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1) Graviton
2) Nefaria
3) Firelord
4) Terrax
5) Magneto
6) Hulk
7) The Collector
8) Thor
9) Gladiator
10) Surfer

Regardless, any of them stops at Nefaria.

Originally posted by lawest9
Regardless, any of them stops at Nefaria.

https://i.ibb.co/H2bXLz8/nef1.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/m93qCDS/nef2.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://i.ibb.co/H2bXLz8/nef1.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/m93qCDS/nef2.jpg

So how far do they get?

Iron Man also beat Nefaria in his 99 Annual

I mean, I think they stop at 1.

But I think they can beat a lot of people on the list. I think virtually all the heralds on the list lose against the team, given Iron Man is there to help them.

Graviton is def a problem. At full power, what stops him from just immobilizing the whole team?

It's better not to treat this list as a gauntlet.

they get one shotted by graviton, who was simultaneously owning classic avengers that included thor and hulk

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Graviton is def a problem. At full power, what stops him from just immobilizing the whole team?

It's better not to treat this list as a gauntlet. Torch and Iron Man both have beaten him solo...

Stops hard at Graviton.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Stops hard at Graviton. https://i.imgur.com/QDbQHBI.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/jo4WNl3.jpeghttps://i.imgur.com/EYh2yiA.jpeghttps://i.imgur.com/lPwgyBJ.jpeg

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
https://i.imgur.com/QDbQHBI.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/jo4WNl3.jpeghttps://i.imgur.com/EYh2yiA.jpeghttps://i.imgur.com/lPwgyBJ.jpeg https://imgur.com/a/ssVLdPLhttps://i.imgur.com/OtARV8d.jpeghttps://i.imgur.com/5gq8osP.jpeg

Oh yes, I know of those times.

Still, Graviton wins this.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh yes, I know of those times.

Still, Graviton wins this. Heat is his Kryptonite. Hawking Radiation for the win.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh yes, I know of those times.

Still, Graviton wins this.
Exactly, that was a ridiculously low showing for Graviton. He destroys.

Originally posted by zopzop
Exactly, that was a ridiculously low showing for Graviton. He destroys. Your talking about a guy who gets rapey has a hammer thrown at him and is Jabbed in the butt by a syringe, who has lost control of his powers and become a Blackmore and a rock monster... Those are low showings.

Honestly, Whirly is making a fair point here.

Graviton fluctuates, but heat does seem to work on him.

The Collector is sort of a problem, because of nigh-instant resurrection ability Elders seem to possess these days.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


Honestly, Whirly is making a fair point here.

Graviton fluctuates, but heat does seem to work on him.

The Collector is sort of a problem, because of nigh-instant resurrection ability Elders seem to possess these days.
Another classic Graviton moment from the FF where Torch owned him

https://i.imgur.com/lPwgyBJ.jpeg

Yeah, despite classic collectors defeat by Hawkeye, modern Collector poses a problem. He is still a clown though.

To make it worse for Graviton... It was Thor who Jabbed him in the butt.

https://i.imgur.com/yNiHiMx.jpeg still classic

Good scans! But still nothing to say how Graviton loses here.

If someone like ****ing Thor could sneak up on Gravi, imagine what Wolverine would do

Lmao. But forum rules of 500 meters, open plain, line of sight and both sides ready to fight....not sure how Graviton loses.

Ninja vanish trick.

But seriously, what stops Torch from beating his ass again --- especially since supposedly he is amped now, as shown against CRC Anni?

Or was Gravi weakened there?

He can see things through gravity (as in, doesn't need sight). Logan would still have mass.

Several things - one, as you say Johnny is amped, we don't take amped versions usually.

Secondly, Johnny isn't cutting loose with his team and without his sister to shield the team

Thirdly, Graviton can just send them all into space, and crucially, keep them there.

He still missed Thor, just because of his hammer acting as a distraction. Thor is one of the least stealthy characters in the comic medium as a whole.

Here, he'll be busy with half a dozen distractions.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
we don't take amped versions usually.

Unless they're current versions. Then we absolutely do.

I agree it makes sense to wait longer to see if it sticks, though. It's just not something KMC was ever prone to do.



He has the precise control over his powers, it's not like he went full Nitro there.



Good tactic, but what stops Torch from shrugging off the effects of his powers again?

Graviton just cutting loose and crushing them all?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Good scans! But still nothing to say how Graviton loses here. he gets distracted and Jabbed in the butt again. This Time by Wolverine with 6 claws.

@Stilt:

So you say that Graviton would be 'distracted'. Have we forgotten who he is? I mean, taking teams out is his forte. Fighting multiple opponents and multitaksing is basically half his respect thread, lol:

https://imgur.com/a/8vCEbMu
https://imgur.com/LJLyznQ
https://imgur.com/a/EnecB2U
https://imgur.com/7fBKa7O
https://imgur.com/a/IBWUBcI
https://imgur.com/a/ddMofcS
https://imgur.com/dp3aPIc
https://imgur.com/a/brhPb2P
https://imgur.com/a/nh8heUv
https://imgur.com/liKxmBV

For a guy who isn't used all that much, he's pretty...well-versed in fighting multiple opponents.

As for Thor, when he tried his best lightning:
https://imgur.com/a/3EVwHGe

Note Graviton is still holding IM down etc.

As for temperature? Here Graviton - in space - controls the temp, even as he creates a brand new atmosphere:
https://imgur.com/a/4jGmUq6

Senses? Logan will 'ninja vanish? lol

Here he SPECIFICALLY targets someone in Australia, whilst he's in LA, using a pebble from China, lol.
https://imgur.com/qWQ3Qqz

Just to see if he could.

Here he detects an intangible person through her gravimetric disturbances:
https://imgur.com/BG8GcJp

Poor Logan, dragging all that heavy adamantium about....

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
he gets distracted and Jabbed in the butt again. This Time by Wolverine with 6 claws.

If I'd put bugs bunny dressed as a dame, Graviton and Nefaria the rapey goatee gang would have no chance.

Ah dont worry there's always next time.

In any case, I know how you operate Whirly, I'm now wise to your tricks!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ah dont worry there's always next time.

In any case, I know how you operate Whirly, I'm now wise to your tricks! Do you remember when a weak as shit Thunderbolts team killed him or Moonstone told him he was a loser and he gave up. Come on DS, Graviton got lobotomised by Iron Man. What's stopping that happening again here as Wolvie jabs his buttocks.