, but blue seem to have a distinct advantage.


Its no wonder the Democrats established themselves as the party of immigrants, considering you want all the seats you can get.

So much for the Enumeration Clause of the Constitution, amirite?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
So much for the Enumeration Clause of the Constitution, amirite?


I'm not judging it either way. I was simply curious about what it meant.


Immigration and undocumented immigration equal seats in congress, which effects presidential elections. This suggests ulterior motives for a party supporting or condemning immigration, outside of the public talking points we get.

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm not judging it either way. I was simply curious about what it meant.


Immigration and undocumented immigration equal seats in congress, which effects presidential elections. This suggests ulterior motives for a party supporting or condemning immigration, outside of the public talking points we get.

No, allocations and apportionments are made by resident population, according to the consitution and federal law, full stop. Citizenship and immigration status are totally irrelevant. That does not suggest anything. It is you, and your right-wing conspiratorial mindset, ascribing motivations where there are none.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
No, allocations and apportionments are made by resident population, according to the consitution and federal law, full stop. Citizenship and immigration status are totally irrelevant. That does not suggest anything. It is you, and your right-wing conspiratorial mindset, ascribing motivations where there are none.

There isn't really anything in your disgreement that debunks my "right wing conspiracy theory" though. Calling immigration status irrelevant and citing laws doesn't stop immigration from shaping census statistics.

But it wasn't my intention to wage an argument.

Schrodinger's Latino immigrants. Both voting Democrat only whilst simultaneously voting Republican in increasing numbers at the last election.

Originally posted by cdtm
There isn't really anything in your disgreement that debunks my "right wing conspiracy theory" though. Calling immigration status irrelevant and citing laws doesn't stop immigration from shaping census statistics.

But it wasn't my intention to wage an argument.

No one suggested that changing populations do not affect allocations and appropriations. What is a conspiracy is the notion that political parties are manipulating policies to change allocations and appropriations in their favor. This entire thread starts with A, and immediately jumps to Z with no evidence. That is why it is a conspiracy.

Wow, why is kmc such a left wing echo chamber and full of Marxist philosophy with threads like this!

Originally posted by Blakemore
Wow, why is kmc such a left wing echo chamber and full of Marxist philosophy with threads like this!

I'm a life long Democrat, if LoneRangr doesn't like my leftist thinking that's his problem.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Schrodinger's Latino immigrants. Both voting Democrat only whilst simultaneously voting Republican in increasing numbers at the last election.


Which ties into my earlier observation about Hispanics being overlooked by the media.


I asked that question on Quora, and a responder essentially pointed out they aren't reliable voters for Democrats. But in his own words.


He used the term "Hispanics have a problem related to whites". I asked if he meant many Hispanics can pass as white, and he said "Well, that's one reason." Meaning not the reason he was thinking of.

The implication I got was an assumption that Republicans are considered the party of white bigots, and Hispanics are willing to vote for white bigots, and so the left media is essentially ignoring them.


If that isn't what he meant, I'm not sure how many other problems Hispanics can possibly have related to white people.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Wow, why is kmc such a left wing echo chamber and full of Marxist philosophy with threads like this!

I believe you.

This was something I brought up ages ago, unrestricted immigrants on the border impact elections, it's a simple fact population increases representation in the house.

Originally posted by snowdragon
This was something I brought up ages ago, unrestricted immigrants on the border impact elections, it's a simple fact population increases representation in the house.

That would explain the hostile response to the query.


I actually didn't take my cue from reading another article or post, and was merely curious over why Trump would make such an order, and why Biden would immediately reverse it. So I looked into it.

Politifact has a pretty funny defense of immigration affecting seats. They put up a false claim that California has 6 seats from a recent census. Politifact set the record straight that this is complete bs.


They didn't get 6 seats. They got 2-4 seats.

Originally posted by Klaw
So Democrats are once again willing to throw Americans under the bus to cater to Illegals.

No surprise here.

Why do you have a problem with immigrants?

Originally posted by truejedi
Why do you have a problem with immigrants? I think we know

Originally posted by truejedi
Why do you have a problem with immigrants?

How did you get that I have a problem with Immigrants from me condemning Illegals?

Originally posted by Klaw
How did you get that I have a problem with Immigrants from me condemning Illegals?

This kind of ignorance:P

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I think we know

The part where you are condemning them?

Originally posted by truejedi
The part where you are condemning them? This is where you simply explain yourself.

Originally posted by Klaw
I believe you. that was supposed to be a question mark.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Wow, why is kmc such a left wing echo chamber and full of Marxist philosophy with threads like this? here, I fixed it.

Originally posted by cdtm
Which ties into my earlier observation about Hispanics being overlooked by the media.


I asked that question on Quora, and a responder essentially pointed out they aren't reliable voters for Democrats. But in his own words.


He used the term "Hispanics have a problem related to whites". I asked if he meant many Hispanics can pass as white, and he said "Well, that's one reason." Meaning not the reason he was thinking of.

The implication I got was an assumption that Republicans are considered the party of white bigots, and Hispanics are willing to vote for white bigots, and so the left media is essentially ignoring them.


If that isn't what he meant, I'm not sure how many other problems Hispanics can possibly have related to white people.

Sort of puts paid to the notion that Democrats want Hispanic immigration in order to stack the election deck in their favour if they increasingly vote Republican. A big part of it was the Obama Administration's stance towards Cuba, particularly in Florida where the Cuban diaspora don't take to kindly towards sucking up to a regime that exiled them.

Another big part of it would be the focus on the black community to the detriment of the Hispanic community.

Originally posted by cdtm
Which ties into my earlier observation about Hispanics being overlooked by the media.


I asked that question on Quora, and a responder essentially pointed out they aren't reliable voters for Democrats. But in his own words.


He used the term "Hispanics have a problem related to whites". I asked if he meant many Hispanics can pass as white, and he said "Well, that's one reason." Meaning not the reason he was thinking of.

The implication I got was an assumption that Republicans are considered the party of white bigots, and Hispanics are willing to vote for white bigots, and so the left media is essentially ignoring them.


If that isn't what he meant, I'm not sure how many other problems Hispanics can possibly have related to white people.

Jesus Christ. That is not what he means at all. You know that Hispanics and Latinos can be white, right? That is why if you mark "White" as your race on a demographic questionnaire, you then have to specify whether you are "Not Hispanic or Latino."

Many Hispanics and Latinos are or consider themselves to be white, and vote accordingly. They do not realize that the white racists with whom they are voting in solidarity do not likewise see them as white, and would be the first to tell them to go back where they came from.

Originally posted by cdtm
After reviewing Joe Biden's first 17 executive orders since he took office, I was curious about the implications behind the reversal of Donald Trumps executive order to not count undocumented immigrants in census's.

https://cis.org/Report/Impact-Legal-and-Illegal-Immigration-Apportionment-Seats-US-House-Representatives-2020




So all immigrants, legal and undocumented, account for 26 seats. 24 from states that Donald Trump lost.


California gains 11 more seats. New York and Texas get four seats. Florida gets 3 seats.


I believe this is a projection at the time, unsure what the actual outcome was.


Undocumented immigrants alone gives California four more seats. A lot of other states lose seats because of the new proportions in other states from immigration (If I'm reading this right)


Some red states do seem to benefit, but blue seem to have a distinct advantage.


Its no wonder the Democrats established themselves as the party of immigrants, considering you want all the seats you can get.


The party of immigrants, my ass. They're the party of illegal aliens, baby murder, and anti-USA policies. Illegal immigration hurts those who try to immigrate here legally, not to mention how it negatively affects all actual American citizens.


Don't play the left's disingenuous game by lumping illegal aliens in with actual, legitimate immigrants.

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm a life long Democrat, if LoneRangr doesn't like my leftist thinking that's his problem.


Nah, you can hold whatever political opinions you like. Unlike leftists, I think everyone is entitled to have their voice heard. My only problem is when you call illegal aliens "undocumented immigrants" but like you said, you have a "leftist way of thinking" so it's not really surprising.

@Blake: kinda like how left wingers calling everyone who holds right wing views a "Nazi," is stupid, eh?


Especially when you consider the fact that Hitler's naziism was actually a left-wing ideology.


Speaking of which, do you still idolize Hitler?

You don't know anyone who holds right wing views? Seriously?! But I thought you claimed you did. You voted for Brexit didn't you?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
You don't know anyone who holds right wing views? Seriously?! But I thought you claimed you did. You voted for Brexit didn't you?

I voted for Brexit.

Am I a right-winger now too?

I fairly get about that politicalspectrum, apparently.

Originally posted by truejedi
The part where you are condemning them?

Never did that.

Take your race baiting elsewhere.

Blake: they're left wing. At least Hitler's nazis were. There may be some idiot skinhead neonazis today that consider themselves to be right wing though. As a legitimate right winger, I have nothing to do with them. They do not speak for me.

I've always said that naziism, communism, and socialism are all sister ideologies. They are all big government, they all value the state and the collective more than the individual, and they are all authoritarian.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Blake: they're left wing. At least Hitler's nazis were. There may be some idiot skinhead neonazis today that consider themselves to be right wing though. As a legitimate right winger, I have nothing to do with them. They do not speak for me.

I've always said that naziism, communism, and socialism are all sister ideologies. They are all big government, they all value the state and the collective more than the individual, and they are all authoritarian. dur

Go cry about Brexit some more, pooty.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Go cry about Brexit some more, pooty. durwank

Sorry ethneo, but whirly trolls you well. 😂

No, he sucks at it.

Because everyone knows that if you don't count the undocumented immigrants, they don't really exist and therefore don't factor in real life.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because everyone knows that if you don't count the undocumented immigrants, they don't really exist and therefore don't factor in real life.

At the federal lvl that should be true in the sense of seats in the house but how they are representated locally more than likely doesn't ignore them, they are ppl and do get voices.

Yet they have the same needs like everyone else and therefore should be counted in the census.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet they have the same needs like everyone else and therefore should be counted in the census.

Ok, Well if you aren't American than why should you be represented at the federal lvl regarding US issues?

To be fair many issues are handled locally with budgets etc and they can vote at that lvl.

Because they have the same needs like everyone else.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because they have the same needs like everyone else.

Sure but are you saying their needs are denied by their communities? No you of course just make a statement frankly you'll never support.

I don't know, and that's a rather wide net you're casting there. Guess I'd have to go ask every undocumented immigrant. Or I can continue to laugh at the bad faith question.


Point is: They're people; they should be counted in the census. The Constitution dictates that the number of House Representatives is dictated by a state's population, also dictates limits therein.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't know, and that's a rather wide net you're casting there. Guess I'd have to go ask every undocumented immigrant. Or I can laugh at the bad faith question.


Point is: They're people; they should be counted in the census. The Constitution dictates that the number of House Representatives is dictated by a state's population, also dictates limits therein.

Frankly you aren't listening to half my question in an attempt to be correct. This happened earlier.

No you don't you just literally have to live in a community in the USA and realize illegal immigrants have a voice locally.

Awesome, I am glad undocumented immigrants have a "voice locally".

That has nothing to do with the census and the need for them to be counted, as they're still people like everyone else, undocumented or not. See Article I, Section II of the Constitution when in comes to House Representatives and numbers and limits therein.


You seem to think they should not be counted in the census? Why?

Originally posted by Robtard
Awesome, I am glad undocumented immigrants have a "voice locally".

That has nothing to do with the census and the need for them to be counted, as they're still people like everyone else, undocumented or not. See Article I, Section II of the Constitution when in comes to House Representatives and numbers and limits therein.


You seem to think they should not be counted in the census? Why?

Did they amend that to not include all the things about black people that shouldn't be included?

That would be the 15th Amendment, 1870. But states adopted local laws to limit Black people from voting, which were around until 1965 with the passing of the Voting Rights Act.

Originally posted by Robtard
That would be the 15th Amendment, 1870. But states adopted local laws to limit Black people from voting, which were around until 1965 with the passing of the Voting Rights Act.

Forgive me, I just remembered in passing an episode of the West Wing that dealt with the census and how using article 1 section 2 was terrible because it didn't consider a black person any more than 3/5 of a person. And how using that article as a defence was a bad thing. and that sample sizes were good things.

But that was a TV show and this is the internet so **** it, I dunno.

Originally posted by Robtard
Awesome, I am glad undocumented immigrants have a "voice locally".

That has nothing to do with the census and the need for them to be counted, as they're still people like everyone else, undocumented or not. See Article I, Section II of the Constitution when in comes to House Representatives and numbers and limits therein.


You seem to think they should not be counted in the census? Why?

Well for federal things they aren't citizens that isn't rocket science, if I'm wrong put them on the books.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Forgive me, I just remembered in passing an episode of the West Wing that dealt with the census and how using article 1 section 2 was terrible because it didn't consider a black person any more than 3/5 of a person. And how using that article as a defence was a bad thing. and that sample sizes were good things.

But that was a TV show and this is the internet so **** it, I dunno.

That's what the 15th Amendment is for, it amended: "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude."

Doesn't mean every aspect of Article I Section II was done away with or was shit to begin with. The racist shit about slaves, Black people and "Indians", yeah, that needed to go and it did.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Well for federal things they aren't citizens that isn't rocket science, if I'm wrong put them on the books.


Yet they're still people and should be counted in the census, as we count "residents".

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet they're still people and should be counted in the census, as we count "residents".

Yeah I literally said they belong in their communities yet a country defines itself separately. Now we can get into the salad bowl or stew concept if you want.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet they're still people and should be counted in the census, as we count "residents".

If a home is on fire, the firefighters do not ask if it is occupied by citizens or non-citizens. They do not evacuate the citizens, and leave the non-citizens to burn. It is almost as if resources need to be allocated to the local fire department, so they can adequately respond to fires in the homes of all residents. Gee, I wonder if that has something to do with why the constitution and federal laws require the census to count all residents, and not just citizens?

Originally posted by snowdragon
Yeah I literally said they belong in their communities yet a country defines itself separately. Now we can get into the salad bowl or stew concept if you want. It's both, actually, some completely assimilate into American culture, other's retain their cultural identity, while still being Americans.

The age an immigrant comes over is a large factor, as a 3year old is more like to assimilate fully into American culture than a 30 year old. Other factors as well, such as their birth culture, schooling, home-life and parents factor in as well.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If a home is on fire, the firefighters do not ask if it is occupied by citizens or non-citizens. They do not evacuate the citizens, and leave the non-citizens to burn. It is almost as if resources need to be allocated to the local fire department, so they can adequately respond to fires in the homes of all residents. Gee, I wonder if that has something to do with why the constitution and federal laws require the census to count all residents, and not just citizens?

Probably why they are funded locally, just what I said and many have volunteers.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If a home is on fire, the firefighters do not ask if it is occupied by citizens or non-citizens. They do not evacuate the citizens, and leave the non-citizens to burn. It is almost as if resources need to be allocated to the local fire department, so they can adequately respond to fires in the homes of all residents. Gee, I wonder if that has something to do with why the constitution and federal laws require the census to count all residents, and not just citizens?

Yup

Originally posted by Robtard
It's both, actually, some completely assimilate into American culture, other's retain their cultural identity, while still being Americans.

The age an immigrant comes over is a large factor, as a 3year old is more like to assimilate fully into American culture than a 30 year old. Other factors as well, such as their birth culture, schooling, home-life and parents factor in as well.

And that is true but you can contribute locally if you are illegal and still not contribute federally and be viable as a person.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Probably why they are funded locally, just what I said and many have volunteers.

You know that local governments receive allocations and apportionments from the federal government, right? Their entire budgets do not come from local taxes, they receive federal funds.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You know that local governments receive allocations and apportionments from the federal government, right? Their entire budgets do not come from local taxes, they receive federal funds.

Sure it's based on population, so what does that change in the discussion?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You know that local governments receive allocations and apportionments from the federal government, right? Their entire budgets do not come from local taxes, they receive federal funds.

Originally posted by snowdragon
And that is true but you can contribute locally if you are illegal and still not contribute federally and be viable as a person.

Since "Federal" seems to be your point of contention: Undocumented immigrants can (and do) contribute federally as well. eg Some of them pay into Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, yet they will not be able to claim those benefits.

Originally posted by Robtard
Since "Federal" seems to be your point of contention: Undocumented immigrants can (and do) contribute federally as well. eg Some of them pay into Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, yet they will not be able to claim those benefits.

Don't be so pedantic it includes all things water, school, roads etc

Originally posted by snowdragon
Don't be so pedantic it includes all things water, school, roads etc


It's like you're trying to find any means to keep your failed argument afloat.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's like you're trying to find any means to keep your failed argument afloat. Yeah, snow hasn't quite reached Ethneo levels here, but it's starting to get close.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's what the 15th Amendment is for, it amended: "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude."

Doesn't mean every aspect of Article I Section II was done away with or was shit to begin with. The racist shit about slaves, Black people and "Indians", yeah, that needed to go and it did.

Okay, cool.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's like you're trying to find any means to keep your failed argument afloat.

So I said they get local representation not federal representation and that is somehow a fail. I'll chaulk this up to another "win" without evidence.

Snow is pretty Left, overall.

Originally posted by snowdragon
So I said they get local representation not federal representation and that is somehow a fail. I'll chaulk this up to another "win" without evidence.

I understand that is what you want to happen. But that's not how the census works, we count residents to get a total population count, not just citizens and as explained multiple times, the number of House Representatives is dictated by population.

edit: Look, I think it's bullshit that each state gets two Senators, when California and Texas have huge populations and Wyoming and Vermont have tiny, comparatively speaking. But it is what it is.

Originally posted by Scribble
Snow is pretty Left, overall. Nah.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Nah.

short and sweet. That's often the best response to gaslighting attempts.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
short and sweet. That's often the best response to gaslighting attempts. Agreed

lmao

Whirly, since you agree, do you genuinely believe I was just trying to make you think you are clinically insane? Since that is, after all, what "gaslighting" means, and you agreed with Bash that I was just attempting to gaslight you. Interested to know.


I genuinely think Snow is at least fairly left-wing, he's pretty big on social issues, no idea what his economic views are tbh.

Originally posted by Robtard
I understand that is what you want to happen. But that's not how the census works, we count residents to get a total population count, not just citizens and as explained multiple times, the number of House Representatives is dictated by population.

edit: Look, I think it's bullshit that each state gets two Senators, when California and Texas have huge populations and Wyoming and Vermont have tiny, comparatively speaking. But it is what it is.

Would it be more fair if New York City got to dictate gun laws for the entire country, and suddenly Vermonters or Maine aren't allowed their guns despite their relatively low gun violence rates?


Whether such a thing is even legally possible is irrelevent, I'm simply pointing out different regions have vastly different ideas of public policy. The most populous cities shouldn't speak for the rurals, and vice versa.

Originally posted by cdtm
Would it be more fair if New York City got to dictate gun laws for the entire country, and suddenly Vermonters or Maine aren't allowed their guns despite their relatively low gun violence rates?


Whether such a thing is even legally possible is irrelevent, I'm simply pointing out different regions have vastly different ideas of public policy. The most populous cities shouldn't speak for the rurals, and vice versa.


No, I don't believe NY should be able to dictate gun laws for another state. Your example is also a faulty analogy. What does that have to do with undocumented immigrants being counted in the census as they're also "residents"?

Originally posted by Robtard
No, I don't believe NY should be able to dictate gun laws for another state. Your example is also a faulty analogy. What does that have to do with undocumented immigrants being counted in the census as they're also "residents"?

I was responding more to your two senators despite bigger population.


True democracy essentially gives major metro's complete control of the country.

And New York City has far from sensible laws, in my opinion. Don't want New Yorkers running the country more then they already do economically.

Originally posted by Scribble
Whirly, since you agree, do you genuinely believe I was just trying to make you think you are clinically insane? Since that is, after all, what "gaslighting" means, and you agreed with Bash that I was just attempting to gaslight you. Interested to know.


I genuinely think Snow is at least fairly left-wing, he's pretty big on social issues, no idea what his economic views are tbh.

Covert narcissists have zero self awareness, which leads to projection.

It's why they think everyone else is constantly trying to do what they are.

They don't actually think you're gaslighting, they know they're gaslighting then putting that on you so they can punish you instead of themselves, while claiming victimhood.

It creates what's known as an invincible victim, which is the worse kind of bully.

I recommend ifs or CBT to all those who think everyone is always gaslighting.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Covert narcissists have zero self awareness, which leads to projection.

It's why they think everyone else is constantly trying to do what they are.

They don't actually think you're gaslighting, they know they're gaslighting then putting that on you so they can punish you instead of themselves, while claiming victimhood.

It creates what's known as an invincible victim, which is the worse kind of bully.

I recommend ifs or CBT to all those who think everyone is always gaslighting.

nah

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
nah

Are you denying the existence of covert narcissism ?
Or that they use victim blaming and blame shifting ?
Or that I recommend to them CBT or ifs therapy ?

I wasn't pointing the finger at any one here, but it's interesting you took a defensive response, which is also a tool of the narc.

must we split turds?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
must we split turds?

Adam Poe says yes.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Adam Poe says yes.

Nah.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Nah.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
nah

More evidence of the left wing echo chamber.

Pfft typical

Originally posted by ilikecomics
More evidence of the left wing echo chamber.

Pfft typical

Go back to your Dischord!

Originally posted by ilikecomics
More evidence of the left wing echo chamber.

Pfft typical

Yup.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
More evidence of the left wing echo chamber.

Pfft typical Nah

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/14/politics/ice-terminates-trump-era-voice/index.html

ICE announced on Friday that it was shuttering the Victim of Immigration Crime Engagement office and replacing it with a new program to provide victim support regardless of immigration status of the victim or perpetrator.
"All people, regardless of their immigration status, should be able to access victim services without fear," Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said in a statement.
Acting ICE Director Tae Johnson echoed those comments, saying that ICE is "committed to serving all victims of crime."
The Trump administration launched the victim support office in April 2017 as a fulfillment of the then-President's executive order on immigration. Formation of the office followed Trump's repeated public comments linking immigrants and criminals, most notably a speech in which he referred to Mexicans as criminals and "rapists."
Critics said at the time that the office was part of several measures that would skew public opinion against immigrants

Good!

"All people, regardless of their immigration status, should be able to access victim services without fear" -snip


Absolutely

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Go back to your Dischord! disc horde?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Go back to your Dischord!

Go back to your coprophagia fetishist sites. Just because sh*t goes in your mouth doesn't mean that's what has to come out.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Go back to your coprophagia fetishist sites. Just because sh*t goes in your mouth doesn't mean that's what has to come out.

I know I am irresisitible, but try not to project your fantasies on me.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/14/politics/ice-terminates-trump-era-voice/index.html



followed Trump's repeated public comments linking immigrants and criminals, most notably a speech in which he referred to Mexicans as criminals and "rapists."
Critics said at the time that the office was part of several measures that would skew public opinion against immigrants.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uCrA7ePno

🐶

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Go back to your coprophagia fetishist sites. Just because sh*t goes in your mouth doesn't mean that's what has to come out.



Accusing gay men of being fecal eaters is an old homophobic tactic, very poor form out of you. Try coming at Adam with facts instead of nonsense arguments.


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