Hulk Punching Levuathan or Aquaman Surfacing Sub

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tkitna
Which feat is better?

tkitna
Had a typo in the title. Sorry. Not sure how to edit it.

KingD19
Well clearly the Leviathan. Because one is a submarine sitting in the water offering no resistance, and which despite it's size, it is designed to be buoyant and is surrounded by water meaning moving it is very doable with the right equipment or circumstances.

The other is a gigantic, cybernetic space whale/troop carrier/battering ram/missile platform. It was flying full speed at Hulk when he punched it.

h1a8
Originally posted by KingD19
Well clearly the Leviathan. Because one is a submarine sitting in the water offering no resistance, and which despite it's size, it is designed to be buoyant and is surrounded by water meaning moving it is very doable with the right equipment or circumstances.

The other is a gigantic, cybernetic space whale/troop carrier/battering ram/missile platform. It was flying full speed at Hulk when he punched it.

Look at 3:00

https://youtu.be/pU1kngVYIh0

The feat (minus the weight) took over 560,000 tons.

Hulk's feat took less than 200 tons of force.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Look at 3:00

https://youtu.be/pU1kngVYIh0

The feat (minus the weight) took over 560,000 tons.

Hulk's feat took less than 200 tons of force.

So now you accept youtube, that means you accept this, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOLOBJSJL0I

riv6672

tkitna
Wonder what sock account H1 used to vote twice for Aquaman. Lol.

riv6672

tkitna
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h1a8
560,000 tons vs 200 tons. /thread

Silent Master
8,000,000 tons vs 56 tons. /thread.

tkitna
H1s made up numbers versus actual numbers.

Hulks feat many, many, many times superior.

ShadowFyre
If Aquaman lifted 560,000 tons H1, he would have effortlessly toss Karathen around, and he would have bulldozed Clark who has been moved multiple times by mere bullets.

But we know where you rank bullets though am I right? Billions of tons.

h1a8
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
If Aquaman lifted 560,000 tons H1, he would have effortlessly toss Karathen around, and he would have bulldozed Clark who has been moved multiple times by mere bullets.

But we know where you rank bullets though am I right? Billions of tons. Congratulations. You just discovered fiction inconsistency. A character can casually lift a half million tons in one scene (Supergirl) and struggle with shit under 100 tons in another. Doesn't stop anyone here from using a character's highest feat as the level they will operate at in a forum fight. Think of all times members argued Thor's star feat as a gauge of his durability in a forum fight.

Silent Master
Aquman's 56 ton feat isn't that impressive.

riv6672
Originally posted by ShadowFyre

But we know where you rank bullets though am I right? Billions of tons.
laughing

Darth Thor
Originally posted by h1a8
Think of all times members argued Thor's star feat as a gauge of his durability in a forum fight.


Does Thor have some super low durability feats which completely contradict the Star feat ?

tkitna
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Does Thor have some super low durability feats which completely contradict the Star feat ?

You mean like getting KO'd by a grenade launcher?

riv6672
Originally posted by tkitna
You mean like getting KO'd by a grenade launcher?
Man, we got bored once in Iraq, put on our vests, and shot each other w. Non lethal 203 rounds, to see who could take one without falling over. big grin

Darth Thor
Originally posted by tkitna
You mean like getting KO'd by a grenade launcher?


Yeah something like that would prove the Star Feat was inconsistent BS.

But I dont recall that happening to Thor hmm

FrothByte
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah something like that would prove the Star Feat was inconsistent BS.

But I dont recall that happening to Thor hmm

Heck, Thor rarely gets KO'd. The two times I recall him getting KO'd was after the Sokovia explosion and after Hulk hit him with a flying/dropping fist after he had already been dropped by the Grandmaster.

In comparison, Aquaman gets KO'd by a grenade launcher and gets fried by Manta's eye beams.

ShadowFyre
Originally posted by riv6672
Man, we got bored once in Iraq, put on our vests, and shot each other w. Non lethal 203 rounds, to see who could take one without falling over. big grin

Lol. Took a smokey to the chest?🤣🤣

riv6672

h1a8
Originally posted by FrothByte
Heck, Thor rarely gets KO'd. The two times I recall him getting KO'd was after the Sokovia explosion and after Hulk hit him with a flying/dropping fist after he had already been dropped by the Grandmaster.

In comparison, Aquaman gets KO'd by a grenade launcher and gets fried by Manta's eye beams.

The power of mantas beams is unknown. Therefore it's not a good nor bad showing by AM.
The grenade launcher showing is a low showing, but at least it caused no damage. The submarine feat contradicts that showing.

Silent Master
How does the 5.6 ton sub showing contradict it?

FrothByte
Originally posted by h1a8
The power of mantas beams is unknown. Therefore it's not a good nor bad showing by AM.
The grenade launcher showing is a low showing, but at least it caused no damage. The submarine feat contradicts that showing.

Well it certainly wasn't strong enough to destroy a city like Sokovia, which means Aquaman is nowhere near as durable as Thor.

HulkIsHulk
Originally posted by riv6672
Man, we got bored once in Iraq, put on our vests, and shot each other w. Non lethal 203 rounds, to see who could take one without falling over. big grin

If true, ouch

HulkIsHulk

Darth Thor
Originally posted by h1a8
The power of mantas beams is unknown. Therefore it's not a good nor bad showing by AM.
The grenade launcher showing is a low showing, but at least it caused no damage. The submarine feat contradicts that showing.


The submarine feat via his underwater propulsion proves nothing about his durability. So no contradiction at all.

I mean you really think the writers contradicted themselves within 5 minutes ?

Get a life and quit being a worthless internet troll.

h1a8
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well it certainly wasn't strong enough to destroy a city like Sokovia, which means Aquaman is nowhere near as durable as Thor. The beam is thin.
Thor didn't resist any attack that was capable of destroying a city. He was subjected to less than 1 millionth of the energy that destroyed the city.
AM resist over 560,000 tons. Therefore he's more durable than Thor against pressure.

h1a8
Originally posted by Darth Thor
The submarine feat via his underwater propulsion proves nothing about his durability. So no contradiction at all.

I mean you really think the writers contradicted themselves within 5 minutes ?

Get a life and quit being a worthless internet troll.

Newton's 3rd law. AM body experienced the same amount of force it exerted. I push your head into a steel door with 5 tons of force. I'm the propulsion and you are AM and the door is the sub.

Silent Master
AM's body resisting .56 tons isn't that impressive.

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
The beam is thin.
Thor didn't resist any attack that was capable of destroying a city. He was subjected to less than 1 millionth of the energy that destroyed the city.
AM resist over 560,000 tons. Therefore he's more durable than Thor against pressure.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/48923627.jpg

Darth Thor
Originally posted by h1a8
Newton's 3rd law. AM body experienced the same amount of force it exerted. I push your head into a steel door with 5 tons of force. I'm the propulsion and you are AM and the door is the sub.


Your fake science means squat here. AM was KOd by a grenade launcher in the same damn scene.

You are either too dense to debate, or the biggest Dc troll on the interwebs.


Originally posted by h1a8
The beam is thin.
Thor didn't resist any attack that was capable of destroying a city. He was subjected to less than 1 millionth of the energy that destroyed the city.
AM resist over 560,000 tons. Therefore he's more durable than Thor against pressure.


Ill go with biggest troll.

Get a damn life.

StiltmanFTW
He is so autistic, he can't live on his own and can't function without meds.

h1a8
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Your fake science means squat here. AM was KOd by a grenade launcher in the same damn scene.

You are either too dense to debate, or the biggest Dc troll on the interwebs.





Ill go with biggest troll.

Get a damn life.

Still doesn't negate the fact that AM resisted more than 560,000 tons of force on his body. You can argue fiction inconsistency but you can't argue against that fact. Now go troll somewhere else.
As for the rest of you, you are terrible debaters. You resort to flaming attacks because you are too stupid to attack the actual argument.
That's how I know when I win.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Still doesn't negate the fact that AM resisted more than 560,000 tons of force on his body. You can argue fiction inconsistency but you can't argue against that fact.

Just like your opinion doesn't negate the fact that Thor withstood the full force of a neutron star, You can argue fiction inconsistency but you can't argue against that fact.

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
Just like your opinion doesn't negate the fact that Thor withstood the full force of a neutron star, You can argue fiction inconsistency but you can't argue against that fact.

The full figurative force which is less than 1 ton of force. Unless force means temperature.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
The full figurative force which is less than 1 ton of force. Unless force means temperature.

Not according to the science guy that has been posted numerous times, after all. if your youtuber counts, so does ours. likewise, if our youtuber doesn't count, then neither does yours.

So which is it. do both youtubers count or do neither of them count?

Darth Thor
Originally posted by h1a8
The full figurative force which is less than 1 ton of force. Unless force means temperature.


Quit being a retard.

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
Not according to the science guy that has been posted numerous times, after all. if your youtuber counts, so does ours. likewise, if our youtuber doesn't count, then neither does yours.

So which is it. do both youtubers count or do neither of them count? Heat and radiation energy is what the science guy was talking about. Not actual force. Do you even know what "force" means?

h1a8
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Quit being a retard. Proof that you are a weak debater. You attack the person, not the argument.

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
Proof that you are a weak debater. You attack the person, not the argument.

Because your argument is retarded too.

The Hulk KO'd or killed a 3 million ton beast flying at him and you think a propulsion feat of submerging a submarine is more impressive. Thats how retarded you are being. No wonder people attack you. You argue out of nothing more than DC bias and common sense is lost to you.

h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
Because your argument is retarded too.

The Hulk KO'd or killed a 3 million ton beast flying at him and you think a propulsion feat of submerging a submarine is more impressive. Thats how retarded you are being. No wonder people attack you. You argue out of nothing more than DC bias and common sense is lost to you. Hulk didn't ko anything. You never proved leviathan was koed. Being koed is irrelevant since the stopping force > force of punch (which did almost no amount of stopping).


Leviathan was between 1000 and 2000 tons.
Why do you keep trolling me and saying 3 million?


Even if it was 3 million tons then it took 111,000 tons to stop the leviathan in that amount of time (or distance). Remember the multiplier is 0.037.

So from ALL ANGLES, AM feat was superior.

StiltmanFTW
Hulk's feat is vastly superior.

Aquaman continues to disappoint, same as his comic book version.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Heat and radiation energy is what the science guy was talking about. Not actual force. Do you even know what "force" means?

If your youtuber counts, so does ours. likewise, if our youtuber doesn't count, then neither does yours.

So which is it. do both youtubers count or do neither of them count?

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk didn't ko anything. You never proved leviathan was koed. Being koed is irrelevant since the stopping force > force of punch (which did almost no amount of stopping).

And here is a perfect display of you being retarded. Do you really think that Leviathan was ok after every single section of his exterior shifted and it was in the process of flipping completely over? You actually think the creature was just going to get back up like nothing happened?

Since you obviously never watched the movie because its Marvel, i'll explain something to you. Earlier in the film, Iron Mans lasers and rays had no effect on the creature. Jarvis even told Tony he was wasting his time, but yet Iron Man was able to blow the one up that Hulk punched and was flipping over.

Why do you think Iron Man was able to do that and why did he do that?




Because the creator of the creature estimated it to be around 3 million tons. Why do you continue to disagree with the creator and push your made up numbers as fact?



What was the speed and momentum the being was travelling at? What was the time and distance? Remember the multiplier is you are phucking retarded.

ShadowFyre
It was nowhere remotely close to 3 million tons

h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
And here is a perfect display of you being retarded. Do you really think that Leviathan was ok after every single section of his exterior shifted and it was in the process of flipping completely over? You actually think the creature was just going to get back up like nothing happened?

Since you obviously never watched the movie because its Marvel, i'll explain something to you. Earlier in the film, Iron Mans lasers and rays had no effect on the creature. Jarvis even told Tony he was wasting his time, but yet Iron Man was able to blow the one up that Hulk punched and was flipping over.

Why do you think Iron Man was able to do that and why did he do that?




Because the creator of the creature estimated it to be around 3 million tons. Why do you continue to disagree with the creator and push your made up numbers as fact?



What was the speed and momentum the being was travelling at? What was the time and distance? Remember the multiplier is you are phucking retarded. This is fiction. You have to prove that the leviathan was koed. Not use speculation. Even if it was koed then congrats, you just proved that it took less than 100 tons of force to ko it (the punch slowed it down less than 5%)

Clearly the writer wasnt estimating. He basically threw out a random number after saying MAYBE. The maybe part proves that he doesn't know. He never thought about the exact weight because it is unimportant to make the film.

You are a troll for even considering it.

Lastly i posted the calculations days ago. Look at them. It gives time and distance to come up with the multiplier.

tkitna
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
It was nowhere remotely close to 3 million tons

The writer says differently. Even if it wasnt the 3 million he estimated, its a lot more than H1's paltry space numbers hes passing as facts.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
This is fiction. You have to prove that the leviathan was koed. Not use speculation. Even if it was koed then congrats, you just proved that it took less than 100 tons of force to ko it (the punch slowed it down less than 5%)

Clearly the writer wasnt estimating. He basically threw out a random number after saying MAYBE. The maybe part proves that he doesn't know. He never thought about the exact weight because it is unimportant to make the film.

You are a troll for even considering it.

Lastly i posted the calculations days ago. Look at them. It gives time and distance to come up with the multiplier.

If your youtuber counts, so does ours. likewise, if our youtuber doesn't count, then neither does yours.

So which is it. do both youtubers count or do neither of them count?

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
This is fiction. You have to prove that the leviathan was koed. Not use speculation. Even if it was koed then congrats, you just proved that it took less than 100 tons of force to ko it (the punch slowed it down less than 5%)

Clearly the writer wasnt estimating. He basically threw out a random number after saying MAYBE. The maybe part proves that he doesn't know. He never thought about the exact weight because it is unimportant to make the film.

You are a troll for even considering it.

Lastly i posted the calculations days ago. Look at them. It gives time and distance to come up with the multiplier.

Why was Iron Man able to blow it up and why did he do it?

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FrothByte
Originally posted by h1a8
The beam is thin.
Thor didn't resist any attack that was capable of destroying a city. He was subjected to less than 1 millionth of the energy that destroyed the city.
AM resist over 560,000 tons. Therefore he's more durable than Thor against pressure.

Your opinions are not supported by onscreen feats. Thor was at ground zero of the Sokovia explosion and it was strong enough to destroy an entire city. Period.

h1a8
Originally posted by FrothByte
Your opinions are not supported by onscreen feats. Thor was at ground zero of the Sokovia explosion and it was strong enough to destroy an entire city. Period. Ground zero was the center of the island. Thor was outside. He was hit with a tiny fraction of the total. The other amount went out in all directions. Think of Flux

h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
Why was Iron Man able to blow it up and why did he do it? Because part of its body was exposed. If im wrong then you tell me why?

h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
The writer says differently. Even if it wasnt the 3 million he estimated, its a lot more than H1's paltry space numbers hes passing as facts. How can it be. We assume the same density as any organism (like the blue whale) unless we have onscreen evidence that says otherwise.

FrothByte
Originally posted by h1a8
Ground zero was the center of the island. Thor was outside. He was hit with a tiny fraction of the total. The other amount went out in all directions. Think of Flux

No, ground zero was the point of detonation which was caused by Thor striking with Mjolnir. Please make sure you watch the movie first so you don't look like an idiot.

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
Because part of its body was exposed. If im wrong then you tell me why?

Yes, and what caused the body to be exposed?

But why did Iron Man decide to blow it up?

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
How can it be. We assume the same density as any organism (like the blue whale) unless we have onscreen evidence that says otherwise.

Its an alien. Its not of this world. Thats what we all have been saying to you. Real world numbers dont apply here. This being was flying around the city busting up skyscrapers like there were made out of hardened sugar.

The reason Iron Man blew the creature up was because it was going to come down and crush the other Avengers.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
How can it be. We assume the same density as any organism (like the blue whale) unless we have onscreen evidence that says otherwise.

You're aware that not all organisms have the same density, correct?

h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
Its an alien. Its not of this world. Thats what we all have been saying to you. Real world numbers dont apply here. This being was flying around the city busting up skyscrapers like there were made out of hardened sugar.

The reason Iron Man blew the creature up was because it was going to come down and crush the other Avengers.

If you can't quantify the mass of the alien (assume the density is similar to a blue whale) then you have no feat. AM's feat is automatically more impressive by default.

That is the wrong reason. They could have easily gotten out of the way. I guess now there idiots.

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
You're aware that not all organisms have the same density, correct? Mammalian like creatures have approximately the same density (within 30% or less). That's what we assume unless onscreen evidence tells us different.


Now if you are claiming that we can't estimate the density from real mammals then Hulk has no feat then. He's weak as shit and AM wins this thread.

Silent Master
Where is your proof that the Leviathan is a mammal?

h1a8
Originally posted by FrothByte
No, ground zero was the point of detonation which was caused by Thor striking with Mjolnir. Please make sure you watch the movie first so you don't look like an idiot. Both Iron man and Thor overloaded the core (which was inside the island). Thors lightning sent an electric current to the core. The island didn't explode at first; it fell apart. After already being in many pieces was there a small explosion that originated from the center as shown on screen.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Where is your proof that the Leviathan is a mammal?
Nice troll way to ignore this

Originally posted by h1a8

Now if you are claiming that we can't estimate the density from real animals then Hulk has no feat then. He's weak as shit and AM wins this thread.

FrothByte
Originally posted by h1a8
Both Iron man and Thor overloaded the core (which was inside the island). Thors lightning sent an electric current to the core. The island didn't explode at first; it fell apart. After already being in many pieces was there a small explosion that originated from the center as shown on screen.



Please watch the movie first before you comment again.

h1a8
Originally posted by FrothByte
Please watch the movie first before you comment again. I win the debate.

FrothByte
Originally posted by h1a8
I win the debate.

Please watch the movie first before commenting again.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by h1a8
I win the debate.


If you really believe that, Why dont you BZ Froth on it?

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Nice troll way to ignore this

So, you have no proof, thank you for admitting it.

riv6672
You can never tell which one of these threads is going to turn into one of these threads.

FrothByte
Originally posted by riv6672
You can never tell which one of these threads is going to turn into one of these threads.

Pretty much any thread with H1 and a DC character.

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8

That is the wrong reason. They could have easily gotten out of the way. I guess now there idiots.

Proof that you didnt watch the movie. Dont comment again until you do.

h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
Proof that you didnt watch the movie. Dont comment again until you do. Like i said. They were written to be idiots there.
That has nothing to do with the thread though.
We are talking about a few hundred tons of force vs hundreds of thousands of tons of force. AM feat required more than 2,000 times more force.

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
Like i said. They were written to be idiots there.
That has nothing to do with the thread though.
We are talking about a few hundred tons of force vs hundreds of thousands of tons of force. AM feat required more than 2,000 times more force.

You are the only one talking about a few hundred tons of force. The rest of us are siding with the intentions of the aliens creator. You refuse to do so because you are wrong.

ShadowFyre
Originally posted by FrothByte
No, ground zero was the point of detonation which was caused by Thor striking with Mjolnir. Please make sure you watch the movie first so you don't look like an idiot.


Holy Shit H1. Thor was literally the creation of the explosion. Wtf

h1a8
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Holy Shit H1. Thor was literally the creation of the explosion. Wtf The reactor was at the center of the island as shown when iron man loaded it. Thor stuck the metal which sent more energy to the core, overloading it. The island didn't explode right way, it fell apart into pieces (like a macro disintegration). It wasnt like Thor struck a plot less island (no technological core) and he cause the island to crumble on his own power.

Silent Master
So, you have no proof, thank you for admitting it.

tkitna
It just dawned on me, H1 has some type of dyslexia disorder. Imagine being a person that watches a movie or reads a comic and comprehends everything totally backwards. The opposite of whats really going on. That has to be whats going on here and I actually feel bad for him because he may not be able to help his asinine stupidity.

StiltmanFTW
No.

It's severe autism or schizophrenia.

He needs Hulk to punch him in the face and end his misery, there is no other way.

FrothByte
Originally posted by h1a8
The reactor was at the center of the island as shown when iron man loaded it. Thor stuck the metal which sent more energy to the core, overloading it. The island didn't explode right way, it fell apart into pieces (like a macro disintegration). It wasnt like Thor struck a plot less island (no technological core) and he cause the island to crumble on his own power.

Looks like someone still hasn't watched the movie yet. What are you doing still commenting here?

h1a8
Originally posted by FrothByte
Looks like someone still hasn't watched the movie yet. What are you doing still commenting here?
Thats not a rebuttal.
I win the debate. Although what we are talking about has nothing to do with this thread.

AM wins since his feat took more than 2000x more force.

Silent Master
Hulk wins due to his feat being over 58,000x more impressive.

FrothByte
Originally posted by h1a8
Thats not a rebuttal.
I win the debate. Although what we are talking about has nothing to do with this thread.

AM wins since his feat took more than 2000x more force.

Of course it's not a rebuttal. How do you rebutt someone who keeps insisting that water isn't wet when they've never even seen water in the first place?

No, this is more of a common sense piece of advise.

So run along and watch the movie first then we can discuss.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by h1a8

I win the debate.


You sound like a child.

h1a8
AM wins since his feat took more than 2000x more force.

Silent Master
Hulk wins due to his feat being over 58,000x more impressive.

tkitna
Originally posted by Silent Master
Hulk wins due to his feat being over 58,000x more impressive.

Yep thumb up

tkitna
Originally posted by Darth Thor
You sound like a child.

Its weird isnt it? Like arguing with a 3 year old who's response is only 'because' all the time.

Like I said, he's 12 bricks short of a dozen. Somethings missing up there.

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