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Thoughts?

Mad Jim Jaspers solos.

MJJ, Wanda and Franklin beat him up.
Everyone else dies in the crossfire

Originally posted by BestEverNoob
MJJ, Wanda and Franklin beat him up.
Everyone else dies in the crossfire

yup

Wanda and Franklin aren't doing jack vs the IG. This is up to MJJ and Omega Legion.

Why couldn't Thanos just dump MJJ in a void realm, where he is powerless?

Are we still recognizing Wanda warp as omniversal or not

Originally posted by Galan007
Why couldn't Thanos just dump MJJ in a void realm, where he is powerless?

How would Thanos know that information though

Jaspers, Legion and Franklin probably match him.

Hm, Marquis of Death count as well?

Originally posted by Diesldude
Where in the 50% that died? I meant might have been in that group of 50% that died. Stupid auto correct lol.

Originally posted by MrMind
Are we still recognizing Wanda warp as omniversal or not



How would Thanos know that information though IG lol.

Originally posted by deft


Hm, Marquis of Death count as well?

You can include him as well. Basically any omega level mutant in marvel even if they're not originally from 616.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's like asking where the Watcher and LT et Al were when Wanda was twisting reality.

If they had been in the plot, the same thing would have happened to them. Thanos as of that moment was considered to be God. This came well before the retcon over a decade after Thanos Quest was released.

Originally posted by Stoic
If they had been in the plot, the same thing would have happened to them. Thanos as of that moment was considered to be God. This came well before the retcon over a decade after Thanos Quest was released.

So your answer is that they didn't do anything thanks to plot devices.

Which answers your question as well.

Originally posted by Classic NES
You can include him as well. Basically any omega level mutant in marvel even if they're not originally from 616.

And their most powerful versions, right? Lifeseed Nate Grey, White Phoenix Crown and maybe Jamie Braddock.

Originally posted by deft
And their most powerful versions, right? Lifeseed Nate Grey, White Phoenix Crown and maybe Jamie Braddock.

Yup, and also this is Classic IG.

Originally posted by Diesldude
IG lol.

ig omniscience level is limited

Originally posted by Classic NES
Yup, and also this is Classic IG.

Thank you. So, if this is classic IG, Thanos could obliterated them.

Imo, Jaspers is the only character who can beat Thanos, Jasper's potential is unlimited, but he's not smarter to win and is extremely weak in the void.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Thoughts? durpalm

true legion would be a much bigger threat to the ig then the overhyped mjj.

wanda, mod, braddock, franklin would get low-diff'd.

Okay. My interpretation may be incorrect, or inaccurate, but it is all that I had to go on. Thanos with the IG had full mastery of everything within his reality. No other could stand up to him, etc. At that time, Thanos was the it guy on the cover.

Marquis of Death multiversal...

Infinity Gauntlet Universal...

mod never displayed any multiversal feats. he was universal at best, and that's only IF you take that weird psi battle between him and clyde (wherein mod seemed to control eternity) at face value. the ig shits all over him.

What does being multiversal or even universal even mean?
We go by feats. Just tell what feats were done. I'm tired of these names or titles that have no meaning in themselves.

MoD steps back in time and destroys the Universe before thanos gets the Infinity Gaunlet. The stones are either destroyed or become trinkets without a Universe to control. Simple. Marquis moves onto another universe, where he still has power.

Or MoD puts a thought in Thanos head and removes the stones from the Gaunlet while Thanos imagines lady Death is sucking his cock, and for entertainment, MoD does what Thanos has always wanted to do, put the stars out. Thanos comes round to see lady Death rutting with the Matquis. The two skeletons ****ing looks like the stop motion from Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger. They are laughing and mocking Thanos the cuck.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
MoD steps back in time and destroys the Universe before thanos gets the Infinity Gaunlet. The stones are either destroyed or become trinkets without a Universe to control. Simple. Marquis moves onto another universe, where he still has power. No leaving the battlefield. Time travel to the past is limited to the start of the match.

Originally posted by h1a8
No leaving the battlefield. Time travel to the past is limited to the start of the match. Why gimp the Marquis H1, this is who he is and what he does. Time and Universes are his thing, he sends thanos to another Universe with a thought and the IG has no power there, because he is Multiversal.

All established, current continuity omega level mutants i.e Jean Grey, Quentin Quire, Exodus, Jamie Braddock, Mister M, Elixir, Legion, Proteus, Vulcan, Hope, Iceman, Storm and Magneto would lose horribly to the IG. Its not even a debate.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Why gimp the Marquis H1, this is who he is and what he does. Time and Universes are his thing, he sends thanos to another Universe with a thought and the IG has no power there, because he is Multiversal. You can Bfr others but can't leave the battlefield via ownself. Those are the forum rules.

Feats of sending someone to another universe with a thought?

Originally posted by h1a8
You can Bfr others but can't leave the battlefield via ownself. Those are the forum rules.

Feats of sending someone to another universe with a thought?

In Fantastic Four the MOD teleported counterparts of the Fantastic Four from across the multiverse into 616.

https://imgur.com/hnMeryW

https://imgur.com/lqIguCX

He doesnt need to demonstrate a feat of the reverse i.e teleporting someone out of 616 with this in mind.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In Fantastic Four the MOD teleported counterparts of the Fantastic Four from across the multiverse into 616.

https://imgur.com/hnMeryW

https://imgur.com/lqIguCX

He doesnt need to demonstrate a feat of the reverse i.e teleporting someone out of 616 with this in mind.

Doesnt mean he can warp reality on a multiversal scale. Just means he can open up gateways between universes and teleport people from those universes through it.

Infinity Gauntlet wins imo if Thanos isnt ****ing around.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In Fantastic Four the MOD teleported counterparts of the Fantastic Four from across the multiverse into 616.

https://imgur.com/hnMeryW

https://imgur.com/lqIguCX

He doesnt need to demonstrate a feat of the reverse i.e teleporting someone out of 616 with this in mind.
I agree. Teleporting others to 616 is equivalent to Teleporting others out of 616.

Well if he is part of the team then he can possibly win.
But
Thanos has the time, space, mind, and reality gem and can halt time or become everywhere at once. Or become faster than any being in existence. There are countless ways for Thanos to defend against being bfrd especially if he knows what MOD can do (reading his mind, etc).

The fight can go either way depending on what the characters decide to do at the start. Like a quick draw.

If I was Thanos then I would win always.

Originally posted by h1a8
I agree. Teleporting others to 616 is equivalent to Teleporting others out of 616.

Well if he is part of the team then he can possibly win.
But
Thanos has the time, space, mind, and reality gem and can halt time or become everywhere at once. Or become faster than any being in existence. There are countless ways for Thanos to defend against being bfrd especially if he knows what MOD can do (reading his mind, etc).

The fight can go either way depending on what the characters decide to do at the start. Like a quick draw.

If I was Thanos then I would win always.

I dont believe Marquis did anything to demonstrate he was beyond the IG. Was just addressing your point about teleportation.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I dont believe Marquis did anything to demonstrate he was beyond the IG. Was just addressing your point about teleportation.
I'm with you here, the only thing he did that arguably mades him comparable was take command over Eternity, which was kind of implicit.

https://i.imgur.com/rsO8enDm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/4enMWl8m.jpg

Fantastic Four (1961) #569

But as demonstrated by Adam Warlock, Eternity wasn't much of a threat to the wielder of the Infinity Gauntlet.

https://i.imgur.com/3CLGEXDm.jpg

Infinity Watch #1

Not to mention that the Marquis of Death was taken out by Plank Heat fires (accessed by the Cosmic Rod) and I don't think that would've mattered much to someone with the Infinity Gauntlet.

https://i.imgur.com/y5bxfrIm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/0iA8pPrm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/6Ul37JGm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Up1tgnMm.jpg

Fantastic Four (1961) #569

Originally posted by Astner
I'm with you here, the only thing he did that arguably mades him comparable was take command over Eternity, which was kind of implicit.

https://i.imgur.com/rsO8enDm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/4enMWl8m.jpg

Fantastic Four (1961) #569

But as demonstrated by Adam Warlock, Eternity wasn't much of a threat to the wielder of the Infinity Gauntlet.

https://i.imgur.com/3CLGEXDm.jpg

Infinity Watch #1

Not to mention that the Marquis of Death was taken out by Plank Heat fires (accessed by the Cosmic Rod) and I don't think that would've mattered much to someone with the Infinity Gauntlet.

https://i.imgur.com/y5bxfrIm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/0iA8pPrm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/6Ul37JGm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Up1tgnMm.jpg

Fantastic Four (1961) #569

Ive never known how to take that cosmic battle between MOD and Clyde, was it a psychic battle, was it a reality warping battle using constructs or were the actual entities featured controlled and pitted against each other. The scenes very ambiguous. If they were utilizing the actual entities id place MOD on par with the IG but i still believe Thanos with the IG would win as using the IG doesn't fatigue the user to my knowledge as its an external tool that doesnt draw upon the users resources (let me know if im wrong) whereas MOD's power is his own and using it at high levels weakens him as we saw following his battle with Clyde. This is a good point to touch on your reference to MOD being affected by Johnnys planck temperature attack. To be fair it was indicated that happened because he had over exerted himself battling Clyde.

So i think whilst MOD would be able to put up a good fight against the IG and would be one of the only beings who could, he would eventually exhaust himself operating at the high levels needed to combat the IG and he would lose in a head on confrontation. MOD would have to resort to BFR to render the IG useless.

Yeah, I remain entirely unconvinced that MoD could do, well, much of anything against a competent IG-user. He could *try* BFR, I guess... But again, I am simply not convinced that MoD's depth of power within a given universe is superior to the IG's, based on the actual feats he displayed. I think Thanos would just chuckle at the attempt and say "heh, nice try". /shrug

And even IF we assume that MoD was literally controlling a version of Eternity during that ambiguous scene with Clyde(ie. his n00b counterpart), that still does not slingshot him to a level comparable to the IG, imo. MoD was rather taxed after said battle, and was outright owned by planck heat afterward. Like Astner said, I don't see a competent IG-user struggling much at all against those same forces... Especially when we've seen the IG own the likes of Eternity on a few different occasions, rather easily.

srug

I think in the same Universe MoD would struggle, and probably lose. He is gimped by forum rules, but if he acts outside the Universe, which he undoubtedly could, where the IG can't affect him... if the battle started a Universe apart...

Doesnt matter, he still has to touch the universe he tries to affect.

Originally posted by Thinkerer
Doesnt matter, he still has to touch the universe he tries to affect. Why? Just make a couple of other universes crash into it, like universes were doing with Hickman's multiversal incursions. it's not like MoD gives a shit about collateral.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, I remain entirely unconvinced that MoD could do, well, much of anything against a competent IG-user. He could *try* BFR, I guess... But again, I am simply not convinced that MoD's depth of power within a given universe is superior to the IG's, based on the actual feats he displayed. I think Thanos would just chuckle at the attempt and say "heh, nice try". /shrug

And even IF we assume that MoD was literally controlling a version of Eternity during that ambiguous scene with Clyde(ie. his n00b counterpart), that still does not slingshot him to a level comparable to the IG, imo. MoD was rather taxed after said battle, and was outright owned by planck heat afterward. Like Astner said, I don't see a competent IG-user struggling much at all against those same forces... Especially when we've seen the IG own the likes of Eternity on a few different occasions, rather easily.

srug agree. mod, like mjj, is extremely overrated by some

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
agree. mod, like mjj, is extremely overrated by some

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Why? Just make a couple of other universes crash into it, like universes were doing with Hickman's multiversal incursions. it's not like MoD gives a shit about collateral.

When has MOD shown the capacity to weaponize a whole universe like that?

His top feats from my understanding were making a sun go supernova, teleporting a thousand alternate F4 members into 616 and potentially (the feats ambiguous) taking control of Abstract mbodies and unknown apparently cosmic entities to fight his counterpart with) Even if that feat was taken literally and not written off as a psychic battle or use of constructs via reality warping, it still wouldn't evidence capacity for throwing universes around.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
When has MOD shown the capacity to weaponize a whole universe like that?

His top feats from my understanding were making a sun go supernova, teleporting a thousand alternate F4 members into 616 and potentially (the feats ambiguous) taking control of Abstract mbodies and unknown apparently cosmic entities to fight his counterpart with) Even if that feat was taken literally and not written off as a psychic battle or use of constructs via reality warping, it still wouldn't evidence capacity for throwing universes around. He destroyed millions of Universes according to the comics GS.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
He destroyed millions of Universes according to the comics GS.

Yeah but that was over time, off panel under unknown circumstances. It infers hes extremely powerful, but in terms of evidenced capacity that would be making a sun go Supernova, teleporting in a thousand F4 members to 616, time travel and potentially controlling Abstract mbodies. But the last feat is ambiguous and unverifiable.

I think MOD's top tier and would defeat the likes of Franklin Richards, but im not convinced hes IG level.

On the flipside to give you some support cos i love me some Whirly one could argue the full expression of the IGs power was for Thanos to basically become Eternity, the controlling sentience of reality:

https://imgur.com/aYx6bTU

Whereby MOD simultaneously rendered Eternity and other cosmics puppets to fight his battles for him:

https://imgur.com/YEd7GjR

A greater feat than merely blasting an Mbody away imo



The problem is the scenes ambiguous.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Yeah but that was over time, off panel under unknown circumstances. It infers hes extremely powerful, but in terms of evidenced capacity that would be making a sun go Supernova, teleporting in a thousand F4 members to 616, time travel and potentially controlling Abstract mbodies. But the last feat is ambiguous and unverifiable.

I think MOD's top tier and would defeat the likes of Franklin Richards, but im not convinced hes IG level.

On the flipside to give you some support cos i love me some Whirly one could argue the full expression of the IGs power was for Thanos to basically become Eternity, the controlling sentience of reality:

https://imgur.com/aYx6bTU

Whereby MOD simultaneously rendered Eternity and other cosmics puppets to fight his battles for him:

https://imgur.com/YEd7GjR

A greater feat than merely blasting an Mbody away imo



The problem is the scenes ambiguous. You see, as with all comics old pal it can be taken as is or argued as ambiguous. I take it as is, in regards to universal destruction we see him put all the stars out in one with little to no effort. As Miller does throughout that run he has inconsistently built in to the plot, but hey, that's comics. Haha, and I love you too.