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America is going to stage a false flag in Ukraine, then blame Russia, to gain popular consent in America to attack Russia.

Similar to the manufactured consent used to legitimize the war on terror.

reeeee?

Are you not aware of the current expansion of NATO into former Warsaw pact countries, which breaks a promise to Gorbachev ?

Are you unaware of the color revolution currently taking place in kazakhstan ?

durmask spending your weekend dutifully gaslighting strangers for putin on a dead movie forum? you must be one of those stable genius 4d chess masters, sharpening your skills. totally normal

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
durmask spending your weekend dutifully gaslighting strangers for putin on a dead movie forum? you must be one of those stable genius 4d chess masters, sharpening your skills. totally normal

No, I come here to spitball.

Do you think color revolutions don't exist ? The CIA has toppled 72 governments, mostly democratically elected ones.

I see you're still a boring sophist.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
durmask spending your weekend dutifully gaslighting strangers for putin on a dead movie forum? you must be one of those stable genius 4d chess masters, sharpening your skills. totally normal

For not being fascists, they sure spend a lot of time carrying water for fascists. Weird.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
For not being fascists, they sure spend a lot of time carrying water for fascists. Weird.

Actually the principle is that interventionism is evil, which youd think people who are against the evils of colonialism would agree with.

I don't care how awful a state is being to it's people, it's not America's job to police the world.

9/11 was a false flag operation to bring about manufactured consent?

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
9/11 was a false flag operation to bring about manufactured consent?

Yes, because it was easily preventable.

Similar to how pearl harbor was known about a week in advance, but was allowed to happen to fuel public opinion to lean towards interventionism i.e. WW2.

http://www.nypress.com/news/fdr-knew-pearl-harbor-was-coming-EBNP1020010614306149999

This article talks about how FDR knew pearl harbor was going to happen a week in advanced.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
America is going to stage a false flag in Ukraine, then blame Russia, to gain popular consent in America to attack Russia.

Similar to the manufactured consent used to legitimize the war on terror.


America doesn't want a war with Russia and Russia doesn't want a war with America, it's not economical for either party.

Tell me, when there's no America/Russia war and your prediction ends up being wrong, what will you pivot to?

Originally posted by Robtard
America doesn't want a war with Russia and Russia doesn't want a war with America, it's not economical for either party.

Tell me, when there's no America/Russia war and your prediction ends up being wrong, what will you pivot to?


As Randolph borne said "war is the health of the state."

Of course it isn't economical for people who earn their wealth and wish to exchange it with others, who also earned it.

Why do you think the American empire has soldiers stationed in over 100 countries ?

Imagine if China had a military camp, in the middle of Ohio, where that practice war games... That's what the u.s. does.

You can look into the origins of American empire building, it hit it's acceleration during the Wilson administration, because Wilson wanted to make the world safe for democracy.

Russia on the other hand doesn't want war, but they are sick of living in a unipolar world where America in like a kid with a magnifying glass torturing the ants or the world.

I won't pivot to anything. If there isn't an attack in Ukraine I'll be happy, regardless or who is attacking. Why would you want violence, unless you're a sadist ?

That's not exactly what you said though, you claimed America would stage a false flag attack in Ukraine to them use as an excuse to attack Russia. One would happen so then the other can.

Even IF (big if) there is an attack in the Ukraine to begin with, whose to say it isn't the obvious aggressor, Russia? Kinda weird for you to outright dismiss Russia attacking Ukraine, when they're the ones moving troops and making aggressive gestures towards Ukraine.

As always, your stanning for Putin is both ridiculous and amusing.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's not exactly what you said though, you claimed America would stage a false flag attack in Ukraine to them use as an excuse to attack Russia. One would happen so then the other can.

Even IF (big if) there is an attack in the Ukraine to begin with, whose to say it isn't the obvious aggressor, Russia? Kinda weird for you to outright dismiss Russia attacking Ukraine, when they're the ones moving troops and making aggressive gestures towards Ukraine.

As always, your stanning for Putin is both ridiculous and amusing.

That's because the leader of Ukraine is u.s. friendly and NATO is encroaching on Warsaw pact soil, which is said it wouldn't.

The false flag is the obvious go to because people like you, with your opinion, exist.

You won't even entertain the idea that america would do a false flag, when America has engaged in multiple false flags.

And even if Russia attacked Ukraine, it's none of America's business.

The same way Russia doesn't attack us for massively influencing the actions of other countries.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
America is going to stage a false flag in Ukraine, then blame Russia, to gain popular consent in America to attack Russia.

Similar to the manufactured consent used to legitimize the war on terror. The neoliberal warhawks in Washington would be down for this. Already they're enticing the public to look at China with fear and hatred to sell them a potential conflict. Toss in the old Russian bogeyman and you got yourself a bona fide new Axis of Evil.


America is pathologically addicted to war and the revenue it generates the MI Complex. Yay capitalism. Woo. At least for all the war it does Americans get to have the best social security, healthcare, public education, food security, and access to affordable housing. Greatest country in the world.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The neoliberal warhawks in Washington would be down for this. Already they're enticing the public to look at China with fear and hatred to sell them a potential conflict. Toss in the old Russian bogeyman and you got yourself a bona fide new Axis of Evil.


America is pathologically addicted to war and the revenue it generates the MI Complex. Yay capitalism. Woo. At least for all the war it does Americans get to have the best social security, healthcare, public education, food security, and access to affordable housing. Greatest country in the world.

Generating profit through war is antithetical to the definition of capitalism, but everything else you got spot on.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Generating profit through war is antithetical to the definition of capitalism, but everything else you got spot on. Frankly, the capitalists don't care about our definitions. A profit generated through conflict is as good as profit generated through fossil fuel extraction. The common denominator is the owners reaping grossly disproportionate profits to the workers who make their business function. If the business is developing and manufacturing chassis for a new armoured vehicle that you convinced Congress is needed for traversing Mali, or integrated circuits for the Hercules fleets, then you will be delighted that public funds are spent on your enterprise. And you will not proportion those profits to the labourers in your plants, the drivers of your transport trucks, or the clerks in your accounting dept. Instead you'll pay them a meager 'minimum wage' that you despise, because you'd get more profits if you were allowed to pay your workers less.

The owner profited immensely, his workers aren't entitled to vacation days, and some foreigners will probably be paid slave wages to dangerously extract the rare earth minerals needed for your technologically sophisticated war materiel. And the multinational that owns the company extracting the minerals will not re-invest their profits into the local African or South American communities that they're taking the resources out of.


One or another, a very few at the top get rich while an increasing level of exploitation emerges the further down the ladder you go. It's the end result of an economic system that prioritizes profits for the owners over the well being of others, and lambasts wealth sharing as "evil socialism" all while hoarding as much they can to themselves. That's the reality of capitalism, "definition" be damned.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Frankly, the capitalists don't care about our definitions. A profit generated through conflict is as good as profit generated through fossil fuel extraction. The common denominator is the owners reaping grossly disproportionate profits to the workers who make their business function. If the business is developing and manufacturing chassis for a new armoured vehicle that you convinced Congress is needed for traversing Mali, or integrated circuits for the Hercules fleets, then you will be delighted that public funds are spent on your enterprise. And you will not proportion those profits to the labourers in your plants, the drivers of your transport trucks, or the clerks in your accounting dept. Instead you'll pay them a meager 'minimum wage' that you despise, because you'd get more profits if you were allowed to pay your workers less.

The owner profited immensely, his workers aren't entitled to vacation days, and some foreigners will probably be paid slave wages to dangerously extract the rare earth minerals needed for your technologically sophisticated war materiel. And the multinational that owns the company extracting the minerals will not re-invest their profits into the local African or South American communities that they're taking the resources out of.


One or another, a very few at the top get rich while an increasing level of exploitation emerges the further down the ladder you go. It's the end result of an economic system that prioritizes profits for the owners over the well being of others, and lambasts wealth sharing as "evil socialism" all while hoarding as much they can to themselves. That's the reality of capitalism, "definition" be damned.

Anyone using coercion is not practicing capitalism, period.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Anyone using coercion is not practicing capitalism, period.

Seeing as there were no rules outlined in the OP;

I predict George R.R. Martin will die before finishing the ASOIAF books.

The identity of Jack The Ripper will be revealed in the next 30 years.

Mohamed Salah will become either the President of Egypt or Prime Minister of Egypt some day.

The United States men's national soccer team will win one of the next 10 World Cups.

Robert Wagner will officially be named as a suspect in the murder of Natalie Wood, whether he will be alive to be charged I don't feel comfortable in predicting.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
explain

Originally posted by samhain
Seeing as there were no rules outlined in the OP;

I predict George R.R. Martin will die before finishing the ASOIAF books.

The identity of Jack The Ripper will be revealed in the next 30 years.

Mohamed Salah will become either the President of Egypt or Prime Minister of Egypt some day.

The United States men's national soccer team will win one of the next 10 World Cups.

Robert Wagner will officially be named as a suspect in the murder of Natalie Wood, whether he will be alive to be charged I don't feel comfortable in predicting.

Idk about the other things mentioned, but George r.r. martin is a good example of how critical acclaim can destroy the process of creativity.

Nt

Originally posted by cdtm
Nt

What's that mean ?

Here's a logical prediction: Trump will start a huge (yuge) anti Muslim campaign focusing primarily on ISIS and blame Biden and Obama for creating ISIS for redneck support but will still narrowly lose 2024. He may even get DiSantos as running mate, but it won't help much.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Here's a logical prediction: Trump will start a huge (yuge) anti Muslim campaign focusing primarily on ISIS and blame Biden and Obama for creating ISIS for redneck support but will still narrowly lose 2024. He may even get DiSantos as running mate, but it won't help much.

Not a bad guess. The clash of civilizations is happening and a bunch of disaffected whites would probably love to finger the Muslim boogey man.

I don't Islam is gross, but not particularly more so than Mormonism.

Most Muslims are peaceful, but I can't understand their backwards religion. No beer? No gambling? No bacon? Come on.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Most Muslims are peaceful, but I can't understand their backwards religion. No beer? No gambling? No bacon? Come on.

You're also not supposed to put it in your wife's pooper either. Allah forbids.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're also not supposed to put it in your wife's pooper either. Allah forbids. I haven't got a wife.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Most Muslims are peaceful, but I can't understand their backwards religion. No beer? No gambling? No bacon? Come on.

No wonder they're all angry at the world.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Idk about the other things mentioned, but George r.r. martin is a good example of how critical acclaim can destroy the process of creativity.


That plays a part no doubt, but I reckon it's the ridiculous sums of money HBO are paying him.

He also probably realizes that the next books are going to be more heavily critiqued than the previous ones given the shows fame that he spends his writing time going over what he's already written meticulously.

Originally posted by samhain
That plays a part no doubt, but I reckon it's the ridiculous sums of money HBO are paying him.

He also probably realizes that the next books are going to be more heavily critiqued than the previous ones given the shows fame that he spends his writing time going over what he's already written meticulously.

Yeah, the money and the acclaim take away the incentive to work. He's super old.

Hopefully the increased scrutiny will produce even better writing.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
America is going to stage a false flag in Ukraine, then blame Russia, to gain popular consent in America to attack Russia.

Similar to the manufactured consent used to legitimize the war on terror.



So....are Lucasfilm animators working overtime to create the footage of Ukrainian warzones, and using their best BOBF-Luke CGI to make videos of Putin declaring war?

KMC's Rightist love stanning for Putin.

Originally posted by Robtard
KMC's Rightist love stanning for Putin. They're puttin' for Putin...

Get it? It was like a golf reference because rich conservatives like that stupid sport because it means they can walk along a rich man's land.

I got it

flirt

Originally posted by Blakemore
They're puttin' for Putin...

Get it? It was like a golf reference because rich conservatives like that stupid sport because it means they can walk along a rich man's land.

https://c.tenor.com/EfNhm55AZIUAAAAC/ohhh-burn.gif

Ukraine is an extension of the American empire and Russia has responded sagaciously and decisively.

Putin's goal was to protect ethnic Russians, who have been getting attacked since the early 2000s by Ukrainian's + the u.s. funded neo Nazis, in the Donbass and to demilitarize Ukraine - and with any luck depose of the c.i.a. installed shadow regime being led by a cross dressing Jewish comedian.

They have done both with minor losses on both sides, and I predict will eventually remove the Ukrainian p.m.

Alot of the footage and photos have been demonstrated as false i.e. photos of Ukrainian p.m. "fighting on the front lines " were pictures from an inspection he did over a year ago.

Sorry I haven't responded in so long, every time I click on a thread it says 502 something something bad gate.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Ukraine is an extension of the American empire and Russia has responded sagaciously and decisively.

Putin's goal was to protect ethnic Russians, who have been getting attacked since the early 2000s by Ukrainian's + the u.s. funded neo Nazis, in the Donbass and to demilitarize Ukraine - and with any luck depose of the c.i.a. installed shadow regime being led by a cross dressing Jewish comedian.

They have done both with minor losses on both sides, and I predict will eventually remove the Ukrainian p.m.

Alot of the footage and photos have been demonstrated as false i.e. photos of Ukrainian p.m. "fighting on the front lines " were pictures from an inspection he did over a year ago.

Sorry I haven't responded in so long, every time I click on a thread it says 502 something something bad gate. Sounds like you're firmly in love with the idea of a noble Putin and noble Russia nobly invading a country that doesn't welcome them.



Please f*ck off with that Republican GOP shit.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Ukraine is an extension of the American empire and Russia has responded sagaciously and decisively.

Putin's goal was to protect ethnic Russians, who have been getting attacked since the early 2000s by Ukrainian's + the u.s. funded neo Nazis, in the Donbass and to demilitarize Ukraine - and with any luck depose of the c.i.a. installed shadow regime being led by a cross dressing Jewish comedian.

They have done both with minor losses on both sides, and I predict will eventually remove the Ukrainian p.m.

Alot of the footage and photos have been demonstrated as false i.e. photos of Ukrainian p.m. "fighting on the front lines " were pictures from an inspection he did over a year ago.

Sorry I haven't responded in so long, every time I click on a thread it says 502 something something bad gate.

So you went from "America will stage a false flag operation in Ukraine to use as an excuse to attack Russia", to "Russia is juts defending itself from American aggression!"

Do you think Putin will even notice you?

It makes me think that the emails about Clinton and Podesta having ties with Ukraine and Biden's son having ties with Ukraine are somewhat justified as taking resources from Ukraine and Putin was all like "NO! WRONG! THEY'RE MINE! LOOK AT ALL MY RUSSIANS I PUT IN THERE!"

More bollocks to be distracted by.

The global elite play out there little games and more innocent people will die. Nothing ever changes does it

Putin's taking a resource grab. The bottom line is do you want them in Putin's hands or NATO/EU's hands?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Sounds like you're firmly in love with the idea of a noble Putin and noble Russia nobly invading a country that doesn't welcome them.



Please f*ck off with that Republican GOP shit.

I don't think any politician is noble. What I do know is that the people in the Donbass have been attacked by Ukrainian's for the past 10 years or so. Which is gross.

He "invaded" Ukraine because a breach of agreement on the u.s. and nato's part.

Im not a republican silly billy, I'm an anarchist. This means I don't like interventionism. Sending weapons and money to the Ukrainian's is interventionism.

I don't believe in childish black and white binaries, Putin doesn't have to be an angelic hero for the u.s. and nato to be despicable.

Originally posted by Robtard
So you went from "America will stage a false flag operation in Ukraine to use as an excuse to attack Russia", to "Russia is juts defending itself from American aggression!"

Do you think Putin will even notice you?

What do you think a false flag is ?

Good dodge, but this claim didn't happen:

Originally posted by ilikecomics
America is going to stage a false flag in Ukraine, then blame Russia, to gain popular consent in America to attack Russia.

Similar to the manufactured consent used to legitimize the war on terror.

When Nazis dressed as polish soliders and burned the Reichstag Hitler used this false flag to invade Poland, then Poland defended itself against invasion.

My prediction was that u.s. would use similar psychological trickery to legitimize it attacking Russia, which would mean Putin would then defend against invasion.

Not sure how you didn't comprehend that.

The point you keep dancing around: your prediction was wrong

And now you're pivoting to "Russia is just defending itself" after Russia invaded and attacked.

Originally posted by Robtard
The point you keep dancing around: your prediction was wrong

And now you're pivoting to "Russia is just defending itself" after Russia invaded and attacked.

Do you think a group used in a false flag wouldn't have to defend itself ? Are you sure you know what false flag means ?

Biden.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Ukraine is an extension of the American empire and Russia has responded sagaciously and decisively.

Putin's goal was to protect ethnic Russians, who have been getting attacked since the early 2000s by Ukrainian's + the u.s. funded neo Nazis, in the Donbass and to demilitarize Ukraine - and with any luck depose of the c.i.a. installed shadow regime being led by a cross dressing Jewish comedian.

They have done both with minor losses on both sides, and I predict will eventually remove the Ukrainian p.m.

Alot of the footage and photos have been demonstrated as false i.e. photos of Ukrainian p.m. "fighting on the front lines " were pictures from an inspection he did over a year ago.

Sorry I haven't responded in so long, every time I click on a thread it says 502 something something bad gate.


What nonsense!! Never write about politics, but here I could not resist. If it's so bad for Russians to live in Ukraine, then why don't they move to live in Russia? I have relatives from Ukraine, people could not leave Kyiv for a week, because the city was bombed from Russia and Belarus! For Putin, his people are nothing! How many soldiers died, the authorities did not even say it on TV to their citizens! From now on, from 02/24/2022, Russians will be branded as murderers! And there is no need to say later that the Russian citizens could not do anything! Could! But they chose to remain silent! There is a lot of evidence of what the Russian soldiers were doing in Bucha, Irpin! How women and girls were raped! It's horrible! And there is no excuse for this!

^EonBlue, still acting f**king weirdo with the games.

Originally posted by Robtard
^EonBlue, still acting f**king weirdo with the games.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
America is going to stage a false flag in Ukraine, then blame Russia, to gain popular consent in America to attack Russia.

Similar to the manufactured consent used to legitimize the war on terror. Anyone remember this thread?

Robtard remembers.

Claim: "America is going to stage a false flag in Ukraine, then blame Russia, to gain popular consent in America to attack Russia."

*That doesn't happen, Russia invades Ukraine instead*

Pivot claim: "Ukraine is an extension of the American empire and Russia has responded sagaciously and decisively."




KMC Rightist and their love of Putin, they might not have agreed on everything, but they all rallied around Putin. Likely still do.

They did indeed. I got sent a wagner group video on whatsapp, didn't realise what it was and pressed play, worst thing I have ever seen.

Terrorist for hire.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
No, I come here to spitball.

Do you think color revolutions don't exist ? The CIA has toppled 72 governments, mostly democratically elected ones.

I see you're still a boring sophist.


This is very wise, he makes sense people!

Originally posted by ilikecomics
That's because the leader of Ukraine is u.s. friendly and NATO is encroaching on Warsaw pact soil, which is said it wouldn't.

The false flag is the obvious go to because people like you, with your opinion, exist.

You won't even entertain the idea that america would do a false flag, when America has engaged in multiple false flags.

And even if Russia attacked Ukraine, it's none of America's business.

The same way Russia doesn't attack us for massively influencing the actions of other countries.


Correct, it's a local problem.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The neoliberal warhawks in Washington would be down for this. Already they're enticing the public to look at China with fear and hatred to sell them a potential conflict. Toss in the old Russian bogeyman and you got yourself a bona fide new Axis of Evil.


America is pathologically addicted to war and the revenue it generates the MI Complex. Yay capitalism. Woo. At least for all the war it does Americans get to have the best social security, healthcare, public education, food security, and access to affordable housing. Greatest country in the world.


Wow, we lost a lot of good posters.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
They did indeed. I got sent a wagner group video on whatsapp, didn't realise what it was and pressed play, worst thing I have ever seen.

Forgot to ask, don't want to see it, but I'm guessing it was their rape and/or torture vids?

Originally posted by Robtard
Forgot to ask, don't want to see it, but I'm guessing it was their rape and/or torture vids? I didn't want to see it, ut was the sledgehammer one. It was disgusting.