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*yawn*


Troll thread.

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"Oh no, Discord is grooming kids to think that socialism/communism is a shitty ideology and that CRT is bad and that it is ok to be white and that immgration laws should be enforced and that people have a 2nd amendment right to bear arms and a right to protest an election that they know damn well was stolen and that people have a right to refuse vaccines if they so choose!"

"This is just unacceptable!! How are we supposed to brainwash and/or indoctrinate them when they have free reign to exercise their free speech like that?!! Shut that shit down and throw them all in the Gulag for 're-education'!!"-- commie leftists

This was you concerning the Discord, yeah?

Originally posted by Robtard
From what I've been told and shown, it's a toxic dump of anger, doxxing and rage nonsense. Which is not surprising, since Broly is the admin.

But your safe space is yours to enjoy, so enjoy. Just the begging people to go there is kinda silly. Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I can confirm after finally having had enough of it that that is the truth. At first and for a bit it seemed like a very cool place but most of the mods Broly chose were not doing their jobs and not setting good examples for everyone else.

Broly himself and Surt were doing most of the trolling and I just finally got tired of it and decided to leave the server permanently. At one point Broly actually changed my user name against my will (though he did allow me to change it back) and he even changed yours to "Robtard the Retard."

They both also seemed unable to stop talking about KMC and "the losers" on it. Though I usually felt the same way about the things they were saying about some of the posters on here I didn't see the need to constantly bring it up as they did.

I do hope the part you said about doxxing is not true though. That is crossing a line and unforgiveable. I also have no doubt that Broly will see this post and probably shit kittens over it over on his server lol.

ps Still f**king funny

Discord triggering KMC.

Glad I started it.

Originally posted by Robtard
This was you concerning the Discord, yeah?



ps Still f**king funny

Robtard the retard I have a feeling it was dadudemon

Originally posted by Blakemore
Robtard the retard I have a feeling it was dadudemon bless Doodooguy

Originally posted by Blakemore
Robtard the retard I have a feeling it was dadudemon

Most likely Broly or Surt, going from the name. I trigger them something fierce.

Originally posted by Robtard
Most likely Broly or Surt, going from the name. I trigger them something fierce. You do indeed.

Nah.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Nah. Yah

Nah.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Yah


Nah.

awww discord gang is feeling attacked personally offended baby

Lol I am not part of that "Discord gang" any longer and haven't been for a while now so clearly you are mistaken.

I just think it is funny how the fact it still exists triggers crybaby commies like you.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jul/14/mi5-investigated-rightwing-terror-suspect-who-was-13-years-old?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

First it was the internet, then video games. Now it's discord. What's going to be next, Whirly? Rock and roll? Rap music?

Originally posted by -Pr-
First it was the internet, then video games. Now it's discord. What's going to be next, Whirly? Rock and roll? Rap music? The grooming of children has always worried me on the Internet andvreal-life Pr. I think insidious people use relatively harmless crazes to hook them. I welcome MI5, the FBI and the US army in different threads over the last few years identifying the tactics these groomers use to radicalised the youth and vulnerable adults. Tbh, I think some very weird shit has been normalised over the last decade by the far right for some Internet sub cultures.

Yeah, pooty.... we know it upsets you so much that people are taught things like individualism is superior to collectivist bs and that white people are not inherently evil and that capitalism is far superior to socialism and/or communism... we get it.

A left wing websites "reporting" about an organization infested with left wing idealogues, and condoning the suppression of political rivals and legitimate dissent.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, pooty.... we know it upsets you so much that people are taught things like individualism is superior to collectivist bs and that white people are not inherently evil and that capitalism is far superior to socialism and/or communism... we get it. dur

I made all that up, I don't know anything about MI5. How was I?


But look here, they went after left wing extremes too, so its encouraging that they don't seem to play sides:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mi5-confronts-terror-threat-from-left-wing-extremists-pzwhl25xx

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
The grooming of children has always worried me on the Internet andvreal-life Pr. I think insidious people use relatively harmless crazes to hook them. I welcome MI5, the FBI and the US army in different threads over the last few years identifying the tactics these groomers use to radicalised the youth and vulnerable adults. Tbh, I think some very weird shit has been normalised over the last decade by the far right for some Internet sub cultures.

What kind of normalisation are you talking about? Because I already feel like we're not gonna see eye to eye on this, but I have to ask out of curiosity.

People thinking freely, rejecting Leftism, scares people I guess.

shit thread (topic & replies)

Originally posted by Scribble
shit thread (topic & replies)

My reply was good though.

Originally posted by Klaw
My reply was good though. Nah, "rejecting leftism" often entails becoming a fascist, a lolbertarian, or one of those creepy trad types who think crawling back into history's womb will save them from Der Gaytranz.


Even just from a personal perspective (before getting into the absurdity of right-wing economic models), the more people who "turn right" = the more chance I have of being murdered in the street, so yeah, not really a fan of any form of right-wing politics.


I'd rather be surrounded by moron leftists than insane conservatives and fascists, tbh. Although, as seen on this forum and other venues (TERFism on Twitter, for example), leftism has its fair share of people who'd like to see people like me killed, too.

Originally posted by Scribble
Nah, "rejecting leftism" often entails becoming a fascist, a lolbertarian, or one of those creepy trad types who think crawling back into history's womb will save them from Der Gaytranz.


Even just from a personal perspective (before getting into the absurdity of right-wing economic models), the more people who "turn right" = the more chance I have of being murdered in the street, so yeah, not really a fan of any form of right-wing politics.


I'd rather be surrounded by moron leftists than insane conservatives and fascists, tbh. Although, as seen on this forum and other venues (TERFism on Twitter, for example), leftism has its fair share of people who'd like to see people like me killed, too.


If you really think that, you're every bit the cool-aid drinker you think they are.


Whirl's actually a really good example of a provocataur leftist. The left is FULL of such types.

Originally posted by cdtm
If you really think that, you're every bit the cool-aid drinker you think they are.


Whirl's actually a really good example of a provocataur leftist. The left is FULL of such types.

yup

Originally posted by -Pr-
What kind of normalisation are you talking about? Because I already feel like we're not gonna see eye to eye on this, but I have to ask out of curiosity. will post later, only skiving from stressful meetings for a few minutes here

Originally posted by Scribble
Nah, "rejecting leftism" often entails becoming a fascist, a lolbertarian, or one of those creepy trad types who think crawling back into history's womb will save them from Der Gaytranz.


Even just from a personal perspective (before getting into the absurdity of right-wing economic models), the more people who "turn right" = the more chance I have of being murdered in the street, so yeah, not really a fan of any form of right-wing politics.


I'd rather be surrounded by moron leftists than insane conservatives and fascists, tbh. Although, as seen on this forum and other venues (TERFism on Twitter, for example), leftism has its fair share of people who'd like to see people like me killed, too.

For the record, I don't want to see you killed. 👍

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
For the record, I don't want to see you killed. 👍 I appreciate that, lol majors

Left, right it doesn't matter other than to point a finger and name call.

Originally posted by cdtm
If you really think that, you're every bit the cool-aid drinker you think they are.


Whirl's actually a really good example of a provocataur leftist. The left is FULL of such types.


Yeah, only a retard would think rejecting leftist bs makes one a fascist. Especially considering the fact that fascism is actually left wing. It's authoritarian.. That alone puts it on the left, though not as far left as totalitarian communism obviously.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Left, right it doesn't matter other than to point a finger and name call. nah it really does matter tbh, like quite a lot,

Originally posted by Scribble
nah it really does matter tbh, like quite a lot,

You think so, maybe. I mean i get labeled as right on these forums so perhaps I'm just not seeing things your way.

Originally posted by snowdragon
You think so, maybe. I mean i get labeled as right on these forums so perhaps I'm just not seeing things your way. could be because you aren't part of a group who the right-wing specifically disagree with the very existence of and want to annihilate, idk who knows, maybe,

@snowd

iirc, you've told me you're a Conservative. That would be "Right" in the political spectrum.


Now I do get you've been called "Far-Right" and such, which doesn't seem to be true.

Originally posted by snowdragon
You think so, maybe. I mean i get labeled as right on these forums so perhaps I'm just not seeing things your way.


Perhaps in order to see things his way you should start wearing women's clothing and call yourself a "she" lol. Maybe that will give you the proper perspective.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, only a retard would think rejecting leftist bs makes one a fascist. Especially considering the fact that fascism is actually left wing. It's authoritarian.. That alone puts it on the left, though not as far left as totalitarian communism obviously.

The irony of that post when you have Margaret Thatcher of all people in your sig is... well, it's funny.

It's left wing.... nothing you say will convince me otherwise.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Perhaps in order to see things his way you should start wearing women's clothing and call yourself a "she" lol. Maybe that will give you the proper perspective. this guy has me on ignore and still talks smack, smh haermm

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
It's left wing.... nothing you say will convince me otherwise.

Yeah, because being unwilling to listen is totally a positive personality trait.

I have always said that communism, fascism, and naziism are all sister ideologies. They are all authoritarian, they all value the collective more than individuals and their rights, and they are all big government. They are not on opposite ends of the spectrum, sorry.


Maybe they are the opposite of each other with how europeans see the spectrum, but that is a f***ed-up way of looking at it.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I have always said that communism, fascism, and naziism are all sister ideologies. They are all authoritarian, they all value the collective more than individuals and their rights, and they are all big government. They are not on opposite ends of the spectrum, sorry. haermm

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I have always said that communism, fascism, and naziism are all sister ideologies. They are all authoritarian, they all value the collective more than individuals and their rights, and they are all big government. They are not on opposite ends of the spectrum, sorry.


Maybe they are the opposite of each other with how europeans see the spectrum, but that is a f***ed-up way of looking at it.

If they weren't the opposite of each other in actual practice too, you might have a point. But they are.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, only a retard would think rejecting leftist bs makes one a fascist. Especially considering the fact that fascism is actually left wing. It's authoritarian.. That alone puts it on the left, though not as far left as totalitarian communism obviously.

Trying to coerce a justice department under your executive power to target journalists who say mean things about you seems pretty authoritarian to me.

Originally posted by -Pr-
What kind of normalisation are you talking about? Because I already feel like we're not gonna see eye to eye on this, but I have to ask out of curiosity. O.K. I finally have time for a coherant answer for this Pr. Firstly, I think political grooming and sexual grooming are not that different in aims and outcomes. I think a Paedo and an alt-right groomer on a gaming site use many of the same techniques. The outcome for one is dirty chat the full implications are not understood by the child young person. videos and perhaps meeting. The outcome for the other is illicit chat the full implications are not understood by the child young person. propagation of radical ideas and perhaps meeting. Sexualising a child and Radicalising a child are proably very similar. Adults mixing with children without a chaperone is rarely a good idea. What is abnormal is easy to make normal without a framework. Ideas which are sick are easy to normalise in safe spaces. If you propagate a disgust idea enough and fight for it strongly enough it becomes the norm within a group particularly if the older leaders propagate said ideas.

That's all speculation on your part my friend.


When we have actual proof of left wing grooming, such as attempts to normalize "leatherslaves" and other sexual inuendo with children.

Originally posted by cdtm
That's all speculation on your part my friend.


When we have actual proof of left wing grooming, such as attempts to normalize "leatherslaves" and other sexual inuendo with children. durwank No, it's my observation, leading me to the same conclusion as MI5 who provide proof.

Originally posted by cdtm
That's all speculation on your part my friend.


When we have actual proof of left wing grooming, such as attempts to normalize "leatherslaves" and other sexual inuendo with children.




Yeah like pedophilia lol.

Not to mention how they try to normalize toxic ideologies like marxism lol. Fffs, they are actually brainwashing kids to become racist with this crt crap.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
O.K. I finally have time for a coherant answer for this Pr. Firstly, I think political grooming and sexual grooming are not that different in aims and outcomes. I think a Paedo and an alt-right groomer on a gaming site use many of the same techniques. The outcome for one is dirty chat the full implications are not understood by the child young person. videos and perhaps meeting. The outcome for the other is illicit chat the full implications are not understood by the child young person. propagation of radical ideas and perhaps meeting. Sexualising a child and Radicalising a child are proably very similar. Adults mixing with children without a chaperone is rarely a good idea. What is abnormal is easy to make normal without a framework. Ideas which are sick are easy to normalise in safe spaces. If you propagate a disgust idea enough and fight for it strongly enough it becomes the norm within a group particularly if the older leaders propagate said ideas.

Originally posted by cdtm
That's all speculation on your part my friend.


When we have actual proof of left wing grooming, such as attempts to normalize "leatherslaves" and other sexual inuendo with children.

Lots of people groom. Lots of people indoctrinate. Yes, it does happen on what we would call both sides of the spectrum.

It being "normalised" though? No. Not when society at large still rejects it.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
durwank No, it's my observation, leading me to the same conclusion as MI5 who provide proof.

James Bond is a Conservative

Originally posted by -Pr-
Lots of people groom. Lots of people indoctrinate. Yes, it does happen on what we would call both sides of the spectrum.

It being "normalised" though? No. Not when society at large still rejects it. Ahh, whilst Society at large rejects it, deviant sub cultures grow and within their ranks it appears normalised. Remember the obvious racism that went on here in the mostly deleted KMC "CULTURE WAR".

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Ahh, whilst Society at large rejects it, deviant sub cultures grow and within their ranks it appears normalised. Remember the obvious racism that went on here in the mostly deleted KMC "CULTURE WAR".

When you have to say "within x group", and that group is an obvious minority, that honestly kills any argument of it being normalised. To me at least.

Which time? We get a lot of racism and intolerance.

Originally posted by -Pr-
When you have to say "within x group", and that group is an obvious minority, that honestly kills any argument of it being normalised. To me at least.

Which time? We get a lot of racism and intolerance. I'm going to disagree because a constant push of a narrative normalises it to be discussed in all groups. Q is an example of this as are anti vaxxers. Jan 6 and it's online support from many young video gamers is the kind of outcome expected by the promoters/groomers. Youtube algorithms even lock them in and drag them down the rabbit hole.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I'm going to disagree because a constant push of a narrative normalises it to be discussed in all groups. Q is an example of this as are anti vaxxers. Jan 6 and it's online support from many young video gamers is the kind of outcome expected by the promoters/groomers. Youtube algorithms even lock them in and drag them down the rabbit hole.

You can discuss anything, as long as you condemn the things that should be condemned. And I think people generally do do that. That prevents it being normalised outside those groups.

Inside those groups? The KKK thinking racism is nifty doesn't normalise shit for the rest of society, so I don't see what the issue is as long as they're rightfully condemned by the people that should be doing it.

"Many young gamers" is really disingenuous, tbh. And it just sounds like you're looking for a boogeyman when any "gamers" that supported Jan 6th are a relatively tiny minority.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You can discuss anything, as long as you condemn the things that should be condemned. And I think people generally do do that. That prevents it being normalised outside those groups.

Inside those groups? The KKK thinking racism is nifty doesn't normalise shit for the rest of society, so I don't see what the issue is as long as they're rightfully condemned by the people that should be doing it.

"Many young gamers" is really disingenuous, tbh. And it just sounds like you're looking for a boogeyman when any "gamers" that supported Jan 6th are a relatively tiny minority. But how often do we see it rejected when say a member posts something racist in the comics section and a small group jump on it, very rarely is it confronted.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
But how often do we see it rejected when say a member posts something racist in the comics section and a small group jump on it, very rarely is it confronted.

If it's bad enough and we see it, it gets confronted. The question is what is and isn't bad enough. That's not always so clear. What's offensive to you might not be offensive to me, and what's offensive to me might not be offensive to you.

I'm not going to say we're perfect. We're not. But we try.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If it's bad enough and we see it, it gets confronted. The question is what is and isn't bad enough. That's not always so clear. What's offensive to you might not be offensive to me, and what's offensive to me might not be offensive to you.

I'm not going to say we're perfect. We're not. But we try. I'm not getting at the mods and Policing I'm getting at (I admit this) the tacit normalised misogyny and racism prevalent on the internet. It wasn't this way 15 years ago, or even four. These people became further empowered to spread their vileness through support of Trump and Boris among the English speaking world. With the excuse they are only joking. The young are particularly susceptible to this collective humour.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I'm not getting at the mods and Policing I'm getting at (I admit this) the tacit normalised misogyny and racism prevalent on the internet. It wasn't this way 15 years ago, or even four. These people became further empowered to spread their vileness through support of Trump and Boris among the English speaking world. With the excuse they are only joking. The young are particularly susceptible to this collective humour.

What you're talking about is a consequence of the internet in general. We can't have all of this positive "bringing people together" stuff without the negative. Social media has contributed massively to this, but again, that's a "you can't have the good without the bad without seriously hamstringing the good" thing.

The young are impressionable. Yes. That's been true since the dawn of time. But acting like it's the government's job to fix it is dodgy, imo. It's parents. It's schools. It's society as a whole that needs to be better. You won't get there through mass surveillance and invasions of privacy, which is what bringing in government entities like this inevitably leads to.

Originally posted by -Pr-
What you're talking about is a consequence of the internet in general. We can't have all of this positive "bringing people together" stuff without the negative. Social media has contributed massively to this, but again, that's a "you can't have the good without the bad without seriously hamstringing the good" thing.

The young are impressionable. Yes. That's been true since the dawn of time. But acting like it's the government's job to fix it is dodgy, imo. It's parents. It's schools. It's society as a whole that needs to be better. You won't get there through mass surveillance and invasions of privacy, which is what bringing in government entities like this inevitably leads to. People couldn't be in the youngsters bedroom until recently giving then ideas they keep secret from their parents in formative years.

I question positivity from social media. I question it brings anyone together.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I'm not getting at the mods and Policing I'm getting at (I admit this) the tacit normalised misogyny and racism prevalent on the internet. It wasn't this way 15 years ago, or even four. These people became further empowered to spread their vileness through support of Trump and Boris among the English speaking world. With the excuse they are only joking. The young are particularly susceptible to this collective humour.





Man, if you think that you haven't known a lot of Americans.


I can remember being in a single file line as a single digit kid way back in the late 1980's and the boys going "GRAB HER ASS!"

Originally posted by cdtm



Man, if you think that you haven't known a lot of Americans.


I can remember being in a single file line as a single digit kid way back in the late 1980's and the boys going "GRAB HER ASS!" Not what's being discussed, back to topic.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
People couldn't be in the youngsters bedroom until recently giving then ideas they keep secret from their parents in formative years.

I question positivity from social media. I question it brings anyone together.

Are you kidding me gangsta rap and video games were on that track before the rise of the internet

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
People couldn't be in the youngsters bedroom until recently giving then ideas they keep secret from their parents in formative years.

I question positivity from social media. I question it brings anyone together.

Right. That's the effect of the internet I was talking about.

You don't use it to keep in touch with relatives or friends in other countries? Using Facebook, shite that it is, is still much easier than having to use, say, the phone. Or write letters. Social media does a lot of bad shit too, and the companies are essentially the devil, but like any other tool it's not inherently good or bad.

IMHO the normalization of the topic seems like the twenty-first century equivalent of "boys being boys".

"yes sir, we know adolescent boys are rambunctious and brash, now let's get back to discussing your son's participation in a gang rape"

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
IMHO the normalization of the topic seems like the twenty-first century equivalent of "boys being boys".

"yes sir, we know adolescent boys are rambunctious and brash, now let's get back to discussing your son's participation in a gang rape"

Anyone who uses the "boys will be boys" defence for anything more than the shit five years olds do on the playground needs a kick in the teeth.

it's nice that we can agree on some things.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Right. That's the effect of the internet I was talking about.

You don't use it to keep in touch with relatives or friends in other countries? Using Facebook, shite that it is, is still much easier than having to use, say, the phone. Or write letters. Social media does a lot of bad shit too, and the companies are essentially the devil, but like any other tool it's not inherently good or bad. WhatsApp and Skype are all I use I also have an excellent VOIP. Haven't used Facebook for 7 years now.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it's nice that we can agree on some things.



Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
WhatsApp and Skype are all I use I also have an excellent VOIP. Haven't used Facebook for 7 years now.

Right. So remember when you had a landline? And you had to keep a little notebook with all your phone numbers in it? And the whole issue with only one person being able to use it at a time? And then when the internet came along, you couldn't use the phone and it at the same time? Then remember how good it was that mobile phones came along and you could store all your contacts in that phone for easy texting?

I honestly think that social media, as a concept, is just an extension of that. It's just been used, or rather, abused, to become something it really shouldn't be,

I disagree about the relevance of facebook being inherently good/bad/neutral. if people are allowed to broadcast dangerous material, unmoderated, they were enabled to do so by the site owners. if someone hung a nazi flag on a restaurant wall, and the proprietor just left it flying on their wall for months, I think opinions would be different

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Not what's being discussed, back to topic.

You just said the internet is corrupting impressionable young youth with misogynies.

And I'm telling you in my experiences, which come well before the internet was a thing in every home, misogyny was about as common as turning random sticks into guns in play.

Your "groomers" are probably mostly 9 and 10 year old kids themselves.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I disagree about the relevance of facebook being inherently good/bad/neutral. if people are allowed to broadcast dangerous material, unmoderated, they were enabled to do so by the site owners. if someone hung a nazi flag on a restaurant wall, and the proprietor just left it flying on their wall for months, I think opinions would be different


I knew a guy who actually did that. Nobody really cared, his place his rules.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I disagree about the relevance of facebook being inherently good/bad/neutral. if people are allowed to broadcast dangerous material, unmoderated, they were enabled to do so by the site owners. if someone hung a nazi flag on a restaurant wall, and the proprietor just left it flying on their wall for months, I think opinions would be different

Not sure I see what you mean.

Facebook as a site is one thing. The behaviour of the people that run it is another. And again, what you consider dangerous or offensive isn't always going to be what I might. Sure, there are the extremes that everyone can agree are shitty, but they're not the only kind of objectionable content.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I disagree about the relevance of facebook being inherently good/bad/neutral. if people are allowed to broadcast dangerous material, unmoderated, they were enabled to do so by the site owners. if someone hung a nazi flag on a restaurant wall, and the proprietor just left it flying on their wall for months, I think opinions would be different

Originally posted by -Pr-




Right. So remember when you had a landline? And you had to keep a little notebook with all your phone numbers in it? And the whole issue with only one person being able to use it at a time? And then when the internet came along, you couldn't use the phone and it at the same time? Then remember how good it was that mobile phones came along and you could store all your contacts in that phone for easy texting?

I honestly think that social media, as a concept, is just an extension of that. It's just been used, or rather, abused, to become something it really shouldn't be, As soon as I understood Facebooks issues I left it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not sure I see what you mean.

Facebook as a site is one thing. The behaviour of the people that run it is another. And again, what you consider dangerous or offensive isn't always going to be what I might. Sure, there are the extremes that everyone can agree are shitty, but they're not the only kind of objectionable content.

I mistook your point, then. though I must confess I still don't get your actual point. the scenario I made up was only intended to point out the futility of judging social media as a concept. Let's say that it was instead a sign hung that said "kill all the *insert minority or religious group*". the restaurant is just a restaurant. walls, tables, a big kitchen, servers serving food. nothing inherently evil. so the solution is moderation, not elimination. Is that your point? I'd agree, but no half measures will suffice

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
As soon as I understood Facebooks issues I left it.

I'm skeptical of that shit in general. If I have to use it (social media i mean), it's only to make keeping in touch easier. I don't do anything else with it.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I mistook your point, then. though I must confess I still don't get your actual point. the scenario I made up was only intended to point out the futility of judging social media as a concept. Let's say that it was instead a sign hung that said "kill all the *insert minority or religious group*". the restaurant is just a restaurant. walls, tables, a big kitchen, servers serving food. nothing inherently evil. so the solution is moderation, not elimination. Is that your point? I'd agree, but no half measures will suffice

I agree to an extent yes. The degree of moderation would probably be a point of contention, but on principle I agree, yeah. Sorry if I didn't seem to be following.