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Thank you for making my point, trolls. There is way too much nonsense online — too much name-calling, too much dishonesty, too many conspiracy theories. And there is a disturbing tendency for online flash mobs to create an echo chamber of crackpot opinions.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
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Thank you for making my point, trolls. There is way too much nonsense online — too much name-calling, too much dishonesty, too many conspiracy theories. And there is a disturbing tendency for online flash mobs to create an echo chamber of crackpot opinions.


And who gets to decide whats what? What stops legitimate speech being wrongly lableled as these things, and squashed?

You realize one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. Asking for censored speech is asking for biased judgements.


Let people say what they want, and let people decide for themselves whats relevent.

He's literally complaining about mean words on the internet.

And every single example he gave has kernals of truth. Sounds like he needs to grow a thicker skin, or avoid social media. Don't call for moderation because you can dish it out but not take it.

durpoop Two triggered posts in a row Cd, can you do a third

4D performance art!

Keep the faith

Stay Whirly!

Regarding Musk, I'm more interested in whether or not he got compensated for by US goverment for all those trucks full of Starlink terminals he's delivered to Ukraine.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Regarding Musk, I'm more interested in whether or not he got compensated for by US goverment for all those trucks full of Starlink terminals he's delivered to Ukraine.


You mean like in a war profiteering way?

I don't believe SpaceX was lying about donations, but there's probably some mix of purchases and donations.


Good Pr for the US to pay for some, after all.

The only good that could come from Musk owning Twitter is if that shitshow finally burns to the ****ing ground.

Otherwise, no, he shouldn't own it. He's a tool.

Twitter was a fun way to text your friends without using your phone bill, but it destroys the point if all your friends and followers can see your tweets and your details.

At least here we're anonymous.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The only good that could come from Musk owning Twitter is if that shitshow finally burns to the ****ing ground.

Otherwise, no, he shouldn't own it. He's a tool.

He's an egomaniac for sure.

Kind of par for the course with these moguls though. Steve Jobs infamously asked prospects if they were virgin's, feet propped up on the table.

Originally posted by cdtm
He's an egomaniac for sure.

Kind of par for the course with these moguls though. Steve Jobs infamously asked prospects if they were virgin's, feet propped up on the table. Why did Bill Gates's wife divorce him?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Why did Bill Gates's wife divorce him?

Dunno. Doubt we'll ever really know, they both kept it pretty close to the chest.

Doubt it's his fault or her fault, or really anyone's fault. It's just one of those things that could happen to anyone, and you either get crushed by it or move on.


They chose to move on, so best wishes to them.

https://www.hola.com/us/celebrities/20220303310208/why-did-melinda-french-gates-divorce-bill-gates/

https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/world-news/us/952773/links-between-bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-examined

Never used Twitter, never plan too, so don't really care of Musk ends up owning it and turning it into some complete shitshow because he's read too many mean tweets and his fragile ego can't handle it.

But I would laugh if the douichebag isn't allowed to have the new toy he so sorely wants, on that merit alone.

Originally posted by cdtm
You mean like in a war profiteering way?

I don't believe SpaceX was lying about donations, but there's probably some mix of purchases and donations.


Good Pr for the US to pay for some, after all.

War-profiteering is too strong of a word and not adequate here.

I mean the recent articles about it:

U.S. quietly paying millions to send Starlink terminals to Ukraine, contrary to SpaceX claims

If Elon is willing to turn Twitter into a radical free speech, anything-goes kind of platform, then I sincerely hope he gets his way.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
War-profiteering is too strong of a word and not adequate here.

I mean the recent articles about it:

U.S. quietly paying millions to send Starlink terminals to Ukraine, contrary to SpaceX claims

Seems there's some level of donation from Musk going on, but they made it seem like it was full on donations initially. Wouldn't be surprised if the true levels of donation keeps dropping the more people dig.

Musk is ranked as the wealthiest person on the planet, he could easily afford to float this entirely and he wouldn't feel it one bit, and it would help to boost his image.

Originally posted by Robtard
Seems there's some level of donation from Musk going on, but they made it seem like it was full on donations initially. Wouldn't be surprised if the true levels of donation keeps dropping the more people dig.

Musk is ranked as the wealthiest person on the planet, he could easily afford to float this entirely and he wouldn't feel it one bit, and it would help to boost his image.

He's only wealthy is the same way that Elizabeth Holmes was wealthy. Via the ridiculously inflated valuations of his companies. Most of his ideas have been complete trash. The Boring Company, Hyperloop, Starlink, Neuralink, Tesla Solar Roofs...none of them even come close to competing with their peers or are just not viable technologies.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
He's only wealthy is the same way that Elizabeth Holmes was wealthy. Via the ridiculously inflated valuations of his companies. Most of his ideas have been complete trash. The Boring Company, Hyperloop, Starlink, Neuralink, Tesla Solar Roofs...none of them even come close to competing with their peers or are just not viable technologies.

He's still frikken uber wealthy though, even if it's not the estimated 270+ bil.

He's pretty safe with electric cars, as that's the automotive future, at least for personal cars. Though gas/petrol isn't going away, just be used less and less.

I hadn't heard his solar panels were subpar? I actually thought the opposite, as you hear nothing but good news about his house batteries and those are connected with the solar panels. My knowledge is probably outdated here.

Originally posted by Robtard
Seems there's some level of donation from Musk going on, but they made it seem like it was full on donations initially. Wouldn't be surprised if the true levels of donation keeps dropping the more people dig.

Musk is ranked as the wealthiest person on the planet, he could easily afford to float this entirely and he wouldn't feel it one bit, and it would help to boost his image.

I was there when it started - Ukrainian minister tweeting his requests to Musk, Musk replying, delivering the goods, then delivering them again...

But the most recent news kinda make it look pre-organized or not nearly as generous as it seemed to be.

Still, even if he was getting paid from the beginning, that sort of involvement is better than Jeff Bezos and his Amazon, which did a whole lot of nothing. Took them a good while to suspend their activities in Russian Federation as well, if memory serves.

Originally posted by Robtard
He's still frikken uber wealthy though, even if it's not the estimated 270+ bil.

He's pretty safe with electric cars, as that's the automotive future, at least for personal cars. Though gas/petrol isn't going away, just be used less and less.

I hadn't heard his solar panels were subpar? I actually thought the opposite, as you hear nothing but good news about his house batteries and those are connected with the solar panels. My knowledge is probably outdated here.

Tesla has never made money from cars. Its made money selling carbon credits to other car makers but without that and its hundred million from bitcoin it would lose about 200m a year.

Their solar roofs are shit compared to insulation and normal solar panels. They actually used as a selling point that during a snow storm the only house in the neighbourhood that had a tesla roof was the only house that the snow had melted off the roof...showing that their roofs were horrendous at insulating the house.

Their tesla semis will never happen. Huge numbers of people have already paid for a tesla truck they'll never receive.

He just brain farts too much crap out into the world that he has zero understanding of. Eventually he comes to a realisation and then allows other people to waste their money on his shitty ideas which is why he "open sourced" hyperloop. Because he finally realised that making vacuum tubes hundreds of miles long is just impossible.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Tesla has never made money from cars. Its made money selling carbon credits to other car makers but without that and its hundred million from bitcoin it would lose about 200m a year.

Their solar roofs are shit compared to insulation and normal solar panels. They actually used as a selling point that during a snow storm the only house in the neighbourhood that had a tesla roof was the only house that the snow had melted off the roof...showing that their roofs were horrendous at insulating the house.

Their tesla semis will never happen. Huge numbers of people have already paid for a tesla truck they'll never receive.

He just brain farts too much crap out into the world that he has zero understanding of. Eventually he comes to a realisation and then allows other people to waste their money on his shitty ideas which is why he "open sourced" hyperloop. Because he finally realised that making vacuum tubes hundreds of miles long is just impossible. I was going to type "Tesla's cars worth is banked on what it will be able to do in the future and where they're positioned with car battery/motor tech", but that's exactly based on what you initially said, inflated evaluations of what may come to pass.

Damn, Musk's even more of a charlatan than I already though.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
If Elon is willing to turn Twitter into a radical free speech, anything-goes kind of platform, then I sincerely hope he gets his way.

I half joked in Comic Vs, but 4chan really is what free speech absolutism looks like.


So I hope Elon Musk is prepared for that.

Just because they can use your favorite n-word, doesn't mean it's a free speech absolutism.

You can still cross a line there. Just share some of your views there and observe your router exploding in front of you.

Originally posted by cdtm
I half joked in Comic Vs, but 4chan really is what free speech absolutism looks like.


So I hope Elon Musk is prepared for that.
Twitter being turned into another 4chan would be a beautiful and terrifying thing to behold.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Regarding Musk, I'm more interested in whether or not he got compensated for by US goverment for all those trucks full of Starlink terminals he's delivered to Ukraine. the guy didn't become the richest person on the planet by doing shit for free.

Musk wouldn't turn Twitter into a "bastion of free speech", it would be Musk's personal views of what free speech is.

Which is fine, if he owns it, do whatever he likes.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Just because they can use your favorite n-word, doesn't mean it's a free speech absolutism.

You can still cross a line there. Just share some of your views there and observe your router exploding in front of you.


Isn't that just them using their free speech to drown out mine?


Unless you mean they actually ban you, which would surprise me for 99.9 percent of...


Scratch that, 100%. Forgot about some of the lolipalooza con they're known for.

What liability comes from allowing, say, anti-vax posts?


That's just someones opinion, and Twitter is not a publisher. Flat earthers and moon hoaxers have always been with us without issue before these disinformation witch hunts.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
He's only wealthy is the same way that Elizabeth Holmes was wealthy. Via the ridiculously inflated valuations of his companies. Most of his ideas have been complete trash. The Boring Company, Hyperloop, Starlink, Neuralink, Tesla Solar Roofs...none of them even come close to competing with their peers or are just not viable technologies. Bingo!Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Tesla has never made money from cars. Its made money selling carbon credits to other car makers but without that and its hundred million from bitcoin it would lose about 200m a year.

Their solar roofs are shit compared to insulation and normal solar panels. They actually used as a selling point that during a snow storm the only house in the neighbourhood that had a tesla roof was the only house that the snow had melted off the roof...showing that their roofs were horrendous at insulating the house.

Their tesla semis will never happen. Huge numbers of people have already paid for a tesla truck they'll never receive.

He just brain farts too much crap out into the world that he has zero understanding of. Eventually he comes to a realisation and then allows other people to waste their money on his shitty ideas which is why he "open sourced" hyperloop. Because he finally realised that making vacuum tubes hundreds of miles long is just impossible. Bingo x2

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
the guy didn't become the richest person on the planet by doing shit for free.

Well said.

Then again, you have Gates, who needed to do a whole shitload of charity stuff before losing the top spot.

Originally posted by Robtard
Never used Twitter, never plan too, so don't really care of Musk ends up owning it and turning it into some complete shitshow because he's read too many mean tweets and his fragile ego can't handle it.

But I would laugh if the douichebag isn't allowed to have the new toy he so sorely wants, on that merit alone.

Twitter is not a bad thing per se, it depends on who & how chooses to use it (looks at Orange Man).

Musk doesn't own 100% of it, no real change is gonna happen.

Musk own 9% of Twitter, he's wants to buy the other 91% for 46.5bil, make it private and run it as he sees.

Didn't you get the memo?

Cdtm wants to be sane. Not gonna happen, either.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cdtm wants to be sane. Not gonna happen, either.

Depends on how committed his mysterious "partners" are.

No real reason it can't happen, if the money's there.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cdtm wants to be sane. Not gonna happen, either.

I have mixed views, Musk has already said "final offer", only to come back with 3.5bil more. Twitter board members are largely against it, but money does have a way of changing minds and 46.5bil is a lot of money. Especially if he manages to liquidize another 3.5bil and up his offer.

Who knows, could all be some game from Musk to give his Teska stocks a bump, as it has. He's worth 5bil more on paper because of the offer.

Unlike with Todd becoming sane, Musk buying twitter is *possible*, yes.

But he's also likely to lose interest with it soon - he's a rich boy playing with plenty of toys and always looking for new ones.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Unlike with Todd becoming sane, Musk buying twitter is *possible*, yes.

But he's also likely to lose interest with it soon - he's a rich boy playing with plenty of toys and always looking for new ones.

Definitely possibility.

Wouldn't even be surprised if they end up saying yes to his offer and then he says "never mind".

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Unlike with Todd becoming sane, Musk buying twitter is *possible*, yes.

But he's also likely to lose interest with it soon - he's a rich boy playing with plenty of toys and always looking for new ones.


It could also be a Lex Luthor game.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7kwKFhW0AAXmi6.jpg

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Adventures-of-Superman-1987/Issue-454?id=29496#22

Honestly, I can't say I'm not enjoying Elon's posting style

https://i.ibb.co/TmKByk4/emu.png

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Honestly, I can't say I'm not enjoying Elon's posting style

https://i.ibb.co/TmKByk4/emu.png You really are a bastard.

Twitter is an absolute shit show. I'm no fan of Musk, but I think it would be hard for him to make it worse than it already is. And I'm all for him opening it up as he claims, though it is doubtful that that would end up being the case.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
And there is a disturbing tendency for online flash mobs to create an echo chamber of crackpot opinions.

Sounds like Twitter right now.

Originally posted by Siggyp
You really are a bastard.

That's why you love me, Martin.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ_LIpjVgAApdQ8?format=jpg&name=small

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Honestly, I can't say I'm not enjoying Elon's posting style

https://i.ibb.co/TmKByk4/emu.png You really are a bastard.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7kwKFhW0AAXmi6.jpg


Just reposting to ask: Doesn't this make you want to smoke a cigar?


I LOVE the Post Crisis Lex cigar smoking scenes. The writer or artist must really like his smokes, the way they turn the simple act of lighting up into an event.

Why does Lex look like the new penguin

DONT BEE THAT GUIE

Anyway...

I agree giving control to a single Billionaire isnt a viable solution.

Decentralised social media platforms built on blockchain technology is the only viable long term answer.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I agree giving control to a single Billionaire isnt a viable solution.

Decentralised social media platforms built on blockchain technology is the only viable long term answer. but we live in a capitalist system...

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I agree giving control to a single Billionaire isnt a viable solution.

Decentralised social media platforms built on blockchain technology is the only viable long term answer.
You have to buy an NFT every time you want to make a post.

Originally posted by Blakemore
but we live in a capitalist system...


If Capitalism is about Billionaires controlling what we say and think then its time to be rid of it.


Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
You have to buy an NFT every time you want to make a post.


Better than keeping your money in the bank tbh.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
If Capitalism is about Billionaires controlling what we say and think then its time to be rid of it.





Better than keeping your money in the bank tbh. Time for some revolutions I think.

but they have all the money. \o,o/?

Originally posted by Blakemore
but they have all the money. \o,o/? Once the guillotine is set up in the squares that won't matter!

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I agree giving control to a single Billionaire isnt a viable solution.

Decentralised social media platforms built on blockchain technology is the only viable long term answer.


How would that even work?

I follow this one blogger who keeps talking about a corporate run government, and smart contracts for government functions, and a token to override the board members.


I don't get any of it, but I do know business and government ideally has very different goals. And that a cryptocurrency based government would likely give those who hoarded crypto control over government.

So another oligarchy, if not a corporatcracy.

Originally posted by cdtm
How would that even work?

I follow this one blogger who keeps talking about a corporate run government, and smart contracts for government functions, and a token to override the board members.


I don't get any of it, but I do know business and government ideally has very different goals. And that a cryptocurrency based government would likely give those who hoarded crypto control over government.

So another oligarchy, if not a corporatcracy.


If its decentralised then no single person or corporation controls it. There will be a ton of nodes distributed between those who want them. Then to get anything blocked or have new developments the majority of node holders would have to agree to it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
If its decentralised then no single person or corporation controls it. There will be a ton of nodes distributed between those who want them. Then to get anything blocked or have new developments the majority of node holders would have to agree to it.


So an anarchy.

Why do we need crypto for this? Anarchists have been calling for such a system since before computers, and no one ever listened.

Originally posted by cdtm
So an anarchy.

Why do we need crypto for this? Anarchists have been calling for such a system since before computers, and no one ever listened.


Its decentralised. Not anarchy. We arent talking about running the country without a leader here. Just social media and YouTube type platforms belonging to the people.

Its blockchain technology that makes such a process feasible.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Its decentralised. Not anarchy. We arent talking about running the country without a leader here. Just social media and YouTube type platforms belonging to the people.

Its blockchain technology that makes such a process feasible.

So wait, content gets moderated by majority rule?

It's an old canard, but lets say the majority happened to be Nazi's.

I say NFT Dudebros like Gary Vee should be president of the true NWO illuminati.

Hope he unbans Trump

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Hope he unbans Trump
While banning Biden.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
While banning Biden.

Whilst banning every other account on it.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Whilst banning every other account on it. On fire!

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Whilst banning every other account on it.
And renaming the whole platform to 'Trumper'.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
And renaming the whole platform to 'Trumper'. likee

Imagine he left 2 accounts. Trump's and his own and every time Trump tweets, Elon replies with "I've got way more money than you" or "you'll never be as rich as me"

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Imagine he left 2 accounts. Trump's and his own and every time Trump tweets, Elon replies with "I've got way more money than you" or "you'll never be as rich as me" That would be brilliant, imagine bigger. Imagine if he left Trumps all the women who have accused Trump of sexual molestation and Amber Heards.

Love it.

Seeing all the loons crying about it is hilarious. Best case scenario, Musk ****s up majorly and Twitter becomes irrelevant.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Did you edit my title Imp? Come on, at least admit twatter is a better name than twitter.

Titter is better:

https://i.ibb.co/vk0YNsj/aogx4g-A-460s.jpg

Originally posted by cdtm
I can't read Max Boot without chuckling.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/1514570168730636290




The same Max Boot who works for Washington Post, who's motto is "Democracy dies in darkness".


He's essentially saying Democracy dies in the sun.
'Content moderation' in this case is a code word for censorship.

Originally posted by cdtm
So wait, content gets moderated by majority rule?

It's an old canard, but lets say the majority happened to be Nazi's.


Probably less chance of that than a single billionaire having his own bias.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Probably less chance of that than a single billionaire having his own bias.

A bias against moderation would be a refreshing change from the biases of Jeff Bezos.

Originally posted by Robtard
Musk wouldn't turn Twitter into a "bastion of free speech", it would be Musk's personal views of what free speech is.

Which is fine, if he owns it, do whatever he likes.

I'm really concerned by his words, there. Like...
Did he buy Twitter for the sole purpose of reinstating Donald Trump to it?

Trump has struggled to get his message out since he got banned by both Twitter and Facebook. If Musk is complicit in giving this man a platform to continue his election lies and other things...

Donald Trump has gotten plenty of press, and has his own very popular blog. And his packed rallies.

Will there be more porn on Twitter should be the only question being answered.

Originally posted by cdtm
A bias against moderation would be a refreshing change from the biases of Jeff Bezos.


Bias is bias. And any bias on who can tweet will be back to square one. Except youll be more okay with whose banned and whose allowed.


Originally posted by cdtm
Donald Trump has gotten plenty of press, and has his own very popular blog. And his packed rallies.


His blog? Lol

Originally posted by roughrider
I'm really concerned by his words, there. Like...
Did he buy Twitter for the sole purpose of reinstating Donald Trump to it?

Trump has struggled to get his message out since he got banned by both Twitter and Facebook. If Musk is complicit in giving this man a platform to continue his election lies and other things... White South African of a certain age and Trump...

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Bias is bias. And any bias on who can tweet will be back to square one. Except youll be more okay with whose banned and whose allowed.





His blog? Lol


Except we have that bias now. Musk is a lateral move at worst.


And at best no more moderation.

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1518677066325053441/photo/1


Oh shit oh shit, this is not good.


Read between the lines here, "authentic all humans".


Meaning no more anonymity. Meaning the feds get a list of all provocateurs.


This has never been about free speech, it's been about the federal Gestapo rounding people up in the dead of night and sending them to labs to have their personalities rewired.

Originally posted by cdtm
https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1518677066325053441/photo/1


Oh shit oh shit, this is not good.


Read between the lines here, "authentic all humans".


Meaning no more anonymity. Meaning the feds get a list of all provocateurs.


This has never been about free speech, it's been about the federal Gestapo rounding people up in the dead of night and sending them to labs to have their personalities rewired. Fantastic, if he does it, great job Elon!

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Fantastic, if he does it, great job Elon!


I read the exact same plot in Transformers. Senator Proteus of Cybertron promised the Decepticons full political status if they could round up 10,000 signatures.

Then he intended to drag all 10,000 names to a network of underground facilities called "The Institute", where they literally rewire personalities in a lab.


You just know the US has something like that.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Fantastic, if he does it, great job Elon!

Creamed my pants and double posted.

Originally posted by cdtm
I read the exact same plot in Transformers. Senator Proteus of Cybertron promised the Decepticons full political status if they could round up 10,000 signatures.

Then he intended to drag all 10,000 names to a network of underground facilities called "The Institute", where they literally rewire personalities in a lab.


You just know the US has something like that. cd am I reading this right? You want to be rewired and made likeable?Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it's official rightists are flipping their shit over personal responsibility for what they say and do.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
it's official rightists are flipping their shit over personal responsibility for what they say and do.

Originally posted by roughrider
I'm really concerned by his words, there. Like...
Did he buy Twitter for the sole purpose of reinstating Donald Trump to it?

Trump has struggled to get his message out since he got banned by both Twitter and Facebook. If Musk is complicit in giving this man a platform to continue his election lies and other things...

Musk will definitely give Trump his Twitter back, Trump literally has a large cult following him and millions of users = $$$ for Twitter.

While taking Twitter private will offer Musk more power, there's still laws, legalities and laws allow people to be sued for what they say on social media. eg If Trump goes back on Twitter and gets his cult to attack people again, Twitter could be held liable in part.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
it's official rightists are flipping their shit over personal responsibility for what they say and do.



"Defeating the spam bots, and authenticating all humans." -Elon Musk

I'll believe it when I see it, but that would be a good start in improving Twitter, people having to stand by what they've said instead of hiding behind the anonymity of a screen, considering I keep hearing "new public square" regarding social media. Still not going to use it though.

Originally posted by cdtm
Except we have that bias now. Musk is a lateral move at worst.




Yeah thats true. Just dont see whats to celebrate here.

I guess rightists are just happy that Trump will likely be back on twitter. Although im sure his own staff and slightly more sane supporters found his constant insane tweeting embarrassing.

Presumably he'll have to rewrite the T&Cs before he can unban anyone. Might be a while in that case.

Originally posted by cdtm
And at best no more moderation.

No moderation would make Twitter liable for any illegal activity that takes place on its platform. Musk is going to learn very quickly that his free speech absolutist pipe dream will not be possible within the framework of laws in every country in which Twitter operates.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
McDonald's is currently suing the Taylor Company who provides and services the ice cream machines. McDonald's has an exclusive contract with the Taylor Company, so they cannot purchase machines from other manufacturers, or hire other companies to service the machines. In their lawsuit, McDonald's alleges that the Taylor Company deliberately sabotages the machines to rack up services fees.

Wow.

Took them quite a while, after spending so many years as a meme material.

Originally posted by Robtard
Trump himself has being avoiding using Truth Social because it was an abortion from day one. This would be like the android Zuckerberg not using FaceBook, just a very bad look.

It's likely Twitter will just siphon more people away from Truth Social if Musk does a large unbanning sweep.

Can't see Truth Social going public, considering it's from the start dismal performance, something huge needs to change.



ergo, I look forward to Trump being sued after he tweets "Election. Was. Still. Stolen!" at 3:30am while sitting on the toilet trying to shit.

Trump is being required by the owners to start using Truth Social, or they are going to sue him.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
And none the size of Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube. And they all based in countries like the Phillipines, where there are no laws against hosting that content. The U.K. has much more restrictive speech laws than the U.S., and companies that want to operate there have to follow those laws. Sorry, but Twitter is not 8chan.
True, but it is based in the U.S.(where I think 4chan is also based), so I think Elon's Twitter could get away with dramatically reduced moderation if that's where he wants to take it. As far as the U.K., I really don't think they would have the balls or even the ability to realistically ban Twitter because people on there were tweeting no-no words.

EDIT: For example, I live in a EU country with anti-Nazi and anti-communist laws and I can access The Daily Stormer and websites promoting/glorifying communism just fine.

4chan is in the US, but this is yet another situation where size matters. No one gives a shit about 4chan because it's comparatively small to the giants like FB and Twitter.

8chan is in the Philippines, run by the father and son duo behind Qanon. They've hosted child pornography on their site because they just don't care in that country.

Size does matter, yes, but it matters both ways. Imagine banning 8chan or even 4chan and banning freaking Twitter.

You see how they move the goal posts?



They justified censorship on the basis it is a private companies right to censor. Now, they're starting the cries for hate speech laws.

They'll make any argument to avoid mean words, but can't be assed to simply block those they hate.

I've rarely used twitter, but some people do a lot.

I think most people don't care and it's more of an elitist thing to appeal to teenagers. Unless you're a celebrity, you grow out of it.

This really isn't an issue and if it doesn't work for Musk, it'll be sidelined or taken over.

Originally posted by cdtm
You see how they move the goal posts?



They justified censorship on the basis it is a private companies right to censor. Now, they're starting the cries for hate speech laws.

They'll make any argument to avoid mean words, but can't be assed to simply block those they hate.

What are you ranting about now. My post had nothing to do with what should or shouldn't be censored.

Was that just about sad plea for attention?

Originally posted by Blakemore
I've rarely used twitter, but some people do a lot.

I think most people don't care and it's more of an elitist thing to appeal to teenagers. Unless you're a celebrity, you grow out of it.

This really isn't an issue and if it doesn't work for Musk, it'll be sidelined or taken over.

He did mention a subscription model as opposed to an ad based one.


Not sure how many would actually pay for what is free elsewhere.

Originally posted by cdtm
You see how they move the goal posts?



They justified censorship on the basis it is a private companies right to censor. Now, they're starting the cries for hate speech laws.

They'll make any argument to avoid mean words, but can't be assed to simply block those they hate.

What goalposts?

The content moderation rules in place by social media companies are in place to comport with the laws in the countries in which they operate. They are not going to host content that makes them open to legal liability.

If the Phillipines wants to let 8chan host child pornography, that is on them. But no company operating in the U.S. will allow it. Hence, why Musk is going to learn very quickly that his free speech absolutist platform is a pipedream.

Twitter is twatter

Originally posted by cdtm
They justified censorship on the basis it is a private companies right to censor.
It still is. Doesn't mean they have to approve of the change in management.


Why are you acting like this is something new? You've been complaining about it for years.


So is this advice for someone without object permanence or what?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Hence, why Musk is going to learn very quickly that his free speech absolutist platform is a pipedream.


Yup.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Twitter is twatter

Musk: No, it's Titter!

https://i.ibb.co/vk0YNsj/aogx4g-A-460s.jpg

So he's a t!t?

Edit: why is the word t i t censored?

I can't believe they actually named it the "Disinformation Governance Board". Sounds like something SNL would cook up as a parody.


Even WaPo writers say its badly named.

it's*

If you want to be possessive, it's just "i t s" but if you wan't to make a contraction the it's "i t apostrophe s," scalawag.

it rubs the lotion on it's skin

Until it gets the hose again.

Originally posted by Blakemore
So he's a t!t?

Edit: why is the word t i t censored? no he's a ****!

https://mobile.twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1520790249957429248? ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm
%5E1520790249957429248%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fmarkets%2Fpanicked-cnn-guest-wonders-how-were-going-control-channels-communications-country

Take it from an expert, you can take any number of mean words, slanders, or disinformation used against you.

It's called having a thick skin.

My personal measure of maturity is in how one handles a personal insult. Lot of leaders with more ego then maturity out there unfortunately.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
no he's a ****! lol

This is funny:


https://mobile.twitter.com/wiczipedia/status/1353723553754066947? ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm
%5E1353723553754066947%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdailystormer.cn%2Fcensorious-lo-latine-lo-cubane-says-not-aware-of-comrade-ninas-tiktok-videos%2F

Some double digit K people on Twitter are trolls? Well no shit!


A war on trolling has about as much of a chance of stopping trolling as the war on drugs did on stopping drugs. Good to see our government is consistent in picking their battles.

If Musk wants to lesson trolling on Twitter, best thing to do is make it so only verified people/accounts can post. That will keep a lot of the garden variety trolls away who rely on being able to say shit and face zero backlash.

Which Musk mentioned he wanted to do, the verified accounts.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah actually.

Not to say people should just take insults with a smile either. But I just remember the kind of person who, if they asked for a favor and you said no, they'd appeal to your humanity and make you want to do that favor.

Not just yell at you in frustration, because you're not doing what they want.



And i use this example because I actually witnessed a father shaming his daughter about not eating her vegetables. Told her words like "I thought you were smart enough to behave. I guess I was wrong." She looked 8.

That guy could be managing other people, and he can't even treat his own daughter with respect. Ned Price treated AP reporter Matt Lee just like that man treated his daughter.



How this relates to Twitter and the Disinformation Board, is that the conversation feels like short fused assholes arguing with other short fused assholes. They don't understand how to handle criticism, they don't understand diplomacy, all they know it the stick and not the carrot.

That's how empires fall, my friend. Rome fell by in fighting.



Sorry I'm not feeling like you answered my question. Or maybe you did with the "yeah actually" but I'm not following.

Do you include Trump in the people you're complaining about who have thin skin?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Sorry I'm not feeling like you answered my question. Or maybe you did with the "yeah actually" but I'm not following.

Do you include Trump in the people you're complaining about who have thin skin?

Trumps skin is so thin, it's transparent. That isn't orange skin, that's just what it looks like when you can see someones organs.

Originally posted by cdtm
Trumps skin is so thin, it's transparent. That isn't orange skin, that's just what it looks like when you can see someones organs.

https://www.cnet.com/deals/amazon-prime-day-deals-under-25/?ftag=CAD-03-10aaj8j

Twitter takes Elon Musk to court

Twitter has sued Elon Musk to compel him to buy the social media company for $44 billion - a deal the world's richest person said last week he was calling off.

The lawsuit, filed in Delaware's Court of Chancery on Tuesday, accuses Musk of hypocrisy and bad faith in his dealings with Twitter. It sets Twitter and Musk up for a lengthy, expensive and high-stakes battle in which a once-reluctant seller will try to force the hand of a now unwilling buyer. -snip




The Musk fanboys went full 'Rrrreeeeeee!' when Musk announced he was no longer interested in buying "saving" Twitter, now the fool's being sued.

Originally posted by Robtard
The Musk fanboys went full 'Rrrreeeeeee!' when Musk announced he was no longer interested in buying "saving" Twitter, now the fool's being sued.

lol

Funny how this has turned into a giant clusterf#ck.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Musk: No, it's Titter!

https://i.ibb.co/vk0YNsj/aogx4g-A-460s.jpg

Are you making fun of his accent? Shame shame..

This became ugly.

High profile lawyers want to profit again?

More like Musk was playing assclown games again and now high profile lawyers are going to profit.

Well Musk has it now!

Makes zero difference to me. I don't use Twatter.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Makes zero difference to me. I don't use Twatter. Me neither but I live in tge same reality, with the people who use it, and are influenced by it.

Anyone who gets influenced by mongos on twitter deserves all the anger and misery they experience in their lives.

Trump will be back on Twitter.

Probably not soon though as there would need to be a terms and conditions change implemented first.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Anyone who gets influenced by mongos on twitter deserves all the anger and misery they experience in their lives. but they impact our world, look at Jan 6th.

And now they exist in perpetual anger and misery while I go about my day with an unperturbed smile on my face.