Vaccinating children with the Covid shot
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Deano
Do you agree with it?
No flaming and insults. Just a good topic of discussion
Grand-Moff-Gav
I don't know enough about the reasons why it's considered a good idea. I am also still under the impression that for most of the people who get it AND who have symptoms, those symptoms at their worst (for most) are a heavy flu.
What I would say is we need to become more comfortable with dying...
jaden_2.0
The risk from covid and the vaccine is negligible in children so from an individualist perspective it probably seems pointless. Immunising them is likely more about limiting them being vectors for spreading covid to more vulnerable people than about the children themselves.
Grand-Moff-Gav
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
The risk from covid and the vaccine is negligible in children so from an individualist perspective it probably seems pointless. Immunising them is likely more about limiting them being vectors for spreading covid to more vulnerable people than about the children themselves.
I did hear one of the health officials say that a danger might be presented by the virus living in an unvaccinated (and unaffected host) and therein mutate into something more potent and dangerous and therefrom spread.
Robtard
Children already get the yearly Flu shot, Covid is more easily transmittable than the Flu. It'd be stupid not to vaccinate children as well.
Grand-Moff-Gav
Originally posted by Robtard
Children already get the yearly Flu shot, Covid is more easily transmittable than the Flu. It'd be stupid not to vaccinate children as well.
That's interesting. Not the practice in the UK, where I've only had the annual flu jab on two occasions- both occassions asked to do so by the NHS because I was living with someone whose immune system had more or less stopped working.
Deano
Originally posted by Robtard
Children already get the yearly Flu shot, Covid is more easily transmittable than the Flu. It'd be stupid not to vaccinate children as well.
Quite the opposite. The flu and covid are no threat to children. And I don't know any child who had ever had the flu jab in UK
Robtard
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
That's interesting. Not the practice in the UK, where I've only had the annual flu jab on two occasions- both occassions asked to do so by the NHS because I was living with someone whose immune system had more or less stopped working.
Very common here from people 6 months and older.
Robtard
Originally posted by Deano
Quite the opposite. The flu and covid are no threat to children. And I don't know any child who had ever had the flu jab in UK
While children tend to recover faster and with less symptoms, saying "no threat" as in absolute is false.
It's also a matter of said unvaxxed children spreading it among each other in school which are well known giant petri dishes and then taking said viruses home, furthering the spread. Jaden touched on this above.
Deano
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Deano
Originally posted by Robtard
While children tend to recover faster and with less symptoms, saying "no threat" as in absolute is false.
It's also a matter of said unvaxxed children spreading it among each other in school which are well known giant petri dishes and then taking said viruses home, furthering the spread. Jaden touched on this above.
I'm sorry there's no threat to justify an experimental and dangerous vaccine. And you can still catch and spread covid even if you are vaccinated .
Show me the stats where kids are dying or getting seriously injured from covid.
I'll keep posting the vaccine injuries in the meantime
eThneoLgrRnae
Nope, I absolutely do not agree with it.
There is no justifiable reason to be "vaccinating" children even if you are one of those gullible souls who thinks covid "vaccines" are actually "safe and effective".
Children are the least at risk more than any other age group. The only children that you could make a good argument for getting these dangerous "vaccines" are those who have a weak or damaged immune system.
Those in power who are forcing children to take these poison jabs are not only violating the Nuremberg Code (which the just penalty for is death) but will have to answer to God for what they have done.
Jesus said that it would be better for someone to have a millstone tied around their neck and be thrown into the sea than to hurt one of these little ones who believes in Him (that is also talking about aborting babies and teaching that unbiblical unscientific evolutionary shit to children destroying their faith).
Robtard
Originally posted by Deano
I'm sorry there's no threat to justify an experimental and dangerous vaccine. And you can still catch and spread covid even if you are vaccinated .
Show me the stats where kids are dying or getting seriously injured from covid.
I'll keep posting the vaccine injuries in the meantime
The chances of catching and spreading and getting very sick are greatly reduced if you're vaccinated. Wearing a seat belt doesn't give you a 100% chance of surviving a horrible crash, but it helps a lot.
Here's the data in the US: https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/ As noted, it more about stopping them from being spreaders.
You can keep posting whatever twitter posts you like if it makes you feel better. Fact is, covid's killed millions worldwide and is still killing.
Grand-Moff-Gav
Originally posted by Robtard
You can keep posting whatever twitter posts you like if it makes you feel better. Fact is, covid's killed millions worldwide and is still killing.
I note that of worldwide COVID cases about 2% were fatal.
(247m cases with 5m deaths.)
Newjak
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I note that of worldwide COVID cases about 2% were fatal.
(247m cases with 5m deaths.) 5 million deaths is not a small number.
You also understand that within the year and half Covid has killed more people than the previous 15 years of flu combined?
That's with us taking precautions to limit it's spread.
If 2% of the population died that would be roughly 158 million people.
Grand-Moff-Gav
Originally posted by Newjak
5 million deaths is not a small number.
You also understand that within the year and half Covid has killed more people than the previous 15 years of flu combined?
That's with us taking precautions to limit it's spread.
If 2% of the population died that would be roughly 158 million people.
I didn't say it was a small number, I just said what the number was.
Grand-Moff-Gav
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an interesting image from WHO showing annual death rates of things other than COVID.
Newjak
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I didn't say it was a small number, I just said what the number was. So what was the point you were trying to make by bringing up the exact number and percentage of deaths?
Klaw
Newjak doesn't know what context is.
DeadpoolXXX
Originally posted by Newjak
5 million deaths is not a small number.
You also understand that within the year and half Covid has killed more people than the previous 15 years of flu combined?
That's with us taking precautions to limit it's spread.
If 2% of the population died that would be roughly 158 million people. the seasonal flu has been killing nearly half a million people worldwide for DECADES, and there hasnt been the massive outcry for flu vaccination like there is for covid. sure the flu shot is offered yearly, but it isnt forced down your throat like the covid vaccine is, even though the flu has killed millions. i find that strange honestly.
they are also testing more widely for covid than they EVER have for flu. they are also chalking up a lot of "accidental" deaths to covid. like you get in a car accident and sustain a multi system trauma. you go to the hospital barely alive as a result of your traumatic injuries. they swab you for covid and you happen to test positive. then you die. *boom* that is logged as a covid death. it's pretty insane.
Deano
Originally posted by Robtard
The chances of catching and spreading and getting very sick are greatly reduced if you're vaccinated. Wearing a seat belt doesn't give you a 100% chance of surviving a horrible crash, but it helps a lot.
Here's the data in the US: https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/ As noted, it more about stopping them from being spreaders.
You can keep posting whatever twitter posts you like if it makes you feel better. Fact is, covid's killed millions worldwide and is still killing.
Show me the statistics to back this up.
I don't believe covid has killed millions. Dying within 28 days of a covid test doesnt count
Grand-Moff-Gav
Originally posted by Newjak
So what was the point you were trying to make by bringing up the exact number and percentage of deaths?
(I didn't give exact numbers or percentages.)
I wasn't trying to make an argumentative point. As you say the death of 2% of the Earth's population would be quite vast, roughly wiping out the population of France and Germany plus some more I think.
eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Deano
Show me the statistics to back this up.
I don't believe covid has killed millions. Dying within 28 days of a covid test doesnt count
Only naive fools believe the official death count number which has been heavily overinflated with non-covid deaths.
I've showed numeous instances of non-covid deaths being labelled as "covid deaths" and people here simply ignored it, downplayed it, or attacked my source as being "unreliable."
They are like sheep to the slaughter and cannot be helped, I see that now.
Newjak
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
the seasonal flu has been killing nearly half a million people worldwide for DECADES, and there hasnt been the massive outcry for flu vaccination like there is for covid. sure the flu shot is offered yearly, but it isnt forced down your throat like the covid vaccine is, even though the flu has killed millions. i find that strange honestly.
they are also testing more widely for covid than they EVER have for flu. they are also chalking up a lot of "accidental" deaths to covid. like you get in a car accident and sustain a multi system trauma. you go to the hospital barely alive as a result of your traumatic injuries. they swab you for covid and you happen to test positive. then you die. *boom* that is logged as a covid death. it's pretty insane. That's because when the flu was its worst the technology didn't exist abck then.
Since it's been around enough our bodies have adapted and even then it is still recommended to get the flu vaccine.
The fact you think the flu is even close to covid right now is what is insane.
eThneoLgrRnae
Oh, and those "tests" they administer to determine if someone has covid or not have been known to give many false positives.
ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Only naive fools believe the official death count number which has been heavily overinflated with non-covid deaths.
I've showed numeous instances of non-covid deaths being labelled as "covid deaths" and people here simply ignored it, downplayed it, or attacked my source as being "unreliable."
They are like sheep to the slaughter and cannot be helped, I see that now.
If anything, I think the numbers may be understated. China was almost certainly lowballing their numbers hard.
ArtificialGlory
Not even 3 pages in and we are already back to the autistic bickering.
jaden_2.0
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Not even 3 pages in and we are already back to the autistic bickering.
Probably best not to bring up autism together with vaccines 😆
Deano
Anyone I know who gives the covid jab to children will be reported for child abuse
Klaw
Originally posted by Deano
Anyone I know who gives the covid jab to children will be reported for child abuse
What's the point when it's the same Government that's pushing the vaccine?
Blakemore
cos you are the Dean, the big bad Dean, they gonna listen to or die mahfukkah!
Deano
Originally posted by Blakemore
cos you are the Dean, the big bad Dean, they gonna listen to or die mahfukkah!
How many jabs you had so far? Don't be selfish you need the booster to save Christmas
Deano
Originally posted by Klaw
What's the point when it's the same Government that's pushing the vaccine?
The government do what they are told. As they have always done
eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Klaw
What's the point when it's the same Government that's pushing the vaccine? Exactly.
DeadpoolXXX
Originally posted by Newjak
The fact you think the flu is even close to covid right now is what is insane. i didnt say that. did you read my post, lol?
Robtard
Originally posted by Deano
Show me the statistics to back this up.
I don't believe covid has killed millions. Dying within 28 days of a covid test doesnt count
That data is easily found, it just seems like you refuse to accept covid is deadly:
https://www.who.int/data/stories/the-true-death-toll-of-covid-19-estimating-global-excess-mortality
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/
Just curious, how many do you think covid has killed?
snowdragon
If you have read the data then you know kids probably don't need a vaccine and even vaccinated you can still carry the virus.......if anyone wants to push on that just go to john hopkins website and educate yourself.
Darth Thor
Originally posted by snowdragon
If you have read the data then you know kids probably don't need a vaccine and even vaccinated you can still carry the virus.......if anyone wants to push on that just go to john hopkins website and educate yourself.
Vaccinations reduces transmission. High rates of transmission is whats still killing people.
Perhaps if all adults got vaccinated then kids wouldnt need. But we dont live in that world.
snowdragon
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Vaccinations reduces transmission. High rates of transmission is whats still killing people.
Perhaps if all adults got vaccinated then kids wouldnt need. But we dont live in that world.
Maybe
Deano
Look what is happening in Israel. Most vaccinated country in the world. That's how good your clot shots are
Deano
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Vaccinations reduces transmission. High rates of transmission is whats still killing people.
Perhaps if all adults got vaccinated then kids wouldnt need. But we dont live in that world.
No it doesn't. Look at Israel
Blakemore
Well that means that the vaccine is causing the spread... odd, I've been vaccinated and haven't seen any spread...
Deano
Originally posted by Blakemore
Well that means that the vaccine is causing the spread... odd, I've been vaccinated and haven't seen any spread...
They just don't work
https://www.vaccinedeaths.com/2021-06-14-mass-hypnosis-the-disturbing-psychology-behind-the-global-vaccine-suicide-cult.html
Blakemore
Then what's the problem?
jaden_2.0
Door locks don't 100% guarantee my house won't get robbed so why bother with them? I just leave my front door open. I'm fit and healthy so I can just fight off any burglar anyway.
Deano
Originally posted by Blakemore
Then what's the problem?
By forcing people to take an experiental jab? There could be many problems. Wait a year or two.
My main issues are
Shutting down society
Millions out of work
Depression skyrocketing
Cancer patients not being treated
All our freedoms being eroded
Medical facism.
All for a virus with a 99% survival rate.
But this was always the plan. And bill Gates has promised another pandemic. Which means more vaccines and more freedoms eroded. Woo hoo
Deano
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Door locks don't 100% guarantee my house won't get robbed so why bother with them? I just leave my front door open. I'm fit and healthy so I can just fight off any burglar anyway.
Terrible comparison.
Locks are a good invention
Gene altering chemicals in a trial phase are not. I don't want a blood clot thank you. Knock yourself out though. Maybe by your 8th booster these things will work
Blakemore
Well, if there's a 99% survival rate, don't you think the vaccine contributed to that?
eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Blakemore
Well that means that the vaccine is causing the spread... odd, I've been vaccinated and haven't seen any spread...
Ugh... you won't know if you've given it to anyone else, limey drunkard. There is an incubation period (of several weeks, iirc)
Odd how these variants didn't start appearing until AFTER the vaccines were released to public... so very odd, indeed....
I'm unvaccinated and as far as I know I haven't given any sickness to anyone... so odd, isn't it?
Blakemore
Originally posted by Deano
Terrible comparison.
Locks are a good invention
Gene altering chemicals in a trial phase are not. I don't want a blood clot thank you. Knock yourself out though. Maybe by your 8th booster these things will work
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Robtard
Originally posted by snowdragon
Maybe
"Vaccinations reduces transmission" is not a "maybe", it's a factbe.
Benefits of Getting a COVID-19 Vaccine
Deano
Originally posted by Blakemore
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Id rather wear my tin foil hat than a cloth mask cutting off my oxygen.
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Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Ugh... you won't know if you've given it to anyone else, limey drunkard. There is an incubation period (of several weeks, iirc)
Odd how these variants didn't start appearing until AFTER the vaccines were released to public... so very odd, indeed....
I'm unvaccinated and as far as I know I haven't given any sickness to anyone... so odd, isn't it?
Its pointless talking to them. They have dug there own grave
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Blakemore
^ This has to be the stupidest post on here in a long time.
Klaw
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Door locks don't 100% guarantee my house won't get robbed so why bother with them? I just leave my front door open. I'm fit and healthy so I can just fight off any burglar anyway.
Originally posted by Blakemore
^ This has to be the stupidest post on here in a long time.
Robtard
@Deano
Just curious, how many do you think covid has killed?
samhain
Originally posted by Deano
Do you agree with it?
No flaming and insults. Just a good topic of discussion
Seems kind of disingenuous after reading the bulk of your subsequent posts.
eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Deano
Id rather wear my tin foil hat than a cloth mask cutting off my oxygen.
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Its pointless talking to them. They have dug there own grave
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Spot on.
Deano
Originally posted by Blakemore
^ This has to be the stupidest post on here in a long time.
As stupid as saying the vaccines work and reduce transmission when clearly they don't. As stupid as posting the vaccine is safe for children?
Originally posted by Robtard
@Deano
Just curious, how many do you think covid has killed?
Not as many as they say. When they use jargon like 'died within 28 days of a positive test' then you know they are manipulating the figures. I've lost count of the amount of people I know who have tested positive for covid and there is nothing wrong with them. A mild cold at worst. But then if they die of anything within 28 days, covid goes on the death certificate. Come on man wake up
Let's see the real figures. How many healthy people have caught covid and died from covid. I guarantee the figures will be cut down by 70%.
QUOTE=17504518]Originally posted by samhain
Seems kind of disingenuous after reading the bulk of your subsequent posts.
Thank you for cobtributing to the topic.
Blakemore
COVID makes it hard to breathe and shuts down your immune system. You'd have to be an idiot to think it doesn't contribute to people dying.
Robtard
Originally posted by Deano
As stupid as saying the vaccines work and reduce transmission when clearly they don't. As stupid as posting the vaccine is safe for children?
Not as many as they say. When they use jargon like 'died within 28 days of a positive test' then you know they are manipulating the figures. I've lost count of the amount of people I know who have tested positive for covid and there is nothing wrong with them. A mild cold at worst. But then if they die of anything within 28 days, covid goes on the death certificate. Come on man wake up
Let's see the real figures. How many healthy people have caught covid and died from covid. I guarantee the figures will be cut down by 70%.
That's how this virus works, some get it and have none to very mild symptoms, others it viciously attacks their lungs and they die. Other's recover and have lingering health problems like asthma, when they didn't have it before.
So around 1.5million have died in your own estimate since Jan of 2020. Even taking that's true (it's not), that's about 750k a year average. That's far worse than the Flu's 200-500K deaths a year. So even by those low numbers Covid's not a "little flu".
eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Blakemore
COVID makes it hard to breathe and shuts down your immune system. You'd have to be an idiot to think it doesn't contribute to people dying.
And yet 99% of people (regardless of vax status) who have a strong immune system overcome it. You are a gullible sheep who is scared of a virus with over a 99% survival rate.... so sad.
It is actually these covid so-called vaccines that are destroying people's immune system over the long run, and the more booster shots they get, the more it f***s up their immune system.
As I said in other thread, we'll probably start seeing cases of cancer and heart-related problems spike during the winter from all these vaxxed people.
Unvaxxed people who overcome covid have a stronger immune system as a result, not a weaker one.
Just go back to your bottle, drunkard.
Blakemore
So the vaccine weakens the immune system?
Are you really that stupid?
Deano
Originally posted by Robtard
That's how this virus works, some get it and have none to very mild symptoms, others it viciously attacks their lungs and they die. Other's recover and have lingering health problems like asthma, when they didn't have it before.
So around 1.5million have died in your own estimate since Jan of 2020. Even taking that's true (it's not), that's about 750k a year average. That's far worse than the Flu's 200-500K deaths a year. So even by those low numbers Covid's not a "little flu".
I don't estimate nothing. Wouldn't surprise me if it was over 80%.
In 2019 30 children died from flu
In 2020 25 children died from covid
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WEHRZ89K3cTk/
DR RYAN COLE MD - IMMUNOLOGIST AND VIRAL EXPERT EXPLAINS HOW THE VACCINE WEAKENS THE IMMUNE SYSTEM
Newjak
Originally posted by Deano
I don't estimate nothing. Wouldn't surprise me if it was over 80%.
In 2019 30 children died from flu
In 2020 25 children died from covid
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WEHRZ89K3cTk/
DR RYAN COLE MD - IMMUNOLOGIST AND VIRAL EXPERT EXPLAINS HOW THE VACCINE WEAKENS THE IMMUNE SYSTEM
Klaw
All Newjak does is laugh when people make points.
eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Klaw
All Newjak does is laugh when people make points.
Because he can't actually refute those points.
Robtard
Originally posted by Klaw
All Newjak does is laugh when people make points. Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Because he can't actually refute those points.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Hmmm...
Newjak
@robtard
They wonder why I just laugh at them. Your response is exactly why. Every time I try and go validate their facts it always a lie or it lacks context.
They speak with such arrogance despite the reality around them constantly throwing dirt on their beliefs.
Blakemore
Originally posted by Newjak
@robtard
They wonder why I just laugh at them. Your response is exactly why. Every time I try and go validate their facts it always a lie or it lacks context.
They speak with such arrogance despite the reality around them constantly throwing dirt on their beliefs. But they're not really journalists, they're just entertainers of bullshit like Tucker Carlson and the rest of FOX news because muh freedom!
eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Newjak
@robtard
They wonder why I just laugh at them. Your response is exactly why. Every time I try and go validate their facts it always a lie or it lacks context.
They speak with such arrogance despite the reality around them constantly throwing dirt on their beliefs.
Klaw
Originally posted by Newjak
@robtard
They wonder why I just laugh at them. Your response is exactly why. Every time I try and go validate their facts it always a lie or it lacks context.
They speak with such arrogance despite the reality around them constantly throwing dirt on their beliefs.
According to KMC, Biden has a 90% approval rating and Trump will be arrested any day now.
Darth Thor
I see the 99% survival rate still be used as an attack on vaccines. Still waiting on the % deaths from caused by Covid vaccines.
Blakemore
Originally posted by Klaw
According to KMC, Biden has a 90% approval rating and Trump will be arrested any day now. Nobody said that.
Klaw
Originally posted by Blakemore
Nobody said that.
They imply it, based on the posts here.
Robtard
Originally posted by Blakemore
Nobody said that.
Typical Rightist deflection from Klaw.
Robtard
Originally posted by Newjak
@robtard
They wonder why I just laugh at them. Your response is exactly why. Every time I try and go validate their facts it always a lie or it lacks context.
They speak with such arrogance despite the reality around them constantly throwing dirt on their beliefs.
I fully hear ya and understand, I've been where you are at times.
These people live in a chamber of falsehoods and their lies are WTF levels of laughable. "Ivermectinould would have saved 375,0000 North American lives!", umm, no?
Blakemore
And now Klaw and methneo are going to say everyone else is in an echo chamber.
Klaw
Originally posted by Blakemore
And now Klaw and methneo are going to say everyone else is in an echo chamber.
Blakemore
Originally posted by Klaw
muh egos > your facts and logic
Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Robtard
I fully hear ya and understand, I've been where you are at times.
These people live in a chamber of falsehoods and their lies are WTF levels of laughable. "Ivermectinould would have saved 375,0000 North American lives!", umm, no? the ones online are at war with truth and destabilising reality for others.
Robtard
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
the ones online are at war with truth and destabilising reality for others.
This is true
Deano
Originally posted by Newjak
@robtard
They wonder why I just laugh at them. Your response is exactly why. Every time I try and go validate their facts it always a lie or it lacks context.
They speak with such arrogance despite the reality around them constantly throwing dirt on their beliefs.
You haven't validated anything. The Covid vaccines do not work and are not safe, especially not for children. This is proven with the amount of people coming forward with there kids in hospital with myocarditis. The vaccine also killed my partners aunty and put her cousin on medication for the rest of his life with blood clots. That is REALITY
Oh of course he is a crackpot. Your little fact checker said so. Is that because he is going against the narrative? No its because he isn't bought and paid for like all the other doctors.
There are hundreds and thousands more doctors coming forward and exposing the lies of the mainstream. Go and research.
I suppose former Pfizer scientist is a crackpot too?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Ci2jK1yFoOd/
Originally posted by Klaw
All Newjak does is laugh when people make points.
What else can he do?
Deano
Originally posted by Robtard
I fully hear ya and understand, I've been where you are at times.
These people live in a chamber of falsehoods and their lies are WTF levels of laughable. "Ivermectinould would have saved 375,0000 North American lives!", umm, no?
Just like you people believe you need an experimental vaccine for a virus with a 99.5% survival rate
I pray for your health in the future and i hope to god you don't have any kids
Talk about laughable
Robtard
Originally posted by Deano
Just like you people believe you need an experimental vaccine for a virus with a 99.5% survival rate
I pray for your health in the future and i hope to god you don't have any kids
Talk about laughable
Just like I believe in vaccines that combat viruses with an even lower (1-2 in 1,000) mortality rate like the Measels, because I don't like being sick. It's just common sense and science.
I have two children, buddy Deano
As a responsible parent, they've been vaccinated for everything. Something like 11-13 vaccinations. Science!
99.5% survival rate now? Too funny, the survival rate for Covid just keeps going up with you people. I suspect soon it will be a 99.999% survival rate.
snowdragon
what is the survival rate and average age of death?
If you want to play the game than do it with real numbers and facts
Robtard
It varies, depending largely on age. We still lost over 745K people in America alone and counting, because of how easily the virus spreads and how politicized the Right made it with their anti-science approach since the start.
Even if it's the 1% flat out, in a population of 330million, that's a lot of potential deaths. But it's higher.
Seems like an overall average of 1.6% mortality rate in the United States of America
Why the COVID-19 survival rate is not over 99%
The "well, it's mostly just killing people 70 and over and the obese and they were probably gonna die anyway so meh" is just more death cult nonsense. Honestly, it's deplorable and shameful.
Newjak
Originally posted by Deano
You haven't validated anything. The Covid vaccines do not work and are not safe, especially not for children. This is proven with the amount of people coming forward with there kids in hospital with myocarditis. The vaccine also killed my partners aunty and put her cousin on medication for the rest of his life with blood clots. That is REALITY
Oh of course he is a crackpot. Your little fact checker said so. Is that because he is going against the narrative? No its because he isn't bought and paid for like all the other doctors.
There are hundreds and thousands more doctors coming forward and exposing the lies of the mainstream. Go and research.
I suppose former Pfizer scientist is a crackpot too?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Ci2jK1yFoOd/
What else can he do?
Robtard
Originally posted by Deano
Oh of course he is a crackpot. Your little fact checker said so. Is that because he is going against the narrative? No its because he isn't bought and paid for like all the other doctors.
There are hundreds and thousands more doctors coming forward and exposing the lies of the mainstream. Go and research.
I suppose former Pfizer scientist is a crackpot too?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Ci2jK1yFoOd/
Yes, when you go against science and push disproved claims as fact, you're a "crackpot". Ivermectin is a drug used to treat intestinal parasites, it's not for treating covid-19, yet here he is pushing that false narrative just the same.
Mike Yeadon is another of these fringe wingnut scientist pushing scientifically disproved claims: Fact Check-Fact check: Ex-Pfizer scientist repeats COVID-19 vaccine misinformation in recorded speech
Just like this wingnut doctor who claimed she's curing people with Hydroxychloroquine, but it's bullshit, HydroQ does not sure covid and can be dangerous if misused.
Serious question, why do you distrust vaccines which have been tested and retested, but trust these so-called oddball cures?
Deano
Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, when you go against science and push disproved claims as fact, you're a "crackpot". Ivermectin is a drug used to treat intestinal parasites, it's not for treating covid-19, yet here he is pushing that false narrative just the same.
Mike Yeadon is another of these fringe wingnut scientist pushing scientifically disproved claims: Fact Check-Fact check: Ex-Pfizer scientist repeats COVID-19 vaccine misinformation in recorded speech
Just like this wingnut doctor who claimed she's curing people with Hydroxychloroquine, but it's bullshit, HydroQ does not sure covid and can be dangerous if misused.
Serious question, why do you distrust vaccines which have been tested and retested, but trust these so-called oddball cures?
You are making a lot of assumptions.
What makes you think I distrust vaccines? My daughter has also been vaccinated. But with vaccines fully tested over a period of years against genuine deadly diseases.
This vaccine isn't even technically a vaccine it's a gene altering therapy which I've proven isn't safe and is on trial until 2024. It's probably killed more people than all the other vaccines put together and is known to cause blood clots and god knows what else. I've already told you about my family members.
It's on trial and you people are the guinea pig. That's a fact my friend. And you think it's safe to jab your kids with it. You are insane pal. You can't admit to the fact that you've been had over.
Also when did I say I trust oddball cures? I said take vitamins and stay HEALTHY. I have no opinion on ivermectin.
Any doctor who goes against the official line is a crackpot according to you. But yet you trust guys like Anthony fauci who tortures innocent dogs to death, by locking there head in a cage and letting a swarm of flies eat it alive. Seems a bit strange you put your faith in such maniacs.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/IF5WicmITjEp/
And why is it that I don't know anyone who has died from covid or know anyone who knows anyone but yet I know lots of people who are falling ill after having the two jabs? I've lost count of how many vaccine injuries I'm hearing from friends. You don't need science to tell you that they don't work
Klaw
Originally posted by Deano
Of course you find kids dying funny.
Newjak is a troll.
Robtard
Originally posted by Deano
You are making a lot of assumptions.
What makes you think I distrust vaccines? My daughter has also been vaccinated. But with vaccines fully tested over a period of years against genuine deadly diseases.
This vaccine isn't even technically a vaccine it's a gene altering therapy which I've proven isn't safe and is on trial until 2024. It's probably killed more people than all the other vaccines put together and is known to cause blood clots and god knows what else. I've already told you about my family members.
It's on trial and you people are the guinea pig. That's a fact my friend. And you think it's safe to jab your kids with it. You are insane pal. You can't admit to the fact that you've been had over.
Also when did I say I trust oddball cures? I said take vitamins and stay HEALTHY. I have no opinion on ivermectin.
Any doctor who goes against the official line is a crackpot according to you. But yet you trust guys like Anthony fauci who tortures innocent dogs to death, by locking there head in a cage and letting a swarm of flies eat it alive. Seems a bit strange you put your faith in such maniacs.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/IF5WicmITjEp/
And why is it that I don't know anyone who has died from covid or know anyone who knows anyone but yet I know lots of people who are falling ill after having the two jabs? I've lost count of how many vaccine injuries I'm hearing from friends. You don't need science to tell you that they don't work
Fair enough then, you come off as general anti-vax though, why I assumed. Glad to hear you're not full on insane.
They're vaccines, methods differ because science and technology have advanced, but they're still vaccines. Maybe this is just a fear of science and advancement.
I've been had over by whom exactly???
When you post these crackpots' claims as proof, you're cosigning their claims. That's how that works, buddy.
And now you're pushing the false narrative that Fauci tortures dogs... because some Youtube mouthbreather says so or? SMH
Since we're doing the anecdote thing: I don't know anyone who has died from the vaccine and in my area we're at 97% vaccinated. I also don't know anyone who's suffered adverse effects from the vaccines, aside from maybe some mild 24-48hr symptoms after taking the (usually) second shot. I've lost count of how many times people have told me they've been vaccinated and didn't suffer something serious or didn't die.
I do know of a handful of people who have died from covid though. No one really close to me, friend's uncle, my wife's coworker's husband. Some others.
Deano
Originally posted by Klaw
Newjak is a troll.
Shouldn't trolls be banned?
Klaw
Originally posted by Deano
Shouldn't trolls be banned?
Only the Right Wing ones get banned.
Deano
Originally posted by Robtard
Fair enough then, you come off as general anti-vax though, why I assumed. Glad to hear you're not full on insane.
They're vaccines, methods differ because science and technology have advanced, but they're still vaccines. Maybe this is just a fear of science and advancement.
I've been had over by whom exactly???
When you post these crackpots' claims as proof, you're cosigning their claims. That's how that works, buddy.
And now you're pushing the false narrative that Fauci tortures dogs... because some Youtube mouthbreather says so or? SMH
Since we're doing the anecdote thing: I don't know anyone who has died from the vaccine and in my area we're at 97% vaccinated. I also don't know anyone who's suffered adverse effects from the vaccines, aside from maybe some mild 24-48hr symptoms after taking the (usually) second shot. I've lost count of how many times people have told me they've been vaccinated and didn't suffer something serious or didn't die.
I do know of a handful of people who have died from covid though. No one really close to me, friend's uncle, my wife's coworker's husband. Some others.
That's fair enough also.
How do you know they died of covid and not died within 28 days of a covid test? A colleague at work of mine told me of his wife's uncle who was in hospital with advanced liver disease because of alcoholism. He had days to live. And he said at the very last minute they gave him a PCR test and he tested positive. So when he died guess what went on his death certificate. The waters are muddied so much that the statistics don't prove a damn thing.
And that leads me to another argument on the PCR tests. I believe they throw up lots of false positives. Another example, the old man at my work had his flu jab last year, felt a bit unwell and then immediately took a pcr test, he came back positive. No way did he have covid, the pcr test was picking up the flu symptoms from the jab. How many thousands of false positives helped hype up the statistics and keep us in lockdown?
I don't fear science or advancement. I fear taking an experimental drug that is not proven safe, especially in the long run. It's an unnecessary risk for the majority of us and I don't see one good reason to jab children. It's truly insane to jab the kids with this. There have been many reports recently of kids suddenly dying.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/school-rocked-deaths-two-pupils-25365725
I've had covid and recovered. I suffer with flu a lot and i would say the flu is worse. Flu takes me 10 days to recover where covid I was OK after 5 days. Add that to the fact that the vaccine doesnt stop you catching or spreading the disease, then what point is there in me having it? It just Doesnt make any logical sense.
The majority of people at my work can't even name an ingredient in the vaccine, they are just taking it because everyone else has or because they want to go on holiday. I'm in the twilight zone
You may not know anyone who has had any adverse effects from the vaccine and that's fair enough. They probably are very rare but I would say an healthy person dying of covid is extremely rare also and thats my point
And let's justs say for arguments sake that one of these vaccines causes a blood clot In someone you know that leads to an heart attack, then how would you know that it was the vaccine? I think you would dismiss it as pure coincidence anyway.
It's a risk but it's your choice and I respect that. Unfortunately people don't respect my decision not to have it. The children are innocent and have to trust we are making the right decision for them . And sadly I don't think the majority of people are making that right decision
Robtard
Because they came down with Covid, got progressively worse, serious lung issues and then died while in the ICU. But sure, guess it could have maybe been some undiagnosed super-cancer or a bad taco. I know of a fourth that died after being Covid diagnosed, but I didn't get specifics there.
So the people getting tested for Covid and then dying, it was a false positive and something else killed them? Because if there's a lot of false positives as your feelings tell you, then the mortality rate of Covid is likely even higher.
At one point the Polio vaccine was "experimental", all vaccines are, then they're tested and then released into the general populace. People who had fears of the Polio vaccine back when it was new, likely won Polio prizes. 1950's vaccine loving Robtard would have been Polio free most likely.
To your link: Mr Murray added: "At this stage, the cause of each death has not yet been determined and out of respect for both families, we would ask people not to speculate, particularly on social media, at this very difficult time.
Sure, that's you and I'm glad Covid was a mild ride. Other perfectly healthy people get Covid and die or serious lasting illnesses to their lungs. You don't know until you go through it, so why go through it when you can lower the chances with a vaccine.
Most people can't name the ingredients in whatever microwave ready processed food crap they cram down their throats. But you expect them to fire off a list about a vaccine? Do you know the ingredients of say the Rubella vaccine without googling. I highly doubt it.
The US (one of the worst hit) has an average Covid mortality rate of 1.6%, the vaccine is maybe .00001~, that's IMMENSELY safer.
I'd let the medical experts determine the cause of death in the scenario.
See, I think your beliefs here are nutty, but I don't think they come from a place of shit and malice. Why I can still respect you, while believing you're wrong
jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Deano
And that leads me to another argument on the PCR tests. I believe they throw up lots of false positives. Another example, the old man at my work had his flu jab last year, felt a bit unwell and then immediately took a pcr test, he came back positive. No way did he have covid, the pcr test was picking up the flu symptoms from the jab. How many thousands of false positives helped hype up the statistics and keep us in lockdown?
PCR doesn't "pick up" anything. It's a method for creating copies of DNA/RNA so that it can be run through sequencing to determine what it is. Assays require a minimum amount of DNA/RNA to be accurate.
False positives were more likely at the beginning of the pandemic as PCR kits were what as known as "unoptimised" meaning they weren't targeted to multiply the genomic sequence of SARS-CoV-2. This problem was fixed in May/June last year and PCR primers are now highly accurate.
eThneoLgrRnae
Of course the PCR tests give frequent false positives. That is common knowledge and not up for debate.
Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Klaw
Only the Right Wing ones get banned.
If that were the case, then you would no longer be here.
Deano
Could of been pneumonia or any lung related illness. A friend of mine knows someone who was misdiagnosed and I've heard lots of these reports from all over the world. The trouble is everything is now covid and the mass hysteria is frightening. Everyone is focusing on covid and ignoring everything else.
As stated above. There have been numerous incidences where covid is wrongly put on the death certificate. The mortality rate is considerably lower. This virus just doesn't affect the average healthy young person. That is proven.
That's all well and good. Polio was on the way out anyway due to dramatic improvement in health and sanitation. I belive it was rushed through in the States and more than 200,000 children received the shot. About 40,000 got polio with a couple of hundred paralysed and 10 deaths. If you want to take that risk in an experimental phase then that's your choice.
Of course we mustn't jump to conclusions but is very fishy. An headteacher being interviewed on TV stated that 14 kids have been off school with vaccine side effects. Hopefully all harmless but there is definete cause for concern with these mrna vaccines. I think it's totally irresponsible parenting to give this to your child.
And there are many other sudden child deaths reported all over the country since the jab rollout. Its definitely fishy.
I don't think perfectly healthy people get covid and die. I don't see any evidence for that at all. There is over a 99% survival rate for a reason.
We have already established that the vaccines do not work at all. Thry don't stop you getting covid or spreading it. My partners sister is double jabbed and was really poorly with covid, more poorly than me who has not been vaccinated. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest these vaccines are effective. Again look at Israel.
There in lies the problem, if many people truly knew the ingredients in food would we shove it done our throats? Same goes for the vaccines. Most people are taking it because others are and because they want to go on holiday. It's noting to do with being healthy.
Yes a lot of food we eat is rubbish and we know the risks but again that's the choice we make. At least you can reverse unhealthy eating. You can't reverse this gene altering experimental jab.
I don't belive those figures sorry. The majority of covid deaths are not really covid deaths and about 80% of adverse effects and deaths of vaccine are not even reported. These so called medical experts are bought and paid for.
I don't think they are nutty. I'm just asking questions thr majority are not asking. In my experience the majority don't question, they just follow what everyone is doing.
There is no hard feelings I respect the fact you are open to discussion 👍
Deano
How's this for karma
https://thecovidblog.com/2021/11/04/richard-rowe-41-year-old-former-florida-congressional-candidate-tells-anti-vaxxers-i-dont-give-a-sht-what-happens-to-you-dead-seven-weeks-after-second-pfizer-mrna-injection/
Robtard
That blog's hatred of the LGBT community is deplorable. Likely a "Christian" blog. Anyhow.
But it clearly says he "had an unknown medical episode and was found by the neighbors."
cdtm
Originally posted by Robtard
That blog's hatred of the LGBT community is deplorable. Likely a "Christian" blog. Anyhow.
But it clearly says he "had an unknown medical episode and was found by the neighbors."
Did you know it's possible to hate a person without hating their orientation?
Funny but true.
Robtard
Originally posted by cdtm
Did you know it's possible to hate a person without hating their orientation?
Funny but true.
The anti-LGBT tone of the page is very clear, an example: "indoctrinating kids with homosexual culture"
Maybe you should read before commenting for once? Go on, give a try
Adam_PoE
Originally posted by cdtm
Did you know it's possible to hate a person without hating their orientation?
Funny but true.
Too bad that does not address his point, huh?
Dude111
Sadly I know alot who are barainwashed and have no problem letting them inject this poison into thier young one.......
Its very sad...........
Bashar Teg
very cute, deano
hope you get permabanned, jerkoff
Blakemore
My facebook wall has people complaining they're getting chest pains shortly after taking the booster.
Then again, it's facebook.
cdtm
Originally posted by Blakemore
My facebook wall has people complaining they're getting chest pains shortly after taking the booster.
Then again, it's facebook.
I got dizzy spells shortly after taking the booster.
cdtm
Jaden's right though.
Pushing to vaccinate very low risk people is part of the logic anti-vaxxers latch on to.
Authorities could just as easily stress at risk groups get it, and everyone else strongly consider it. I guess they think the public is too stupid to determine which is which and chose a blanket "vax everyone" policy.
Dude111
I didnt do anything wrong but maybe I wont reply in this thread anymore,I dont wanna make anyone mad.. I like it here
Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Dude111
I didnt do anything wrong but maybe I wont reply in this thread anymore,I dont wanna make anyone mad.. I like it here
samhain
Originally posted by Blakemore
My facebook wall has people complaining they're getting chest pains shortly after taking the booster.
Then again, it's facebook.
Only thing I felt was a slight twinge in my arm, it was more like discomfort than pain, like I'd done a few too many reps on a dumbbell. My dad didn't feel even that and he's 81.
Blakemore
I still haven't taken my booster. haermm
Blakemore
You only get one shot.
jaden_2.0
Originally posted by cdtm
Jaden's right though.
Obviously.
Robtard
Originally posted by Blakemore
My facebook wall has people complaining they're getting chest pains shortly after taking the booster.
Then again, it's facebook.
Idiots working themselves up into a panic attack?
I felt nothing after my booster aside from very minor injection pain in my arm.
Blakemore
Originally posted by Robtard
Idiots working themselves up into a panic attack?
I felt nothing after my booster aside from very minor injection pain in my arm. That's why I said "it's facebook" they were probably just taking the piss.
Robtard
My sister-in-law worked herself up into a full blown panic attack getting her first shot because she was stupid enough to believe all the scary anti-vax nonsense.
Then she blamed the shot for feeling like shit immediately after.
Blakemore
Remember the old days when a shot was just something you did as a precaution and not a politicised thing? Like someone would say to you, "oh you gotta take this shot because if you don't someone might die" and you thought, "oh, I'll take the shot then. It's done by doctors who seem to know what they're talking about so I'll take their word for it" and now it's like "oh wait, there's a conspiracy to do something that we don't like" and it's like, "uh, what is their goal, then?"
Robtard
I do, because it was only around a year ago that aside from a small fringe group of anti-vax mouthbreathers, there was nothing nefarious or political about getting a vaccine.
Now the anti-vax are legion. The idiots propagated.
Blakemore
Tucker Carlson is thinking of running for president.
Imagine a Trump Carlson ticket
eThneoLgrRnae
Deano was still spot on with everything he was saying despite how much all the vaccine fascists here didn't like it.
Any parent who lets their child be poison jabbed/covid vaxxed should be ashamed of themselves. Children are by far the least at risk. There is no valid reason to subject them to this highly dangerous so-called "vaccine".
It's playing russian roulette with their lives.
Bashar Teg
crywank Methneo
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
"No, the vaccine worked," Trump said. "But some people aren't taking it. The ones that get very sick and go to the hospital are the ones that don't take their vaccine." He added: "People aren't dying when they take their vaccine."
so will trumpers finally accept the vaccine or do they conclude that trump is a cuck. will the paradox make their brains shut down? eat
Bashar Teg
neglected to add: there's always option #3, aka "Old Reliable"
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