Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.

Which character(s) can accomplish these feats by pure strength?

1 Closing a black hole/a tear in space that would have destroyed earth
https://ibb.co/4KtgJBq
https://ibb.co/SQMs8GS
https://ibb.co/ZfvBkPH
https://ibb.co/BrRY7Ym

2 Breaking free from full chrono suspension
https://imgur.com/7AtnZxo

3 Plowing through Mxy's infinite planet/reality
https://ibb.co/pdcgBk2
https://ibb.co/bX2h7Zf
https://ibb.co/r4FX4ND

4 Punching out a time loop that was created by weaponized hypertime
https://ibb.co/xz2GgLj
https://ibb.co/tJYbLqG
https://ibb.co/hRC5sV6
https://ibb.co/KWtTkRP
https://ibb.co/kJs05CW
https://ibb.co/wzRkjqQ
https://ibb.co/dQ7v5bx
https://ibb.co/k4TVtsr
https://ibb.co/ZLHqb3j
https://ibb.co/8zptJJd

No one at high herald level.

Hulk or Thor. Hercules as well imo

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk or Thor. Hercules as well imo I'm surprised you didn't include Glads and Sentry, Lol.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk or Thor. Hercules as well imo
Hercules can do these? Scans?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Hercules can do these? Scans?

Beyonder, the most powerful being in Marvel comics...

https://m.imgur.com/a/eqwgA2R

Power between Thor and Hercules punch had enough force to shatter worlds...

https://i.imgur.com/rNlvCyC.jpg

Holds the heavens...

https://m.imgur.com/a/z2SEYTj

Him and Roberto lift a world...

https://m.imgur.com/a/HRF3v1v

Generates enough force to knock the planet off orbit...

https://m.imgur.com/a/D2fekhF

Originally posted by carver9
Beyonder, the most powerful being in Marvel comics...

https://m.imgur.com/a/eqwgA2R

Power between Thor and Hercules punch had enough force to shatter worlds...

https://i.imgur.com/rNlvCyC.jpg

Holds the heavens...

https://m.imgur.com/a/z2SEYTj

Him and Roberto lift a world...

https://m.imgur.com/a/HRF3v1v

Generates enough force to knock the planet off orbit...

https://m.imgur.com/a/D2fekhF
So no scans to show Hercules doing exotic strength feats barring the heavens lifting feat. And even said feat is irrelevant to OP's feats

I mean sure, Hercules is powerful, But can he do these exotic feats by pure strength?

1 Closing a hole in space that could suck entire earth
2 Resisting and Breaking time stop
3 Breaking a reality warping/erasing
4 Punching through a time loop

All of these are not really "physical" you could say. So arguing Hercules can do this by pure strength based on he can move planets or something is pretty iffy imo

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So no scans to show Hercules doing exotic strength feats barring the heavens lifting feat. And even said feat is irrelevant to OP's feats

I mean sure, Hercules is powerful, But can he do these exotic feats by pure strength?

1 Closing a hole in space that could suck entire earth
2 Resisting and Breaking time stop
3 Breaking a reality warping/erasing
4 Punching through a time loop

All of these are not really "physical" you could say. So arguing Hercules can do this by pure strength based on he can move planets or something is pretty iffy imo



The punch he did with Thor closed a mystical doorway. That's exotic.

Also, the first ft is boo boo and the 3rd ft is sus.

Originally posted by carver9
The punch he did with Thor closed a mystical doorway. That's exotic. So even we assuming the mystical doorway is something similar to a hole in space that could suck entire earth. There are still three feats to go

Originally posted by carver9
Also, the first ft is boo boo and the 3rd ft is sus.
Because.....?

I can see Hulk doing at least a couple of these given how stupid they write his powers sometimes. He might be able to smash a time loop or something.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Because.....?

If it was a true black hole, this man would've turned to paste the moment it opened. The room would've been destroyed. It didn't have the properties of a black hole. Then the tables and stuff that was thrown into space is just sitting in space with no damage. It's nothing.

https://ibb.co/SQMs8GS

3rd panel, table and other pieces of furniture is in space...

https://imgbb.com/ZfvBkPH

Is this a strength ft?

https://ibb.co/r4FX4ND

I think you're making something bigger than what it is.

I didn't even look at the last ft.

Originally posted by carver9
If it was a true black hole, this man would've turned to paste the moment it opened. The room would've been destroyed. It didn't have the properties of a black hole. Then the tables and stuff that was thrown into space is just sitting in space with no damage. It's nothing.

https://ibb.co/SQMs8GS

3rd panel, table and other pieces of furniture is in space...

https://imgbb.com/ZfvBkPH

Is this a strength ft?

https://ibb.co/r4FX4ND

I think you're making something bigger than what it is.

I didn't even look at the last ft.
So its a tear/hole in space which enough force that could suck entire earth, Like the scans you posted lol

Read my posts and scans again
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Which character(s) can accomplish these feats by pure strength?

1 Closing a black hole/a tear in space that would have destroyed earth
https://ibb.co/4KtgJBq
https://ibb.co/SQMs8GS
https://ibb.co/ZfvBkPH
https://ibb.co/BrRY7Ym



Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

1 Closing a hole in space that could suck entire earth


So Im basically asking you naming character(s) that can close a hole in space which could suck/destroy entire earth by pure strength.

Sure, You can disagree with black hole part and that is why I used a forward slash since I think this part depends on interpretation

But the undeniable part is THE TEAR IN SPACE HAS ENOUGH FORCE TO SUCK ENTIRE PLANET, And Superman used his strength to counter said force and close the tear

The hole in space is already shimering open
https://imgbb.com/4KtgJBq

Sucking the entire planet out there....Sending it careening across the cosmos like some forty million-mile long strand of dead matter
https://ibb.co/SQMs8GS

The suction power is beyond belief!..... He's plugging it up...He's breaking the very laws of nature to save the earth
https://imgbb.com/ZfvBkPH

So no, It isnt nothing


Ehhh, Why it isnt? Or are you trying to say Superman has some habit walking through doors fist first, accompanied by the sound of breaking and shattered fragments?

Originally posted by carver9
If it was a true black hole, this man would've turned to paste the moment it opened. The room would've been destroyed. It didn't have the properties of a black hole. Then the tables and stuff that was thrown into space is just sitting in space with no damage. It's nothing.

https://ibb.co/SQMs8GS

3rd panel, table and other pieces of furniture is in space...

https://imgbb.com/ZfvBkPH

Is this a strength ft?

https://ibb.co/r4FX4ND

I think you're making something bigger than what it is.

I didn't even look at the last ft.

Nice, collateral damage arguments.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So its a tear/hole in space which enough force that could suck entire earth, Like the scans you posted lol

Read my posts and scans again




So Im basically asking you naming character(s) that can close a hole in space which could suck/destroy entire earth by pure strength.

Sure, You can disagree with black hole part and that is why I used a forward slash since I think this part depends on interpretation

But the undeniable part is THE TEAR IN SPACE HAS ENOUGH FORCE TO SUCK ENTIRE PLANET, And Superman used his strength to counter said force and close the tear

The hole in space is already shimering open
https://imgbb.com/4KtgJBq

Sucking the entire planet out there....Sending it careening across the cosmos like some forty million-mile long strand of dead matter
https://ibb.co/SQMs8GS

The suction power is beyond belief!..... He's plugging it up...He's breaking the very laws of nature to save the earth
https://imgbb.com/ZfvBkPH

So no, It isnt nothing


Ehhh, Why it isnt? Or are you trying to say Superman has some habit walking through doors fist first, accompanied by the sound of breaking and shattered fragments?

It was sucking tables in. I'm sure if it just sat there over time, it would probably destroy everything. Wonder how much time that would've taken because that hole isn't as threatening as you're making it. The answer to that question is either of us don't know. We don't know if it can be gripped by anybody and since that hole was weak AF, I feel certain anyone with planetary strength (continent, city level, mountain level) can close the hole. Example, Wonder Woman close a rift in the phantom Zone that Mongul couldn't close (yes, he was hurt by Doomsday) and a Kryptonian couldn't close. The rift was powerful enough to destroy the entire Phantom Zone. Am I suppose to say Hercules can't achieve this either?

https://m.imgur.com/a/t89rE6X

Also, this ft is more impressive than anything you've posted.

Superman flew through a door. What's the issue number?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nice, collateral damage arguments.

Thanks.

Originally posted by carver9
Thanks.

Let me know next time Hulk comes up. His pants are, as always, the issue.

Originally posted by carver9
It was sucking tables in. I'm sure if it just sat there over time, it would probably destroy everything. Wonder how much time that would've taken because that hole isn't as threatening as you're making it. The answer to that question is either of us don't know. We don't know if it can be gripped by anybody and since that hole was weak AF, I feel certain anyone with planetary strength (continent, city level, mountain level) can close the hole. Example, Wonder Woman close a rift in the phantom Zone that Mongul couldn't close (yes, he was hurt by Doomsday) and a Kryptonian couldn't close. The rift was powerful enough to destroy the entire Phantom Zone. Am I suppose to say Hercules can't achieve this either?

https://m.imgur.com/a/t89rE6X

Also, this ft is more impressive than anything you've posted.

Superman flew through a door. What's the issue number?

So what are you trying to argue is this tear was weak due to we dont know how much time it would take to destroy earth and some collateral damage arguments?

Lets ingore the fact Superman needs to act quickly to stop this hole before it could destroy earth
https://ibb.co/SQMs8GS

Lets look at the picture you posted
https://imgur.com/rNlvCyC

how much force did Hercules contribute here? And how much damage did the combined force of Hercules and Thor cause?

Superman 19. And ironically( Or typically in your case) you had the same argument with Galan years ago
Originally posted by Galan007
There's not a door there, bud. srsly

That hole between Thor and Hercules looks weak; the grass behind Hercules isn't even ruffled.

Carver's collateral damage arguments are great.

Its really funny Carver trying to use the same old arguments which were rebutted multiple times

I mean
Originally posted by carver9
I'm talking about the door Superman flew threw when he was concentrating. Lois guided him via her voice and they came through a door afterwards. I'm asking you the difference between both showings.
Originally posted by Galan007
There's not a door there, bud. srsly
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I know, it's the same thing that I posted in both scans.
Originally posted by Galan007
Most times you're wrong... But sometimes you're really wrong.

Mxy's Infinite Planet couldn't be more dissimilar from Marvel's Crossroads, lol. If I were a betting man, I'd say that your only agenda here is trying to 'prove' that Hulk can duplicate Superman's feat... Which would be unbelievably stupid of you.

I recommend you just stop now. This will only end with you looking even worse than you already tend to.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...no, that's not my agenda because I would've shown Hulk jumping through the portal. I'm trying to figure out the showing you keep bringing up and the difference between both scans I posted. You're not explaining anything though; you're more on the defense like I'm attacking you when I'm not. Superman concentrated and heard exactly where Lois was based off her guiding him. She latch on to him and they go through a portal door.

I'm asking you to tell me if you got something other than what I just said and if so, what did you get from it.
Originally posted by Galan007
Lol. I like how you try to play the faux-innocent card when everyone can see that you were CLEARLY trying to draw parallels between Hulk and Superman, by way of comparing the Crossroads to Mxy's Infinite Planet... Only now, AFTER I called you on your bullshit, are you trying to backpedal.

Annnnyway...
One more time for the daft among us: Superman, using Lois' voice as a beacon of sorts, shattered through multiple universal boundaries, and broke free of Mxy's game/trap. Simple. If you cannot understand why or how this happened, then I'm sorry, but your ability(of lack thereof) to comprehend various aspects of the plot just isn't my concern.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That hole between Thor and Hercules looks weak; the grass behind Hercules isn't even ruffled.

Carver's collateral damage arguments are great.

Lol... I think both holes served different purposes.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So what are you trying to argue is this tear was weak due to we dont know how much time it would take to destroy earth and some collateral damage arguments?

Lets ingore the fact Superman needs to act quickly to stop this hole before it could destroy earth
https://ibb.co/SQMs8GS

Lets look at the picture you posted
https://imgur.com/rNlvCyC

how much force did Hercules contribute here? And how much damage did the combined force of Hercules and Thor cause?

Superman 19. And ironically( Or typically in your case) you had the same argument with Galan years ago

Yep, the hole appears extremely weak. Some chairs and other pieces of furniture survived it. Am I suppose to ignore this?

Originally posted by carver9
Yep, the hole appears extremely weak. Some chairs and other pieces of furniture survived it. Am I suppose to ignore this?
So how much damage did the combined force of Hercules and Thor cause in this scan?
https://imgur.com/rNlvCyC

Hmm, Seems no damage at all. I guess Thor and Hercules are extremely weak after all

Originally posted by carver9
Yep, the hole appears extremely weak. Some chairs and other pieces of furniture survived it. Am I suppose to ignore this?

Yes.

Originally posted by carver9
Collateral damage is preschool type of debating.

Originally posted by carver9
@Squall...

I don't think you should look at the attack as a planet exploding attack, look at it as an attack coming from one of the most powerful beings in Marvel who was amped 5 times over when it happened. Imagine judging every attack off of the collateral damage displayed. Trans tiers would be meta to street level

Originally posted by carver9
Collateral damage means nothing. Displayed power is what matters. Why do you and Mr. Mind struggle at comprehending things?

Originally posted by carver9
What is JL King even talking about? Post a counter or leave the thread. What I said made perfect sense. Collateral damage doesn't equal power output. Anyone who knows anything about comics should know this.

I can keep going

Why are you all mentioning collateral damage, though?

Originally posted by carver9
Yep, the hole appears extremely weak. Some chairs and other pieces of furniture survived it. Am I suppose to ignore this?

Because you are?

Originally posted by carver9
Why are you all mentioning collateral damage, though?
Because you are the one who trying to use it to downplay?

Lets get this clear. The comic literally tells you that the tear in space would have destroyed/sucked entire earth if not for Superman closing this tear. Agree?

So how is this tear in space extremely weak/it is nothing when it has the force at planetary level ?

I mean the scans you posted claiming Wonder Woman closed a rift that could destroy the phantom zone?
"If that rift blows, Its gonna kill all of you"
https://imgur.com/a/t89rE6X

Seems like youre the one who actually making something bigger than what it is.

Gotcha... so it's an earth shattering black hole?

Originally posted by carver9
Gotcha... so it's an earth shattering black hole?
Depends on the interpretation. I would say yes It looks like a black hole( Of course if you want to be more precise, then it is a tear in space) with planetary level power

So like I posted earlier, Which character(s) can accomplish these exotic feats?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

1 Closing a hole in space that could suck entire earth
2 Resisting and Breaking time stop
3 Breaking a reality warping/erasing
4 Punching through a time loop

Carver, this you?

Originally posted by carver9
@Squall...

I don't think you should look at the attack as a planet exploding attack, look at it as an attack coming from one of the most powerful beings in Marvel who was amped 5 times over when it happened. Imagine judging every attack off of the collateral damage displayed. Trans tiers would be meta to street level

Originally posted by carver9
Beyonder, the most powerful being in Marvel comics...

https://m.imgur.com/a/eqwgA2R

Power between Thor and Hercules punch had enough force to shatter worlds...

https://i.imgur.com/rNlvCyC.jpg

Holds the heavens...

https://m.imgur.com/a/z2SEYTj

Him and Roberto lift a world...

https://m.imgur.com/a/HRF3v1v

Generates enough force to knock the planet off orbit...

https://m.imgur.com/a/D2fekhF

Beyonder weighs 200lb. He wasn't exactly unmovable.

Except they are not strong enough to shatter a planet.

Except Hercules wasn't actually holding anything (plus it was a tall tale, not something that actually happened).

Shared feat that took a long time (also a from alternate future). Weak sauce anyway.

Originally posted by h1a8
Beyonder weighs 200lb. He wasn't exactly unmovable.

Except they are not strong enough to shatter a planet.

Except Hercules wasn't actually holding anything (plus it was a tall tale, not something that actually happened).

Shared feat that took a long time (also a from alternate future). Weak sauce anyway.

Beyonder has stood in place while being hit by a blast that had enough power to destroy an infinite amount of dimensions. The ft is ridiculous that Herc pulled off.

That's not what the narrator said there. It was specifically said they could shed worlds.

Moving worlds isn't weak sauce, lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver, this you?

Are you not the same guy that use Thor getting hit in the back of the head by a Boulder to downplay him?

Originally posted by carver9
Beyonder has stood in place while being hit by a blast that had enough power to destroy an infinite amount of dimensions. The ft is ridiculous that Herc pulled off.

That's not what the narrator said there. It was specifically said they could shed worlds.

Moving worlds isn't weak sauce, lol.

Yet in that scene he was a 200lb being, nothing more.

Just so you know, blasts don't equal blunt force necessarily. Think of lasers.
Moving worlds after hours, days, etc is weak sauce in comparison to Superman's listed feats. Plus it's alternative future and don't count.

You don't make one bit of sense. Superman is a 200 pound mean, guess I can punch him across a room.

You can punch a 200 pound human being across a room?

Goddamn.

A tiny room. Extremely tiny.

@Smurph
Can make relatively limited characters have some answers to haxed powers I guess?...And it sounds cool

Originally posted by carver9
Are you not the same guy that use Thor getting hit in the back of the head by a Boulder to downplay him?

Aren't you the guy who says we don't ignore showings?

Hercules did better than Superman did while doing Atlas' job. Just putting that out there. They both held up the sky, but Superman was more worn out than Hercules was.

Originally posted by Stoic
Hercules did better than Superman did while doing Atlas' job. Just putting that out there. They both held up the sky, but Superman was more worn out than Hercules was.

Just putting out there that Superman held it for longer.

The affects of the job were evidently harder on Superman though.

Originally posted by Stoic
The affects of the job were evidently harder on Superman though.

Well....I mean, if you do work for three hours, Vs a whole day, yeah, it would be easier.

Not to mention, magic. Superman is kinda weak to that, which makes it more impressive.

He began feeling the effects immediately though.

As it's magic. If you paid attention, you'd have noticed I mentioned this.

Which makes it more impressive for Superman, and not exactly apples to oranges.

What next, you use a showing of Superman whilst he's next to Kryptonite and argue Batman is stronger? Lol.

So he can't hold magic? Thor stomps his face off.

Also, Superman mentioned the weight, not the magic...

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/11142/111426801/7475957-3909690906-image.jpg

So which is it? Is magic one of Superman's weaknesses or no?

Originally posted by carver9
You don't make one bit of sense. Superman is a 200 pound mean, guess I can punch him across a room. Originally posted by Galan007
You can punch a 200 pound human being across a room?

Goddamn. Originally posted by carver9
A tiny room. Extremely tiny.
LMAO

I dont know why the heavens lifting feat was brought up here. Like I said before this feat is completely irrelevant to OP's feats

And Im asking who can replicate OP's feats. So either 'hey, I think character X can do these, here are the scans' or 'No, I dont think character X can do this'

This isnt a Superman VS Thor or Hercules or whoever thread

Originally posted by Stoic
Hercules did better than Superman did while doing Atlas' job. Just putting that out there. They both held up the sky, but Superman was more worn out than Hercules was. Superman held it up for a day, Hercules for 3 hours. But there are some problems.
1. It was just a tale told by Hercules. Hes known for his tall tales.
2. If Hercules would have let go then nothing would have happened. I can outstretch my arms and claim to be lifting the heavens.
3. Superman's feat wasn't a function of the weight of the sky but a function of his strength. In other words, the weight varies in each lifter as Atlas was stating.


From 1 and 2 Hercules didn't lift anything really.

Originally posted by carver9
You don't make one bit of sense. Superman is a 200 pound mean, guess I can punch him across a room. You are not that strong.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman held it up for a day, Hercules for 3 hours. But there are some problems.
1. It was just a tale told by Hercules. Hes known for his tall tales.
2. If Hercules would have let go then nothing would have happened. I can outstretch my arms and claim to be lifting the heavens.
3. Superman's feat wasn't a function of the weight of the sky but a function of his strength. In other words, the weight varies in each lifter as Atlas was stating.


From 1 and 2 Hercules didn't lift anything really.

Do you have any citations that state that Hercules was day dreaming, or telling a lie about replacing Atlas?

Originally posted by h1a8
You are not that strong.

I can punch a 200 pound man off his ft. Can I do the same to Superman? Yes or no?

Originally posted by carver9
I can punch a 200 pound man off his ft. Can I do the same to Superman? Yes or no?

Not if he is using his powers to resist the punch, and because of his innate durability, you'd just end up breaking your knuckles. Superman like many other fictitious characters, defy physical laws. The Beyonder does as well.

Originally posted by carver9
I can punch a 200 pound man off his ft. Can I do the same to Superman? Yes or no?

What if you couldn't budge him in a tug of war?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What if you couldn't budge him in a tug of war?

That would mean that Carver weighed less than the 200 lb person on the other end of the rope.

Carver's link of Hercules lifting the heavens comes with a 18+ warning because of erotica.
Is he postning naughty pics?

Originally posted by Stoic
That would mean that Carver weighed less than the 200 lb person on the other end of the rope.

Lol... exactly.

Originally posted by Magnificent M
Carver's link of Hercules lifting the heavens comes with a 18+ warning because of erotica.
Is he postning naughty pics?

Lol... naah, turboimage host is just trash.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... exactly.

You have zero idea of how muscles and weight works.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You have zero idea of how muscles and weight works.

If I can't budge a 200 pound man that isn't even trying to resist me, then I'm weak AF. If I can't budge a man that is resisting me, then he is strong AF. I weigh less than 200 pounds, less than 190, so he MIGHT be stronger.

Reread my posts, lmao.

Originally posted by carver9
I can punch a 200 pound man off his ft. Can I do the same to Superman? Yes or no? I call BS. You can probably punch a 200lb man and cause him to lose balance and either fall or stagger and travel some distance. But the force of your punch can not directly carry a 200lb man off his feet (as in fly through the air). This isn't the movies Carv.

Originally posted by h1a8
I call BS. You can probably punch a 200lb man and cause him to lose balance and either fall or stagger and travel some distance. But the force of your punch can not directly carry a 200lb man off his feet (as in fly through the air). This isn't the movies Carv.

Gotcha. So I can make Superman stagger and travel some distance with a punch?

Regarding Hercules punching Beyonder...

During that entire comic, Beyonder was basically allowing the Avengers to slap him around in order to earn their gratitude:
https://ibb.co/1JNN4Cm

In the same comic, Wasp also 'caught' Beyonder, and Cap knocked him down with a shield throw:
https://ibb.co/2qZVyVp


So all context considered, Herc punching Beyonder through a few walls really isn't that impressive. It's not like Beyonder was powered up to max and giving it his all there, nor did Herc's punch harm him in the slightest. /shrug

Strange that this context was omitted.

Originally posted by carver9
Gotcha. So I can make Superman stagger and travel some distance with a punch? If he doesn't brace at all and becomes dead weight. But your hand will be injured because it would be like striking something extremely hard (not heavy though).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Strange that this context was omitted.

Wouldn't say omitted, Galan just dug a little deeper than I did.

Originally posted by h1a8
If he doesn't brace at all and becomes dead weight. But your hand will be injured because it would be like striking something extremely hard (not heavy though).

You're hilarious. No matter how strong you think I am, I can not move Superman, no human can.

Originally posted by carver9
Wouldn't say omitted, Galan just dug a little deeper than I did.

As in you just used respect threads? Tsk.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
As in you just used respect threads? Tsk.

If that's what you want to believe.

Originally posted by carver9
If that's what you want to believe.

Well the alternative is you knew full well there was context, and didn't say anything.

Tsk tsk. I'm being generous and nice to you.

Originally posted by carver9
You're hilarious. No matter how strong you think I am, I can not move Superman, no human can. You didn't read the part where I said he doesnt brace? His feet aren't glued to the ground Carv. He will either topple over or stagger with a firm push.

If Thor and Superman bump into each other, both unprepared, Superman falls over while Thor barely registers the collision. On the other hand, when Superman is prepared, even an amped savage Hulk cannot budge him (Superman immune to punches confirmed?).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dsv1H_1U0AAkNQA.jpg

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-649c8f110ee2697f66789d169442b88d

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You have zero idea of how muscles and weight works.

I need an explanation. When you've the time, tell me how stuff works.

Originally posted by Stoic
I need an explanation. When you've the time, tell me how stuff works.

It's perfectly possible to push/pull weights higher than your own bodyweight.

And that's IRL, I'm not even talking about comic physics where a 200lb man can shatter a planet by jumping off it, or whatever.

Conversely, weight alone does not denote strength.

Originally posted by Magnon
If Thor and Superman bump into each other, both unprepared, Superman falls over while Thor barely registers the collision. On the other hand, when Superman is prepared, even an amped savage Hulk cannot budge him (Superman immune to punches confirmed?).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dsv1H_1U0AAkNQA.jpg

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-649c8f110ee2697f66789d169442b88d Clark falling over isn't Superman falling over.

Originally posted by Juntai
Clark falling over isn't Superman falling over. Lol. Don't leave out that Superman had to start blocking Hulks blows and hulk was about to get strong enough to put Superman on his rear.

^

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's perfectly possible to push/pull weights higher than your own bodyweight.

And that's IRL, I'm not even talking about comic physics where a 200lb man can shatter a planet by jumping off it, or whatever.

Conversely, weight alone does not denote strength. http://www.oes.com.qa/jb/201504/a_Mike_Tyson_Prime_Vs_Bruce_Lee_Prime_.html

someone quoted a post I made here long ago when I was going through my "astner" phase. Astner/h1/Magnon would be proud! Glad I stopped with that shit.

Originally posted by JBL
Lol. Don't leave out that Superman had to start blocking Hulks blows and hulk was about to get strong enough to put Superman on his rear. Superman can be moved by someone sufficiently strong enough, sure.

But that has nothing to do with my point. Clark is a clumsy goof. It's his character.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
http://www.oes.com.qa/jb/201504/a_Mike_Tyson_Prime_Vs_Bruce_Lee_Prime_.html

someone quoted a post I made here long ago when I was going through my "astner" phase. Astner/h1/Magnon would be proud! Glad I stopped with that shit. Tyson would beat the **** out of Bruce. I love Bruce Lee. I have his flicks on dvd and bluray still, and my copy of the Tao off Jeet Kune Do sitting on a book shelf in my weight room. But he's not beating Tyson.

Originally posted by JBL
Lol. Don't leave out that Superman had to start blocking Hulks blows and hulk was about to get strong enough to put Superman on his rear.
Superman didn't have to start blocking Hulk's blows. Hulk was not about to get strong enough to put Superman on his rear. Superman just noticed Doom's device that was amping Hulk, so he changed his plans and took action to destroy it.

Originally posted by Magnon
Superman didn't have to start blocking Hulk's blows. Hulk was not about to get strong enough to put Superman on his rear. Superman just noticed Doom's device that was amping Hulk, so he changed his plans and took action to destroy it. Put up the scan and let's see.

Putting his arm up to block hulk's blow is right in your face if you look at the whole scan instead of drooling over Superman's image in that scan.

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman can be moved by someone sufficiently strong enough, sure.

But that has nothing to do with my point. Clark is a clumsy goof. It's his character.

Interesting how this was ignored, and instead we get taken down a completely different route.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Interesting how this was ignored, and instead we get taken down a completely different route. If you knew the Clark Kent character, you would know that it's an act of him being clumsy for obvious reasons. Smh

So you are in agreement, good

It really doesn't matter. In the same book, Hulk knocked Superman TF out.