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This is exactly what parents need to be doing across America to combat Leftism.

Hope it becomes a big trend.

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Conservatives win school board seats in a conservative area. News at eleven.

Senator Rick Scott continues to project optimism about the electoral climate for Republicans, forecasting an "unbelievable" shift in school boards in 2022. During an interview Wednesday morning on Fox News Radio's Brian Kilmeade Show, the Senator said there would be an "unbelievable number of school board changes this next year."

Scott expects cultural backlash to prevail, "Because parents are fed up with these school boards telling them that your kid's oppressed or your kid's an oppressor. That is so crazy," Scott added.

Scott, the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, closed out 2021 trumpeting much of the same message he has all year, an expectation that critical race theory can be used to mobilize November voters.

Why don't they just teach their own kids ?

People against the teaching of Critical Race Theory want to keep the whitewashed view of race history, because the real truth is so depressing and damning of White people.

Originally posted by roughrider
People against the teaching of Critical Race Theory want to keep the whitewashed view of race history, because the real truth is so depressing and damning of White people.

Any critical theory- there are many- are deconstructive in nature.
Education should be constructive.

Historical revisionism is a standard part of correcting the historical record, and can even be revolutionary, but I hardly think any form of it should be taught as the standard narrative to children, as opposed to instructing them in histiography and letting them come to their own conclusions.

Also, if state provided services, e.g. public schools, actually are services that are paid for with tax dollars, then it would logically follow that if they-parents- didn't like something about the curriculum that they'd be able to voice their concerns.

If you support democracy then you have to respect mob rule, even if you're part of the minority.

Originally posted by ilikecomics

If you support democracy then you have to respect mob rule, even if you're part of the minority.

durmask

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
durmask

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Senator Rick Scott continues to project optimism about the electoral climate for Republicans, forecasting an "unbelievable" shift in school boards in 2022. During an interview Wednesday morning on Fox News Radio's Brian Kilmeade Show, the Senator said there would be an "unbelievable number of school board changes this next year."

Scott expects cultural backlash to prevail, "Because parents are fed up with these school boards telling them that your kid's oppressed or your kid's an oppressor. That is so crazy," Scott added.

Scott, the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, closed out 2021 trumpeting much of the same message he has all year, an expectation that critical race theory can be used to mobilize November voters.

Emboldened by a string of off-cycle electoral victories, Republicans are embracing the culture war battles that Donald Trump waged from the White House as a strategy for winning back control of the House and Senate in the 2022 midterm elections. "Lean Into the Culture War," was the title of a June memo from the leader of the House Republican Study Committee, Indiana congressman Jim Banks.

Grievance politics is not a new strategy for Republicans. In 1968, Richard Nixon employed the "Southern Strategy" to exploit white racial grievances coded in language such as "law and order" and "states' rights." But as partisanship grows and the parties become increasingly hostile to one another, so too has the potential political benefit of cultural warfare that inflames division and energizes their base.

Or to fix this title

"Untrained and inexperienced people who have no business setting schools standards win election through fear mongering and will likely set back American School systems more thus putting our children in an even deeper deficit compared to the rest of the developed world."

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Any critical theory- there are many- are deconstructive in nature.
Education should be constructive.

Historical revisionism is a standard part of correcting the historical record, and can even be revolutionary, but I hardly think any form of it should be taught as the standard narrative to children, as opposed to instructing them in histiography and letting them come to their own conclusions.

Also, if state provided services, e.g. public schools, actually are services that are paid for with tax dollars, then it would logically follow that if they-parents- didn't like something about the curriculum that they'd be able to voice their concerns.

If you support democracy then you have to respect mob rule, even if you're part of the minority. Let's try this with math.

Hey kids the contemporary wisdom here is that 2 + 2 equals 4 but you know what Betty's Mom over there doesn't think that is right or they find it too uncomfortable to talk about so we'll let you children decide what conclusions to come to.

Also instructing children on history means putting accuracy into it. Unless they know what happened good and bad they'll never be able to ask the right questions.

Originally posted by Newjak
Or to fix this title

"Untrained and inexperienced people who have no business setting schools standards win election through fear mongering and will likely set back American School systems more thus putting our children in an even deeper deficit compared to the rest of the developed world."

More like they'll learn 'um about all the good truth stuff like how flat the earth is, how Australia is fake, how vaccines are THE DEVIL'S WORK and how 9/11 was Obama's fault.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
More like they'll learn 'um about all the good truth stuff like how flat the earth is, how Australia is fake, how vaccines are THE DEVIL'S WORK and how 9/11 was Obama's fault. Like I said widening the deficit between American children and the rest of the world.

Originally posted by Newjak
Like I said widening the deficit between American children and the rest of the world.

#MakeingMuricaGrateAgian

#Trump2025

#ReleaseTheKaken

Originally posted by Newjak
Let's try this with math.

Hey kids the contemporary wisdom here is that 2 + 2 equals 4 but you know what Betty's Mom over there doesn't think that is right or they find it too uncomfortable to talk about so we'll let you children decide what conclusions to come to.

Also instructing children on history means putting accuracy into it. Unless they know what happened good and bad they'll never be able to ask the right questions.

If you don't know the difference between fields of deduction, like math, logic, and praxeology vs. the more empirically based social sciences then I don't know what to tell you to begin with.

Maybe you're confused about what critical race theory is, I recommend the work of the scholars at new discourses.

What do you think critical race theory is ?

Originally posted by ilikecomics
If you don't know the difference between fields of deduction, like math, logic, and praxeology vs. the more empirically based social sciences then I don't know what to tell you to begin with.

Maybe you're confused about what critical race theory is, I recommend the work of the scholars at new discourses.

What do you think critical race theory is ? You far right people have had critical race theory explained by Rob, Newjak and Adam. Continually asking the same question is trolling Ziggy.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
You far right people have had critical race theory explained by Rob, Newjak and Adam. Continually asking the same question is trolling Ziggy.

I actually haven't had someone explain it which is why I ask. Only a sophist seeks to obscure definitions.

But I mean the wiki for crt will tell you that it draws from socialist thinkers, so pretend all you want that it's just a new methodology for looking at history, but we both know it's socialism with a new coat of paint.

I wouldn't mind if it were an elective that kids could choose, but being part of the universal curricular structure is asinine.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
I actually haven't had someone explain it which is why I ask. Only a sophist seeks to obscure definitions.

But I mean the wiki for crt will tell you that it draws from socialist thinkers, so pretend all you want that it's just a new methodology for looking at history, but we both know it's socialism with a new coat of paint.

I wouldn't mind if it were an elective that kids could choose, but being part of the universal curricular structure is asinine. durmask Pretty sure you have but I'm sure Rob or Adam can hook you up.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
durmask Pretty sure you have but I'm sure Rob or Adam can hook you up.

Okay, Rob and Adam. Hook it up.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
You far right people have had critical race theory explained by Rob, Newjak and Adam. Continually asking the same question is trolling Ziggy.

They have, he's just doing his usual dishonest shit trolling shtick. Meh.

Originally posted by Robtard
They have, he's just doing his usual dishonest shit trolling shtick. Meh. Bingo!

It's a very boring tactic to see and it's 2022 now FFS. Grow up!

I'm trolling, you explaining your definition matters.

If you've posted somewhere else, just link it.

I just think it should be fairly easy to sum up, without getting defensive.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's a very boring tactic to see and it's 2022 now FFS. Grow up! Yup, it really is.

Defining your terms in step one in clear and effective argumentation.
Sophists know this so they intentionally obfuscate the meaning of words, George Orwell criticizes this tendency in 1984.

Saying other people are using juvenile tactics is projecting, but nice try.

What is critical race theory ?

Here's a sample of what I'm asking for.

Q: what is history ?
A: a record of important cultural happenings.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
What is critical race theory ? First off all critical race theory is just semantic argument conservatives want to keep having but they are the only ones who really cares about it. It's the new boogeyman word for them.

When all people actually want to do is make sure history is being taught accurately which includes how race was involved ie George Washington owned slaves. Many founding fathers did. You can call it what you want but that's nothing worth the amount of hassle conservatives keep trying to make it.

Originally posted by Newjak
First off all critical race theory is just semantic argument conservatives want to keep having but they are the only ones who really cares about it. It's the new boogeyman word for them.

When all people actually want to do is make sure history is being taught accurately which includes how race was involved ie George Washington owned slaves. Many founding fathers did. You can call it what you want but that's nothing worth the amount of hassle conservatives keep trying to make it. Bingo.

Conservatives keep making it a thing because "X" amount of their base buy into the lies that kindergartners are being taught "White people are bad!" across schools in America as standard school decorum and this is what CRT is. It's not and it isn't of course.

Originally posted by Newjak
First off all critical race theory is just semantic argument conservatives want to keep having but they are the only ones who really cares about it. It's the new boogeyman word for them.

When all people actually want to do is make sure history is being taught accurately which includes how race was involved ie George Washington owned slaves. Many founding fathers did. You can call it what you want but that's nothing worth the amount of hassle conservatives keep trying to make it. Originally posted by Robtard
Bingo.

Conservatives keep making it a thing because "X" amount of their base buy into the lies that kindergartners are being taught "White people are bad!" across schools in America as standard school decorum and this is what CRT is. It's not and it isn't of course.

Ziggy will ask again next week.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Ziggy will ask again next week. Most likely.

Originally posted by Newjak
First off all critical race theory is just semantic argument conservatives want to keep having but they are the only ones who really cares about it. It's the new boogeyman word for them.

When all people actually want to do is make sure history is being taught accurately which includes how race was involved ie George Washington owned slaves. Many founding fathers did. You can call it what you want but that's nothing worth the amount of hassle conservatives keep trying to make it.

No, critical theories exist. Deconstructionist thinkers like Derrida and Foucault contributed to them as well as the Frankfurt school, which is a colloquialism for a loose association of thinkers that sought to undo the enlightenment. The Frankfurt school includes people like habermas, horkheimer, adorno, Marcuse, among others.

Marcuse's idea were one of the main ideological pillars of the 60s new left movement.

If they were trying to teach more accurate history, it would still be history. This isn't that.

https://newdiscourses.com/2021/12/five-key-points-to-understand-about-critical-race-theory/

This is a video describing the problem with critical theories. I highly recommend watching to understand the other side of the argument for just jump around the site.

I'll know if you made an effort to understand if you can argue my position just as good as I can.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
No, critical theories exist. Deconstructionist thinkers like Derrida and Foucault contributed to them as well as the Frankfurt school, which is a colloquialism for a loose association of thinkers that sought to undo the enlightenment. The Frankfurt school includes people like habermas, horkheimer, adorno, Marcuse, among others.

Marcuse's idea were one of the main ideological pillars of the 60s new left movement.

If they were trying to teach more accurate history, it would still be history. This isn't that.

https://newdiscourses.com/2021/12/five-key-points-to-understand-about-critical-race-theory/

This is a video describing the problem with critical theories. I highly recommend watching to understand the other side of the argument for just jump around the site.

I'll know if you made an effort to understand if you can argue my position just as good as I can. durmask

Originally posted by ilikecomics
No, critical theories exist. Deconstructionist thinkers like Derrida and Foucault contributed to them as well as the Frankfurt school, which is a colloquialism for a loose association of thinkers that sought to undo the enlightenment. The Frankfurt school includes people like habermas, horkheimer, adorno, Marcuse, among others.

Marcuse's idea were one of the main ideological pillars of the 60s new left movement.

If they were trying to teach more accurate history, it would still be history. This isn't that.

https://newdiscourses.com/2021/12/five-key-points-to-understand-about-critical-race-theory/

This is a video describing the problem with critical theories. I highly recommend watching to understand the other side of the argument for just jump around the site.

I'll know if you made an effort to understand if you can argue my position just as good as I can. Yeah Critical Race Theory exists but conservatives look at it as A) a bad thing B) that is being put into everything.

Not everything is CRT. Heck I doubt have the people using it even know what it is or the fact not everything that is about making history more accurately portrayed is CRT.

And you did the thing I was trying to talk about which is turn this into a semantic argument over what CRT is and why it's bad.

So is teaching that the Founding Fathers owned slaves CRT and is it bad? Is teaching about the race based home lender issues that caused minority families to be denied houses CRT and is it wrong do so?

James Lindsay That's the "anti-woke warrior" who claimed he didn't support Trump in 2016 but did so in 2020 because the Left made him. The coward's move, zero accountability for his own actions.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah Critical Race Theory exists but conservatives look at it as A) a bad thing B) that is being put into everything.

Not everything is CRT. Heck I doubt have the people using it even know what it is or the fact not everything that is about making history more accurately portrayed is CRT.

And you did the thing I was trying to talk about which is turn this into a semantic argument over what CRT is and why it's bad.

So is teaching that the Founding Fathers owned slaves CRT and is it bad? Is teaching about the race based home lender issues that caused minority families to be denied houses CRT and is it wrong do so?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory

Read this.
CRT is a subset of this.

Originally posted by Robtard
James Lindsay That's the "anti-woke warrior" who claimed he didn't support Trump in 2016 but did so in 2020 because the Left made him. The coward's move, zero accountability for his own actions.

His choice was to vote for Trump, how is he not owning that ?

Originally posted by ilikecomics
His choice was to vote for Trump, how is he not owning that ?

I literally said why. Repeat: Because he blames the Left in how he voted instead of just saying he's voted for Trump because (he's a Trumper) of his own volition.

It's a classic "not my fault, mother, Timmy made me do it!". Coward's tactic.

Originally posted by Robtard
I literally said why. Repeat: Because he blames the Left in how he voted instead of just saying he's voted for Trump because (he's a Trumper) of his own volition.

It's a classic "not my fault, mother, Timmy made me do it!". Coward's tactic.

I think he was more so saying the left disappointed and left him without a political home. Wouldn't it be more disingenuous to not agree with modern leftism and pretend that he did, in order to keep getting grant money ?

He could of also stayed disappointed with the Left and also not voted for Trump, eg 3rd party, not vote, write in, those were also options instead of voting for Trump and then blaming others for his actions like a coward with zero accountability.

Originally posted by Robtard
He could of also stayed disappointed with the Left and also not voted for Trump, eg 3rd party, not vote, write in, those were also options instead of voting for Trump and then blaming others for his actions like a coward with zero accountability.

I don't even believe in voting. A vote for anyone, from my pov, is saying I want to use the State's gun on tho who didn't vote who I voted for.

But I understand what you're saying now. He's blaming the dog for farting, but in this case the dog is the left. I agree with you.

Good for you?

No, you got that purposely wrong again. Using your analogy: He's the one who farted (voted for Trump) and is blaming the dog (the Left) for his own farts (voting choice) instead of just owning up that he's the one who farted.

But that's still wrong in the sense that one has to fart at some point. When in this scenario he didn't have to fart to begin with, he had other options.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory

Read this.
CRT is a subset of this. A subset is not the entire set though.

And you never answered on if teaching those things is bad.

Originally posted by Newjak
A subset is not the entire set though.

And you never answered on if teaching those things is bad.

Yes, teaching is critical theory, any part of it, is bad. It is corrosive.

Originally posted by Robtard
Good for you?

No, you got that purposely wrong again. Using your analogy: He's the one who farted (voted for Trump) and is blaming the dog (the Left) for his own farts (voting choice) instead of just owning up that he's the one who farted.

But that's still wrong in the sense that one has to fart at some point. When in this scenario he didn't have to fart to begin with, he had other options.

Yeah, I agree with that.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Yes, teaching is critical theory, any part of it, is bad. It is corrosive. So you think teaching the historically accurate statement that the Founding Fathers owned slaves is bad? Really?

Originally posted by Newjak
So you think teaching the historically accurate statement that the Founding Fathers owned slaves is bad? Really?

No, teaching with accuracy is great.
Ideologically based education, not so much.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
No, teaching with accuracy is great.
Ideologically based education, not so much.

What is the ideologically based education you are talking about?

Originally posted by Newjak


What is the ideologically based education you are talking about?

Do you think critical theory is ideologically based ? Let's put aside the argument about whether it's being taught in public schools or not.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Do you think critical theory is ideologically based ? Let's put aside the argument about whether it's being taught in public schools or not. Actually I would argue the curriculum that conservatives want taught is ideological based education.

People wanting to teach about actual history without the filter of removing key aspects because it makes certain people, events, and organizations look bad is accurate education.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Do you think critical theory is ideologically based ? Let's put aside the argument about whether it's being taught in public schools or not. mmm Ziggy please stop!Originally posted by Newjak
Actually I would argue the curriculum that conservatives want taught is ideological based education.

People wanting to teach about actual history without the filter of removing key aspects because it makes certain people, events, and organizations look bad is accurate education. Bingo!

Originally posted by Newjak
Actually I would argue the curriculum that conservatives want taught is ideological based education.

People wanting to teach about actual history without the filter of removing key aspects because it makes certain people, events, and organizations look bad is accurate education.

Im pro homeschooling, so I think anything taught in a public school isn't all that accurate.

Also I agree that right wing ideologically based education is bad.

So to resummarize my opinion on it: if there are ideas from any critical (the critical in critical theory is specialized and not the same critical in critical thinking), ideological, or fallacious source is bad.

If the ideas the right are calling crt are in fact just accurate facts then I would tell them to shut up and homeschool if they don't like it.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
mmm Ziggy please stop! Bingo!

If me and Ziggy espouse the same ideas, what benefit does the sock account provide ?

Calling me Ziggy is just a stand in for a lack of an argument.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
If me and Ziggy espouse the same ideas, what benefit does the sock account provide ?

Calling me Ziggy is just a stand in for a lack of an argument. it really isn't -not Ziggy.