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Fist-fight only, who wins?

https://banshee.fandom.com/wiki/Lucas_Hood

vs

https://kingdom-mma.fandom.com/wiki/Ryan_Wheeler

Wheeler should be the better fighter as he's a star MMA fighter in his universe but iirc, Hood did some superhuman-ish shit, yeah? Survived hits he shouldn't have, explosions.

Lucas Hood beats the shiite out of him

Originally posted by Robtard
Wheeler should be the better fighter as he's a star MMA fighter in his universe but iirc, Hood did some superhuman-ish shit, yeah? Survived hits he shouldn't have, explosions. Yeah I don't know if he's as skilled as Ryan but he likely has better physicals all-around and his damage soak is incredible.

Have not watched Kingdom yet, is it good. If it's Banshee/Warrior level will Binge. Off with Covid just as I got over Typhoid, got diagnosed for a second dose of it Sunday. Coughing a little and very tired, sitting in the Garden a lot, the Mrs and the kids tested negative so went straight to my sister in laws. My cook and driver are also positive so are both in the spare room isolating with me rather than going to their families who are negative. They have a bathroom and flat screen TV, its a very big18 by 18 spare room space, which has a privacy curtains and privacy divider down the middle for more than 1 guest, two small double beds and good windows so they are enjoying it really.we are stocked in the freezer. Can't say I'm having fun, just watched Ozarks today which was depressing as ****. So Banshee type shit would be great, remember Hood beat up a world champion mma fighter, a prison champion and held his own against the king of the underground. Only the guys on Warrior and enter the badlands of that kind of genre beat his character shields imho.

It's kinda a mixed bag at times, but I enjoyed it as a whole. Watch the first 2-3 eps and go from there. I suspect you'll stick with it.

Jonathan Tucker as Jay Kulina is the best character. Dude does a very solid role imo; he kinda carries the show.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/a-kingdom/images/e/ea/Jay_cast_poster.jpg

Originally posted by Robtard
It's kinda a mixed bag at times, but I enjoyed it as a whole. Watch the first 2-3 eps and go from there. I suspect you'll stick with it.

Jonathan Tucker as Jay Kulina is the best character. Dude does a very solid role imo; he kinda carries the show.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/a-kingdom/images/e/ea/Jay_cast_poster.jpg I will watch.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I will watch.

LMK what you think

Originally posted by Robtard
LMK what you think Will do.

Hood wins. Wheeler is more technically skilled but a lot more grounded and realistic when it comes to physicals.

And Kingdom was entertaining enough as a whole, though towards the end, with Nate being shot and killed, it was pretty damn depressing.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's kinda a mixed bag at times, but I enjoyed it as a whole. Watch the first 2-3 eps and go from there. I suspect you'll stick with it.

Jonathan Tucker as Jay Kulina is the best character. Dude does a very solid role imo; he kinda carries the show.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/a-kingdom/images/e/ea/Jay_cast_poster.jpg

It's kind of a shame that we never got to see a fight between Jay and Ryan when both were at their best. Ryan's knee was injured in the fight Jay won and Jay was out of shape and in mental anguish during their rematch that Ryan won.

IMO, Jay was the best of them pound-for-pound, when he was clean and taking fighting seriously.

Originally posted by Robtard
IMO, Jay was the best of them pound-for-pound, when he was clean and taking fighting seriously. When they fought on the street Ryan beat the shit out of him pretty decisively.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
When they fought on the street Ryan beat the shit out of him pretty decisively.

It's been a while since I watched it, but didn't that happen at a time where Jay had been retired for a couple of months (and doing a real estate gig IIRC) while Ryan had still been actively training and fighting? At the level that professional MMA fighters operate, even just a few months actually makes a big difference.

I'd put Jay as a better striker but Ryan definitely has the superior ground game.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
When they fought on the street Ryan beat the shit out of him pretty decisively.


I don't believe Jay was training at the time. Not that I think Jay would have absolutely beat him either had he been training, but I'd bet on it as Jay is a scrapper and a survivor.