Namor vs Immortal Hulk

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lawest9
Namor has always given Hulk a tough fight, even beaten him a few times, but how would he fare against a much more powerful Hulk in the same scenario's?

carver9
He dies

Juntai
hulk

lawest9
Originally posted by carver9
He dies HULK dies???? 😆

carver9
No!!!

carver9
Amplified Namor vs She Hulk (and no, she wasn't amped)...

https://ibb.co/9NHg1ms
https://ibb.co/8bHL8Ww
https://ibb.co/51vKW0r
https://ibb.co/D8JbB74

EcstaticGrace

Stoic
Originally posted by carver9
Amplified Namor vs She Hulk (and no, she wasn't amped)...

https://ibb.co/9NHg1ms
https://ibb.co/8bHL8Ww
https://ibb.co/51vKW0r
https://ibb.co/D8JbB74

Pretty sure that she was amped there Carver. She didn't do anywhere near as well against him when she was green. Not talking about when she was skinny, but when she had the bulk of her cousin Hulk. Not saying that Namor would win here, because he wouldn't, just saying that Winter Jen may have been her strongest or 2nd strongest form ever. Jupiter Jen was likely her strongest form. Well maybe.

lawest9
Originally posted by Stoic
Pretty sure that she was amped there Carver. She didn't do anywhere near as well against him when she was green. Not talking about when she was skinny, but when she had the bulk of her cousin Hulk. Not saying that Namor would win here, because he wouldn't, just saying that Winter Jen may have been her strongest or 2nd strongest form ever. Jupiter Jen was likely her strongest form. Well maybe.

carver9
Originally posted by Stoic
Pretty sure that she was amped there Carver. She didn't do anywhere near as well against him when she was green. Not talking about when she was skinny, but when she had the bulk of her cousin Hulk. Not saying that Namor would win here, because he wouldn't, just saying that Winter Jen may have been her strongest or 2nd strongest form ever. Jupiter Jen was likely her strongest form. Well maybe.

Nope, no amps. The only thing that happened to her was mind controlled. This was an unrestrained She Hulk that Namor never fought.

carver9
Also, her fight against Namor the first time was only two punches thrown and then it was interrupted. 🤷🏾‍♂️

lawest9
Originally posted by carver9
Also, her fight against Namor the first time was only two punches thrown and then it was interrupted. 🤷🏾‍♂️ She does seen to have Namor's number, but as Stoic pointed out......she was amped in the scan you provided.

carver9
No she is not

lawest9
Originally posted by carver9
No she is not Yes she was or she wouldn't have needed the special suit.

carver9
Originally posted by lawest9
Yes she was or she wouldn't have needed the special suit.

A change of cloths doesn't mean someone is amped. All they did was mind control her. Lay eggs in her brain to overcome her defenses. Even after all of that, she fooled them and was still in control. Nothing on panel states she was amped. She was just controlled....

https://ibb.co/QNBCZ2g
https://ibb.co/fHsjHrr
https://ibb.co/tC0Z2Sb
https://ibb.co/zFyv4dV

carver9
Also, this just shows how powerful a Hulk is. The radiation in her mind alone is powerful enough to render an entire countryside.

Damborgson
Bro how could that she hulk not have been amped ??

carver9
Originally posted by Damborgson
Bro how could that she hulk not have been amped ??

Because it was simple mind control unless something else was stated on panel?

@Stoic... Jupiter suit Jen isn't the strongest She Hulk. As shown on panel, Bulky Jen is the strongest recorded version of She Hulk and yes, Jupiter Suit strength was measured...

https://ibb.co/8XthXGp

carver9
And before someone mentions her colors, she was flipping through colors before the mind control fully took place.

First scan is from Avengers #46

https://ibb.co/4ZVyXyr

This scan is from Avengers #47

https://ibb.co/ynMJ1J4

DarkSaint85
Carver is right, she wasn't amped - 68 megatons was enough to be killing her:

https://i.postimg.cc/024S2vB2/RCO011-1641391290.jpg

An important enough plot point that they said it no less than twice in 2 issues:
https://i.postimg.cc/tgQVW5bK/RCO006-1642064306.jpg

Which sounds impressive, but back in the 60s the Russians had a bomb that could do 100 megatons. Plus, she's a Hulk - gamma should be nothing to her. It's like detonating a sun at Superman.

Namor just wasn't that impressive in these issues. Didn't know he was amped, though.

carver9
That's power added to the power she already have within her (that she tends to have problems controlling). It was outright said on panel that this version of She Hulk is a Global threat...

https://ibb.co/HHB3Tbf

DarkSaint85
"She absorbed 68Megatons of gamma warhead....ITS too much"

What is too much? Her power stacked on top of 68 measly megatons? What is the 'it' that they are referring to? It's obvious from the text that the 68 MT is too much for her.

carver9
Ok, she's not the best of absorbers (Ironman referred to the energy as Jen being infected but hey...). What does this have to do with the argument here? Why are you like this? You mentioned this showing to downplay Jen or to use it as a powerscaling for her but you disagree with people mentioning Superman failing to stop a falling turtle in up in the sky, it being too much for him. So you agree with 68 megaton worth of power being too much for She Hulk but you don't agree with a falling turtle being too much for Superman? Your consistency is unbound.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Superman failing to stop a falling turtle

wut

carver9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
wut

Yes and a 3-77-3 multi warhead, enough to break the east coast knocked him the F out. Dark of course will ignore this...

https://ibb.co/1fG9Wck
https://ibb.co/3kWgJQC

It nearly killed him. He had to be revived.

DarkSaint85
Lol that's not my point (aren't you the one who tells people to stay on topic? Is Superman in the thread? I'm sure you are, am happy to quote you, you know me).

I am agreeing with you. She Hulk was not amped in this story, and Namor failing to beat her doesn't look good on him. Bring up Superman all you want (he seems to live in your head lmao), but the fact remains that you can't in one breath argue she's super powerful whilst ignoring that IN THE SAME STORY she nearly died from something RL Russians from the 1960s could build. From gamma radiation, no less, despite being a Hulk.

carver9
Remain consistent Saint. I WILL remember this argument, especially that same story part smile . Anyways, She wrecked Namor and Hulk would do the same. I brought up Supes because everyone and their grandma knows he's your fave.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Remain consistent Saint. I WILL remember this argument, especially that same story part smile . Anyways, She wrecked Namor and Hulk would do the same. I brought up Supes because everyone and their grandma knows he's your fave.

If She Hulk is said to be a global threat (nice use of statements, btw - very consistent lmao) but can be killed by 68 Megatons of the same kind of energy that amps her.....that's a pretty weak Earth that's threatened by that.

The main point here is that gamma rads were killing her.

If I used Superman (lol) sitting in the sun as a durability feat, you'd be crying all day about how it's inadmissible because the Sun amps him, right? Be honest, yes or no?

carver9
But absorbing radiation, large quantities of it has always been a weakness of the Hulk.

I dont get what you mean by the Superman statement. He does have low absorption showings FYI. Her absorption fts might not be great but the power she possess IS Global.

Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
But absorbing radiation, large quantities of it has always been a weakness of the Hulk.

I dont get what you mean by the Superman statement. He does have low absorption showings FYI. Her absorption fts might not be great but the power she possess IS Global.

So how did Bruce Banner survive and turn into Hulk instead of die to begin with....? Genuine question.

And let's see those examples of Hulk having trouble absorbing it. I mean technically different universe and all that, but wasn't Maestro made physically because of him soaking up all the fallout from a nuclear war? Isn't gamma the source he draws from for his dynamic strength? If that drawing from gamma is true.....wouldn't the argument you're making now completely contradict you arguing Hulk getting powerful enough?

lawest9
Originally posted by Delta1938
So how did Bruce Banner survive and turn into Hulk instead of die to begin with....? Genuine question.

And let's see those examples of Hulk having trouble absorbing it. I mean technically different universe and all that, but wasn't Maestro made physically because of him soaking up all the fallout from a nuclear war? Isn't gamma the source he draws from for his dynamic strength? If that drawing from gamma is true.....wouldn't the argument you're making now completely contradict you arguing Hulk getting powerful enough?

carver9
High doses of radiation also killed Maestro and for some weird reason, hitting Hulk with large quantities of radiation hurts him. The gamma bomb that created Hulk killed Maestro. He was overloaded with radiation...

https://ibb.co/v4kpyJ9

Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
High doses of radiation also killed Maestro and for some weird reason, hitting Hulk with large quantities of radiation hurts him.

That doesn't answer my questions, Bootsy.

carver9
I edited the post. I also said gamma hurts Hulk, not Banner.

Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
I edited the post. I also said gamma hurts Hulk, not Banner.

I'll read it.

Originally posted by carver9
High doses of radiation also killed Maestro and for some weird reason, hitting Hulk with large quantities of radiation hurts him. The gamma bomb that created Hulk killed Maestro. He was overloaded with radiation...

https://ibb.co/v4kpyJ9

I have to say--

Originally posted by Delta1938
That doesn't answer my questions, Bootsy.

carver9
Lmao... there are instances where gamma does absolutely nothing against Hulk, then there are instances where it dropped him. You mentioned Banner being able to absorb radiation but Banner has also died from it as well. Then we have this instance of Hulk being overdosed with gamma and had to release all of it because it was too much...

https://ibb.co/NWdzpBp
https://ibb.co/KbNNqWv
https://ibb.co/4Fb74Xw

It's entirely dependent on the writer but the scans above are recent. Banner even mentions it will hurt him.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
But absorbing radiation, large quantities of it has always been a weakness of the Hulk.

I dont get what you mean by the Superman statement. He does have low absorption showings FYI. Her absorption fts might not be great but the power she possess IS Global.

Wait, so you say it's ALWAYS been a weakness, then a few posts later, say it sometimes does nothing..... which is it?

And then, I'm not talking about hurting....I'm talking about KILLING. which is far more severe.

carver9
When I say always, I'm referring to the longevity of this weakness. Yes, there are instances where Kryptonite doesn't drop kryptonioans and radiation doesn't drop Hulks but it being a weakness has consistently been shown enough to prove the points I've been making.

Delta1938
Yeah Bootsy, you're not just contradicting yourself, you still haven't answered my questions entirely. And just scroll up for the quote, unless you concede to suffering from autism.

carver9
Originally posted by Delta1938
So how did Bruce Banner survive and turn into Hulk instead of die to begin with....? Genuine question.

And let's see those examples of Hulk having trouble absorbing it. I mean technically different universe and all that, but wasn't Maestro made physically because of him soaking up all the fallout from a nuclear war? Isn't gamma the source he draws from for his dynamic strength? If that drawing from gamma is true.....wouldn't the argument you're making now completely contradict you arguing Hulk getting powerful enough?

Bruce has died from radiation before. It has literally turned him into dust.

I already posted a RECENT example. I also posted Maestro dying from a high dose of radiation which scratches out your comment about him. He died from the same bomb that made the Hulk because he overdosed on too much radiation.

Gamma is the source of his power but he doesn't need more of it to become more powerful. Don't know why you're mentioning that. Again, there have been instances where he received a power-up but it has been shown to be a weakness more times than not and how is this contradicting? Hulk MAIN power is to get stronger than madder he gets. His internal power is sufficient, Pookie.

Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
Bruce has died from radiation before. It has literally turned him into dust.

I already posted a RECENT example. I also posted Maestro dying from a high dose of radiation which scratches out your comment about him. He died from the same bomb that made the Hulk because he overdosed on too much radiation.

Gamma is the source of his power but he doesn't need more of it to become more powerful. Don't know why you're mentioning that. Again, there have been instances where he received a power-up but it has been shown to be a weakness more times than not and how is this contradicting? Hulk MAIN power is to get stronger than madder he gets. His internal power is sufficient, Pookie.

Like, not only are you not backing your claims(since you're a well known and consistent liar), you're still not answering things.

And don't call me Pookie, I'm calling you Bootsy because like my mom's cat, you're all his, no scratch. But unlike you, she's actually cute.

lawest9
Originally posted by Delta1938
Like, not only are you not backing your claims(since you're a well known and consistent liar), you're still not answering things.

And don't call me Pookie, I'm calling you Bootsy because like my mom's cat, you're all his, no scratch. But unlike you, she's actually cute. Bootsy's Rubber band 😆😆😆

https://youtu.be/husf6po76mU

carver9
Pookie, I already answered everything.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Yes and a 3-77-3 multi warhead, enough to break the east coast knocked him the F out. Dark of course will ignore this...

https://ibb.co/1fG9Wck
https://ibb.co/3kWgJQC

It nearly killed him. He had to be revived.

Wrong. It wasn't the warhead that KOd him. Read the story again, please.

Stoic

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