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Big G is fed

who wins

And how did Imperiex get beat?

Originally posted by Thinkerer
And how did Imperiex get beat? Superman merged with Kismet, the avatar/m-body of the multiverse.

Another example of the metaverse aligning to make Superman always win like Manhattan talked about in Doomsday Clock.

Originally posted by Thinkerer
And how did Imperiex get beat?

superman merging with dc version of eternity

Originally posted by Thinkerer
And how did Imperiex get beat?

Oof we don't want to do that.

A fully fed G, amped on multiple magic planets that turbocharged him, was getting hurt by Skuttlebutt

Galactus stomps tbh.

Based on what feats?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Based on what feats?

marvel

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Based on what feats?

Based on Imperiex not doing sh** and is primarily a verbiage ft character.

Originally posted by carver9
Based on Imperiex not doing sh** and is primarily a verbiage ft character. He casually atomized HP DD.
Something that was considered impossible (only Entropy could end DD). Galactus was injured by Skuttlebutt.

Originally posted by carver9
Based on Imperiex not doing sh** and is primarily a verbiage ft character.

his body contains a big bang so big it is said to have expanded 60 trillion light years in half a second which is more than 500 times greater than our real observable universe

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11133/111338720/8294456-rco019_1469344116.jpg

but you never read any comics so....

Originally posted by MrMind
his body contains a big bang so big it is said to have expanded 60 trillion light years in half a second which is more than 500 times greater than our real observable universe

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11133/111338720/8294456-rco019_1469344116.jpg

but you never read any comics so....

Is this why you think he can beat Galactus?

Originally posted by carver9
Based on Imperiex not doing sh** and is primarily a verbiage ft character.

So not based on any of Galactus' own feats, gotcha.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So not based on any of Galactus' own feats, gotcha.

High end, cosmic entity character vs someone who hasn't done a thing. H1 is even desperate at finding fts. He's mentioning Doomsday, lmao.

Originally posted by carver9
High end, cosmic entity character vs someone who hasn't done a thing. H1 is even desperate at finding fts. He's mentioning Doomsday, lmao.

So I'm still asking based on what feats this fed G has done that has led you to give him the win, and you..... respond with throwing shade at Imp, rather than building up G? Ok.

Anyway, remember that the probes are each a small part of Imperiex. He created them from himself. They're him. And each probe was handing multiple teams their asses, including herald level teams. That's like Big G creating countless (not just one or two, but dozens, hundreds, thousands) of heralds, each capable of destroying teams of heralds, from his own body.

He was also fighting across time, not just in 2001. Nor would I say he hasn't done a thing....I'm pretty sure (been a while now) that he was an infinite universe that overlaid the DCU. Or something.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So I'm still asking based on what feats this fed G has done that has led you to give him the win, and you..... respond with throwing shade at Imp, rather than building up G? Ok.

Anyway, remember that the probes are each a small part of Imperiex. He created them from himself. They're him. And each probe was handing multiple teams their asses, including herald level teams. That's like Big G creating countless (not just one or two, but dozens, hundreds, thousands) of heralds, each capable of destroying teams of heralds, from his own body.

He was also fighting across time, not just in 2001. Nor would I say he hasn't done a thing....I'm pretty sure (been a while now) that he was an infinite universe that overlaid the DCU. Or something.

So his Probes has fts, not Imperiex himself? Has anyone defeated these Probes, any Herald or trans tier characters? There's a certain character that has also fought teams, heck teams that had a skyfather on it. I wonder why you don't give him/her this same type of recognition you're giving the Probes. Anyways, what has Imperiex done? Galactus has defeated the In Betweener, Celestials, etc...

Originally posted by carver9
So his Probes has fts, not Imperiex himself? Has anyone defeated these Probes, any Herald or trans tier characters? There's a certain character that has also fought teams, heck teams that had a skyfather on it. I wonder why you don't give him/her this same type of recognition you're giving the Probes. Anyways, what has Imperiex done? Galactus has defeated the In Betweener, Celestials, etc...
But that's the thing.

They're him. They literally spell it out in the comic. He's not like, a physical person, he's an energy construct in a shell. The probes were each him, split into little bitty pieces.

It's like Dupli-Kate in Invincible, or Metamorpho or Plastic Man creating little dupes of himself that aren't sentient in their own right - it's literally their own bodies,but split off.

And he can create entire armies, each member who can fight off teams. Not just one or two characters. Entire armies.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But that's the thing.

They're him. They literally spell it out in the comic. He's not like, a physical person, he's an energy construct in a shell. The probes were each him, split into little bitty pieces.

It's like Dupli-Kate in Invincible, or Metamorpho or Plastic Man creating little dupes of himself that aren't sentient in their own right - it's literally their own bodies,but split off.

And he can create entire armies, each member who can fight off teams. Not just one or two characters. Entire armies.

And they got destroyed by Herald tier characters. You have to hold that as well. Yes, they have solid showings but we've seen them get merked by Heralds. If you want to give Imperiex their fts, you need to give him all of them.

If the Probes is all you got, then Galactus outright destroys here.

Are you talking about the army of Probes that Doomsday, Superman, and even Hippolyta destroyed solo?

https://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/B21-All-OutWar-ActionComics78111.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/B21-All-OutWar-ActionComics78114.jpg
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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/B21-All-OutWar-ActionComics78117.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/JLA-OurWorldsAtWarpg11.jpg
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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/JLA-OurWorldsAtWarpg27.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/JLA-OurWorldsAtWarpg28.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/JLA-OurWorldsAtWarpg29.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/WonderWomanv2172pg17.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/WonderWomanv2172pg18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/YoungJustice-OWAW-37.jpg

Didn't even include Zod destroying a group of them.

those pics are smaller than your future

Lmao... expand them.

Originally posted by carver9
Lmao... expand them.

Could Galactus disintegrate HP DD with a casual blast? Could he do it to someone less durable (DS, Thor, Silver Surfer, etc)?

Skittlebutt <<<<<< blast that disintegrates HP DD.

Originally posted by h1a8
Could Galactus disintegrate HP DD with a casual blast? Could he do it to someone less durable (DS, Thor, Silver Surfer, etc)?

Skittlebutt <<<<<< blast that disintegrates HP DD.

Was that HP Doomsday? And how much power does it take to disintegrate Doomsday?

Example, Galactus vs Tyrant fight was destroying Galaxies...

https://imgur.io/a/ST4bG

Galactus vs Scrier was destroying time, reality and was even threatening the entire universe...

https://imgur.io/a/LIYXE

So what kind of power do you presume it'll take to melt Doomsday and are you saying Galactus can't do it?

Here, he kills a Celestial in one hit. Is Doomsday above a Celestial?

https://imgur.io/PDZTooW

the scrier and tyrant fights you posted were all statements from narration

imperiex has statements of destroying galaxies and threatening universe exactly like that, but you said imperiex is verbiage ft character that hasn't done shit

do you not see your own retardation carver?

Originally posted by MrMind
the scrier and tyrant fights you posted were all statements from narration

imperiex has statements of destroying galaxies and threatening universe exactly like that, but you said imperiex is verbiage ft character that hasn't done shit

do you not see your own retardation carver?

These are actual fights and on panel showings of this happening. We see absolutely NOTHING with Imperiex. N.O.T.H.I.N.G.

If he actually fought someone worth noting and did something, it would be ok but he has done nothing. The only display of power we have of him is him exploding from the inside out destroying a Universe. If that's all it takes to beat Galactus, then we might as well say Monarch stomps big G as well.

Originally posted by carver9
These are actual fights and on panel showings of this happening. We see absolutely NOTHING with Imperiex. N.O.T.H.I.N.G.

If he actually fought someone worth noting and did something, it would be ok but he has done nothing. The only display of power we have of him is him exploding from the inside out destroying a Universe. If that's all it takes to beat Galactus, then we might as well say Monarch stomps big G as well.

the problem with you isn't that you are constantly wrong

the problem is the arrogance and confidence that came with the stupidity.

we see no galaxies shown to be destroyed on panel, thanos SAID IT
we see no universe destroyed on panel, nova SAID IT

were they writer's intention for those two battles to end universe and destroy galaxies, yes. but it was still statement

just like imperiex, Mongul SAID imperiex destroyed galaxies, no different than thanos SAID Galactus and Tyrant destroyed galaxies.
https://imgur.com/a/uLflg4v

do you understand now?

here is imperiex mentioned by the writer in narration being the destroyer of galaxies and threat to the universe. it's called narrative captions .
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_super/11133/111338720/8291704-jvjmprv.jpeg

now move back to characters statements
again confirmed by william magnus, imperiex destroyed galaxies
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_super/11133/111338720/8294390-5762011-galxies.jpg

adam strange confirmed again imperiex destroyed another galaxy
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11133/111338720/7524693-postcrisistrillion1.png


these are all characters statements do you understand?

galactus never destroyed a universe ON PANEL, imperiex has

and this is what happened ON PANEL, universe being destroyed and recreated by imperiex actually shown on comic panel. not a statement made by narration or characters,

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11127/111276547/5761776-1.jpg
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11127/111276547/5761777-2.jpg
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11127/111276547/5761778-3.jpg
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11127/111276547/5761778-3.jpg

do you understand the difference between

1.character statements

2.narrative captions

3. and what actually shown on panel

comic book 101, after 19 years it's time that you at least learn something

Originally posted by carver9
https://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/B21-All-OutWar-ActionComics78111.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/B21-All-OutWar-ActionComics78114.jpg
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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/B21-All-OutWar-ActionComics78117.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/JLA-OurWorldsAtWarpg11.jpg
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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/WonderWomanv2172pg17.jpg
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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/YoungJustice-OWAW-37.jpg

Didn't even include Zod destroying a group of them.

So you're saying they're below herald level, yes? Good to know.

But again- these are only a part of him, correct? And Doomsday, Superman, Hippolyta, even Zod didn't actually destroy the part of Imperiex Prime that was in the shells, correct?

Put it this way, the probes that were destroyed didn't actually harm Imperiex Prime. The energy that was in them, the actual part of Imperiex Prime, just went back and he made a new probe from it. Cracking their shells actually did nothing.

Re-read the storyline.

Originally posted by MrMind
the problem with you isn't that you are constantly wrong

the problem is the arrogance and confidence that came with the stupidity.

we see no galaxies shown to be destroyed on panel, thanos SAID IT
we see no universe destroyed on panel, nova SAID IT

were they writer's intention for those two battles to end universe and destroy galaxies, yes. but it was still statement

just like imperiex, Mongul SAID imperiex destroyed galaxies, no different than thanos SAID Galactus and Tyrant destroyed galaxies.
https://imgur.com/a/uLflg4v

do you understand now?

here is imperiex mentioned by the writer in narration being the destroyer of galaxies and threat to the universe. it's called narrative captions .
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_super/11133/111338720/8291704-jvjmprv.jpeg

now move back to characters statements
again confirmed by william magnus, imperiex destroyed galaxies
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_super/11133/111338720/8294390-5762011-galxies.jpg

adam strange confirmed again imperiex destroyed another galaxy
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11133/111338720/7524693-postcrisistrillion1.png


these are all characters statements do you understand?

galactus never destroyed a universe ON PANEL, imperiex has

and this is what happened ON PANEL, universe being destroyed and recreated by imperiex actually shown on comic panel. not a statement made by narration or characters,

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11127/111276547/5761776-1.jpg
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11127/111276547/5761777-2.jpg
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11127/111276547/5761778-3.jpg
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11127/111276547/5761778-3.jpg


No one said he was weak, lol, I said he doesn't have any fts besides statements and what you go and post, statements, off panel sh**. How does he beat Galactus?

Also, why you're at it, how did he destroy the Galaxies and Universes? Iirc, a Probe (which is part of him) was building a device to destroy earth solar system. Is that how Imperiex did it? Show me?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you're saying they're below herald level, yes? Good to know.

But again- these are only a part of him, correct? And Doomsday, Superman, Hippolyta, even Zod didn't actually destroy the part of Imperiex Prime that was in the shells, correct?

Put it this way, the probes that were destroyed didn't actually harm Imperiex Prime. The energy that was in them, the actual part of Imperiex Prime, just went back and he made a new probe from it. Cracking their shells actually did nothing.

Re-read the storyline.

Nope, not what I'm saying. Heralds can beat Heralds. Doesn't necessarily put them below that tier.

They destroyed the Probes, casually, so I'm trying to figure out where you're going here. Like I said before, yes, the Probes has some solid showings, but when they fight upper tier Heralds, that's when we get a good idea where their power lies.

Ok, yes, they got their shells cracked, I agree. The power went back to Imperiex, I agree. What is your point? Are you saying he will just use Probes to beat Galactus?

Originally posted by carver9
Nope, not what I'm saying. Heralds can beat Heralds. Doesn't necessarily put them below that tier.

They destroyed the Probes, casually, so I'm trying to figure out where you're going here. Like I said before, yes, the Probes has some solid showings, but when they fight upper tier Heralds, that's when we get a good idea where their power lies.

Ok, yes, they got their shells cracked, I agree. The power went back to Imperiex, I agree. What is your point? Are you saying he will just use Probes to beat Galactus?

I'm saying the heralds cracking their shells....means nothing in terms of defeating Imperiex. It literally doesn't hurt him, at all.

And at the same time, him defeating teams of heralds shows his power. Remember, he was literally pumping them out with no strain shown, simultaneously across all the different timelines, in the past, in the future, in the present, all of it. Multiple probes, multiple timelines.

Imagine if 1% of his power was in a probe, and that probe was defeating the JLA. That's a lowball, because he had more than 100 probes. That's what I'm getting at.

In short, any wins his probes have is a valid showing for his power; any defeat his probes have doesn't count as a showing of his weakness.

Originally posted by carver9
No one said he was weak, lol, I said he doesn't have any fts besides statements and what you go and post, statements, off panel sh**. How does he beat Galactus?

Also, why you're at it, how did he destroy the Galaxies and Universes? Iirc, a Probe (which is part of him) was building a device to destroy earth solar system. Is that how Imperiex did it? Show me?

Yes, he built the Hollowers to destroy the solar system etc...what's your point? I think I know what you're trying to get at, and I think I have the reasoning ready, but let's see.

Originally posted by carver9
https://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/B21-All-OutWar-ActionComics78111.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/B21-All-OutWar-ActionComics78114.jpg
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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/B21-All-OutWar-ActionComics78117.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/JLA-OurWorldsAtWarpg11.jpg
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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/WonderWomanv2172pg17.jpg
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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/YoungJustice-OWAW-37.jpg

Didn't even include Zod destroying a group of them.

You steal scans from Bran and don't give him any credit?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=17346706&highlight=carver+gary+nine#post17346706

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You steal scans from Bran and don't give him any credit?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=17346706&highlight=carver+gary+nine#post17346706

I couldn't quote his post since the thread was closed. He gave these links to me and I saved each and every last one of them.

Originally posted by carver9
No one said he was weak, lol, I said he doesn't have any fts besides statements and what you go and post, statements, off panel sh**. How does he beat Galactus?

Also, why you're at it, how did he destroy the Galaxies and Universes? Iirc, a Probe (which is part of him) was building a device to destroy earth solar system. Is that how Imperiex did it? Show me?

motherfuker do you have shorter memory than baboons? you are the one who started mentioning galactus threatening universe and destroying galaxies with statements, off panel shit.

sometimes i think you are just trolling, because nobody can be this stupid

https://media.tenor.com/UtC62ENB49YAAAAC/michael-scott-why-are-you-the-way-you-are.gif


Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You steal scans from Bran and don't give him any credit?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=17346706&highlight=carver+gary+nine#post17346706

he stole scans that's useless from photobucket, ain't nobody trying to enlarge those micropenis scans

Imperiex-Prime wins, he destroyed the prior dcu and recreated it, went to sleep and then woke up and did it again, Galactus is not anywhere on his level at all.

Originally posted by MrMind
motherfuker do you have shorter memory than baboons? you are the one who started mentioning galactus threatening universe and destroying galaxies with statements, off panel shit.

sometimes i think you are just trolling, because nobody can be this stupid

https://media.tenor.com/UtC62ENB49YAAAAC/michael-scott-why-are-you-the-way-you-are.gif




he stole scans that's useless from photobucket, ain't nobody trying to enlarge those micropenis scans

Alright, so let's gathered what you've shown me from Imperiex Prime. You've posted statements saying he destroyed Galaxies and a Universe and then you posted a scene of him destroying a Universe afterwards.

I then mention that he still hasn't done much to beat Galactus who actually has combat showings against upper tier beings, but that isn't nothing to you but statements? So, we have Galactus who has defeated cosmics vs a being who has ONE SHOWING with the rest being statements. You keep mentioning Galactus having nothing but statements when that isn't the case. The purpose of my scans were not only to show his raw power, but to show he's fought upper tier beings. So I ask again, how is Imperiex beating Galactus? Blowing himself up to destroy a Universe?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm saying the heralds cracking their shells....means nothing in terms of defeating Imperiex. It literally doesn't hurt him, at all.

And at the same time, him defeating teams of heralds shows his power. Remember, he was literally pumping them out with no strain shown, simultaneously across all the different timelines, in the past, in the future, in the present, all of it. Multiple probes, multiple timelines.

Imagine if 1% of his power was in a probe, and that probe was defeating the JLA. That's a lowball, because he had more than 100 probes. That's what I'm getting at.

In short, any wins his probes have is a valid showing for his power; any defeat his probes have doesn't count as a showing of his weakness.



Yes, he built the Hollowers to destroy the solar system etc...what's your point? I think I know what you're trying to get at, and I think I have the reasoning ready, but let's see.

How much power is Imperiex giving to each of his Probes? He could be giving each Probe 10% of his power and replenishing it each time he's passing it to a new Probe, but I want to see your answer to this.

Originally posted by carver9
Alright, so let's gathered what you've shown me from Imperiex Prime. You've posted statements saying he destroyed Galaxies and a Universe and then you posted a scene of him destroying a Universe afterwards.

I then mention that he still hasn't done much to beat Galactus who actually has combat showings against upper tier beings, but that isn't nothing to you but statements? So, we have Galactus who has defeated cosmics vs a being who has ONE SHOWING with the rest being statements. You keep mentioning Galactus having nothing but statements when that isn't the case. The purpose of my scans were not only to show his raw power, but to show he's fought upper tier beings. So I ask again, how is Imperiex beating Galactus? Blowing himself up to destroy a Universe?

Isn't destroying universes >>> fighting cosmic beings?
Why are you moving the goal posts?
I already stated he casually disintegrated HP DD.
HP DD is more durable than Superman, Thor, Hulk, Silver Surfer, etc.
Galactus has never disintegrated a high Herald or above being.
Then you responded by Galactus was destroying galaxies. (as if that is more than casually disintegrating HP DD).
Then you were countered by Imperiex destroyed universes
Then you changed the goalposts to combat showings.
But that swings back at casually disintegrating HP DD.

So by proxy of combat showings and other showings he is superior to Galactus.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm saying the heralds cracking their shells....means nothing in terms of defeating Imperiex. It literally doesn't hurt him, at all.

And at the same time, him defeating teams of heralds shows his power. Remember, he was literally pumping them out with no strain shown, simultaneously across all the different timelines, in the past, in the future, in the present, all of it. Multiple probes, multiple timelines.

Imagine if 1% of his power was in a probe, and that probe was defeating the JLA. That's a lowball, because he had more than 100 probes. That's what I'm getting at.

In short, any wins his probes have is a valid showing for his power; any defeat his probes have doesn't count as a showing of his weakness.



Yes, he built the Hollowers to destroy the solar system etc...what's your point? I think I know what you're trying to get at, and I think I have the reasoning ready, but let's see.

That's the thing, we don't know the percentage of power he poured into each probe and we also do not know how Imperiex powers work. He could've put 10% of his power in each Probe and gained that power back via some other means, nigh instantly. It was also never stated if the Probes were all at the same power levels.

Originally posted by h1a8
Isn't destroying universes >>> fighting cosmic beings?
Why are you moving the goal posts?
I already stated he casually disintegrated HP DD.
HP DD is more durable than Superman, Thor, Hulk, Silver Surfer, etc.
Galactus has never disintegrated a high Herald or above being.
Then you responded by Galactus was destroying galaxies. (as if that is more than casually disintegrating HP DD).
Then you were countered by Imperiex destroyed universes
Then you changed the goalposts to combat showings.
But that swings back at casually disintegrating HP DD.

So by proxy of combat showings and other showings he is superior to Galactus.

Why is Doomsday more durable than all of those character?

Originally posted by carver9
Alright, so let's gathered what you've shown me from Imperiex Prime. You've posted statements saying he destroyed Galaxies and a Universe and then you posted a scene of him destroying a Universe afterwards.

I then mention that he still hasn't done much to beat Galactus who actually has combat showings against upper tier beings, but that isn't nothing to you but statements? So, we have Galactus who has defeated cosmics vs a being who has ONE SHOWING with the rest being statements. You keep mentioning Galactus having nothing but statements when that isn't the case. The purpose of my scans were not only to show his raw power, but to show he's fought upper tier beings. So I ask again, how is Imperiex beating Galactus? Blowing himself up to destroy a Universe?

glad you concede on your own mistakes regarding statement and actual visual showing

I have no stake on this fight, just showing your hypocrisy.

Originally posted by carver9
That's the thing, we don't know the percentage of power he poured into each probe and we also do not know how Imperiex powers work. He could've put 10% of his power in each Probe and gained that power back via some other means, nigh instantly. It was also never stated if the Probes were all at the same power levels.

So we agree cracking the probe shells means nothing for Imperiex Prime as it's not hurting him in any way?

We know it's less than 10%, because YOU said Doomsday and Superman and Hippolyta were destroying 'armies' of them. An army is NOT 10 (unless you want to backtrack on your statement, lmao)?

And what was your point about him building a machine for the solar system?

Originally posted by carver9
Why is Doomsday more durable than all of those character? Superman punches him with all his might and it does nothing. Entire JL blasts a weaker version of him for a long time and it does nothing. MM punches him with all his might and it does nothing. DS blasts him with the OB at full power and it does nothing.
Same beams which at half power disintegrated missiles that Superman couldn't put a scratch on using all his might.
In other words, DD >>>Full powered OB >>>>> Half powered OB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superman's full force.


Question : Do you honestly believe that Galactus can disintegrate Thor, Silver Surfer, Superman, Hulk
With a very casual blast?

Originally posted by MrMind
glad you concede on your own mistakes regarding statement and actual visual showing

I have no stake on this fight, just showing your hypocrisy.

He went from combat showings (which I have him) to Galactus destroying galaxies (not shown) as being greater than the combat showings I gave, back to combat showings when he was shown Imperiex destroying universes. Lmao

Originally posted by carver9
Was that HP Doomsday? And how much power does it take to disintegrate Doomsday?

Yes it was.

At the end of H/P, they BFRd him to the end of time.

Brainiac saved him just before he died, and he was defeated by trapping him in four JLA transporters so he couldn't materialize.

Note he hasn't died yet.

Then Task Force X with Steel broke him out and set him against Imperiex.

So yeah, same Doomsday that was fighting Darkseid. Some will call it an avatar, I let you decide which it is. Then he casually vapourised him in one shot.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman punches him with all his might and it does nothing. Entire JL blasts a weaker version of him for a long time and it does nothing. MM punches him with all his might and it does nothing. DS blasts him with the OB at full power and it does nothing.
Same beams which at half power disintegrated missiles that Superman couldn't put a scratch on using all his might.
In other words, DD >>>Full powered OB >>>>> Half powered OB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superman's full force.


Question : Do you honestly believe that Galactus can disintegrate Thor, Silver Surfer, Superman, Hulk
With a very casual blast?

Lmmfao... these fts are sh**. Especially considering the portrayal of these characters in the comic. You have to be trolling. Superman, Hulk, and Thor has far better fts. You've even admitted characters power levels are different per each story.

Why don't you think Galactus can disintegrate any of these characters? Question, are the fts you've named superior than surviving in the heart of a black hole?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes it was.

At the end of H/P, they BFRd him to the end of time.

Brainiac saved him just before he died, and he was defeated by trapping him in four JLA transporters so he couldn't materialize.

Note he hasn't died yet.

Then Task Force X with Steel broke him out and set him against Imperiex.

So yeah, same Doomsday that was fighting Darkseid. Some will call it an avatar, I let you decide which it is. Then he casually vapourised him in one shot.

What's Doomsday beat durability ft?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The probes were each him, split into little bitty pieces.

Reminds me of the shake machine adventure...

Weak point? Where was this said? Also, one hitting them IS casual.

Want a shake, carver?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So we agree cracking the probe shells means nothing for Imperiex Prime as it's not hurting him in any way?

We know it's less than 10%, because YOU said Doomsday and Superman and Hippolyta were destroying 'armies' of them. An army is NOT 10 (unless you want to backtrack on your statement, lmao)?

And what was your point about him building a machine for the solar system?

Means that whatever character did it>the Probes. Bypassed their durability. It means nothing to Imperiex, though.

Thought durability doesn't dictate power iyo. So Superman etc, destroying them doesn't take away from the power Imperiex gave them, right?

I brought up the machine because we have no indication "in previous settings" on how Imperiex destroyed Galaxies, etc...

I'll take that as a yes

Originally posted by carver9
Lmmfao... these fts are sh**. Especially considering the portrayal of these characters in the comic. You have to be trolling. Superman, Hulk, and Thor has far better fts. You've even admitted characters power levels are different per each story.

Why don't you think Galactus can disintegrate any of these characters? Question, are the fts you've named superior than surviving in the heart of a black hole?
Vaporizing HP DD with a casual blast is a shitty feat? Now you are trolling, especially if you are claiming Superman and Thor have better durability than HP DD.

No I don't think Galactus can. So Cool. So show me feats of Galactus blasting a high Herald to Trans level being and vaporizing them (casually). If he can do so then he should have done it once.

Imperiex did it, now you have to provide feats of blasts against DD level beings for Galactus.

And don't go back to the Galactus destroyed galaxies because we have you trumped there too.

Originally posted by carver9
What's Doomsday beat durability ft?

The million nuke blast, or maybe the Omega Beams? Or maybe the explosion that tore a hole in space (since we all seem to be loving this collateral damage = power argument atm) when he was weaker..
Originally posted by carver9
Means that whatever character did it>the Probes. Bypassed their durability. It means nothing to Imperiex, though.

Thought durability doesn't dictate power iyo. So Superman etc, destroying them doesn't take away from the power Imperiex gave them, right?

I brought up the machine because we have no indication "in previous settings" on how Imperiex destroyed Galaxies, etc...

You misunderstood me.

I said that beating them meant nothing to Imperiex Prime himself, as the energy just went back to him, and he made a new probe from every one that was destroyed:
https://i.postimg.cc/J0k9Tzjq/s1Zz95J.jpg

Note that he can create an 'unlimited' supply of soldiers. That's a lot more than 100, right?

Also, this X% of Imperiex Prime is enough to kill an amped Diana:
https://imgur.com/a/QySG3Mv


But at the same time, these probes beating characters is testament to his power. It's not 'in my opinion' - it's clearly shown that the probes are just parts of Imperiex Prime, stuffed into energy containment shells:

https://i.postimg.cc/0jPp4twB/RCO022-w-1495931883.jpg
(you asked how much of Imperiex Prime was in each probe; considering he can churn out 'countless' numbers of them, that's a LOT.

And proof they're for energy containment:
https://i.postimg.cc/GmhXtp95/RCO013-1574054722.jpg

Zod destroying a number of them (I thought I schooled you on how powerful this Zod was a few years ago?) or Hippolyta, or Black Lightning, or Superman/Doomsday, means nothing - imagine fighting an energy being inside a containment suit, and celebrating that you've cracked/broken the suit rather than actually destroying the energy.

By-the-by, Zod was pretty high-end. Imagine a Marvel villain keeping Beta-Ray-Bill chained up in his dungeon and beating him every day, just for the fun of it to see how it feels to beat the crap out of Thor, despite BRB fighting back and eventually becoming so mentally scarred he's crying...people would be proclaiming him to be Skyfather tier.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Isn't it funny how Carver suddenly 'finds it' directly after I post it?

Anyway. Zod was Doomsday level:
https://i.postimg.cc/XNGgtZqk/RCO020-1469651699.jpg

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https://i.postimg.cc/rsrC4H3P/RCO022-1469651699-1.jpg

And Doomsday was shredding those probes alongside Superman. Zod was perfectly capable of killing Superman - so not sure why Carv's trumpeting him like some sort of low showing lol.

He was literally keeping Bizarro as a punchbag:
https://i.postimg.cc/50wkd6N0/RCO013-1469424974.jpg
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https://i.postimg.cc/5ybKxb6m/RCO012-1469424974.jpg

Russian Zod was pretty high end.

Bump.

Originally posted by h1a8
Isn't destroying universes >>> fighting cosmic beings?
Why are you moving the goal posts?
I already stated he casually disintegrated HP DD.
HP DD is more durable than Superman, Thor, Hulk, Silver Surfer, etc.
Galactus has never disintegrated a high Herald or above being.
Then you responded by Galactus was destroying galaxies. (as if that is more than casually disintegrating HP DD).
Then you were countered by Imperiex destroyed universes
Then you changed the goalposts to combat showings.
But that swings back at casually disintegrating HP DD.

So by proxy of combat showings and other showings he is superior to Galactus.

The Hulk has variable durability that increases with his strength. The same force that it would take to destroy a solar system would likely destroy Doomsday as well.

Imperiex stomps.