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Not sure of War Hulks feats, but DSentry was beyond physical harm.

Originally posted by tkitna
Not sure of War Hulks feats, but DSentry was beyond physical harm.

Only saw scans, but his biggest feat I'm aware of was he stopped Juggernaut overcoming the "unstoppable" enchantment, before TKOing him(Juggernaut still had his eyes open but was dazed). Wasn't an immediate stop IRRC but like dug his feet in the ground and slowed him to a stop.

Originally posted by tkitna
Not sure of War Hulks feats, but DSentry was beyond physical harm.


A random bug simply swallowed him.

Originally posted by abhilegend


A random bug simply swallowed him.

Yeah a worm swallowed him to allow the story to progress. Typical stuff when regarding any storyline involving the Sentry. You can choose to ignore all the other stuff and feats if you want.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Only saw scans, but his biggest feat I'm aware of was he stopped Juggernaut overcoming the "unstoppable" enchantment, before TKOing him(Juggernaut still had his eyes open but was dazed). Wasn't an immediate stop IRRC but like dug his feet in the ground and slowed him to a stop.

Oh wait, is War Hulk the same Hulk that the normal, wigged out Sentry fought? If so, DSentry stomps him.

Originally posted by tkitna
Yeah a worm swallowed him to allow the story to progress. Typical stuff when regarding any storyline involving the Sentry. You can choose to ignore all the other stuff and feats if you want.
Sentry fans : Noooo, you can't use anything that defeated Sentry, it was all for plot......

Never ceases to be amusing lol

Originally posted by tkitna
Oh wait, is War Hulk the same Hulk that the normal, wigged out Sentry fought? If so, DSentry stomps him.

No. He was made Apocalypse's War.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sentry fans : Noooo, you can't use anything that defeated Sentry, it was all for plot......

Never ceases to be amusing lol

Lol. Come on Abhi. I know you hate the Sentry but your just being silly right now. Everybody knows it was PIS and so do you. What was Marvel supposed to do, let Dsentry kill Janet? She summoned some alien worm that took Dsentry out of the story momentarily so she could escape. Its not like the worm killed him or something.

Seriously, your trying to hard buddy.

Originally posted by Delta1938
No. He was made Apocalypse's War.

Not familiar with that storyline. If I read it, i've forgotten about it. I'll have to look into it to see if he has anything going for him besides more physical strength.

Originally posted by tkitna
Oh wait, is War Hulk the same Hulk that the normal, wigged out Sentry fought? If so, DSentry stomps him.

They never fought.

Originally posted by tkitna
Lol. Come on Abhi. I know you hate the Sentry but your just being silly right now. Everybody knows it was PIS and so do you. What was Marvel supposed to do, let Dsentry kill Janet? She summoned some alien worm that took Dsentry out of the story momentarily so she could escape. Its not like the worm killed him or something.

Seriously, your trying to hard buddy.

ABHI hates Marvel.

Originally posted by tkitna
Not familiar with that storyline. If I read it, i've forgotten about it. I'll have to look into it to see if he has anything going for him besides more physical strength.

First just to get ahead of, well, anybody (looking at dummy Derrick), I'm not arguing in this, I just told you what I know this version of Hulk did and that no, it's not who you thought.

I'm posting the following link for the pictures so you can see which Hulk, but it has the issue references in the bio if you want to read it.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/warhulk.htm

Originally posted by tkitna
Lol. Come on Abhi. I know you hate the Sentry but your just being silly right now. Everybody knows it was PIS and so do you. What was Marvel supposed to do, let Dsentry kill Janet?

LMAO, grim reaper actually killed captain America in the same arc. It was a time travel story.

It imprisoned the ultra, super duper sentry lol.





Sentry got defeated by a random worm, no matter how much you whine.

Originally posted by carver9
ABHI hates Marvel.

Originally posted by abhilegend
LMAO, grim reaper actually killed captain America in the same arc. It was a time travel story.

It imprisoned the ultra, super duper sentry lol.





Sentry got defeated by a random worm, no matter how much you whine.

You truly are hopeless arent you? Yes, an alien worm swallowed Sentry and momentarily imprisoned him. You win. Hope that makes you feel better buddy.

Originally posted by tkitna
You truly are hopeless arent you? Yes, an alien worm swallowed Sentry and momentarily imprisoned him. You win. Hope that makes you feel better buddy.
Momentarily? Sentry never escaped lol

Originally posted by abhilegend
Momentarily? Sentry never escaped lol

Oh my bad. That must have been somebody else flying off with that Celestial.

Originally posted by tkitna
Oh my bad. That must have been somebody else flying off with that Celestial.
They reversed time before Sentry was swallowed by the worm. Read the story for once lmao

DD Sentry wins, and it wouldn't be close. Look how easily he beat Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
They reversed time before Sentry was swallowed by the worm. Read the story for once lmao

The worm was a plot device.

Who cares?

Originally posted by Stoic
DD Sentry wins, and it wouldn't be close. Look how easily he beat Thor.

Look how easily War Hulk handled Juggernaut and Absorbing Man, two beings that has given Thor trouble.

Originally posted by tkitna
Not sure of War Hulks feats, but DSentry was beyond physical harm.

He wasnt beyond physical harm. He could very much be harmed and was throughout Uncanny Avengers.

He did have however amazing regenerative abilities, which meant he could swiftly recover from being harmed.

Originally posted by Stoic
Look how easily he beat Thor.

Everyone easily beats Thor, fyi.

The speed difference seals the deal. He was able to punch Thor well out of orbit. Hulk can't fly.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He wasnt beyond physical harm. He could very much be harmed and was throughout Uncanny Avengers.

He did have however amazing regenerative abilities, which meant he could swiftly recover from being harmed.

I'm just stating that physical harm did nothing to him. The guy ripped his own head apart just for theatrics. Not sure how a character with nothing more than physical stats is supposed to win against that and a ton more powers at his disposal.

Originally posted by tkitna
I'm just stating that physical harm did nothing to him. The guy ripped his own head apart just for theatrics. Not sure how a character with nothing more than physical stats is supposed to win against that and a ton more powers at his disposal.

Oh for sure. Wasnt putting a vote in for Hulk. Was just addressing that point about Sentry being beyond physical harm which isnt true.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Oh for sure. Wasnt putting a vote in for Hulk. Was just addressing that point about Sentry being beyond physical harm which isnt true. Against plain physical force (punches, kicks, etc) he was. Now magic or some other plot device (some power used to render him powerless) is not plain physical force.
Now we are referring to DS Sentry and no other version.

Originally posted by h1a8
Against plain physical force (punches, kicks, etc) he was. Now magic or some other plot device (some power used to render him powerless) is not plain physical force.
Now we are referring to DS Sentry and no other version.

No. He could demonstrably be physically harmed. However his regenerative abilities meant any harm was short lived as he could regenerate.

You gotta recognise and appreciate the definition of words.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
No. He could demonstrably be physically harmed. However his regenerative abilities meant any harm was short lived as he could regenerate.

You gotta recognise and appreciate the definition of words. Beyond physical harm doesn't mean can't be temporarily damaged. It means physical harm will effectively do nothing as an end result. Semantics

Originally posted by h1a8
Beyond physical harm doesn't mean can't be temporarily damaged. It means physical harm will effectively do nothing as an end result. Semantics

Semantics would be you making a debate out of it when ultimately you acknowledged i was correct. Drop the pride. Its ok to just admit im right sometimes.

But he was actually immune to harm. What was seen was just another puppet that Robert under the effects of the death seed imagined himself as being. Take note of the words that he spoke concerning his relationship with death. The Sentry, or Bob in this case is immortal. This will be confirmed with his next appearance.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Semantics would be you making a debate out of it when ultimately you acknowledged i was correct. Drop the pride. Its ok to just admit im right sometimes.

In arguing Semantics, you are not correct Sir. There is no all agreed upon or precise definition of "beyond physical harm". The expression can mean exactly what I said it to mean.
For instance, Some characters have been stated "in comics" to be "beyond death" due to the character's ability to come back from death.

All you had to do was CLARIFY what YOU MEANT and that is all. No debating type talk was necessary.

Going by what YOU MEAN, then you are correct Sir. DS can be temporarily damaged by physical force. But that is irrelevant to the previous points given that you commented on. So you were both creating strawmen (and missing the point) and then arguing semantics.

Originally posted by h1a8
In arguing Semantics, you are not correct Sir. There is no all agreed upon or precise definition of "beyond physical harm". The expression can mean exactly what I said it to mean.
For instance, Some characters have been stated "in comics" to be "beyond death" due to the character's ability to come back from death.

All you had to do was CLARIFY what YOU MEANT and that is all. No debating type talk was necessary.

Going by what YOU MEAN, then you are correct Sir. DS can be temporarily damaged by physical force. But that is irrelevant to the previous points given that you commented on. So you were both creating strawmen (and missing the point) and then arguing semantics.

Not at all. To harm something is to by definition cause physical damage to something.

To state something is beyond physical harm is to assert that it cannot be damaged in any way.

Clarifying the truth of such a statement is both essential and very relevant to a debate regarding how characters fare comparatively in a physical face off.

So not semantics. You dismissed it as semantics as a substitute for just accepting i was quite correct. The dissertation/thesis was surplus to requirements. All that was needed was a "Youre right GS."

Galactic is correct in stating he was able to be physically harmed as physical force had an effect as his physical body was able to be damaged. Stoic was also correct in stating he was immune to it as it had no lasting effects.

In another words, a character could bash his skull in a million times but it would be useless and never enough because he would just keep reforming and coming back.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Not at all. To harm something is to by definition cause physical damage to something.

To state something is beyond physical harm is to assert that it cannot be damaged in any way.
False as I stated why. All you did was repeat the same old nonsense. That's not a rebuttal (repeating yourself).
"Beyond" can imply recover or restoration.
You have a habit of making false statements as if they are facts. They are not facts.



Another false statement.
The point was that Sentry will not lose against physical attacks. Whether he's resistant, above, beyond, etc is irrelevant.
You are not arguing against the point but rather nitpicking Semantics issues.

I just pointed out that you were not correct even if arguing Semantics.


DS can't lose to physical force (stated in a different manner).
You chose to argue the wording and not the point.
What a debater you are.

Originally posted by tkitna
Galactic is correct in stating he was able to be physically harmed as physical force had an effect as his physical body was able to be damaged. Stoic was also correct in stating he was immune to it as it had no lasting effects.

In another words, a character could bash his skull in a million times but it would be useless and never enough because he would just keep reforming and coming back. He's not correct because you didn't argued otherwise nor meant it that way. You clearly meant that DS is able to reform from any damage that came from physical means.
For him to assume you meant that DS can't be temporarily damaged is an insult to your (and ours) intelligence.

Basically you said, "DS was beyond physical harm."
He replied,"He wasn't beyond physical harm."

Everyone and their mama knew what you meant, except idiot Galactic who wants to argue the wording and not the meaning.

Originally posted by h1a8
He's not correct because you didn't argued otherwise nor meant it that way. You clearly meant that DS is able to reform from any damage that came from physical means.
For him to assume you meant that DS can't be temporarily damaged is an insult to your (and ours) intelligence.

Basically you said, "DS was beyond physical harm."
He replied,"He wasn't beyond physical harm."

Everyone and their mama knew what you meant, except idiot Galactic who wants to argue the wording and not the meaning.

I didnt debate Galactic because he was technically correct. Thor bashed his skull in, so he's technically not immune to physical harm. Of course he was fine moments afterwards, but its not the same thing.

Its not worth arguing about anyways.

Originally posted by tkitna
I didnt debate Galactic because he was technically correct. Thor bashed his skull in, so he's technically not immune to physical harm. Of course he was fine moments afterwards, but its not the same thing.

Its not worth arguing about anyways.

Tell him. Hes got a chip on his shoulder after my last debate with him thats all this is.

But youre of more sound and objective mind. Sentry is not beyond physical harm and it was important to establish that in a versus debate.


However he has immense regenerative capacity meaning that anything short of disintegration would mean he could regenerate in a sufficiently timely manner without it being counted as a loss under forum rulings.

War Hulk doesnt possess the necessary abilities to achieve such an outcome and is too much of a one trick pony to battle Sentry effectively, therefore Sentry wins.

Originally posted by tkitna
I didnt debate Galactic because he was technically correct. Thor bashed his skull in, so he's technically not immune to physical harm. Of course he was fine moments afterwards, but its not the same thing.

Its not worth arguing about anyways.
Short memory?
Go back to the very beginning of the thread.
You posted that "DS Sentry was beyond physical harm."
Everyone knew what you meant (DS Sentry can regenerate from damage).
Galactic quoted you and responded with, "He's not beyond physical harm."

So either
1. He's wrong because he mistook what you meant (he assumed you meant can't be damaged at all).
Or
2. He knew what you meant and chose to argue wording. In that case he's still wrong because your wording was fine.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Tell him. Hes got a chip on his shoulder after my last debate with him thats all this is.

But youre of more sound and objective mind. Sentry is not beyond physical harm and it was important to establish that in a versus debate.


However he has immense regenerative capacity meaning that anything short of disintegration would mean he could regenerate in a sufficiently timely manner without it being counted as a loss under forum rulings.

War Hulk doesnt possess the necessary abilities to achieve such an outcome and is too much of a one trick pony to battle Sentry effectively, therefore Sentry wins.

So you are still arguing wording, especially after he just clarified what his statement meant THRICE?

We can agree to disagree on what the wording means (Semantics) but you continuing to argue against something that wasn't claimed is asinine.
No one has stated nor meant DS can't be damaged.
Yet you keep stating that he can for what reason?
Still arguing Semantics?

Originally posted by h1a8
So you are still arguing wording, especially after he just clarified what his statement meant THRICE?

We can agree to disagree on what the wording means (Semantics) but you continuing to argue against something that wasn't claimed is asinine.
No one has stated nor meant DS can't be damaged.
Yet you keep stating that he can for what reason?
Still arguing Semantics?

If everyone knew what Tkitna meant, if no one was saying that Sentry couldnt be physically harmed (despite the words to the contrary) and i was therefore technically quite correct, why did you quote me and start what would therefore have been an entirely unnecessary discourse right from the start?

Why? Cos youre still mad

Look at Tkitnas approach. He could see i was technically correct and just kept it moving. You however couldnt accept that and wanted to make a mountain out of a mole hill in a misguided attempt to achieve some kind of victory over me after i cooked you in June.

Let it go. Dont take debates so personally. I dont dwell on that previous debate, but it seems to be playing on your mind daily. Move on. No hard feelings

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If everyone knew what Tkitna meant, if no one was saying that Sentry couldnt be physically harmed (despite the words to the contrary) and i was therefore technically quite correct, why did you quote me and start what would therefore have been an entirely unnecessary discourse right from the start?

Why? Cos youre still mad

Look at Tkitnas approach. He could see i was technically correct and just kept it moving. You however couldnt accept that and wanted to make a mountain out of a mole hill in a misguided attempt to achieve some kind of victory over me after i cooked you in June.

Let it go. Dont take debates so personally. I dont dwell on that previous debate, but it seems to be playing on your mind daily. Move on. No hard feelings

He is bias against me and for you. He's not going to argue against you over me. So basically he's lying (unless he didn't understand at the time this is all about his initial statement).

But that's irrelevant.
A dumb idiot knew what tkitna meant, except you.

Why would a well know poster state that Sentry can't be physically damaged? Give him the benefit of the doubt. You should have assumed he meant healing factor. You just assume he's an idiot or something. That shows your intelligence (very low).

So I have evidence that "Beyond...." means end result is naught.
Tkitna meant it that way, exhibit A
Various comics used that expression to mean return to the original state, exhibit B.
Therefore you are not correct in what the phrase means.

Originally posted by h1a8
He is bias against me and for you. He's not going to argue against you over me. So basically he's lying (unless he didn't understand at the time this is all about his initial statement).

But that's irrelevant.
A dumb idiot knew what tkitna meant, except you.

Why would a well know poster state that Sentry can't be physically damaged? Give him the benefit of the doubt. You should have assumed he meant healing factor. You just assume he's an idiot or something. That shows your intelligence (very low).

So I have evidence that "Beyond...." means end result is naught.
Tkitna meant it that way, exhibit A
Various comics used that expression to mean return to the original state, exhibit B.
Therefore you are not correct in what the phrase means.

We dont work on assumptions here. Thats the sign of a weak debater. Which might explain why youre so willing to let assumptions slide. We all hold ourselves to different standards i guess. Each to their own.

Theres a difference between being able to recover from physical harm and not being able to be physically harmed at all. Said difference can decide the outcome in a versus match with rules around what's counted as a loss. For example If Sentry could be damaged to the point where he cant regenerate within a reasonable amount of time then thats a loss. If Sentry cant be physically damaged at all and hes facing a foe who is limited to fisticuffs then Sentry isnt losing.

Before you decided to quote me and make a hoo-hah about everything, i had already expanded on my original comment. Tkitna replied and we reconciled and came to an understanding.

You however, still sore from Junes debate and distinctly incapable of out debating me on a character vs character front (i.e. what this forum's bloody for) decided to try and make a debate out of semantics, when the discussion point had concluded even before your redundancy entered the fray.

Wishing you healing bro. You remain traumatised and that must suck. crutch

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
We dont work on assumptions here. Thats the sign of a weak debater. Which might explain why youre so willing to let assumptions slide. We all hold ourselves to different standards i guess. Each to their own.

Theres a difference between being able to recover from physical harm and not being able to be physically harmed at all. Said difference can decide the outcome in a versus match with rules around what's counted as a loss. For example If Sentry could be damaged to the point where he cant regenerate within a reasonable amount of time then thats a loss. If Sentry cant be physically damaged at all and hes facing a foe who is limited to fisticuffs then Sentry isnt losing.

Before you decided to quote me and make a hoo-hah about everything, i had already expanded on my original comment. Tkitna replied and we reconciled and came to an understanding.

You however, still sore from Junes debate and distinctly incapable of out debating me on a character vs character front (i.e. what this forum's bloody for) decided to try and make a debate out of semantics, when the discussion point had concluded even before your redundancy entered the fray.

Wishing you healing bro. You remain traumatised and that must suck. crutch

You can say what you want but it's clear that you are dense asf for not knowing what Tkitna meant. That was just plain stupid. Everyone here knows DS has been damaged.
Then you want to try to save face and argue what words mean.

You are wrong twice, for not understanding Tkitna and for the meaning of "beyond physical harm."

You started it with that silly reply.
Just admit that you were wrong twice.

Originally posted by h1a8
You can say what you want but it's clear that you are dense asf for not knowing what Tkitna meant. That was just plain stupid. Everyone here knows DS has been damaged.
Then you want to try to save face and argue what words mean.

You are wrong twice, for not understanding Tkitna and for the meaning of "beyond physical harm."

You started it with that silly reply.
Just admit that you were wrong twice.

Its not about not knowing what he meant, its about clarifying points and making someone commit to their perspective in writing. Its a strategy. You however carry on not clarifying a damn thing and debating based on assumptions and guesswork and look where thats gotten you lol.

As i said, we all hold ourselves to different standards.

My issue with what Tkitna said, was discussed and reconciled with Tkitna and all before your involvement and yet you tried to create further debate out of the issue anyway.

Let it go mate and rebuild your self esteem elsewhere.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Its not about not knowing what he meant, its about clarifying points and making someone commit to their perspective in writing. Its a strategy. You however carry on not clarifying a damn thing and debating based on assumptions and guesswork and look where thats gotten you lol.

As i said, we all hold ourselves to different standards.

My issue with what Tkitna said, was discussed and reconciled with Tkitna and all before your involvement and yet you tried to create further debate out of the issue anyway.

Let it go mate and rebuild your self esteem elsewhere.

Strategy? No one here thinks DS is indestructible. Nothing needed to be clarified. You just had a dumb moment. Admit it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Strategy? No one here thinks DS is indestructible. Nothing needed to be clarified. You just had a dumb moment. Admit it.

You have demonstrated within this thread that dumb is your perpetual state.

Commiserations.

Once again, sorry i hurt your feelings last month, but get over it