Superboy Prime vs Gladiator, Sentry and Hyperion

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lawest9
Who wins?

carver9
Sentry solos.

abhilegend
Prime oneshots all three

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Sentry solos. Sbp has greater feats than Sentry.
He would one-shot ko Sentry.

Thinkerer
SBP

playa1258
SBP wins. Sentry is one of the worst characters ever created in comics history.

MrMind
Sbp uses sentry's body to beat hulk to death

Diesldude

h1a8

carver9
WBH and Betty
Jumping off the planet








Breaking chain ft (chains doesn't have any fts proving the legitimacy of his statement about them).

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
WBH and Betty
Jumping off the planet








Breaking chain ft (chains doesn't have any fts proving the legitimacy of his statement about them).

So ignore writer's intent?

Same goes for Hulk's sun feat right and all his other feats by him and marvel counterparts? You can't have it both ways.

abhilegend
Originally posted by h1a8
1. Breaking chains feat
2. Hulk and Betty shared feat
3. Jumping off feat

Sbp has a feat where he hauls planets around the universe like chess pieces. That's either 1 or 2 (right behind the chain feat).
Jumping off feat is better than both of them. The planet was so dense that Superman was unable to fly off even at FTL speed.

h1a8
Originally posted by abhilegend
Jumping off feat is better than both of them. The planet was so dense that Superman was unable to fly off even at FTL speed. I thought Superman was almost depleted of solar energy. He was fully powered and the planet was that dense?

abhilegend
Originally posted by h1a8
I thought Superman was almost depleted of solar energy. He was fully powered and the planet was that dense?
When he arrived at the planet he was fully powered and yet unable to escape.

Even when he was near death and destroyed the planet, he flew across a whole galaxy which shows he was still FTL.

zopzop
Sentry is T2's only hope. And even that depends on which Sentry shows up.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
So ignore writer's intent?

Same goes for Hulk's sun feat right and all his other feats by him and marvel counterparts? You can't have it both ways.

The villain in the comic that mentioned the chain capabilities lied throughout the comic. He's not reliable. The staff with the weight of the sun was even mentioned in Proxima bio.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
The villain in the comic that mentioned the chain capabilities lied throughout the comic. He's not reliable. The staff with the weight of the sun was even mentioned in Proxima bio.
Where did he lie Carv and what was the lie about?
The villain doesn't exist. There is no such thing as not reliable. That term is for living things that EXIST.

The writer will show a character lying if they are lying. If a writer doesn't show a character lying then said character is not lying (the writer wants the reader to know he's lying).

h1a8
Originally posted by abhilegend
When he arrived at the planet he was fully powered and yet unable to escape.

Even when he was near death and destroyed the planet, he flew across a whole galaxy which shows he was still FTL.

Wow I didn't know that. Superman was able to escape black holes before. So that planet had more mass than a black hole?

What issue is that from anyway?

abhilegend
Originally posted by h1a8
Wow I didn't know that. Superman was able to escape black holes before. So that planet had more mass than a black hole?

What issue is that from anyway?
Justice League 20-23 (2018). The planet busting happened in issue 23.

Yes, it was by all accounts.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
Where did he lie Carv and what was the lie about?
The villain doesn't exist. There is no such thing as not reliable. That term is for living things that EXIST.

The writer will show a character lying if they are lying. If a writer doesn't show a character lying then said character is not lying (the writer wants the reader to know he's lying).

The same guy who said that, also said these robots are stronger than Superman and faster (and smarter) than Superman.

https://ibb.co/FgP1nzS

But it took 3 to take down Batman, Hawkman were ripping through them with ease, Aquaman took out one and a group of them were taken out with a rannian gun. Do you think these people can take on and kill a gang of beings stronger, faster and smarter than Superman in one hit? Yes or no? You'll probably say no and you know what I'm going to say after that...

https://ibb.co/hchC79L
https://ibb.co/yV87hKn
https://ibb.co/dL6C68s

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
The same guy who said that, also said these robots are stronger than Superman and faster (and smarter) than Superman.

https://ibb.co/FgP1nzS

But it took 3 to take down Batman, Hawkman were ripping through them with ease, Aquaman took out one and a group of them were taken out with a rannian gun. Do you think these people can take on and kill a gang of beings stronger, faster and smarter than Superman in one hit? Yes or no? You'll probably say no and you know what I'm going to say after that...

https://ibb.co/hchC79L
https://ibb.co/yV87hKn
https://ibb.co/dL6C68s
How did they beat Captain marvel, Flash, Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Swamp Thing etc when they were barely Batman/Hawkman level carver?

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
How did they beat Captain marvel, Flash, Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Swamp Thing etc when they were barely Batman/Hawkman level carver?

By overwhelming them? Hawkman did mention fighting them for hours AND, there were always more than one fighting each opponent. It took 3 to take out Nightwing, lol...

https://ibb.co/5nDFJC0
https://ibb.co/1m3nzb7

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
By overwhelming them? Hawkman did mention fighting them for hours AND, there were always more than one fighting each opponent. It took 3 to take out Nightwing, lol...

https://ibb.co/5nDFJC0
https://ibb.co/1m3nzb7
How many nightwing level beings does it take to beat wonder woman?

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
How many nightwing level beings does it take to beat wonder woman?

How many of those robots defeated Wonder Woman. We saw the end of the fight with her but we have no clue how long the fight was going on, how many jumped her, if she got surprised attacked; nothing. This is all we saw...

https://ibb.co/Pz1BqxK

tkitna
Originally posted by zopzop
Sentry is T2's only hope. And even that depends on which Sentry shows up.

This and he would have to pull something up instead of just a physical assault. He would have to go full out molecule man on him.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
How many of those robots defeated Wonder Woman. We saw the end of the fight with her but we have no clue how long the fight was going on, how many jumped her, if she got surprised attacked; nothing. This is all we saw...

https://ibb.co/Pz1BqxK
Give us a number, how many nightwing level beings does it take to beat Wonder woman? It's a simple question.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Give us a number, how many nightwing level beings does it take to beat Wonder woman? It's a simple question.

My point is, they are not Superman level based off their showings. Justice League members taking them out easily proves they are not Superman level.

Do you think a single one of these robots are faster, smarter, stronger and beyond Superman comprehension?

https://ibb.co/Rzj896F

Is his statement true?

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
My point is, they are not Superman level based off their showings. Justice League members taking them out easily proves they are not Superman level.

Do you think a single one of these robots are faster, smarter, stronger and beyond Superman comprehension?

https://ibb.co/Rzj896F

Is his statement true?
You went from nightwing level to not Superman level pretty quick.

Anyway, the villain underestimation of Superman has nothing to do with a simple explanation of the chains that haul stars. The same writer wrote Supergirl as someone who can haul stars too.

https://postimg.cc/rKGQ16CK

Let me guess, that's wrong too. Only you're right.

abhilegend
Or maybe, just maybe, the writer simply thinks they're that strong, amazing, amirite?

qwertyuiop1998
"It is nothing but easy to assume that in any battle with a super-whatever-be it man, girl, boy ..........These super-types, if the need arises, and it sometimes does, are capable of hauling stars from one solar system to another"

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Or maybe, just maybe, the writer simply thinks they're that strong, amazing, amirite?

Lol... they are strong, no ones denying that. The entire debate here is, if you're going to take a statement from that character as factual, you need to accept EVERYTHING. Dont pick and choose. If we are accepting everything from that character, then those robots are faster, stronger, smarter and beyond Superman comprehension which means that Hawkman and Aquaman killed an untold amount of amped Supermans.

Now if we are not taking everything that character say as legit, we can begin our discussion there.

abhilegend
Maybe the writer is lying too? 🤔🤔🤔

carver9
🤦🏿

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... they are strong, no ones denying that. The entire debate here is, if you're going to take a statement from that character as factual, you need to accept EVERYTHING. Dont pick and choose. If we are accepting everything from that character, then those robots are faster, stronger, smarter and beyond Superman comprehension which means that Hawkman and Aquaman killed an untold amount of amped Supermans.

Now if we are not taking everything that character say as legit, we can begin our discussion there.
Yes, and Superman destroyed more than several dozen amped Superman level robots at once. Each stronger than star level strength.

You're right carver, it's an amazing feat.

abhilegend
Amazing feats for Aquaman and Hawkman too. DC showings my boys some love, beastly showing.

carver9
🤣🤣🤣

abhilegend
Well, you said it.

Diesldude

carver9
Diesldude, leave this to abhi. You're terrible at this.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Well, you said it.

Reread our entire discussion, please.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Reread our entire discussion, please.
I did, you're an idiot.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
The same guy who said that, also said these robots are stronger than Superman and faster (and smarter) than Superman.

https://ibb.co/FgP1nzS

But it took 3 to take down Batman, Hawkman were ripping through them with ease, Aquaman took out one and a group of them were taken out with a rannian gun. Do you think these people can take on and kill a gang of beings stronger, faster and smarter than Superman in one hit? Yes or no? You'll probably say no and you know what I'm going to say after that...

https://ibb.co/hchC79L
https://ibb.co/yV87hKn
https://ibb.co/dL6C68s

In comics weaker characters take down stronger characters all the time. Its called fiction inconsistency. What does that have to do with what I said?
Not knowing an unknown being's power level has nothing to do with knowing what the chains did in the past.
Prediction has nothing to do with stating things that already happened.


I can predict the mma fighter A will beat mma fighter B because he's stronger, faster, etc. I can state that mma fighter A lost to mma fighter B last year. Those are two different things Carv
Bottomline : If the writer's intent for a character to be lying then he would make the audience aware of it.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
In comics weaker characters take down stronger characters all the time. Its called fiction inconsistency. What does that have to do with what I said?
Not knowing an unknown being's power level has nothing to do with knowing what the chains did in the past.
Prediction has nothing to do with stating things that already happened.


I can predict the mma fighter A will beat mma fighter B because he's stronger, faster, etc. I can state that mma fighter A lost to mma fighter B last year. Those are two different things Carv
Bottomline : If the writer's intent for a character to be lying then he would make the audience aware of it.

This is an excuse. Again, was his statement there legit or false

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
This is an excuse. Again, was his statement there legit or false

If the writer doesn't reveal someone is lying then they aren't. That's a fact. It's called storytelling.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
If the writer doesn't reveal someone is lying then they aren't. That's a fact. It's called storytelling.

His statements have no credibility. Period. The chains doesn't have any fts. The guy who talked about the chains doesn't have any credibility. No matter how much you try to twist this his statement holds no weight. He didn't predict sh**. He outright said those robots are stronger, faster, smarter and beyond Superman comprehension. He either lied or he didn't lie. If he didn't lie, Superman sucks, if he did lie, then anything from him can not be taking as legit.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
His statements have no credibility. Period. The chains doesn't have any fts. The guy who talked about the chains doesn't have any credibility. No matter how much you try to twist this his statement holds no weight. He didn't predict sh**. He outright said those robots are stronger, faster, smarter and beyond Superman comprehension. He either lied or he didn't lie. If he didn't lie, Superman sucks, if he did lie, then anything from him can not be taking as legit.

Credibility has nothing to do with reporting information that has already happened vs predicting the outcome of a fight. I can predict character A beats character B and it be unreliable. That has no bearing on me reporting past events. The chains HAVE BEEN used to tow stars in the past. This is something that has happened.

So you are telling me that it doesn't matter what the writer intent is, the writer doesn't have absolute control over what he wants to be the case?

StiltmanFTW
Teen Titans appear out of nowhere and sodomize SBP again.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
Credibility has nothing to do with reporting information that has already happened vs predicting the outcome of a fight. I can predict character A beats character B and it be unreliable. That has no bearing on me reporting past events. The chains HAVE BEEN used to tow stars in the past. This is something that has happened.

So you are telling me that it doesn't matter what the writer intent is, the writer doesn't have absolute control over what he wants to be the case?

His credibility was ruined as soon as he lied about the robots. Also, we don't know if the chains happened unless you have on panel proof. If you're going to hold statements as FACTS, Gladiator is able to wrest planets from their orbit and collapse stars with his barehand...

https://imgur.io/GUtEM1G

Move planets...

https://imgur.io/JdmdqjB

Oooorrrrrr, his son said that he has seen Gladiator punch moons to dust and rip black holes apart with his barehand...

https://imgur.io/a/OGfCfcU

These statements piss on the ft for Superman by the way. Also, this is writer intent, lmmfao. The writer wrote all of this. His intention was to mention how strong Gladiator is. Is this the way we debate now?

h1a8

tkitna
I'm just curious. How much force would it take to rip a black hole apart with your bare hands?

carver9
So Gladiator CAN rip black holes in half with his hands? That statement was past tense.

h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
I'm just curious. How much force would it take to rip a black hole apart with your bare hands?

Originally posted by carver9
So Gladiator CAN rip black holes in half with his hands? That statement was past tense.

The feat can't be done with human sized physical hands. A black hole is the size of an atom (possibly smaller). There is no way to even grab something that small to even rip it. The writer had no clue what a black hole is. Maybe he believes the region on space surrounding the black hole (the event horizon) is the actual black hole. If that's the case then that region is made of space, not matter. There is nothing to physically grab.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
The feat can't be done with human sized physical hands. A black hole is the size of an atom (possibly smaller). There is no way to even grab something that small to even rip it. The writer had no clue what a black hole is. Maybe he believes the region on space surrounding the black hole (the event horizon) is the actual black hole. If that's the case then that region is made of space, not matter. There is nothing to physically grab.

Gladiator did it, so it stays. Writer intent.

tkitna

h1a8

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator did it, so it stays. Writer intent.

It's impossible to do physically. There is nothing to grab. A black hole is so small it basically doesn't exist (a singularity). The only thing you will see is the event horizon, which is just a region of space. So Gladiator separating a region of space is unquantifiable.

You can't quantify something that's logically impossible to do.
Grabbing space and separating it iby physical force is logically impossible and not quantifiable by any means.

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
Not logically possible and therefore unquantifiable.

A flying alien tugging planets around with a large chain sounds logically possible though right? laughing out loud

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
Grabbing space and separating it iby physical force is logically impossible and not quantifiable by any means.

Comic characters do it all the time though. How many times has a character punched or ripped through reality? Real world logic and physics dont apply here.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
It's impossible to do physically. There is nothing to grab. A black hole is so small it basically doesn't exist (a singularity). The only thing you will see is the event horizon, which is just a region of space. So Gladiator separating a region of space is unquantifiable.

You can't quantify something that's logically impossible to do.
Grabbing space and separating it iby physical force is logically impossible and not quantifiable by any means.

We are talking about comics. A lot of sh** happens that is impossible. The ft stays. Writers intent.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
We are talking about comics. A lot of sh** happens that is impossible. The ft stays. Writers intent.
Draw a square circle.

It's a difference between scientifically impossible and logically impossible.
We accept scientifically impossible in fiction. But nothing logically impossible can be achieved (not even by God).

Grabbing space is unquantifiable. Therefore it's no feat at all.
If you disagree then please quantify it for us. Give us the amount of force it would take to grab air or space (nothingness) and separate it into two pieces.

h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
Comic characters do it all the time though. How many times has a character punched or ripped through reality? Real world logic and physics dont apply here. They used magic or some sort of power besides physical strength.
Doesn't matter as it would be unquantifiable. Grabbing air (space) and separating it into two pieces can not be quantified in terms of how much force. So it's not a feat at all in which to judge who's stronger.

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
They used magic or some sort of power besides physical strength.
Doesn't matter as it would be unquantifiable. Grabbing air (space) and separating it into two pieces can not be quantified in terms of how much force. So it's not a feat at all in which to judge who's stronger.

The Hulk and Prime have both punched through the fabric of reality, time and space with nothing more than physical strength. Almost every feat in comic books is unquantifiable its just you try to apply real world physics to them and that doesnt work.

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8

It's a difference between scientifically impossible and logically impossible.
We accept scientifically impossible in fiction. But nothing logically impossible can be achieved (not even by God).

Grabbing space is unquantifiable. Therefore it's no feat at all.
If you disagree then please quantify it for us. Give us the amount of force it would take to grab air or space (nothingness) and separate it into two pieces.

laughing Everything in comic books is logically impossible. Do you accept characters that fly and shoot lasers out of their eyes, turn invisible, bodies that ignite to fire, characters that can shrink, a glove with gems that can do anything the wielder wishes, or a character that controls molecules?

Bringing up God? Seriously? The entity that can do anything and is so beyond human comprehension and so mighty that humans cant even handle the mere site of him? Everything he has done is beyond human logic and standards.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
Draw a square circle.

It's a difference between scientifically impossible and logically impossible.
We accept scientifically impossible in fiction. But nothing logically impossible can be achieved (not even by God).

Grabbing space is unquantifiable. Therefore it's no feat at all.
If you disagree then please quantify it for us. Give us the amount of force it would take to grab air or space (nothingness) and separate it into two pieces.

So it's possible for a character to fly and shoot laser beams from his eyes? It's possible for a black hole to open up on earth? It's possible to lift earth weights on earth? It's possible for Lobo to throw a sun on the earth? Again, we are talking about comics. You're either going to accept the statement or accept that you're a picking and choosing hypocrite?

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
So it's possible for a character to fly and shoot laser beams from his eyes? It's possible for a black hole to open up on earth? It's possible to lift earth weights on earth? It's possible for Lobo to throw a sun on the earth? Again, we are talking about comics. You're either going to accept the statement or accept that you're a picking and choosing hypocrite?

Yes those things are scientifically improbable but not logically impossible.

It's not logically impossible to do anything you just named.
In fact it's logically possible to do all those things you named. Just not probable.

Good job ignoring the most important part of my post.
The feat is unquantifiable. If you disagree then kindly quantify the minimum amount of force someone needs to just grab space and separate it into two pieces.

h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
laughing Everything in comic books is logically impossible. Do you accept characters that fly and shoot lasers out of their eyes, turn invisible, bodies that ignite to fire, characters that can shrink, a glove with gems that can do anything the wielder wishes, or a character that controls molecules?

Bringing up God? Seriously? The entity that can do anything and is so beyond human comprehension and so mighty that humans cant even handle the mere site of him? Everything he has done is beyond human logic and standards. No it isn't. 99.99% of all things in comics are logically possible. Just not scientifically probable.

An omnipotent being can make all those things possible. But an omnipotent being cannot make something logically impossible possible.

For example, it's logically impossible to draw a square circle. It's not logically impossible to shoot lasers out of one's eyes.

But all those points are irrelevant.
We only use quantifiable feats to prove someone being stronger, faster, etc.
The feat of grabbing nothing (space with the bare hands) and separating it into two pieces with only strength (no other mechanism) is unquantifiable.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes those things are scientifically improbable but not logically impossible.

It's not logically impossible to do anything you just named.
In fact it's logically possible to do all those things you named. Just not probable.

Good job ignoring the most important part of my post.
The feat is unquantifiable. If you disagree then kindly quantify the minimum amount of force someone needs to just grab space and separate it into two pieces.

I'm ignoring you because you're a troll.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
I'm ignoring you because you're a troll.

You ignoring the statement because it destroys your whole agenda.

I accepted the feats by Gladiator. But the black hole feat is not quantifiable.
The other feats are quantifiable though.

And you clearly are the troll for voting for Marvel characters against DC characters in a spite situation (where one character is better in every way feat wise). The only other poster who did such things was Quanchi112.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
You ignoring the statement because it destroys your whole agenda.

I accepted the feats by Gladiator. But the black hole feat is not quantifiable.
The other feats are quantifiable though.

I'm ignoring your statement because you think comics are normal, you're picking and choosing, and you're stubborn AF. You're not normal, H1. If Superman chain ft is accurate, Gladiator black hole is accurate.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
I'm ignoring your statement because you think comics are normal, you're picking and choosing, and you're stubborn AF. You're not normal, H1. If Superman chain ft is accurate, Gladiator black hole is accurate.

Accurate? Wth are you talking about? That's the wrong term.
We are talking about quantifiable, not whether something can or did happen.
Gladiator DID rip a region of space into two pieces but the feat is not quantifiable by any means. Do you understand?

So again, Gladiator gets his feats (through word of mouth) AND all them are quantifiable EXCEPT the black hole one.

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
No it isn't. 99.99% of all things in comics are logically possible. Just not scientifically probable.

An omnipotent being can make all those things possible. But an omnipotent being cannot make something logically impossible possible.

For example, it's logically impossible to draw a square circle. It's not logically impossible to shoot lasers out of one's eyes.

But all those points are irrelevant.
We only use quantifiable feats to prove someone being stronger, faster, etc.
The feat of grabbing nothing (space with the bare hands) and separating it into two pieces with only strength (no other mechanism) is unquantifiable.

Those things are logically possible? Please explain because this should be entertaining.

So this is logically possible to you? Please explain the logic behind it.
https://cdn.fandomwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/22055639/Juggernaut-punches-a-hole-through-the-dimensions.jpg

Hulk holds a black hole. Explain this one.
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-31d7a54dae87dfaa5d2ce37f0889e1e4-lq

How about throwing a living character into the past. Please indulge us on that one.
https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/superman-throws-titano-through-time.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=750&dpr=1.5

Or how about this last one. Superman pushed the sun. An object made out of gas. Please explain.
https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Superman-pushes-the-sun.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=750&dpr=1.5

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
Accurate? Wth are you talking about? That's the wrong term.
We are talking about quantifiable, not whether something can or did happen.
Gladiator DID rip a region of space into two pieces but the feat is not quantifiable by any means. Do you understand?

So again, Gladiator gets his feats (through word of mouth) AND all them are quantifiable EXCEPT the black hole one.

Quantify this and provide proof, please...

https://ibb.co/f9fnTM3

h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
Those things are logically possible? Please explain because this should be entertaining.

So this is logically possible to you? Please explain the logic behind it.
https://cdn.fandomwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/22055639/Juggernaut-punches-a-hole-through-the-dimensions.jpg

Hulk holds a black hole. Explain this one.
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-31d7a54dae87dfaa5d2ce37f0889e1e4-lq

How about throwing a living character into the past. Please indulge us on that one.
https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/superman-throws-titano-through-time.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=750&dpr=1.5

Or how about this last one. Superman pushed the sun. An object made out of gas. Please explain.
https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Superman-pushes-the-sun.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=750&dpr=1.5

Yup all are logically possible, especially when it comes to magic and esoteric powers.
One feat at a time. So ask me.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Quantify this and provide proof, please...

https://ibb.co/f9fnTM3

I did countless times. I even went to physicists for review.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
I did countless times. I even went to physicists for review.

How did you get the size of the stars and how did you calculate the pressure used from the black hole. Explain, please. Also, how many stars did you put in your calculation?

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
Yup all are logically possible, especially when it comes to magic and esoteric powers.
One feat at a time. So ask me.

So the Hulk can hold black holes and so forth but its unquantifiable when Gladiator does it. Got it.

Tell me how any of those feats are logically possible.

h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
So the Hulk can hold black holes and so forth but its unquantifiable when Gladiator does it. Got it.

Tell me how any of those feats are logically possible. Hulk has never held a black hole. Holding a black hole is quantifiable. What are you talking about?

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
How did you get the size of the stars and how did you calculate the pressure used from the black hole. Explain, please. Also, how many stars did you put in your calculation?
Step1
Distance = 1/2 * acceleration * time ^2
Or
d = 0.5*a*t^2

Solve for a and plug in for d and t.

Step2
F=ma
Where m is the mass of a star and a is the acceleration found in step 1. Plug in m and a to get F.
F will be at least in the millions of stellar masses.

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk has never held a black hole. Holding a black hole is quantifiable. What are you talking about?

I just posted a scan in which he was. Guess you ignore that if you want. Regardless of that, how does Superman push a giant ball of gas?

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
Step1
Distance = 1/2 * acceleration * time ^2
Or
d = 0.5*a*t^2

Solve for a and plug in for d and t.

Step2
F=ma
Where m is the mass of a star and a is the acceleration found in step 1. Plug in m and a to get F.
F will be at least in the millions of stellar masses.

How many stars did it pull, what's the size of the stars. Quantify this for me and show me where you got it from. Thanks.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
How many stars did it pull, what's the size of the stars. Quantify this for me and show me where you got it from. Thanks. A minimum of 1 star. The average mass of a star is the mass of the sun. Or you can just plug in 1 for m to represent 1 solar mass.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
A minimum of 1 star. The average mass of a star is the mass of the sun. Or you can just plug in 1 for m to represent 1 solar mass.

Not in comics. There has been stars the size of someone's hand. How did you find the size of the stars those chains towed?

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Not in comics. There has been stars the size of someone's hand. How did you find the size of the stars those chains towed?
In DC stars are stars. Bullets are bullets. Planets are planets.
The writer said stars as in normal stars.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
In DC stars are stars. Bullets are bullets. Planets are planets.
The writer said stars as in normal stars.

That's not true. There has been small black holes and stars in DC, lol. You don't know what the writer meant, unless ya got proof that you want to post. Scans please.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
That's not true. There has been small black holes and stars in DC, lol. You don't know what the writer meant, unless ya got proof that you want to post. Scans please.

Small stars naturally occurring in DC? Prove it.
Everyone knows what the writer meant idiot.
"You can't break those chains.""They are used to haul phucking stars between galaxies". The point was to prove the chains can't be broken.
Small altered unnatural stars would go against that silly Billy.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
Small stars naturally occurring in DC? Prove it.
Everyone knows what the writer meant idiot.
"You can't break those chains.""They are used to haul phucking stars between galaxies". The point was to prove the chains can't be broken.
Small altered unnatural stars would go against that silly Billy.

Batman was towing small suns around in his gloves. 10 of them. What's the writers intent for this? Also, a solar system was full of small suns, H1.

https://ibb.co/X4XHDqM

You're a troll, H1, a troll that doesn't read comics.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Batman was towing small suns around in his gloves. 10 of them. What's the writers intent for this? Also, a solar system was full of small suns, H1.

https://ibb.co/X4XHDqM

You're a troll, H1, a troll that doesn't read comics.
Trolls ignore evidence. That's what you are doing.
Now rebut what I said that is relevant to the feat.
Originally posted by h1a8

Everyone knows what the writer meant idiot.
"You can't break those chains.""They are used to haul phucking stars between galaxies". The point was to prove the chains can't be broken.
Small altered unnatural stars would go against that silly Billy.

tkitna
Originally posted by carver9
You're a troll, H1, a troll that doesn't read comics.

Honestly, why bother Carv? He's a guy that tries to bring real world logic into an area where it doesnt exist. Its futile to argue with somebody who lives in their own lonely world like that. He will only continue to twist things until they fit his narrative totally ignoring actual on panel feats and intent. Its so much easier to just ignore him and move on. He's not worth the aggravation.

carver9
Originally posted by tkitna
Honestly, why bother Carv? He's a guy that tries to bring real world logic into an area where it doesnt exist. Its futile to argue with somebody who lives in their own lonely world like that. He will only continue to twist things until they fit his narrative totally ignoring actual on panel feats and intent. Its so much easier to just ignore him and move on. He's not worth the aggravation.

I agree. Done with H1

Diesldude

h1a8
Originally posted by tkitna
Honestly, why bother Carv? He's a guy that tries to bring real world logic into an area where it doesnt exist. Its futile to argue with somebody who lives in their own lonely world like that. He will only continue to twist things until they fit his narrative totally ignoring actual on panel feats and intent. Its so much easier to just ignore him and move on. He's not worth the aggravation. So you want to troll too by supporting Carver?
He's clearly trolling the thread by saying that the writer want the chains only to tow miniature stars (something batman can carry) as proof to why they can't be broken. Are you reading his posts? He's trolling the thread. And you are supporting it for bias reasons. Be objective for once. Coward.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
I agree. Done with H1 You say things like that when my last post is hard to refute.

Clearly the writer was trying to make a point to why the chains are extremely durable. Towing miniature stars, something Batman (a human) can lugg around will contradict that point. You are clearly trolling now.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by tkitna
Honestly, why bother Carv? He's a guy that tries to bring real world logic into an area where it doesnt exist. Its futile to argue with somebody who lives in their own lonely world like that. He will only continue to twist things until they fit his narrative totally ignoring actual on panel feats and intent. Its so much easier to just ignore him and move on. He's not worth the aggravation.

And he does the same thing in the Movie Forum.

At best, it means he's a troll taking a lot of pleasure in it.

At worst, he's one of the most autistic people on the Internet as a whole.

h1a8
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And he does the same thing in the Movie Forum.

At best, it means he's a troll taking a lot of pleasure in it.

At worst, he's one of the most autistic people on the Internet as a whole. Have you read the entire exchange before commenting?

Summary, Carv is trying to say the chain feat for Superman doesn't count.

Although the writer states the chain can't be broken because they are used to haul stars between galaxies, Carv assumes these are miniature stars (where Batman can lug around and carry) as to prove the chains cannot be broken.

Yet he gets away with trolling like that only to comment on me. I'm not actually doing any trolling, Carv is.

marcssands14
Prime wins

marcssands14
Bump

MrMind
Why bump spite thread

StiltmanFTW
Yeah. SBP got sodomized by Teen Titans, he doesn't stand a chance here.

MrMind
Good point, even Deathstroke did better

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by tkitna
Honestly, why bother Carv? He's a guy that tries to bring real world logic into an area where it doesnt exist. Its futile to argue with somebody who lives in their own lonely world like that. He will only continue to twist things until they fit his narrative totally ignoring actual on panel feats and intent. Its so much easier to just ignore him and move on. He's not worth the aggravation.

I didn't realise he was known for this. I wouldn't have bothered engaging with him otherwise. He will literally ignore explicit evidence and attempt to gaslight you whilst providing zero evidence for an entire thread.

Thanks for the heads up thumb up

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I didn't realise he was known for this. I wouldn't have bothered engaging with him otherwise. He will literally ignore explicit evidence and attempt to gaslight you whilst providing zero evidence for an entire thread.

Thanks for the heads up thumb up

You've been posting here for 18 years, just like h1.

Either you're suffering from Alzheimer's disease or got abducted by aliens and replaced by a GalacticRobot, because h1's antics are common knowledge on KMC.

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You've been posting here for 18 years, just like h1.

Either you're suffering from Alzheimer's disease or got abducted by aliens and replaced by a GalacticRobot, because h1's antics are common knowledge on KMC.

laughing I keep having breaks whenever life gets in the way

I honestly don't remember him from before. But now I'll never forget him lol

StiltmanFTW
No. Forget him.

Use your telepathic powers on yourself and forget him like Xavier forgot about Matthew Malloy.

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