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Which explosion is taking this? Superman energy was drained to near depletion after his attack while Hulk retained his power. Is Supermans full energy explosion more powerful than Hulks?

https://ibb.co/X5YTSFH

Vs

https://postimg.cc/xJtxXmkV

Based off fts, destructive power, Hulk attack is FAR more powerful. What ya think, ABHI.

Gas station > Solar flare

Superman leaped across the 6th dimension at zero power, destroying a mighty sixth dimensional planet in the process, Hulk needs a wishing well to even come close.

Originally posted by carver9
Which explosion is taking this? Superman energy was drained to near depletion after his attack while Hulk retained his power. Is Supermans full energy explosion more powerful than Hulks?

https://ibb.co/X5YTSFH

Vs

https://postimg.cc/xJtxXmkV

Was the super flare from current Superman, or New 52, who would be half powered before Superman merged whole, which itself was before current power up?

If you're arguing New 52 flare up and trying to apply it to Superman now, you fail just like in bed.

Look at the scan and answer the question, please.

Originally posted by carver9
Look at the scan and answer the question, please.

Can't actually answer the question? Given all the energy around I can't tell.

Also, I would say the intent you have itself is dishonest, unless we just consider it ignorant.

Go by the fts these showings have.

Originally posted by carver9
Go by the fts these showings have.

You're just proving my pont.

Originally posted by carver9
Which explosion is taking this? Superman energy was drained to near depletion after his attack while Hulk retained his power. Is Supermans full energy explosion more powerful than Hulks?

https://ibb.co/X5YTSFH

Vs

https://postimg.cc/xJtxXmkV
Solar flare is basically every cell in Superman's body erupting in a miniature supernova.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PTDrbpjIPCI/VRzM9T81UmI/AAAAAAAAv1I/DaTna4aMm60/s1600/solar%2Bflare.jpg

Not just a nuke kid.

lol, carter.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Solar flare is basically every cell in Superman's body erupting in a miniature supernova.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PTDrbpjIPCI/VRzM9T81UmI/AAAAAAAAv1I/DaTna4aMm60/s1600/solar%2Bflare.jpg

Not just a nuke kid.

And it does absolutely nothing. Name the fts. Not accepting statements from you. Aren't you the guy who doesn't accept Hulk 100k exploding suns. Show me fts.

Originally posted by carver9
And it does absolutely nothing. Name the fts. Not accepting statements from you. Aren't you the guy who doesn't accept Hulk 100k exploding suns. Show me fts.

I don't see Hulk melting cities in the scan you provided, despite that's the output comparison. Irony told you to pick up the soap.

Lol... I don't see Superman melting cities either 🤣🤣

It only expands a quarter of a mile...

https://ibb.co/whDVgTn

He's done it in schools, heck, he couldn't even destroy the bottom half of the JLA tower with it...

https://ibb.co/mvygmNx
https://ibb.co/kKF0V1n
https://ibb.co/SBCryQv

A junk yard robot walked up to him and absorbed his solar flare whereas Tony with Celestial tech ta boot did absolutely nothing to Hulk power while absorbing it...

https://ibb.co/QHdS9gH
https://ibb.co/GMKVwGG

Show me those fts and cities, please.

Here he does it again in a mountain and only destroys the top of it.

https://ibb.co/zXhX6Sw
https://ibb.co/pyHQPQs

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... I don't see Superman melting cities either 🤣🤣

Which...is the reason for Delta bringing out the point about Hulk isn't melting cities

Your reply is like

You say:"My car is better than his, because that guy's car doesn't even have tires"
Another guy asks:" But your car doesn't have tires either?How can it better better than his, since both of them don't have tires?"
Then you reply with:"I don't see that guy's car have tires"

Hulk explosion destroyed an entire Celestial hand, melted it. Show me those fts and stay on topic.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... I don't see Superman melting cities either 🤣🤣

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This is all I need to do to own you. Quote this part. This proves how utterly oblivious and terrible your reading comprehension is to get this response.

So no fts? All you had to say.

Originally posted by carver9
So no fts? All you had to say.

This is literally as bad as someone smugly arguing 2+2=77 and thinks he won.

Lol... you have nothing, Delta. Absolutely nothing. Don't know why you're still messaging in this thread when you can't even provide anything. I've said what I said. A Superman depleting his cells for day by exerting all of his power<<<<<<<a Hulk doing a far more powerful attack while still retaining his power.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... you have nothing, Delta. Absolutely nothing. Don't know why you're still messaging in this thread when you can't even provide anything. I've said what I said. A Superman depleting his cells for day by exerting all of his power<<<<<<<a Hulk doing a far more powerful attack while still retaining his power.

OK, if you think you're this above me, prove it. My BZ challenge. Do you actually have a pair or are you running away yet again?

Originally posted by carver9
And it does absolutely nothing. Name the fts. Not accepting statements from you. Aren't you the guy who doesn't accept Hulk 100k exploding suns. Show me fts.
Because Superman does it on a concentrated level, he's not out to destroy the world lol.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Superman does it on a concentrated level, he's not out to destroy the world lol.

He had no control of the attack. The JLA had to help him control that power AFTER wrecking the bottom section of the JLA tower (lmmfao). A backyard robot walked through the attack and absorbed it. What do you have, ABHI? Besides excuses

Originally posted by Delta1938
OK, if you think you're this above me, prove it. My BZ challenge. Do you actually have a pair or are you running away yet again?

Well, carver9? See? I even used your actual username.

Originally posted by carver9
He had no control of the attack. The JLA had to help him control that power AFTER wrecking the bottom section of the JLA tower (lmmfao). A backyard robot walked through the attack and absorbed it. What do you have, ABHI? Besides excuses
Of course he did have control over it. Supernovas even miniature would destroy the world lol.

He admitted he didn't have control over it and the earth and everything less than a mile was ok. You're a troll, ABHI...

https://ibb.co/5vt2vX0
https://ibb.co/CKTwQCG
https://ibb.co/KmdWBpZ

And again, w backyard built robot absorbed his flare, with ease.

And to add a little more icing to the cake, here he is asking the JLA to help him control this power....

https://ibb.co/BBg3Kmb

Originally posted by carver9
He admitted he didn't have control over it and the earth and everything less than a mile was ok. You're a troll, ABHI...

https://ibb.co/5vt2vX0
https://ibb.co/CKTwQCG
https://ibb.co/KmdWBpZ

And again, w backyard built robot absorbed his flare, with ease.
He says he had trouble controlling it. It also overpowered Ulysses who was about to destroy Earth itself. Originally posted by carver9
And to add a little more icing to the cake, here he is asking the JLA to help him control this power....

https://ibb.co/BBg3Kmb
Having trouble controlling his power doesn't mean he had no control at all.

Your reading comprehension is as atrocious as ever.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He says he had trouble controlling it. It also overpowered Ulysses who was about to destroy Earth itself.
Having trouble controlling his power doesn't mean he had no control at all.

Your reading comprehension is as atrocious as ever.

He literally say "I couldn't control it".

Ulysses destroyed the earth? Scan please and if not, anything outside of this is hyperbole. Even if he was, that doesn't mean an attack that can't even cover a mile is planetary.

Glad we came to the conclusion that a fraction of Hulks power is>>>>>>>Superman releasing his full power.

Derrick, your argument coupled with the very scans you showed for Hulk shows how stupid you are. Whether you actually believe what you're arguing, or you're just a dishonest hypocrite who thinks he can fool anybody, you're very, very dumb.

You're focusing so much on the relative lack of collateral damage from the super flare while ignoring the complete lack of collateral damage(going by your scans) for Hulk.

It's quite an easy explanation. The solar flare is immensely powerful in the range it actually discharges, but that discharge itself is fairly small in range.

Otherwise if you're going to argue this lack of collateral damage, you concede that Hulk didn't lift the weight of a star, as that spear he struggled with barely displaced the ground when it should have destroyed Earth if it was star weight.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Derrick, your argument coupled with the very scans you showed for Hulk shows how stupid you are. Whether you actually believe what you're arguing, or you're just a dishonest hypocrite who thinks he can fool anybody, you're very, very dumb.

You're focusing so much on the relative lack of collateral damage from the super flare while ignoring the complete lack of collateral damage(going by your scans) for Hulk.

It's quite an easy explanation. The solar flare is immensely powerful in the range it actually discharges, but that discharge itself is fairly small in range.

Otherwise if you're going to argue this lack of collateral damage, you concede that Hulk didn't lift the weight of a star, as that spear he struggled with barely displaced the ground when it should have destroyed Earth if it was star weight. Double standards at it's finest, ol' Carv. 😆😆😆

Lol, delta is arguing with abhi. I made this thread because abhi used collateral damage against Hulk, so why not ask him for the same thing he keeps mentioning as a crutch in hulks showing? Thanks Delta...

Originally posted by abhilegend
The **** are you talking about? The force of 3000 nukes is just the same, it doesn't magically became more potent after immortal hulk. It's like you didn't even read the run. Here, Hulk literally explodes with excess power and it only destroyed a town.

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Immortal-Hulk/Issue-35?id=173446
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Immortal-Hulk/Issue-36?id=174493

You've got reading comprehension of a toddler. Exotic energy doesn't mean you can say whatever you want, idiot.

Now abhi, post those collateral damage fts for Superman. Thanks!!! Delta, mind your business and let me and abhi handle this. Lawless, keep being a cheerleader. Looks good on you.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol, delta is arguing with abhi. I made this thread because abhi used collateral damage against Hulk, so why not ask him for the same thing he keeps mentioning as a crutch in hulks showing? Thanks Delta...



Now abhi, post those collateral damage fts for Superman. Thanks!!! Delta, mind your business and let me and abhi handle this. Lawless, keep being a cheerleader. Looks good on you. Derrick go hug your Hulk.

I do want to point out that if Hulk is leaking gamma radiation or shooting gamma at Superman, he's essentially sundipping him. He'd be in for the beating of his life.

Originally posted by Juntai
I do want to point out that if Hulk is leaking gamma radiation or shooting gamma at Superman, he's essentially sundipping him. He'd be in for the beating of his life.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol, delta is arguing with abhi. I made this thread because abhi used collateral damage against Hulk, so why not ask him for the same thing he keeps mentioning as a crutch in hulks showing? Thanks Delta...



Now abhi, post those collateral damage fts for Superman. Thanks!!! Delta, mind your business and let me and abhi handle this. Lawless, keep being a cheerleader. Looks good on you.

I Note you merely address your interpretation of things without actually acknowledging my points. Furthermore, you only respond to me when you THINK you have an argument against me, otherwise you avoid me out of fear. Like not replying to my actual argument.

As for your response to Juntai, gamma radiation is part of what the Sun emits.....

Reed can't even comprehend the kind of magic/science that's in Hulk but you expect Superman to absorb the unique energy that's within Hulk. You super fans get smarter every single day. Him attempting to absorb Hulk gamma that is connected to the One Below All would probably kill him.

Now HULK could absorb Superman, and easily.

Originally posted by carver9
Reed can't even comprehend the kind of magic/science that's in Hulk but you expect Superman to absorb the unique energy that's within Hulk. You super fans get smarter every single day. Him attempting to absorb Hulk gamma that is connected to the One Below All would probably kill him.

Now HULK could absorb Superman, and easily.

Thanks for proving me right. No wonder you continue to run away from Superman vs Wonder Woman.

Originally posted by carver9
He literally say "I couldn't control it".

Ulysses destroyed the earth? Scan please and if not, anything outside of this is hyperbole. Even if he was, that doesn't mean an attack that can't even cover a mile is planetary.

Glad we came to the conclusion that a fraction of Hulks power is>>>>>>>Superman releasing his full power. He flat out said he couldn't control it and they are still arguing with you?? No wonder I stay away from this place. Same old same old.

Originally posted by JBL
He flat out said he couldn't control it and they are still arguing with you?? No wonder I stay away from this place. Same old same old.

I think you stay away from it because if you stick to your lies about having a son and the account you're on was made for him, who was under the minimum age to register here according to your lies, you can get banned for violating those rules.

You also are not allowed to have multiple accounts, and the account you made from when you forgot your password is still active, and that account wasn't banned......

I'll just tell Pr you threatened to steal his pot of gold.

Originally posted by JBL
He flat out said he couldn't control it and they are still arguing with you?? No wonder I stay away from this place. Same old same old.

Yep, most Superman fans are trolling these days. Juntai is one of the few with credibility that I would try to have a serious debate with but he even have an excuse for everything involving Supes. It's a lose/lose situation.

Originally posted by carver9
Yep, most Superman fans are trolling these days. Juntai is one of the few with credibility that I would try to have a serious debate with but he even have an excuse for everything involving Supes. It's a lose/lose situation.

You're the one who seems to think magick poisons Kryptonians like Kryptonite. If that were the case, there are multiple examples similar to your argument about gamma would kill him except they did nothing of the sort. In at least one instance he was actually amped.

Hulks energy has been captured, absorbed or drained etc in whole or part by too many machines/tech/characters over the years for anyone to believe something different would happen if Superman absorbed some of it being used against him.

Supes has absorbed and powered himself with a vast array of energies from magic, cosmic, antimatter, anti sun, even red sun which is supposed to block his abilities, etc.

Gamma is a solar radiation at the core of suns, they may have some unexplainable phenomenon that Hulk has done with gamma energy on rare occasion which they tried to explain away in that series, but those are neither here on there.

Originally posted by carver9
He literally say "I couldn't control it".

Ulysses destroyed the earth? Scan please and if not, anything outside of this is hyperbole. Even if he was, that doesn't mean an attack that can't even cover a mile is planetary.

Glad we came to the conclusion that a fraction of Hulks power is>>>>>>>Superman releasing his full power.


Have you even read the story? I guess not.

Supernovas>whatever puny ass shit Banner can do.

Originally posted by Juntai
Hulks energy has been captured, absorbed or drained etc in whole or part by too many machines/tech/characters over the years for anyone to believe something different would happen if Superman absorbed some of it being used against him.

Supes has absorbed and powered himself with a vast array of energies from magic, cosmic, antimatter, anti sun, even red sun which is supposed to block his abilities, etc.

Gamma is a solar radiation at the core of suns, they may have some unexplainable phenomenon that Hulk has done with gamma energy on rare occasion which they tried to explain away in that series, but those are neither here on there.

You should probably read immortal hulk and then revisit this conversation. Hulk absorbs Hulk, and easily

Originally posted by abhilegend


Have you even read the story? I guess not.

Supernovas>whatever puny ass shit Banner can do.

Supernovas would annihilate earth, Superman release of energy can't even destroy a bunker. Keep clinging to that statement. Lol... partial of Hulks energy>>>>>>>>>>>Superman solar flare.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk absorbs Hulk, and easily this is the most carver thing i've ever seen carver post. never change.

Lol... Hulk absorbs SUPERMAN easily.

What feat makes you believe that?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... Hulk absorbs SUPERMAN easily. Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy, dream on.

Originally posted by carver9
You should probably read immortal hulk and then revisit this conversation. Hulk absorbs Hulk, and easily

As pointed out, typical carter fail.

Originally posted by carver9
Supernovas would annihilate earth, Superman release of energy can't even destroy a bunker. Keep clinging to that statement. Lol... partial of Hulks energy>>>>>>>>>>>Superman solar flare.

That same discharge from Hulk failed to have city melting effects despite it being said to be that level. Why are you only arguing lack of collateral damage for Superman?

Let's revisit this.

Originally posted by carver9
Reed can't even comprehend the kind of magic/science that's in Hulk but you expect Superman to absorb the unique energy that's within Hulk. You super fans get smarter every single day. Him attempting to absorb Hulk gamma that is connected to the One Below All would probably kill him.

Now HULK could absorb Superman, and easily.

https://tinyurl.com/3f7hd2d8

https://tinyurl.com/3uaj3tyb

Superman absorbs dimensions ripped out of a 5D being and it doesn't kill him. Gamma is weak sauce by comparison.

Originally posted by carver9
Supernovas would annihilate earth, Superman release of energy can't even destroy a bunker. Keep clinging to that statement. Lol... partial of Hulks energy>>>>>>>>>>>Superman solar flare.
That's why it was a controlled blast. Even Jon has power of a supernova in each cell. It has been fairly documented lol

Carver and flip-flopping about collateral damage: name a more iconic duo.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Carver and flip-flopping about collateral damage: name a more iconic duo.

I have one, but the joke might get me banned.

Speaking of bans, can someone get one for stupidity? Oh I'm not talking about Derrick at alllll.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's why it was a controlled blast. Even Jon has power of a supernova in each cell. It has been fairly documented lol

Superman ADMITTED he couldn't control it. Stop trolling. It's irritating.

Originally posted by Juntai
What feat makes you believe that?

Because he can.

Also, why you're at it, show me Superman absorbing someone's, a physical being, power. I'll be waiting

Originally posted by carver9
Also, why you're at it, show me Superman absorbing someone's, a physical being, power. I'll be waiting

From Philo's respect thread


Originally posted by abhilegend
Anyway, how about tanking and absorbing a hypernova?

Superman defeats Mageddon, the primordial annihilator via absorbing its anti-sun core which negates his own energy and is complely fine while overcoming its telepathy.

http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/16083892_jla041a.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/16083893_jla041b.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/16083894_jla041c.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/16083895_jla041d.jpg

Just how powerful was Mageddon? It was powerful enough to force the angels of Pax-Dei to create a new universe because it was going to destroy this universe.

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16083962_JLA_41_pg01.jpg

The whole of humanity gets the powers of superman.

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16083978_JLA_41_pg27.jpg

Mageddon was killing thousands of these supermen with each blast and would've killed whole of humanity in minutes according to batman.

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16084040_JLA_41_pg31.jpg


Here is one more thing about this feat. Oracle notes that the Mageddon anti sun was going hypernova.

https://s6.postimg.cc/ci297awz5/image.jpg

A hypernova only occurs in the stars at least 30 times more mass than Earth's sun and this anti sun must have been even more huge so to destroy half the galaxy.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-a-hypernova-explosion

And here the anti sun goes off as Orion says the detonation has been done. Superman actually tanks it and absorbs all the energy.

http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/16083894_jla041c.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/16083895_jla041d.jpg

That's enough real star for you?

Guess you misunderstood my question. Please read it again

Originally posted by carver9
show me Superman absorbing someone's, a physical being, power.
So, it looks like you're asking to show you Superman absorbing someone/physical being's powers.

I fail to see why the two instances don't fit?

It's not what I asked for, also, Superman never used absorption in combat. Also, he doesn't have enough showings to even represent this as a valid showing for him. One off. Second, Hulk absorbs the F out of him and resists any absorption attempt (lmmfao) made by Superman.

Tony in Celestial tech recently tried to absorb Hulk and Hulk was getting more powerful.

Originally posted by carver9
It's not what I asked for, also, Superman never used absorption in combat. Also, he doesn't have enough showings to even represent this as a valid showing for him. One off. Second, Hulk absorbs the F out of him and resists any absorption attempt (lmmfao) made by Superman.

Tony in Celestial tech recently tried to absorb Hulk and Hulk was getting more powerful. I'm not saying he drains Hulk or anything, but that any gamma energy used against could indeed be absorbed. And yes, we have seen Superman absorb energy used against him, out of combat, in combat, shielding others by doing it, etc.
But gamma being a high frequency solar energy, its not even something he would have to think about, even though he's also actively able to pick and choose.
Not much different than when Apollo attacked him and accidentally amped him.

Originally posted by carver9
It's not what I asked for, also, Superman never used absorption in combat. Also, he doesn't have enough showings to even represent this as a valid showing for him. One off. Second, Hulk absorbs the F out of him and resists any absorption attempt (lmmfao) made by Superman.

Tony in Celestial tech recently tried to absorb Hulk and Hulk was getting more powerful.

LMAO you're lying about what you were proved wrong about.

Superman drains the energy directly out of another being:
https://imgur.com/gallery/jm6o33s

The god Apollo while fighting Supes accidentally amps Superman with his magical/godly based solar powers:
https://imgur.com/gallery/CAK6rje

Amped from Starmans cosmic energy explosion to where a footstep would crack the planet in half:
https://imgur.com/gallery/Kh3iYwI

Absorb Umbrax's The Ultraviolet Galaxy's energy to protect others:
https://imgur.com/gallery/rB4eFpG


Like what are we looking for here?
Theres a ton of these and they're easy to find.
I mean there's even a few examples of him absorbing someones magic and then casting spells. lol.

Why doesn't Superman absorb energy when he's hit by blasts? It makes sense if he takes in sunlight since that's what his body does, but he doesn't do this against energy based attacks often.

Originally posted by Test123
Why doesn't Superman absorb energy when he's hit by blasts? It makes sense if he takes in sunlight since that's what his body does, but he doesn't do this against energy based attacks often. Story supersedes everything is why.
Writers don't really care about feats in general.

Originally posted by Test123
Why doesn't Superman absorb energy when he's hit by blasts? It makes sense if he takes in sunlight since that's what his body does, but he doesn't do this against energy based attacks often.

He(and other Kryptonians) have on occasion depending on the source.

Originally posted by carver9
It's not what I asked for, also, Superman never used absorption in combat. Also, he doesn't have enough showings to even represent this as a valid showing for him. One off. Second, Hulk absorbs the F out of him and resists any absorption attempt (lmmfao) made by Superman.

Tony in Celestial tech recently tried to absorb Hulk and Hulk was getting more powerful.
Then what you're asking?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Then what you're asking?

Nothing, he's moving the goal post while ignoring the example you posted with Rampage was exactly what he said Superman has never done, absorbing in combat. Unless he doesn't count it as a fight because Rampage grabbed him from behind. Which would be moving the goal post.

He's also tried to move the goalpost from when I said Hulk using any gamma attack would just amp Superman to somehow making it Superman trying to drain gamma from Hulk, which isn't what the conversation ever was.

Superman actually drained a Hulk clone of her gamma radiation when he fought Rampage.

Turned out it was solar energy, my mistake.


I mean she was clearly Hulk, just assumed it was gamma radiation.

Gamma is a solar radiation.
Supes can absorb it and even shoot gamma if he chooses.

Originally posted by Test123
Why doesn't Superman absorb energy when he's hit by blasts? It makes sense if he takes in sunlight since that's what his body does, but he doesn't do this against energy based attacks often.

Revisiting this, I mentioned it has happened, depends on the energy. It happened twice with the Cosmic Rod(from Starman, but used by Star Spangled Kid).

https://tinyurl.com/2ypprtem

And again to Supergirl and Power Girl.

https://tinyurl.com/38ypm87m

I guess carter will dismiss them because they're "not fights."

Had been taking blasts from Evil Star(more of the fight happened before this) and it made him stronger.

https://tinyurl.com/msmztsmf

Originally posted by Juntai
He's also tried to move the goalpost from when I said Hulk using any gamma attack would just amp Superman to somehow making it Superman trying to drain gamma from Hulk, which isn't what the conversation ever was.

Yep, this his norm.

Originally posted by Juntai
I'm not saying he drains Hulk or anything, but that any gamma energy used against could indeed be absorbed. And yes, we have seen Superman absorb energy used against him, out of combat, in combat, shielding others by doing it, etc.
But gamma being a high frequency solar energy, its not even something he would have to think about, even though he's also actively able to pick and choose.
Not much different than when Apollo attacked him and accidentally amped him.

This is becoming irritating. Superman isn't absorbing this...

Originally posted by carver9
True, only different is, Hulk is the key to this power, and Gamma isn't the gamma we know of in the real world. So you all using the sun and our earth's gamma as an indication of comic book gamma is just, how can I say this nicely, dumb...

Hulks UNIQUE gamma energy (said by Reed)

https://ibb.co/BCw6yrN

Hulk energy and the energy from the Green door is EXOTIC energy. Energy that Reed can't even comprehend...

https://ibb.co/XL06qXk

Hulk/Banner gamma energy is where the true power lies. Ya know, this mystical gamma energy...

https://ibb.co/tZGxFpg

Gamma is a little of both, magic AND science...

https://ibb.co/kK8NLB2

Especially the gamma in Hulk. There's also a scene where the one below all, the devil, basically say him and Hulk are equals. Hulk is the equivalent of OBA who is pure gamma/magic. So again, using the sun (lmao) and earth's gamma to paint a picture on how Hulks gamma work is laughable at best. There's more scans if you need it.

Originally posted by carver9
This is becoming irritating. Superman isn't absorbing this...

Originally posted by Delta1938
As pointed out, typical carter fail.



That same discharge from Hulk failed to have city melting effects despite it being said to be that level. Why are you only arguing lack of collateral damage for Superman?

Let's revisit this.



https://tinyurl.com/3f7hd2d8

https://tinyurl.com/3uaj3tyb

Superman absorbs dimensions ripped out of a 5D being and it doesn't kill him. Gamma is weak sauce by comparison.

Chechmate.

Please don't let me post other type of energy crushing Superman. He doesn't absorb anything. Hulk drains him with complete ease, though.

Originally posted by carver9
Please don't let me post other type of energy crushing Superman. He doesn't absorb anything. Hulk drains him with complete ease, though.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Revisiting this, I mentioned it has happened, depends on the energy. It happened twice with the Cosmic Rod(from Starman, but used by Star Spangled Kid).

https://tinyurl.com/2ypprtem

And again to Supergirl and Power Girl.

https://tinyurl.com/38ypm87m

I guess carter will dismiss them because they're "not fights."

Had been taking blasts from Evil Star(more of the fight happened before this) and it made him stronger.

https://tinyurl.com/msmztsmf

All these instances have a common denominator, "sunlight" or starlight, the stuff that Superman's cells are made to absorb, like a solar panel taking in sunlight.

You'd rarely if ever see him do this against generic energy blasts or other forms of energy, writers don't really treat him as an energy absorbed/drainer, only for sunlight.

Originally posted by Test123
All these instances have a common denominator, "sunlight" or starlight, the stuff that Superman's cells are made to absorb, like a solar panel taking in sunlight.

You'd rarely if ever see him do this against generic energy blasts or other forms of energy, writers don't really treat him as an energy absorbed/drainer, only for sunlight.

Oh is this an attempt to dismiss the times he's absorbed other forms of energy?

Originally posted by carver9
This is becoming irritating. Superman isn't absorbing this...

Originally posted by Juntai
Hulks energy has been captured, absorbed or drained etc in whole or part by too many machines/tech/characters over the years for anyone to believe something different would happen if Superman absorbed some of it being used against him.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Oh is this an attempt to dismiss the times he's absorbed other forms of energy?

No it's just not really a common occurence, more often than not he doesn't absorb other forms.

Originally posted by Test123
No it's just not really a common occurence, more often than not he doesn't absorb other forms. Not really a common occurrence for Thor either, even though he can as well.

Depends on the story being told.

Because at the end of the day, nothing in comics really tops a fist to the face.

Originally posted by Juntai


Hulk has been getting more powerful over the years as well and post a scan of Superman absorbing magic.

He's not amping off of Hulks gamma. Again, Hulk could absorb him EASILY.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk has been getting more powerful over the years as well and post a scan of Superman absorbing magic.

He's not amping off of Hulks gamma. Again, Hulk could absorb him EASILY.

Supes absorbs magic to power himself.
https://imgur.com/gallery/0VuwWm4

Supes absorbs Etrigans magic, uses the power to turn into a magical farmer and start spreading magic seeds of hope.
https://imgur.com/gallery/QV7W6lT

Travels to an alternate future where he learns to absorb and use magic as his source of power;
https://imgur.com/gallery/5TrWaZx

That's just a few off the top of my head to go along with the magical solar energy we saw Apollo use in my previous post.

Do you want to see him absorb and power himself with souls next or psionic energy?
Because he's done both.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
https://i.postimg.cc/g0JgXTXm/h-W18c1-Q-d.png

Superman wins.

By the way, the House of El is the house of Rao.
Though he created all the Kryptonians, Superman is the direct descendent of Rao himself.

Rao also created the ancestors of Earths gods.

Zeus and Odin get big mad when you talk about it.

https://imgur.com/gallery/iT4xlqc

They're all kinda cousins, but, you know, Supes is more powerful than all of them. His will directs the entire metaverse.

Originally posted by Test123
No it's just not really a common occurence, more often than not he doesn't absorb other forms.

So are you arguing it won't happen here or unlikely to? Well, as has been pointed out, gamma is part of sunlight, so not the best argument if that's what you're doing.

Carter just can't think straight because of what little blood fed his brain is feeding his Hulk hard on....which doesn't need much blood to fill to begin with.

Originally posted by Delta1938
So are you arguing it won't happen here or unlikely to? Well, as has been pointed out, gamma is part of sunlight, so not the best argument if that's what you're doing.

Carter just can't think straight because of what little blood fed his brain is feeding his Hulk hard on....which doesn't need much blood to fill to begin with.

I'm saying it's unlikely to occur, gamma is part of sunlight, but sunlight isn't part of gamma, it's more likely he doesn't absorb the gamma than vice-versa, just like how Thor chooses to brawl most of the time instead of absorbing via Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Juntai
Not really a common occurrence for Thor either, even though he can as well.

Depends on the story being told.

Because at the end of the day, nothing in comics really tops a fist to the face.

Yeah Thor fights like an idiot and just ignores all the powers he has thanks to Mjolnir, similar to Silver Surfer. Unless it's a big part of their character (like Quasar, Vulcan, or Starbreaker) most of these guys don't go around absorbing energy when hit with blasts.

Originally posted by Test123
I'm saying it's unlikely to occur, gamma is part of sunlight, but sunlight isn't part of gamma, it's more likely he doesn't absorb the gamma than vice-versa, just like how Thor chooses to brawl most of the time instead of absorbing via Mjolnir.

Not how it works. By your logic Superman couldn't have absorbed electricity, and yet he has.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman ADMITTED he couldn't control it. Stop trolling. It's irritating. He couldn't completely control it. Read the words carter.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He couldn't completely control it. Read the words carter.

He never said he couldn't completely control it. He said he had trouble controlling it and then in another scene, he said he couldn't control it at all. Cry!!!

Originally posted by Juntai
Supes absorbs magic to power himself.
https://imgur.com/gallery/0VuwWm4

Supes absorbs Etrigans magic, uses the power to turn into a magical farmer and start spreading magic seeds of hope.
https://imgur.com/gallery/QV7W6lT

Travels to an alternate future where he learns to absorb and use magic as his source of power;
https://imgur.com/gallery/5TrWaZx

That's just a few off the top of my head to go along with the magical solar energy we saw Apollo use in my previous post.

Do you want to see him absorb and power himself with souls next or psionic energy?
Because he's done both.

Not seeing a power up there, he disposed of it.

Each scene you've shown me, he gets rid of it. He has too (lol @ pre crisis scans. The desperation).

There's literally zero evidence proving what Hulk energy would do to him. It could be poison. Happened to Thor when Thor absorbed Hulks power. Heck, Hulk gamma turned Thor all mad, and crazy. Hulk gamma was poison to him. Maybe you'll say a mindless Supes is more dangerous. If you say that, I will gladly use sacrifice against you where a holding back Wonder Woman stalemated and defeated Supes.

Here's Odin telling Thor that absorbing Hulks energy was dark light from the under world (OBA), that was influencing him, making him do terrible stuff.

https://ibb.co/sqSFsRV

He can try to absorb and get his soul and mind ruined in the process by absorbing dark, mind changing magic.

Wasn't in the scene Carver mentioned that gamma-powered Thor was overpowering/killing with his bare hands?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Wasn't in the scene Carver mentioned that gamma-powered Thor was overpowering/killing with his bare hands?

Thor handling magic>>>>>>Supes handle of magic. Also, Hulk was holding back, he's not going to hold back here and saying that Supes handle of Gamma magic would be identical to Thors is laughable. We do know it will infect him though. Nice try. Didn't know Supes and Thor was identical physically.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor handling magic>>>>>>Supes handle of magic. Also, Hulk was holding back, he's not going to hold back here and saying that Supes handle of Gamma magic would be identical to Thors is laughable. We do know it will infect him though. Nice try. Didn't know Supes and Thor was identical physically.
Well, then I guess you need to show me where does it explicitly state Thor's affinity has something to do with his gamma-powered form's powerlevels

Originally posted by carver9
Not seeing a power up there, he disposed of it.

Each scene you've shown me, he gets rid of it. He has too (lol @ pre crisis scans. The desperation).

There's literally zero evidence proving what Hulk energy would do to him. It could be poison. Happened to Thor when Thor absorbed Hulks power. Heck, Hulk gamma turned Thor all mad, and crazy. Hulk gamma was poison to him. Maybe you'll say a mindless Supes is more dangerous. If you say that, I will gladly use sacrifice against you where a holding back Wonder Woman stalemated and defeated Supes.

Here's Odin telling Thor that absorbing Hulks energy was dark light from the under world (OBA), that was influencing him, making him do terrible stuff.

https://ibb.co/sqSFsRV

He can try to absorb and get his soul and mind ruined in the process by absorbing dark, mind changing magic. 🤣🤣

You just keep spouting nonsense and moving goalposts and moving on to something else.


He got rid of it in one scan. Nothing says he has to.


Hulks gamma has been absorbed in whole or part by too many machines/tech/characters and directly or indirectly over the years to make anyone think otherwise.

Originally posted by Juntai
🤣🤣

You just keep spouting nonsense and moving goalposts and moving on to something else.


He got rid of it in one scan. Nothing says he has to.


Hulks gamma has been absorbed in whole or part by too many machines/tech/characters and directly or indirectly over the years to make anyone think otherwise.

You keep failing to understand Hulk has been through upgrades since most of the showings you're referencing. The proof is on you to prove Supes can safely absorb Hulks energy.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well, then I guess you need to show me where does it explicitly state Thor's affinity has something to do with his gamma-powered form's powerlevels

You're right. Thor physical makeup equals Superman. Can I share Superman fts with Thor as well? Isn't kryptonite emits radiation as well? Let me check

Originally posted by carver9
You're right. Thor physical makeup equals Superman. Can I share Superman fts with Thor as well?
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. The post you made doesn't really make sense

You mentioning how Thor and Hulk fight went doesn't really make sense since we are unsure how the gamma poison would work on Superman since again, he is weak against magic.

Originally posted by carver9
You mentioning how Thor and Hulk fight went doesn't really make sense since we are unsure how the gamma poison would work on Superman since again, he is weak against magic.
Well

You first brought the fight to the table, in which Hulk was being assraped by a gamma-powered opponent
And used it to argue Hulk can beat a gamma-powered opponent in similar situation???

So I would say it seems indeed weird and wanted to point out

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well

You first brought the fight to the table, in which Hulk was being assraped by a gamma-powered opponent
And used it to argue Hulk can beat a gamma-powered opponent in similar situation???

So I would say it seems indeed weird and wanted to point out

Thor isn't weak against magic, so it empowering him (while driving him insane) is understandable, especially since we've seen the same effects in the past. Got scans of corrupt, magical gamma, powering Superman? I'll wait.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor isn't weak against magic, so it empowering him (while driving him insane) is understandable, especially since we've seen the same effects in the past. Got scans of corrupt, magical gamma, powering Superman? I'll wait.
Well, then you need to show me where the comics explicitly state Thor's affinity has something to do with his gamma-powered form's powerlevels.
Which, ironically, is the question I asked before, and you threw out a nonsensical response/you basically failed to grasp what I was saying.

See how nice I am?

We know gamma powers Superman, and Supes can use almost any energy to power himself. That's been proven. Superman can absorb and use magic, thats been proven.

It would be on you to prove anything else would/could happen.

And not trying to drain Hulks of his entire power, just the energy he's putting out, mind you. So its not something he's actively fighting to avoid being drained.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well, then you need to show me where the comics explicitly state Thor's affinity has something to do with his gamma-powered form's powerlevels.
Which, ironically, is the question I asked before, and you threw out a nonsensical response/you basically failed to grasp what I was saying.

See how nice I am?

I dont have to show you anything. On panel shows you Thor became a Hulk when he absorbed the gamma AND magic combo that altered his mind. The proof is on you to show me that if Superman absorbs magic/gamma combo, it'll have the same effect. Tony outright asks what would happen if a GOD was hit by this attack, nothing mentions it would happen to everyone. Thor has amped twice off of mystical gamma. Can Supes?

Originally posted by Juntai
We know gamma powers Superman, and Supes can use almost any energy to power himself. That's been proven. Superman can absorb and use magic, thats been proven.

It would be on you to prove anything else would/could happen.

And not trying to drain Hulks of his entire power, just the energy he's putting out, mind you. So its not something he's actively fighting to avoid being drained.

You're right. Thor absorbed gamma energy which means that he can absorb and amp off of Superman heat vision.

Originally posted by carver9
I dont have to show you anything. On panel shows you Thor became a Hulk when he absorbed the gamma AND magic combo that altered his mind. The proof is on you to show me that if Superman absorbs magic/gamma combo, it'll have the same effect. Tony outright asks what would happen if a GOD was hit by this attack, nothing mentions it would happen to everyone. Thor has amped twice off of mystical gamma. Can Supes?
So I take this as you've nothing?

And if it doesn't necessarily have the same effect as now you're arguing, why did you bring it here in the first place?

Just like I posted before. It's weird to use gamma Thor as an analogy, when said Thor was killing Hulk in the instance
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well

You first brought the fight to the table, in which Hulk was being assraped by a gamma-powered opponent
And used it to argue Hulk can beat a gamma-powered opponent in similar situation???

So I would say it seems indeed weird and wanted to point out

Originally posted by Delta1938
Not how it works. By your logic Superman couldn't have absorbed electricity, and yet he has.

Not "couldn't" but is unlikely to, and instead gets hurt by electricity instead of absorbing it.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. The post you made doesn't really make sense

Or he's arguing a strawman. But maybe I'm giving him too much credit.

Originally posted by Test123
Not "couldn't" but is unlikely to, and instead gets hurt by electricity instead of absorbing it.

Gamma is light. It's higher frequency than visible light, but still light. It being able to be absorbed or not isn't because of how you think it should work.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So I take this as you've nothing?

And if it doesn't necessarily have the same effect as now you're arguing, why did you bring it here in the first place?

Just like I posted before. It's weird to use gamma Thor as an analogy, when said Thor was killing Hulk in the instance

I can bring Thor into this because again, it turned him MENTALLY into something he didn't want to be. It poisoned him. It will poison TF outta Superman as well and we don't have any solid proof that it'll Hulk him out.

Originally posted by carver9
I can bring Thor into this because again, it turned him MENTALLY into something he didn't want to be. It poisoned him. It will poison TF outta Superman as well and we don't have any solid proof that it'll Hulk him out.

Prove It'll poison Superman.

I already proved it poisons people. The only thing that needs to be proved is it amping Superman and it won't. QW is trying to say that since it amped Thor, it'll amp Superman when there isn't a shed of proof that Superman and Thor bodies handles magical gamma the same way.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Gamma is light. It's higher frequency than visible light, but still light. It being able to be absorbed or not isn't because of how you think it should work.

But it's not sunlight which is what Superman's cells are designed to absorb, that's why he doesn't go around absorbing radiation from nukes when he's hit by them, often times he gets KO'ed or hurt by it.

Originally posted by Test123
But it's not sunlight which is what Superman's cells are designed to absorb, that's why he doesn't go around absorbing radiation from nukes when he's hit by them, often times he gets KO'ed or hurt by it.

It's part of sunlight. That's like arguing because you're eating the bread, not a sandwich, you won't get calories. And your argument about nukes is weak and requires using older and low showings.

Originally posted by carver9
I already proved it poisons people. The only thing that needs to be proved is it amping Superman and it won't. QW is trying to say that since it amped Thor, it'll amp Superman when there isn't a shed of proof that Superman and Thor bodies handles magical gamma the same way.

Fail as usual Derrick. It's part of sunlight, so it poisoning others means nothing to Superman. You keep harping on this retcon showing how utterly dishonest a hypocrite you are, given when you focus on the previous showings instead of current. You've already been given ample evidence against you, but ignore it. Or am I giving you too much credit assuming you understand it?

Also waiting for an answer in the Hulk vs Gladiator thread where I asked if you even knew the title of the comic you used.

Lol... nukes have gamma as well, just like he said, and it knocks Superman TF out every single time.

Here, Superman body absorbs the radiation from a nuclear blast and it nearly killed him. Heck, it was so deadly that he was having trouble absorbing yellow sun light. Became painful.

https://ibb.co/7bXpV3L

So where's it from? You used something dishonestly recently.

Originally posted by carver9
Standard, Banner Hulk vs Gladiator.

http://i.imgur.com/VGIpifjm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/32MIreCm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ahFIJmvm.jpg

Thanks Galan for the scans.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Non canon lol

Originally posted by carver9
Why is it non-canon?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its an ash can print, literally printed for trademark and not intended for sale.

Originally posted by carver9
Prove that. Also prove that it's not canon.

Juntai--



Originally posted by Juntai
"Hang on bro, let me pull out my totally canon comic I got out a snack cake and show you some feats. Check this bad boy out."

https://imgur.com/gallery/DaSTDuz

I noticed you not replying to that.

Juntai, if he could NOT amp off of the radiation generating from nuclear attack, then my comment stands. Also, Diana fought those same beings. She fought alongside an Superman, who before the fight, was amped off of tech, and she also fought Apollo. He absorbed radiation from the nuclear attack that nearly killed him and had him in pain afterwards. After that beat down, if they would've thrown him in the sun, he would've been ok. Lmmfao, Banner in human form withstood nukes. Banner in human form was also able to absorb cosmic and Gamma energy. Superman is just weak sauce.

You're always full of excuses, lol, like you saying the Ale turns people into liars, now you're saying that because Superman got beat up, absorbing energy is different for him now.

Change your name to 'excuse king'

Originally posted by carver9
Juntai, if he could NOT amp off of the radiation generating from nuclear attack, then my comment stands. Also, Diana fought those same beings. She fought alongside an Superman, who before the fight, was amped off of tech, and she also fought Apollo. He absorbed radiation from the nuclear attack that nearly killed him and had him in pain afterwards. After that beat down, if they would've thrown him in the sun, he would've been ok. Lmmfao, Banner in human form withstood nukes. Banner in human form was also able to absorb cosmic and Gamma energy. Superman is just weak sauce.

You're always full of excuses, lol, like you saying the Ale turns people into liars, now you're saying that because Superman got beat up, absorbing energy is different for him now.

Change your name to 'excuse king'

You do realize you're still proving you're a liar, right?

Derrick getting serenaded in his own thread.

SMumMeljP9s

And that nuclear explosion with Neutron while Superman was literally in kryptonite, which actually does poison him, and he shrugged it off.

Originally posted by Delta1938
It's part of sunlight. That's like arguing because you're eating the bread, not a sandwich, you won't get calories. And your argument about nukes is weak and requires using older and low showings.

No it's not because by the time sunlight escapes the sun the gamma is lost, very little is left. Most of it is part of the nuclear fusion.

Again, you don't see Superman absorbing nukes whenever they go off, he doesn't get supercharged by them, not in older or newer showings, he doesn't go around absorbing stuff.

Originally posted by Test123
No it's not because by the time sunlight escapes the sun the gamma is lost, very little is left. Most of it is part of the nuclear fusion.

Again, you don't see Superman absorbing nukes whenever they go off, he doesn't get supercharged by them, not in older or newer showings, he doesn't go around absorbing stuff.

So you're trying to argue that he suddenly doesn't absorb it when he's in it?

And Maggeddon says hi on the absorbing.

Originally posted by Delta1938
So you're trying to argue that he suddenly doesn't absorb it when he's in it?

And Maggeddon says hi on the absorbing.

If he absorbed it why is he damaged by it? Why doesn't he get supercharged whenever he's blasted by someone like Eradicator or Cyborg Superman? Or a nuke being dropped?

Originally posted by carver9
I already proved it poisons people.
Yet
Originally posted by carver9
Banner in human form was also able to absorb cosmic and Gamma energy.
So...Banner, a human, absorbs Gamma energy just fine. Then how would it necessarily poison people?

Originally posted by carver9
I can bring Thor into this because again, it turned him MENTALLY into something he didn't want to be. It poisoned him. It will poison TF outta Superman as well and we don't have any solid proof that it'll Hulk him out.
Oh, and for this part. All it proves Gamma turned Thor into a Hulk...like it normally does. Doesn't mean it would do Superman more damage than Thor

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yet

So...Banner, a human, absorbs Gamma energy just fine. Then how would it necessarily poison people?

Did you really ask why BANNER is able to absorb gamma? Hulk comics cost 2.99 at local comic stores. You should visit one first thing this week.

Originally posted by carver9
He never said he couldn't completely control it. He said he had trouble controlling it and then in another scene, he said he couldn't control it at all. Cry!!!
Of course he did, it was in your own scans lol. Originally posted by carver9
Thor handling magic>>>>>>Supes handle of magic. Also, Hulk was holding back, he's not going to hold back here and saying that Supes handle of Gamma magic would be identical to Thors is laughable. We do know it will infect him though. Nice try. Didn't know Supes and Thor was identical physically.
Hulk was holding back to death lol

Originally posted by carver9
Here, Superman body absorbs the radiation from a nuclear blast and it nearly killed him. Heck, it was so deadly that he was having trouble absorbing yellow sun light. Became painful.

https://ibb.co/7bXpV3L
Removed from continuity lol

Originally posted by carver9
Did you really ask why BANNER is able to absorb gamma? Hulk comics cost 2.99 at local comic stores. You should visit one first thing this week.
Nope, I'm asking why would gamma necessarily poison people. What is the difference between gamma Thor and numerous other gamma powered characters?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Removed from continuity lol

Keep thinking that.

Originally posted by carver9
Keep thinking that.
Faora doesn't even exists anymore lol and Zod was released from phantom zone for the first time in Suicide Squad.

Superman/Wonder Woman romance was removed from the continuity too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Faora doesn't even exists anymore lol and Zod was released from phantom zone for the first time in Suicide Squad.

Superman/Wonder Woman romance was removed from the continuity too.

Was this some official retcon or do the timelines just no longer add up?

It was never rectonned. New 52 is vanon, ALL OF IT. Unless stated by a writer, it's canon.

Originally posted by Test123
Was this some official retcon or do the timelines just no longer add up?
Its an official retcon, Superman Reborn retconned that whole phase out. Originally posted by carver9
It was never rectonned. New 52 is vanon, ALL OF IT. Unless stated by a writer, it's canon.
Superman/Wonder Woman book isn't.