Could Firestorm transmute Adamantium?

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lawest9
Discuss.

zopzop
I don't see why not.

EcstaticGrace
Is Adamantium resistant to transmutation, why would this be a question?

DarkSaint85
Yeah...its not resistant, IIRC - that's how Magneto can strip it, he can still affect it on an atomic level.

Magnon
Transmutation constitutes an even more fundamental change/manipulation of matter than what Magneto does. Magnetic properties of matter are mostly the result of its constituent atoms and molecules having unpaired valence electron spins . This gives rise to atomic/molecular magnetic moments which can then interact with external magnetic fields (such as those of Magneto). Magneto still has to overcome the metallic bonds present in adamantium in order to break it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_pair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unpaired_electron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramagnetism

In contrast, transmutation involves change in the atomic number of the constituent elements of matter ("nuclear reactions"wink. This requires fusions/fissions of nuclei, and/or changing protons into neutrons (or vice versa) possibly via electron/positron emission or capture ("beta decay"wink. Such manipulations would in general require mastery over not only the EM but also the strong and weak forces. Once the atomic nuclei in adamantium have been transformed into, say, helium nuclei the electrons would have no choice but to rearrange around these new nuclei, which would automatically break the metal apart. Thus, as long as adamantium is made of electrons and nuclei, a being capable of transmutation should trivially be able to break/change it. It shouldn't even be any harder than the transmutation of any other material, since the building blocks (electrons, protons, neutrons) are the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_number
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_reaction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_decay

Matter can also display nuclear paramagnetism (in addition to / instead of electronic paramagnetism) but this is thousands of times weaker than the electronic one, due to the magnetogyric ratio of the electron being thousands of times larger than that of a typical atomic nucleus (i.o.w. an electron is MUCH more "magnetic" than a nucleus). Nevertheless, the phenomenon of nuclear paramagnetism has some important applications, of which the magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) used in the hospitals is probably the most well-known one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyromagnetic_ratio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_magnetic_resonance_spectroscopy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_resonance_imaging

Old Man Whirly!
Sure he can. If it's matter or energy, that's how his powers work.

Galan007
I'm more curious to know why he couldn't transmute it?

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Galan007
I'm more curious to know why he couldn't transmute it? thumb up

StiltmanFTW
I'm not familiar with Firestorm, other than it's his thing.

Matter/reality manipulation - or magic - can affect adamantium, as long as the user wields enough power and is competent with it.

Firestorm is a dc loser, so he would probably end up eating his own ass with Galan ejaculating on his face.

DarkSaint85
Not sure how that makes him a loser

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm not familiar with Firestorm, other than it's his thing.

Matter/reality manipulation - or magic - can affect adamantium, as long as the user wields enough power and is competent with it.

Firestorm is a dc loser, so he would probably end up eating his own ass with Galan ejaculating on his face. Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not sure how that makes him a loser laughcry

StiltmanFTW
laughing

F*ck, you're right. He's the real winner here, even if he fails to transmute adamantium.

Lawest makes the best gay threads.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm not familiar with Firestorm, other than it's his thing.


A wise man once told me...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
12 years + years lurking before that and years on other boards.

Stop pretending to be a noob.



hmm

StiltmanFTW
I know that he's very much into matter manip.

And that there were both white and black incarnations laughing out loud

However, I don't believe he is as versatile as galans would like us to believe. He is a c-list piece of shit waiting to get punked by a random brick.

DarkSaint85
In Stilts defence,

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Firestorm is a dc loser

Galan007
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Firestorm is a dc loser, so he would probably end up eating his own ass with Galan ejaculating on his face. thumb up

Damborgson
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
laughing

F*ck, you're right. He's the real winner here, even if he fails to transmute adamantium.

Lawest makes the best gay threads.

Dude, leave it to Lawest to make the LGBTQ threads erm like, we get it man.

lawest9
Originally posted by Damborgson
Dude, leave it to Lawest to make the LGBTQ threads erm like, we get it man. I don't know what it is that you think you "get" but I'm at a lost to know what homosexuality has to do with my thread or anything else here, you are barking up the wrong tree.

Philosophía
Lawest I will put you up against that tree and tickle your intestines.

h1a8
Tbh. I like to see a transmuter (like Surfer or Firestorm actually transmute something on the level of adamantium or DC equivalent).

DarkSaint85
Firestorm transmuted air into promethium.

Wonder Man

lawest9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Firestorm transmuted air into promethium. I'm not overly familiar with Promethium, what is it's durability level compared to Adamantium?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by lawest9
I'm not overly familiar with Promethium, what is it's durability level compared to Adamantium?

Crap.

Promethium has two variations, depleted and volatile.

Cyborg is made out of depleted promethium and he still gets anally raped all the damn time, with his bionic parts offering little resistance.

Volatile Promethium's properties include absorbing/channeling/amping energy --- now that is pretty useful.

h1a8
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Firestorm transmuted air into promethium. scans?

cdtm
Originally posted by lawest9
Discuss.


Easily.

cdtm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Crap.

Promethium has two variations, depleted and volatile.

Cyborg is made out of depleted promethium and he still gets anally raped all the damn time, with his bionic parts offering little resistance.

Volatile Promethium's properties include absorbing/channeling/amping energy --- now that is pretty useful.


Slade's swords are prometheium, no? They seem pretty much indestructible, with no upper limit on energy absorption.


Better than secondary adamantium at least.

StiltmanFTW
Volatile Promethium.

Can Firestorm create that specific kind of promethium?

And if he can... are we talking about Whitestorm or Blackstorm? shifty

They do NOT share feats.

cdtm
Has Firestorm ever altered Inertron?


Or if not, is his ability compared against Moleculad? (The Hanabarbara "Teen Force" hero was at the top of my head, I know the Legion guy is Element Lad.)

Galan007
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Firestorm transmuted air into promethium. Originally posted by h1a8
scans? Here:
https://ibb.co/2YY8Js3


And not that it really means a whole lot, but Access did state that Promethium is roughly equivalent to Adamantium:
https://ibb.co/hy65V37

h1a8
Originally posted by Galan007
Here:
https://ibb.co/2YY8Js3


And not that it really means a whole lot, but Access did state that Promethium is roughly equivalent to Adamantium:
https://ibb.co/hy65V37

thumb up

I think it's fair to believe that the intent of the creator of promethium was to create a DC equivalent to adamantium.

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