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It takes more energy to recreate half of all life in existence back to the exact way it was than it does to destroy it. Simple. Because creation takes more energy than destruction.

um Carver Thanos takes this

It makes sense that it depends on the difficulty of the snap. Remember Tony snapped fairly easily.

Plus Hulks Gamma blood was supposed to help with the snap ffs.


Edit- Also im guessing Eitris glove offered more protection than Tonys.

Originally posted by KingD19
It takes more energy to recreate half of all life in existence back to the exact way it was than it does to destroy it. Simple. Because creation takes more energy than destruction.
That actually makes a lot of sense.

I don't think the difficulty was in the Snap. Hulk Started hurting the moment he put the gauntlet on. Snap is easy. Enduring the stones ain't.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Snap is easy. Enduring the stones ain't.

I just had a mental image of the Hulk trying to piss out a Power Stone. hysterical

Originally posted by riv6672
I just had a mental image of the Hulk trying to piss out a Power Stone. hysterical

Wouldn't Hulk piss out the Time Stone? They're both green.

Originally posted by KingD19
Wouldn't Hulk piss out the Time Stone? They're both green.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
I don't think the difficulty was in the Snap. Hulk Started hurting the moment he put the gauntlet on. Snap is easy. Enduring the stones ain't.


So why was Iron Man able to wield it ?

Must be because IM was attempting a much smaller feat.

Thanos is better than Hulk.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Thanos failed to hit 6 people directly in front of him with an object that was literally thousands of kilometers in diameter. This is one of the great at failures in movie history.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre


False heresies.

Stupid thread. They were equals. Why? Because the writer wasnt trying to tell the audience there was a difference. Intent is everything.

The stones doing work isn't the same thing as Hulk or Thanos doing work. The premise of stones doing more equals more backlash is not necessarily true.
The premise that it takes more energy to disintegrate than to put matter together (like replicators on star trek) is not necessarily true either.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why? Because the writer wasnt trying to tell the audience there was a difference.


Citation needed.

Otherwise stupid analysis.

So, h1 is claiming to be the writer again?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, h1 is claiming to be the writer again?


His base form is writer, he has several more upgrades depending on the thread. He is like Ben 10 but with different masters in various fields. Math instructor, movie director, Master Karate Cage Fighter, time cop etc.

As already noted, Hulk's snap expanded more energy as he was creating, not destroying.

But there's no reason to believe Thanos couldn't survive doing the same thing. He's already shown to have survived destroying half the universe and then destroying the stones. Both on a lesser level than Hulk's creation-snap, but still impressive in their own right.

Hulk also had a very specific durability advantage as the film went on to tell us, his gamma sourced powers helped mitigate a lot of the personal damage one takes when using all the stones in such a manner.

Originally posted by h1a8
Stupid thread. They were equals. Why? Because the writer wasnt trying to tell the audience there was a difference. Intent is everything.

The stones doing work isn't the same thing as Hulk or Thanos doing work. The premise of stones doing more equals more backlash is not necessarily true.
The premise that it takes more energy to disintegrate than to put matter together (like replicators on star trek) is not necessarily true either.

Bingo!

Originally posted by 9jaboy
I don't think the difficulty was in the Snap. Hulk Started hurting the moment he put the gauntlet on. Snap is easy. Enduring the stones ain't.

This. Hulk was getting fried the moment he put the gauntlet on, while Thanos was unhurt. Thanos is just tougher than Hulk.

That makes sense if we just ignore that Tony also snapped a full infinity gauntlet.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So why was Iron Man able to wield it ?

Must be because IM was attempting a much smaller feat. Could be due to his gauntlet coupled with his bleeding edge armor. However it did affect him as soon as he wore the gauntlet.

The Snap didn't affect him in the slightest iirc or at least it wasn't visible.
All in All using the Stones didn't seem to hurt provided you're able to hold them. Take the collector's slave for instance; Immediately she touched the Power stone she was torn apart, Compare that with when the guardians held the stone, As soon as they survived holding it, they easily destroyed Ronan without any problems.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That makes sense if we just ignore that Tony also snapped a full infinity gauntlet. Tony had a protective suit on and still died. Hulk and Thanos were still tougher. It makes perfect sense.

You have to get out of the business of making stuff up that the movie doesn't tell us nor wants us to know.

Originally posted by h1a8
Tony had a protective suit on and still died. Hulk and Thanos were still tougher. It makes perfect sense.

You have to get out of the business of making stuff up that the movie doesn't tell us nor wants us to know.


You sound upset. Is the full time trolling taking a toll now?

Is Iron Man stronger than Hulk, yes or no ?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That makes sense if we just ignore that Tony also snapped a full infinity gauntlet.

Tony's armor was getting fried too. He just didn't feel the pain right away because his armor isn't part of him. Only Thanos has worn the full IG without damage.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Tony's armor was getting fried too. He just didn't feel the pain right away because his armor isn't part of him. Only Thanos has worn the full IG without damage.


What? Hulk fell to the floor screaming, and after the snap his arm burned up. Tony wasnt harmed until he snapped. So Youre basically claiming IMs armour gives Tony more protection than Hulks strength to wear the gauntlet and attempt a snap. Youre also claiming Hulks arm takes about as much damage as Tonys after the snap.

On and btw, Tony wasnt even wearing the gauntlet. Just his armour.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Tony's armor was getting fried too. He just didn't feel the pain right away because his armor isn't part of him. Only Thanos has worn the full IG without damage.

Bingo!

Originally posted by Darth Thor
What? Hulk fell to the floor screaming, and after the snap his arm burned up. Tony wasnt harmed until he snapped. So Youre basically claiming IMs armour gives Tony more protection than Hulks strength to wear the gauntlet and attempt a snap. Youre also claiming Hulks arm takes about as much damage as Tonys after the snap.

What are you trying to argue here? Are you denying that Tony's armor was getting damaged by just wearing the IG? Because it obviously was. Why would Tony collapse like Hulk did when it was the armor that was taking the majority of the damage, not Tony's body? Even then, it was obviously taxing him given that he could barely say 3 words before snapping. Again, only Thanos has worn the full IG without damage.

Originally posted by Psychotron
What are you trying to argue here? Are you denying that Tony's armor was getting damaged by just wearing the IG? Because it obviously was. Why would Tony collapse like Hulk did when it was the armor that was taking the majority of the damage, not Tony's body? Even then, it was obviously taxing him given that he could barely say 3 words before snapping. Again, only Thanos has worn the full IG without damage.


Why would Tony's armour give better protection than the Gauntlet Glove made out of the same armour? Then it just comes down to whose stronger Hulk or Tony. Heck even compare Hulk's to Iron Man's if you like.

If you agree Tony was struggling then clearly the stones had already penetrated the armour. So I would turn your own question back on you: What are you trying to argue here?

My point is it's much more logical to assume Hulk's snap was far far more difficult because of what he was attempting to achieve with it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Why would Tony's armour give better protection than the Gauntlet Glove made out of the same armour? Then it just comes down to whose stronger Hulk or Tony. Heck even compare Hulk's to Iron Man's if you like.

If you agree Tony was struggling then clearly the stones had already penetrated the armour. So I would turn your own question back on you: What are you trying to argue here?

My point is it's much more logical to assume Hulk's snap was far far more difficult because of what he was attempting to achieve with it.

You're confused. We're not discussing the snaps here. We're talking about just wearing the gauntlet. Hulk was getting melted and screaming in pain before he snapped, while Thanos was physically unhurt until he snapped. This is despite the fact that the majority of the energy was gamma. Therefore, Thanos is more durable than Hulk.

Originally posted by Psychotron
You're confused. We're not discussing the snaps here. We're talking about just wearing the gauntlet. Hulk was getting melted and screaming in pain before he snapped, while Thanos was physically unhurt until he snapped. This is despite the fact that the majority of the energy was gamma. Therefore, Thanos is more durable than Hulk.


Which must be because of what Hulk was trying to achieve with the IG. Because Tony wore the stones with far far less difficulty.

FYI I agree Thanos is almost certainly stronger and more durable than Hulk (especially Smart Hulk), but that's not the point here. The point is Hulk struggled far too much to wear the Guantlet. Not only compared to Thanos, but also compared to Iron Man.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Which must be because of what Hulk was trying to achieve with the IG. Because Tony wore the stones with far far less difficulty.

FYI I agree Thanos is almost certainly stronger and more durable than Hulk (especially Smart Hulk), but that's not the point here. The point is Hulk struggled far too much to wear the Guantlet. Not only compared to Thanos, but also compared to Iron Man.

That's pure speculation and both snaps are completely unquantifiable. There's no way to know if snapping half the universe to dust required more power than bringing it back or vice versa. All we know is that when Hulk put on the gauntlet he was badly injured, while Thanos was not. Also, Endgame Thanos wore the gauntlet with the intent of destroying the entire universe and re-creating it in his image, so if you're using intent then Endgame Thanos had the grandest one of all, yet he was unharmed when he wore the gauntlet.

Iron man died, while Hulk survived despite Tony having the smallest snap of the three, so that's not correct either.

Could it be possible that the Eitri-crafted Gauntlet offered more protection to the wearer than the faux-Gauntlet that Tony whipped up?

Originally posted by Galan007
Could it be possible that the Eitri-crafted Gauntlet offered more protection to the wearer than the faux-Gauntlet that Tony whipped up?


Yeah ive mentioned that point.

Eitris should be much better designed for that purpose.

Originally posted by Psychotron


Iron man died, while Hulk survived despite Tony having the smallest snap of the three, so that's not correct either.



Yeah but Iron Man didn't scream and fall to the floor just holding the stones.

Your argument was Thanos didn't scream just wearing the gauntlet like Hulk did. Well neither did IM.

Of course Tony died. He's only human under the armour.

Originally posted by Psychotron
That's pure speculation and both snaps are completely unquantifiable. There's no way to know if snapping half the universe to dust required more power than bringing it back or vice versa. All we know is that when Hulk put on the gauntlet he was badly injured, while Thanos was not. Also, Endgame Thanos wore the gauntlet with the intent of destroying the entire universe and re-creating it in his image, so if you're using intent then Endgame Thanos had the grandest one of all, yet he was unharmed when he wore the gauntlet.

Iron man died, while Hulk survived despite Tony having the smallest snap of the three, so that's not correct either.
Exactly

Originally posted by Galan007
Could it be possible that the Eitri-crafted Gauntlet offered more protection to the wearer than the faux-Gauntlet that Tony whipped up? Well one way to know is to compare how Thanos reacted to both gauntlets which is pretty the same IIRC.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Which must be because of what Hulk was trying to achieve with the IG. Because Tony wore the stones with far far less difficulty.

FYI I agree Thanos is almost certainly stronger and more durable than Hulk (especially Smart Hulk), but that's not the point here. The point is Hulk struggled far too much to wear the Guantlet. Not only compared to Thanos, but also compared to Iron Man.
What he was trying to achieve? So the stones would read your mind in the very second you put on the gauntlet, determine what you were planning to achieve and then task you accordingly? Imagination wild much? In Endgame Thanos was trying to wipe everyone out and recreate everything and still had the same effect he had when he first wore first gauntlet in IW.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah but Iron Man didn't scream and fall to the floor just holding the stones.

Your argument was Thanos didn't scream just wearing the gauntlet like Hulk did. Well neither did IM.

Of course Tony died. He's only human under the armour.

So? Tony was already on his knees anyway and like I said before, he had the protection of the armor, while Hulk did not.

No.The argument is that Hulk was visibly damaged by the stones. His arm was burned BEFORE he snapped, while Thanos was unhurt. We see Hulk's arm gets fried as soon as he puts the gauntlet on, while Thanos' arm was undamaged until after snapping.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah ive mentioned that point.

Eitris should be much better designed for that purpose.

Originally posted by Galan007
Could it be possible that the Eitri-crafted Gauntlet offered more protection to the wearer than the faux-Gauntlet that Tony whipped up?

Thanos still wore the Iron Man gauntlet without sustaining damage, so there is no basis for that theory.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Well one way to know is to compare how Thanos reacted to both gauntlets which is pretty the same IIRC.


What he was trying to achieve? So the stones would read your mind in the very second you put on the gauntlet, determine what you were planning to achieve and then task you accordingly? Imagination wild much? In Endgame Thanos was trying to wipe everyone out and recreate everything and still had the same effect he had when he first wore first gauntlet in IW.


Of course the Stones read your mind, how else would they know want the user intends to do lol.

Yeah Thanos screamed both times he put the full gauntlet on. Funny how IM never did though.


Originally posted by Psychotron
So? Tony was already on his knees anyway and like I said before, he had the protection of the armor, while Hulk did not.

This is a stupid argument. You're basically saying IM's armour is giving more protection than Thanos and Hulk's strength.

And their gauntlet was made of the same damn armour, which you keep ignoring. Jeez.


Originally posted by Psychotron
No.The argument is that Hulk was visibly damaged by the stones. His arm was burned BEFORE he snapped, while Thanos was unhurt. We see Hulk's arm gets fried as soon as he puts the gauntlet on, while Thanos' arm was undamaged until after snapping.


Yes, clearly because of what Hulk was trying to achieve with the gauntlet, which is the basis of this thread.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
This is a stupid argument. You're basically saying IM's armour is giving more protection than Thanos and Hulk's strength.

And their gauntlet was made of the same damn armour, which you keep ignoring. Jeez.





Yes, clearly because of what Hulk was trying to achieve with the gauntlet, which is the basis of this thread.

No, stop twisting my words. Thanos was unhurt and Hulk surivived, while Tony died. Obviously Tony did not take it as well as the former two despite wearing armor.

So what if it was made from the same material? Hulk was only wearing a gauntlet, the rest of his arm did not have any protection. Tony only managed to wear the gauntlet in the first place because his armor took the majority of the damage. It still killed him. Absolutely nobody is claiming Iron Man was as durable as Thanos or Hulk.

This is pure speculation on your part and Endgame Thanos was trying to achieve something grander than Hulk anyway, yet he wasn't hurt when he wore the gauntlet, while Hulk was crippled.

Originally posted by Psychotron
No, stop twisting my words. Thanos was unhurt and Hulk surivived, while Tony died. Obviously Tony did not take it as well as the former two despite wearing armor.





Again this "despite wearing armour" crap.

Thanos was wearing armour. So what?

Tony did not fall to the floor screaming wielding the stones. Heck he didn't even scream like Thanos did. There's just no getting around that.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Again this "despite wearing armour" crap.

Thanos was wearing armour. So what?

Tony did not fall to the floor screaming wielding the stones. Heck he didn't even scream like Thanos did. There's just no getting around that.

Except we see visible damage on Tony's armor and Hulk's arm when they put on the the gauntlet. The energy was burning through them. It never happened to Thanos. Also, Thanos' arms were exposed, there was no armor there, so the energy went directly into him, whilist Tony's armor absorbed most of it. No matter how you try to spin it Thanos is clearly the most durable here and tanked the gauntlet, while Hulk was injured by it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course the Stones read your mind, how else would they know want the user intends to do lol.
Lol That's not what I said! I know the stones is controlled with the mind.
I said Originally posted by 9jaboy

What he was trying to achieve? So the stones would read your mind in the very second you put on the gauntlet, determine what you were planning to achieve and then task you accordingly?
You separated the complete sentence.
I know You're smart enough to get this: You said the reason Hulk got burnt when he wore the gauntlet was because of what he was trying to achieve at that moment right?
How can that be? After Thanos wore the gauntlet in infinity war, he screamed a bit from the energy surge ,The next thing he did was to blast Thor. Before Snapping. NOW Are you saying the reason he screamed was due to the snap that which he did later on?