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Sorry wrong forum. Can you move this to the movie vs forum?

Originally posted by h1a8
Sorry wrong forum. Can you move this to the movie vs forum?

So your starting a thread that is impossible to answer as nobody knows how nerfed Hela would be on Earth. I'm sure this will turn out well.

Originally posted by h1a8
Sorry wrong forum. Can you move this to the movie vs forum?

No active mods on KMC anymore.

Just make a new one, if you really want to.

Originally posted by tkitna
So your starting a thread that is impossible to answer as nobody knows how nerfed Hela would be on Earth. I'm sure this will turn out well.

We know she was powerful enough to shatter Mjolnir and force both Thor and Loki to flee. Tried to pursue them with *some* degree of success, too.

But that's it.

Originally posted by tkitna
So your starting a thread that is impossible to answer as nobody knows how nerfed Hela would be on Earth. I'm sure this will turn out well.
It's to prevent her from getting stronger as the battle goes on (assuming it goes on long enough)

Well since she has no feats of being able to regenerate limbs and heads then argue accordingly. Would x-24 be able to decapitate her? Or slice off a limb?

Originally posted by h1a8
It's to prevent her from getting stronger as the battle goes on (assuming it goes on long enough)

Well since she has no feats of being able to regenerate limbs and heads then argue accordingly. Would x-24 be able to decapitate her? Or slice off a limb?

She has no feats indicating she cant either so are we to argue accordingly to that too. She didnt appear to be weakened at all in all honesty.

Hela

Strong and fast enough to palm a mjolnir throw. Total range and battlefield control advantage. She just skewers him.

Originally posted by tkitna
She has no feats indicating she cant either so are we to argue accordingly to that too. She didnt appear to be weakened at all in all honesty. Cap has no feats of showing he can use magic on the level of Dr. Strange (or at all). Does that mean he can in a forum?

Special attributes must be proven. Otherwise I can say Thing beats Superman in a fight by banishing him with a spell faster than he can think.

Originally posted by Smurph
Hela

Strong and fast enough to palm a mjolnir throw. Total range and battlefield control advantage. She just skewers him. But skewering him won't do anything. He has healing factor. He was skewered and stabbed many times and still fought through. And his skeleton is adamantium (in many cases it would just strike his bone and not penetrate.

It can completely immobilize him.

Like X-24 did to Logan on that tree trunk.

Originally posted by Smurph
It can completely immobilize him.

Like X-24 did to Logan on that tree trunk.

Fight is on barren Earth.
I made it that way strictly because of that scene

Hela could casually rip X-24 apart. Jackman Logan is closer to Ultimate Marvel Logan than he is Marvel 616.

Hela could also if she wanted, created a blade strapon and sodomize X-24 for eternity and there's nothing he could physically do to stop her.

Originally posted by h1a8
Fight is on barren Earth.
I made it that way strictly because of that scene
and then you included a character whose main power is summoning giant blades

gg

also, not that it has any relevance, but you just made the fight on Earth, not "barren Earth"

lol

Originally posted by Smurph
also, not that it has any relevance, but you just made the fight on Earth, not "barren Earth"

lol This is the wrong forum. I created the real thread in the movie vs forum. It says, "barren Earth".
There are billions of different places on Earth, barren places, places with trees, places with no trees, etc.

Originally posted by Smurph
and then you included a character whose main power is summoning giant blades

gg

In character she's not summoning giant blades, especially on barren Earth with no water.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hela could casually rip X-24 apart. Jackman Logan is closer to Ultimate Marvel Logan than he is Marvel 616.

Hela could also if she wanted, created a blade strapon and sodomize X-24 for eternity and there's nothing he could physically do to stop her.

She's not ripping him apart no more than she's ripped anyone apart.
He can just slice her head clean off. See what I did there?
Assuming one character isn't acting while another is becomes a bias argument.

Characters fight in character, not how each of us choose for them to fight.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is the wrong forum. I created the real thread in the movie vs forum. It says, "barren Earth". nice. What's it like being wrong in two forums at the same time?



Originally posted by h1a8
In character she's not summoning giant blades, especially on barren Earth with no water. Wut

Originally posted by h1a8
Cap has no feats of showing he can use magic on the level of Dr. Strange (or at all). Does that mean he can in a forum?

Special attributes must be proven. Otherwise I can say Thing beats Superman in a fight by banishing him with a spell faster than he can think.

Your being obtuse now. Cap has never shown the ability to use magic so its certain he cant. Hela has shown she has a healing factor. See the difference?

Originally posted by Smurph

Wut

H1 thinks Helas powers are based on water for some unknown reason. Things like this is why its futile to debate with him. He just makes things up on the fly.

Originally posted by tkitna
Your being obtuse now. Cap has never shown the ability to use magic so its certain he cant. Hela has shown she has a healing factor. See the difference?

There is no difference. Showing a healing factor of the stabbing kind doesn't prove one has the healing factor of the decapitation kind.

Also being shown a healing factor on Asgard (where it's stated to draw power from) doesn't prove a healing factor outside of Asgard.

There is no difference.

Originally posted by Smurph
nice. What's it like being wrong in two forums at the same time?



Wut

She summoned large blades for large targets. That's her character.
Even if she went against character and summoned large blades against x-24 then his skeleton would just block it. Smaller blades will work better.

Lastly, she was only shown summoning large blades from the water in Asgard. It is speculative whether she can without that situation.

She was more powerful in Asgard, sure. Very likely that's what allowed her to spam those giant knives.

But I don't recall any connection to water or humidity. That's how Hydroman and Iceman work, not Hela.

Originally posted by h1a8
She summoned large blades for large targets. That's her character.
Even if she went against character and summoned large blades against x-24 then his skeleton would just block it. Smaller blades will work better.

Lastly, she was only shown summoning large blades from the water in Asgard. It is speculative whether she can without that situation.

Wrong again.

She was able to create blades on Earth as well and it's not a "water based" power.

Originally posted by h1a8
There is no difference. Showing a healing factor of the stabbing kind doesn't prove one has the healing factor of the decapitation kind.

Also being shown a healing factor on Asgard (where it's stated to draw power from) doesn't prove a healing factor outside of Asgard.

There is no difference.

Oh so your hung up on this decapitation improbability. I dont think you realize the amount of destruction Hela can rain on X-24. She holds every advantage except for the adamantium. Just watch movies with Wolverine in them and you'll see him get jacked up in all of them. Hela would do worse (except for the silly X3 in which Phoenix half assed her powers against him).

In all honesty she could just hold him down for as long as she wished and he would be powerless to do anything about it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Wrong again.

She was able to create blades on Earth as well and it's not a "water based" power. To prevent yourself from appearing dense, you should read arguments more carefully. Your post has nothing to do with my argument. It's nothing more than a disguise strawman.

Wrong again.

My point countered every one of your points.

Originally posted by tkitna
Oh so your hung up on this decapitation improbability. I dont think you realize the amount of destruction Hela can rain on X-24. She holds every advantage except for the adamantium. Just watch movies with Wolverine in them and you'll see him get jacked up in all of them. Hela would do worse (except for the silly X3 in which Phoenix half assed her powers against him).

In all honesty she could just hold him down for as long as she wished and he would be powerless to do anything about it.
Logan getting hit around while sustaining 0 damage isn't a knock against him.
Hela can definitely knock x24 around. But he would just bounce back good as new.
X-24 is fast and very skilled.
He can evade, block, and counter. I see him as a more formidable opponent than Thor with spear.

Phoenix was disintegrating humans. Do you know how much power that is?

The probability that Hela can obtain a position to hold him down (both arms) is close to 0. That's like trying to hold a vicious dog down(we have the strength to) while it's able to bite a hand clean off.

Wrong again.

Hela's a far superior combatant to X-24, being Asgardian trained and having fought in countless battles over eons. She's also faster as seen in her battle on Asgard.

Originally posted by Robtard
Wrong again.

Hela's a far superior combatant to X-24, being Asgardian trained and having fought in countless battles over eons. She's also faster as seen in her battle on Asgard. We go by what is shown only. I haven't seen anything from her that would make her not get tagged from x-24. She's not faster than x-24.
She's more skilled but not by a lot. X24 hits are more devastating than her hits on him. Especially if he cuts something off.

Um, she was fighting most of the Asgardian army at the same time and only got hit a a few times, she blocked or dodged the majority of the weapons that attached her.

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She's a lot more skilled, far faster and a lot more agile with her combat acrobatics.

You think X-24 is going to land a single hit before she KOs him, skewers him until he can't move, tears him apart or even potentially crushes his skull. Laughable, your arguments are.

Originally posted by h1a8
Logan getting hit around while sustaining 0 damage isn't a knock against him.
Hela can definitely knock x24 around. But he would just bounce back good as new.
X-24 is fast and very skilled.
He can evade, block, and counter. I see him as a more formidable opponent than Thor with spear.

Phoenix was disintegrating humans. Do you know how much power that is?

The probability that Hela can obtain a position to hold him down (both arms) is close to 0. That's like trying to hold a vicious dog down(we have the strength to) while it's able to bite a hand clean off.

Your delusional beyond belief. Logan with zero damage? What movies were you watching? Hes even been ko'd numerous times. He and X-24's healing factor isnt instant like Helas either. Hela is faster, more skilled, and stronger than Thor. We're talking about a character that is vastly superior to the thunder god that has gone toe to toe with the Hulk and you think X-24 has a good shot of beating her. Unbelievable.

Phoenix was in an inner battle with Jean when she squared off with Logan. She wasnt hitting him with everything she had. Logans flesh isnt more durable than a humans and it wasnt even ripped from its skeleton as it should have been. Its a poor example for any argument.

She's stronger than Thor and you dont believe she can restrain a character thats slightly stronger than a human being? Yeah right.

Originally posted by Robtard
Um, she was fighting most of the Asgardian army at the same time and only got hit a a few times, she blocked or dodged the majority of the weapons that attached her.

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She's a lot more skilled, far faster and a lot more agile with her combat acrobatics.

You think X-24 is going to land a single hit before she KOs him, skewers him until he can't move, tears him apart or even potentially crushes his skull. Laughable, your arguments are.

Every single one of those Asgardians are physically superior to X-24 too. X-24's fate would be sealed in seconds just like Hoguns demise. This is spite and needs to stop.

Originally posted by tkitna
Every single one of those Asgardians are physically superior to X-24 too. X-24's fate would be sealed in seconds just like Hoguns demise. This is spite and needs to stop.

They don't have instant healing factors.
She stabs him, he heals. He's not a board now (boards don't hit back). He will be slicing at her, trying to cut off limbs and head.
Stop thinking one way. He's not going to sit there and let her attack only. He's fast and very agile with good reflexes

Any leftover claim that h1 had to being objective and scientific just gave up and died with this thread

Originally posted by Smurph
Any leftover claim that h1 had to being objective and scientific just gave up and died with this thread

Originally posted by h1a8
They don't have instant healing factors.
She stabs him, he heals. He's not a board now (boards don't hit back). He will be slicing at her, trying to cut off limbs and head.
Stop thinking one way. He's not going to sit there and let her attack only. He's fast and very agile with good reflexes

He has no choice to but to take her attacks because he's powerless to do anything about it. 3:04 in this clip. She can do that to him multiple times all day long without him even touching her.


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He cannot win

Originally posted by tkitna
He has no choice to but to take her attacks because he's powerless to do anything about it. 3:04 in this clip. She can do that to him multiple times all day long without him even touching her.


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He cannot win

He has an adamantium skeleton. It won't go through him. Plus he can just block it with his claws (if not evade)

Originally posted by h1a8
He has an adamantium skeleton. It won't go through him. Plus he can just block it with his claws (if not evade)

A human skeleton doesnt cover the entire body. There are plenty of places the skeleton isnt a factor. You act like it covers his entire body like Iron Man or something.

Here's Wolverine and his adamantium skeleton (ko'd mind you). Lot of good that did him.

https://scottmanning.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/WolverineArrows-03.jpg

X-24 can block a few of them but not a barrage of them. Quit being silly.

Its spite. He cant win.

Wow, another example of an adamantium skeleton clad character being impaled, How is that possible?

https://fandomwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/logan-1.jpg

Originally posted by tkitna
Wow, another example of an adamantium skeleton clad character being impaled, How is that possible?

https://fandomwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/logan-1.jpg This is barren Earth. There is nothing to I pale him to. Also he can easily pull himself out of it.
Or just pull it out.

That's if it manages to tag his belly (under the rib cage).

Originally posted by tkitna
A human skeleton doesnt cover the entire body. There are plenty of places the skeleton isnt a factor. You act like it covers his entire body like Iron Man or something.

Here's Wolverine and his adamantium skeleton (ko'd mind you). Lot of good that did him.

https://scottmanning.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/WolverineArrows-03.jpg

X-24 can block a few of them but not a barrage of them. Quit being silly.

Its spite. He cant win.

They start 30ft away. She's going to start of throwing one at a time. She will manage to get 1 or 2 off before he's on her ass. Then she has to use her fighting skills to survive.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is barren Earth. There is nothing to I pale him to. Also he can easily pull himself out of it.
Or just pull it out.

That's if it manages to tag his belly (under the rib cage).

Barren earth is meaningless in this debate as Hela can form objects from the ground. There will be plenty of things to impale him with.



Why would she just throw one at a time? Even if she has to rely on her fighting skills, she would win. She is physically stronger than Thor and faster and a better fighter than X-24. Please try to remember that.

Originally posted by tkitna
Barren earth is meaningless in this debate as Hela can form objects from the ground. There will be plenty of things to impale him with.



Why would she just throw one at a time? Even if she has to rely on her fighting skills, she would win. She is physically stronger than Thor and faster and a better fighter than X-24. Please try to remember that.

1. In character she doesn't form objects from the ground to impale humans. She throws blades at them to impale them.

2. Her generating blades from the water in Asgard doesn't prove he can do the same on barren Earth.

3. She would start throwing one at a time. She could get 1 of 2 off before he's on her.

4. He can one shot her by decapitation or severing a limb. Stabbing her will do nothing. I agree about that.

5. His skeleton can block blades. If one manages to get through his belly then he would either pull it out of it goes straight through.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. In character she doesn't form objects from the ground to impale humans. She throws blades at them to impale them.

2. Her generating blades from the water in Asgard doesn't prove he can do the same on barren Earth.

3. She would start throwing one at a time. She could get 1 of 2 off before he's on her.

4. He can one shot her by decapitation or severing a limb. Stabbing her will do nothing. I agree about that.

5. His skeleton can block blades. If one manages to get through his belly then he would either pull it out of it goes straight through.

1. Its a legit threat. She did so against Surtur.

2. She didnt generate blades from the water. They were generated from the ground. This idea that she needs water to do that is preposterous.

3. Lol. How do you know how many she would throw? Also, you have it backwards. She would advance and be on him and he would get pummeled.

4. Highly unlikely he would be able to do that with her speed, strength, and fighting skills advantage.

5. Just like that huh? No issues at all in your world. He just casually pulls them out like they were nothing. Wow do you reach.

Lets look at this in another way. Do you think X-24 can beat the Hulk?

H1 is trolling and smiling behind his laptop because we are feeding into it. His arguments are ludicrous

Originally posted by tkitna
1. Its a legit threat. She did so against Surtur.

2. She didnt generate blades from the water. They were generated from the ground. This idea that she needs water to do that is preposterous.

3. Lol. How do you know how many she would throw? Also, you have it backwards. She would advance and be on him and he would get pummeled.

4. Highly unlikely he would be able to do that with her speed, strength, and fighting skills advantage.

5. Just like that huh? No issues at all in your world. He just casually pulls them out like they were nothing. Wow do you reach.

1. Surtur was huge and does it fit the situation.
She formed them blades in Agard from the water.

2. She generated giant blades from the water while in Asgard. She generated a blade from the ground in Asgard. But this is irrelevant since she's not going to even attempt this in the fight.

3. Because she did that EVERYTIME she was faced with a humanoid threat.

4. She's not that fast. Thor was able to tag her with a bid ass spear. X24 is significantly faster.

5. He will still fight if one enters his torso. Or it will pass straight through him. But don't forget he can block them as well.


In summary, x-24 best chance is up close where he can try to decapitate her or severe a limb
They start pretty close. So she might get off 2 blades in the beginning (or 1). If she can avoid being severed then she can ko him with a good blow to the head.
Blades will do little as he will block them, they will hit his skeleton, or go through his torso (under the rib).

X-24 can definitely beat a Hulk with no HF. Easy fight.

This fight though can go either way

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Surtur was huge and does it fit the situation.
She formed them blades in Agard from the water.

2. She generated giant blades from the water while in Asgard. She generated a blade from the ground in Asgard. But this is irrelevant since she's not going to even attempt this in the fight.

3. Because she did that EVERYTIME she was faced with a humanoid threat.

4. She's not that fast. Thor was able to tag her with a bid ass spear. X24 is significantly faster.

5. He will still fight if one enters his torso. Or it will pass straight through him. But don't forget he can block them as well.


In summary, x-24 best chance is up close where he can try to decapitate her or severe a limb
They start pretty close. So she might get off 2 blades in the beginning (or 1). If she can avoid being severed then she can ko him with a good blow to the head.
Blades will do little as he will block them, they will hit his skeleton, or go through his torso (under the rib).

X-24 can definitely beat a Hulk with no HF. Easy fight.

This fight though can go either way

The blades and objects she created were made from the ground not the water. How hard is that for you to grasp? The objects were not made from water. They were created from the ground that she raised that just happened to be under water because of chance of where they were at.

Stop with this water bit. You look dumber everytime you bring it up.

Lol. She's much faster than X-24. She also threw multiple swords at one time against the Valkyries so why would she not do so again if one or two were not getting the job done. Hela isnt as dumb as you. She would do what it took to win the fight.

But Hulk has a healing factor and Helas seems even better than his. Answer the question without including variables.

This fight can only go one way and thats with X-24 getting pummeled.

Originally posted by h1a8

In summary, x-24 best chance is up close where he can try to decapitate her or severe a limb
They start pretty close. So she might get off 2 blades in the beginning (or 1). If she can avoid being severed then she can ko him with a good blow to the head.
Blades will do little as he will block them, they will hit his skeleton, or go through his torso (under the rib).
Originally posted by h1a8

Please refrain from fantasy strategies.

Originally posted by tkitna
The blades and objects she created were made from the ground not the water. How hard is that for you to grasp? The objects were not made from water. They were created from the ground that she raised that just happened to be under water because of chance of where they were at.

Stop with this water bit. You look dumber everytime you bring it up.

Lol. She's much faster than X-24. She also threw multiple swords at one time against the Valkyries so why would she not do so again if one or two were not getting the job done. Hela isnt as dumb as you. She would do what it took to win the fight.

But Hulk has a healing factor and Helas seems even better than his. Answer the question without including variables.

This fight can only go one way and thats with X-24 getting pummeled.
Blade from the ground?
Did you read the part about why I said that argument was irrelevant? Why argue when the argument doesn't count anyway? You are wasting time.

The fight with the Valkyries wasnt onscreen. Also she could have been at a different level when she fought them. Plus there were MANY OF THEM. Let's go by all her fights against individuals in the actual movie to determine how she fights. She will most likely throw a blade at a time (definitely in the beginning) at x24 just like she did every single opponent she fought (including Thor). X24 will block the first two and start attacking.

Plenty of beings blocked those blades. They were not moving that fast (slower than arrows). Her movements wasnt that fast either. X24 has a chance. He just needs to try to decap her (like he did another in the movie) or slice a limb off.

Originally posted by h1a8
Blade from the ground?
Did you read the part about why I said that argument was irrelevant? Why argue when the argument doesn't count anyway? You are wasting time.

It is relevant because its an actual choice she can make.



You truly dont watch the movies do you?

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Many or few, she was shown to be capable of doing so and its an option. Yeah, she mostly throws one or a couple at a time at opponents that she knows arent real threats to her. If she feels X-24 is a threat (he's not) she would up the ante some.



Slower than arrows? Lol. Prove it.

She took out an entire Asgardian army (each one more enhanced than X-24) with very few strokes being landed against her. Easily mind you. An army that X-24 has no chance in hell of beating.

You need to take the blinders off and reevaluate the scope of Helas superiority here. Your looking even more foolish than usual.

Originally posted by tkitna
It is relevant because its an actual choice she can make.



You truly dont watch the movies do you?

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Many or few, she was shown to be capable of doing so and its an option. Yeah, she mostly throws one or a couple at a time at opponents that she knows arent real threats to her. If she feels X-24 is a threat (he's not) she would up the ante some.



Slower than arrows? Lol. Prove it.

She took out an entire Asgardian army (each one more enhanced than X-24) with very few strokes being landed against her. Easily mind you. An army that X-24 has no chance in hell of beating.

You need to take the blinders off and reevaluate the scope of Helas superiority here. Your looking even more foolish than usual.

She won't make that choice though. That's not how she fights.
And how will a blade from the ground even tag x24?
Hes moving.

That was a memory. Like I said, look how she fought the Asgardian army. That's the level she is on. We can't go back thousands of years and claim she is on that same level. And she wouldn't even throw more than a blade at a time at x24. Like you said, he's not a threat.

I go by visual speed. She throws her blades at slower than arrow speeds. Many were blocking them (even Thor).

X24 only chance is to go for decapitation or severe a limb. He has a chance. She will underestimate him.

You have to understand the difference between an Asgardian and normal earth bound characters I guess before you can truly understand.

Take Loki for an example. He beat the piss out of Captain America and he's a nobody to Hela. Captain America mind you who's feats crap on Logans. Another example would be Sif when she appeared on earth in Agents Of Shield. Start watching at 5:40. She kicked a freaking camper around and she's a bottom feeder Asgardian.

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Regardless of what you believe, the physical superiority and speed of Hela compared to X-24 is astronomical.

You are a true Olympian at cerebral acrobatics H1. Absolutely mind boggling

Originally posted by tkitna
You have to understand the difference between an Asgardian and normal earth bound characters I guess before you can truly understand.

Take Loki for an example. He beat the piss out of Captain America and he's a nobody to Hela. Captain America mind you who's feats crap on Logans. Another example would be Sif when she appeared on earth in Agents Of Shield. Start watching at 5:40. She kicked a freaking camper around and she's a bottom feeder Asgardian.

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Regardless of what you believe, the physical superiority and speed of Hela compared to X-24 is astronomical.

You sound like a person who doesn't read comics.
Logan has literally beat the Hulk before. Hulk is like trillions of times stronger.

You make no sense.
X24 has a plot device (claws that can cut through nearly anything) with a HF and unbreakable skeleton.

Originally posted by h1a8
You sound like a person who doesn't read comics.
Logan has literally beat the Hulk before. Hulk is like trillions of times stronger.

You make no sense.
X24 has a plot device (claws that can cut through nearly anything) with a HF and unbreakable skeleton.

So now your changing goal posts again. You know this was a thread based on the movies that you put in the wrong place.

Regardless of that, the comic version would be even worse. She's a Hell Lord for cripes sake. Do you even have an inkling of a clue what she has done in the comics? When you have an ounce of knowledge about her, get back to me.

Originally posted by tkitna
So now your changing goal posts again. You know this was a thread based on the movies that you put in the wrong place.

Regardless of that, the comic version would be even worse. She's a Hell Lord for cripes sake. Do you even have an inkling of a clue what she has done in the comics? When you have an ounce of knowledge about her, get back to me.

But...there is no water in barren hell for Manga Hela to beat video game X-24 because bobble head Hulk is like a gazillion times stronger.

Originally posted by tkitna
So now your changing goal posts again. You know this was a thread based on the movies that you put in the wrong place.

Regardless of that, the comic version would be even worse. She's a Hell Lord for cripes sake. Do you even have an inkling of a clue what she has done in the comics? When you have an ounce of knowledge about her, get back to me. I just proved that your logic is flawed. Being many times stronger than someone in fiction doesn't mean automatic win. If you have claws that bypass durability, unbreakable skeleton, great HF, and good skill then you can one shot a lot of beings that are vastly stronger.

That was a stupid argument.

Hela can just tear X-24 apart, if she gets tired of slapping him around, as nothing in the films suggest Logan's skeleton is linked together. He's closer to his Ultimate Marvel version and the Hulk casually tore that Logan into two pieces.

Or just crush his skull via her crushing feats.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hela can just tear X-24 apart, if she gets tired of slapping him around, as nothing in the films suggest Logan's skeleton is linked together. He's closer to his Ultimate Marvel version and the Hulk casually tore that Logan into two pieces.

Or just crush his skull via her crushing feats.

That's not how she fights. Even if she did fought that way then your argument is stilled flawed. You are commiting the "Boards don't hit back" fallacy.

X24 isn't going to let her do those things. He would be swiping at her. He can cut her hand off if she's not careful (you think he's just going to let her grab him without incident lmao)

You are arguing with a bias viewpoint. One character stands there while the other character does what they want. You have to be more objective here.
I know that Hela can win. But x24 has one shot chances. He's the underdog but he can possibly win due to her underestimating him.

Lastly adamantium is superior to Mjolnir anyway from feats.

Originally posted by h1a8
I just proved that your logic is flawed. Being many times stronger than someone in fiction doesn't mean automatic win. If you have claws that bypass durability, unbreakable skeleton, great HF, and good skill then you can one shot a lot of beings that are vastly stronger.

That was a stupid argument.

The only thing you have proven so far is that your an idiot. Movie Logan has zero feats of him beating a character leagues above him in physical superiority such as Hela. The logan were talking about gets ko'd by bullets and the likes of Sabertooth.

As usual, you have once again lost another debate. Its time for you to take the dunce cap and go sit in the corner.

Everyone trying to debate with h1a8 using logic and reason:

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Originally posted by tkitna
The only thing you have proven so far is that your an idiot. Movie Logan has zero feats of him beating a character leagues above him in physical superiority such as Hela. The logan were talking about gets ko'd by bullets and the likes of Sabertooth.

As usual, you have once again lost another debate. Its time for you to take the dunce cap and go sit in the corner. Why do you need feats of beating beings far above in strength?

His claws can one shot much stronger opponents.
That's a fact.

All he need is the opportunity to apply the claws.
The only way he loses to a stronger is if the stronger can somehow put him down before being gravely sliced.

Stop being stupid.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why do you need feats of beating beings far above in strength?

Because you brought it up. Insanity I tell you.



Proof or shut up. Where in any movie that he has been in has he downed a character on Thors, Helas, or Hulks level?

This person dissagress with H1, this person thinks Hela would win the lion's share of the matches and that's a match win for Hela:

Originally posted by h1a8
He can is different than he will.
X24 can be her due to her underestimating him. If she knows everything about him then it's spite. But I think Hela is skill enough to prevent losing her head or limb most of the time.
X24 beats her like 3-4/10

Originally posted by tkitna
Because you brought it up. Insanity I tell you.



Proof or shut up. Where in any movie that he has been in has he downed a character on Thors, Helas, or Hulks level?

That's not how proving a character win works.
There are many ways to prove that a character can win against a stronger character without them actually beating a stronger character in the movie or show.

For example, Logan can stab or slice Juggs in the neck and kill him. He doesn't have to have shown that specifically to Juggs. He's done that countess times to others.

Yeah but juggs has armor and a force field so it kind of won't work on him because it doesn't in the comics. You know by the many times that wolverine has slashed Juggernaut and done nothing.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's not how proving a character win works.
There are many ways to prove that a character can win against a stronger character without them actually beating a stronger character in the movie or show.

By assumptions and making things up right? We're all to familiar with you doing that.



Proof that he can stab and kill a character on Juggernaut, Thor, Hulk, or Helas level.

Originally posted by tkitna
By assumptions and making things up right? We're all to familiar with you doing that.



Proof that he can stab and kill a character on Juggernaut, Thor, Hulk, or Helas level. If you can prove that a weaker character can win by another means (not being stronger) then that character can beat a stronger. Only idiots argue "character A is much stronger and therefore character A wins."


They have no stab resistance feats, especially from a metal that can slice 6in wall of steel like it was a sheet of paper.
Hell, IM was going to stab Thanos with a titanium alloy.

Originally posted by h1a8

They have no stab resistance feats, especially from a metal that can slice 6in wall of steel like it was a sheet of paper.
Hell, IM was going to stab Thanos with a titanium alloy.

Thors been stabbed quite a few times and its never put him down. Helas been stabbed and it did nothing. Do you see where your argument fails now?

X-24 or Logan cannot put down one of those characters.

Originally posted by tkitna
Thors been stabbed quite a few times and its never put him down. Helas been stabbed and it did nothing. Do you see where your argument fails now?

X-24 or Logan cannot put down one of those characters.

So you admit to beings able to be stabbed and cut.
Logan just has to apply it in a vulnerable area (hence my initial argument).
Neck, slice arm off, etc.

Originally posted by h1a8
So you admit to beings able to be stabbed and cut.



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Originally posted by ShadowFyre
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Its comical isnt it. Like arguing with a 3 year old.

He really hammered you with that one Tkitna😆😆

I admit to beings able to be punched in the face so ****ing hard they land in a different state.