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How darw Ursula. If Italian voters choose far right wing, that is their business. Fair and free elections are to be respected.

Originally posted by cdtm
Fair and free elections are to be respected.

Uh-huh.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Uh-huh.

Uh-huh yeah.

Russia meddled in American elections. They were rightly called on it because it violated a principal: state sovereignty.


To threaten Italy with sanctions because they may elect far right officials is absolutely meddling. Either sovereign elections are to be respected, or they aren't.

The moment you say "Respect elections, except if the far right is elected", is the moment you drop taking a principled stance.

Originally posted by cdtm
Uh-huh yeah.

Russia meddled in American elections. They were rightly called on it because it violated a principal: state sovereignty.


To threaten Italy with sanctions because they may elect far right officials is absolutely meddling. Either sovereign elections are to be respected, or they aren't.

The moment you say "Respect elections, except if the far right is elected", is the moment you drop taking a principled stance.

Pretty much

Maybe Joe Biden will suggest another regime change. Do overs for results of Democratic elections we don't like is part of our rules based order.

Originally posted by kevdude
Pretty much

Wow.. Only now reading this reply.


I'll be honest, I just reflexively assumed I was gonna be negged again, and wrote that snippy reply based on that. Didn't expect anyone to agree with me.


But yeah, thanks for the upvote.

Originally posted by cdtm
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How darw Ursula. If Italian voters choose far right wing, that is their business. Fair and free elections are to be respected.


^ January 6th 2021 insurrection down-player

Originally posted by Robtard
^ January 6th 2021 insurrection down-player

You mean the Jan. 6 riot that is currently being investigated and has resulted in many prosecutions, with more to come? The internal matter that was handled internally?

The thing that is not remotely related to the other thing?

Originally posted by cdtm
Uh-huh yeah.

Russia meddled in American elections. They were rightly called on it because it violated a principal: state sovereignty.


To threaten Italy with sanctions because they may elect far right officials is absolutely meddling. Either sovereign elections are to be respected, or they aren't.

The moment you say "Respect elections, except if the far right is elected", is the moment you drop taking a principled stance.

Showing once more that you don't know anything about them pesky foreigners. The EU can't sanction Italy.

Props for being deliberately obtuse though. 👍Andy Dufresne would disapprove though.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Showing once more that you don't know anything about them pesky foreigners. The EU can't sanction Italy.

Props for being deliberately obtuse though. 👍Andy Dufresne would disapprove though.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eus-von-der-leyen-delivers-veiled-warning-italys-right-wing-2022-09-23/



The specifics don't really matter, so much as the threat.

If not sanctions, then what "tools"? And why would the "wrong party" justify said tools?

How does it look to the voting public if such a prominent individual makes these threats? "Vote for the appropriate party or else there will be consequences".

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Showing once more that you don't know anything about them pesky foreigners. The EU can't sanction Italy.

Props for being deliberately obtuse though. 👍Andy Dufresne would disapprove though. CDTM is at this point just ridiculous. What happened to the obtuse Governor..?

Her tools are "she spoke to". Did Poland and Hungary give one single f**k about what she had to say? They did not. Italy doesn't have to either. Specifically it's about what she thinks Italy's policy on immigration is going to be now that Meloni has been voted in. Which will be similar, presumably, to Poland and Hungary in that what is classed as "third country immigration" (non EU) will be almost nothing.

Meloni isn't even far right, the Left have lost it.

She supports the nato, what far righty supports the nato

Originally posted by cdtm
Meloni isn't even far right, the Left have lost it.

She supports the EU, what far righty supports the EU. durpalm

Originally posted by cdtm
Meloni isn't even far right, the Left have lost it.

She supports the nato, what far righty supports the nato

Well when you live in an oddball country where the right now cucks for and bows to Putin over it's NATO allies I can understand your confusion.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
durpalm

I mean, it's kind of odd opposing one and supporting the other anyways. Nato is essentially EU and friends.

cdtm's hypocrisy aside, did Italy elect a far-right fascist again? I heard something about it.

yup, they sure did.

F%#k.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
F%#k. Meloni isn't even far right

Originally posted by cdtm
durpoop

Originally posted by cdtm
Meloni isn't even far right, the Left have lost it.

She supports the nato, what far righty supports the nato

The US Far-Right, which you claimed to be a part of and which is now the majority of the Right in America, is so far to the Right, that by comparison the Brothers of Italy party seems center or even maybe even to the Left from your Far-Right point of view.

But in reality the Brothers of Italy are a Far-Right populist and nationalist party, which has its roots in fascism.

That, or maybe you're just ignorant. 50/50

Originally posted by Robtard
The US Far-Right, which you claimed to be a part of and which is now the majority of the Right in America, is so far to the Right, that by comparison the Brothers of Italy party seems center or even maybe even to the Left from your Far-Right point of view.

But in reality the Brothers of Italy are a Far-Right populist and nationalist party, which has its roots in fascism.

That, or maybe you're just ignorant. 50/50

Sounds legitimate.

So another butthurt fascist is elected in Italy. They got boats up the ass over there...

Originally posted by Blakemore
So another butthurt fascist is elected in Italy. They got boats up the ass over there...


That, that isn't how butthurt works... Normally you call someone thar if they keep losing elections, or have sour grapes for some reason.


When you're on top, you're the one hurting butts, not getting butted...

Originally posted by Blakemore
So another butthurt fascist is elected in Italy. They got boats up the ass over there...

The Napoli pizza is so damn good though...

Originally posted by Blakemore
So another butthurt fascist is elected in Italy. They got boats up the ass over there...

they sure do. they even have an entire naval fleet on the ocean floor

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
they sure do. they even have an entire naval fleet on the ocean floor

https://c.tenor.com/0moEwsoYZfsAAAAM/lmao-crying-laughing.gif

So is Russia, Italy, and Belarus going to be the new Axis now?

Originally posted by Lestov16
So is Russia, Italy, and Belarus going to be the new Axis now?

And Hungary.