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No prep
No BFR



So Superman is going 2 f!:& you up!

You can call upon one Superheroe or Supervillain in Marvel U that is high tier or same tier as Superman to save you.. Whos ur pick and do you get f!:ed up or not ?

Doctor Strange because of his magic.

Originally posted by Supermex
No prep
No BFR



So Superman is going 2 f!:& you up!

You can call upon one Superheroe or Supervillain in Marvel U that is high tier or same tier as Superman to save you.. Whos ur pick and do you get f!:ed up or not ?

Would've chosen Hulk but Superman can get around him to kill me. I would say Silver Surfer. He can grant me Superman like powers just in case Superman blitz past him or he could warp me out of existence temporarily until he easily takes care of Superman.

Isca the Unbeaten. I'd bet she wouldn't be able to save me.

Originally posted by Magnon
Isca the Unbeaten. I'd bet she wouldn't be able to save me.



You die when Superman f#;&s you down

Originally posted by Magnon
Isca the Unbeaten. I'd bet she wouldn't be able to save me. Isca kills you. Superman never manages to f*ck you up. Isca saved you from Superman. She wins the bet.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85


You die when Superman f#;&s you down

Originally posted by Smurph
Isca kills you. Superman never manages to f*ck you up. Isca saved you from Superman. She wins the bet.
I thought whomever I called was compelled to help/protect me? Otherwise, why would the OP include MU supervillains as well? They certainly wouldn't risk their own lives just to try to help some random person they don't even know.

Originally posted by Magnon
I thought whomever I called was compelled to help/protect me? Otherwise, why would the OP include MU supervillains as well? They certainly wouldn't risk their own lives just to try to help some random person they don't even know. but that runs headlong into the whole reason you're using Isca. She can't lose but at various times that means that she guarantees her win condition by betraying her allies.

You're relying on the absolute nature of Isca's powers, which would be undone if she isn't left to any means of "winning"

Originally posted by Magnon
I thought whomever I called was compelled to help/protect me? Otherwise, why would the OP include MU supervillains as well? They certainly wouldn't risk their own lives just to try to help some random person they don't even know.


😂 😂 😂

Magnon is right

Captain America of course.


Steve Rogers ALWAYS finds a way, it's his super power.

Originally posted by Magnon
I thought whomever I called was compelled to help/protect me? Otherwise, why would the OP include MU supervillains as well? They certainly wouldn't risk their own lives just to try to help some random person they don't even know.
As Isca puts it, her own death in itself can be a victory for her.

Her killing you is protecting/helping you. Read OP again; Superman is coming to f#;& you up! A quick painless death is protecting you from the horrors of whatever a bloodlusted Kryptonian is about to do to your tender human flesh.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
As Isca puts it, her own death in itself can be a victory for her.

Her killing you is protecting/helping you. Read OP again; Superman is coming to f#;& you up! A quick painless death is protecting you from the horrors of whatever a bloodlusted Kryptonian is about to do to your tender human flesh.




😂 😂

U need help Darky 😂
Save the his poor soul

I call upon TOAA, then pray for my life Superman doesn't make quick work of him

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
As Isca puts it, her own death in itself can be a victory for her.

Her killing you is protecting/helping you. Read OP again; Superman is coming to f#;& you up! A quick painless death is protecting you from the horrors of whatever a bloodlusted Kryptonian is about to do to your tender human flesh.
Overruled by the thread starter.

Where?

I am Superman and Superman has done this.

I feel my best chance 2 survive this is Silver Surfer in my opinion

How long do I have? And how long do I have to stay away from Superman?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How long do I have? And how long do I have to stay away from Superman?

You have til the time ur pick ko's or kills Superman

Then I pick Magik.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then I pick Magik.


Magik gonna ko or kill Superman?

Hmmmmmm

Does the battle take place in Marvel? Does my pick get access to all their normal people, resources etc?

Originally posted by Smurph
Hmmmmmm

Does the battle take place in Marvel? Does my pick get access to all their normal people, resources etc?

Battle takes place in MU
One on one combat
No prep
No bfr

Originally posted by Supermex
Magik gonna ko or kill Superman?

I'll play the loooong game, she will have some magical doohickey that can help.

QUOTE=17622657]Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then I pick Magik.

Darky i think Magik is getting crushed then hes going 2 f!:k you up!
How are u and Magik surviving this?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'll play the loooong game, she will have some magical doohickey that can help.


😂 😂

Wouldn't Dr.Strange be the better choice in this case ?

Originally posted by Supermex
QUOTE=17622657]Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then I pick Magik.

Darky i think Magik is getting crushed then hes going 2 f!:k you up!
How are u and Magik surviving this?

We can hide in Limbo, where she is (was - I am specifically picking her when she was still) Queen of Limbo. So it'll be pretty comfortable for me.

Time passes differently there too, not to mention she is plenty fast on her own to get us in there.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then I pick Magik.

She gets speed blitzed. Nice pick.

Squirrel Girl off panel

Originally posted by carver9
She gets speed blitzed. Nice pick.

Oh?

How fast is she?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh?

How fast is she?

As fast as carver9 wants her to be

Originally posted by Supermex
Battle takes place in MU
One on one combat
No prep
No bfr Hmm ok.

I choose Doctor Doom.

Originally posted by Smurph
Hmm ok.

I choose Doctor Doom.


Superman turns him into a can of tuna unles u have a plan on what Doom is going 2 do 2 save ur skin ?

So far i think Carver and i make it out of here....

As i believe Silver Surfer is jus more versatile and overall more powerful than Superman..

Originally posted by Supermex
Superman turns him into a can of tuna unles u have a plan on what Doom is going 2 do 2 save ur skin ? I do have a plan, yes.

Originally posted by Smurph
I do have a plan, yes.



😂 😂

Originally posted by Supermex
So far i think Carver and i make it out of here....

As i believe Silver Surfer is jus more versatile and overall more powerful than Superman..

Why wouldn't I be ok

Because Magik lost Limbo, nerd

I specifically picked the version who was still Queen I want to be a sugarbaby, a Queen's Consort. Stop trampling on my dreams.

Originally posted by Magnon
Overruled by the thread starter. Isca is compelled to protect you, yes.

She protects you with a merciful death. Incidentally, she wins the bet.

GG

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I specifically picked the version who was still Queen I want to be a sugarbaby, a Queen's Consort. Stop trampling on my dreams. oooh ok

I specifically pick a version of Doom with his shields up

Autoshields would be allowed. Then Doom should Ovoid Mind Swap.

See, Supermex

A plan.

Originally posted by Smurph
See, Supermex

A plan.


😂 😂
Sounds good 2 me !

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh?

How fast is she?

Not close to Superman speed. She gets the Namor treatment when he fought Hyperion. Who's your next pick?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Autoshields would be allowed. Then Doom should Ovoid Mind Swap.

Lol... how strong are Doom auto shields and please provide scans?

I pick Lois Lane.

Originally posted by carver9
Not close to Superman speed. She gets the Namor treatment when he fought Hyperion. Who's your next pick?

How fast is she?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How fast is she?

As fast as Thor.

She's actually FTL in reaction speeds. And is faster, not than Thor, but Mjolnir

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She's actually FTL in reaction speeds. And is faster, not than Thor, but Mjolnir

I'm guessing you're using Mjlonir at its peak speeds when the comic never dictated Mjlonir was moving that fast? How is she as fast as light or faster? Please provide proof.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm guessing you're using Mjlonir at its peak speeds when the comic never dictated Mjlonir was moving that fast? How is she as fast as light or faster? Please provide proof.

And if I do?

Have charles cast an illusion and make him believe he accomplished his task.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And if I do?

Then you're wrong.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Squirrel Girl off panel


Wolverine durverine

Originally posted by carver9
Then you're wrong.

I dunno man, I'm just going by comics.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/10/108342/2115559-illy2.jpg

That scan clearly says she was faster than that person travelling at lightspeed....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I dunno man, I'm just going by comics.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/10/108342/2115559-illy2.jpg

That scan clearly says she was faster than that person travelling at lightspeed....

So you think she can get you inside of a portal, teleport you to another dimension, do this all before Superman got to you? Also, consistency. She's not as fast as Supes on a consistent basis.

Originally posted by carver9
So you think she can get you inside of a portal, teleport you to another dimension, do this all before Superman got to you? Also, consistency. She's not as fast as Supes on a consistent basis.

Let's do this step by step

Is she FTL based on that scan?Originally posted by carver9
I'm guessing you're using Mjlonir at its peak speeds when the comic never dictated Mjlonir was moving that fast? How is she as fast as light or faster? Please provide proof.

This was your post. Are you wrong, or am I right?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... how strong are Doom auto shields and please provide scans? Idk how to distinguish auto shields from manual (?) shields but those have stood up to more than enough.

Auto-shields are often assumed to be sometimes skintight, sometimes invisible type of a forcefield.

While the manual ones tend to be depicted as a big bubble.

But it's not a rule, each creative team can see that very differently.

Especially with Doom, whose "standard" gear & "spell-casting book" change a lot, more often that Carver changes senior managers, if you know what I mean.

I think what this thread needs is Carver showing us how dangerous Superman is. How fast is this guy, how strong is he.

Then we can suggest characters to his.....taste.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think what this thread needs is Carver showing us how dangerous Superman is. How fast is this guy, how strong is he.

Then we can suggest characters to his.....taste.

He's stronger and fast enough to beat Pixie. How is she beating him? When she's defeated, how do you live after that? You're trapped in her dimension with things that would kill you since her spells won't be active after her death.

Originally posted by Smurph
Idk how to distinguish auto shields from manual (?) shields but those have stood up to more than enough.

The same way we do GL shields. Show what they've accomplished.

Come back when you actually know what you're arguing.

Originally posted by carver9
The same way we do GL shields. Show what they've accomplished.


So the complete opposite of you Dragon Ball fans.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... how strong are Doom auto shields and please provide scans? Originally posted by ODG
V. FORCE-FIELDS

Doom has some of the strongest force-fields in comics. First off, they're just plain stronger than Invisible Girl's, from Fantastic Four #200:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields01200.jpg

Iron Man's repulsor rays can't even dent them, from Avengers #156:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields02Avengers156.jpg

And even Iron Man's strongest blast just makes him angry, from Iron Man #149:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields03IronMan149.jpg

His force-fields allow him to survive his first physical encounter with the Beyonder's power, which throws him and Galactus back to Battleworld's surface. Doom wakes up first, from Secret Wars #1:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields04SW1.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields05SW1.jpg

Doom manages to survive being thrown from Galactus' Worldship by Galactus personally, from Secret Wars #7:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields06SW7.jpg

Captain Britain sends Doom flying around Limbo and Doom scoffs at it's effect, from Excalibur #37:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields07Excalibur37.jpg

Doom manages to survive an encounter with the Infinity Gauntlet's power, from Infinity Gauntlet #4:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields08IG4.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields09IG5.jpg Doesn't even include the last 14 years of Doom forcefield feats.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Come back when you actually know what you're arguing.

Glad you've conceded.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Auto-shields are often assumed to be sometimes skintight, sometimes invisible type of a forcefield.

While the manual ones tend to be depicted as a big bubble.

But it's not a rule, each creative team can see that very differently.

Especially with Doom, whose "standard" gear & "spell-casting book" change a lot, more often that Carver changes senior managers, if you know what I mean. I agree. Both about the standard forum idea of auto shields, and how that general idea gets complicated with Doom.

But there are his force field feats, which are high end, and then there are his armor durability feats, which are also high end (in part - everybody has low showings, esp somebody with that many showings).

So if "auto shields" are somewhere in between, then I think he's (initially) safe.

If Carv wants to actually debate this we can get into the magic stuff, too.

Originally posted by carver9
Glad you've conceded.

You don't even know who you are arguing against.

Originally posted by Smurph
I agree. Both about the standard forum idea of auto shields, and how that general idea gets complicated with Doom.

But there are his force field feats, which are high end, and then there are his armor durability feats, which are also high end (in part - everybody has low showings, esp somebody with that many showings).

So if "auto shields" are somewhere in between, then I think he's (initially) safe.

If Carv wants to actually debate this we can get into the magic stuff, too.
Thing has consistently broken through his force fields.