Achilles vs Perseus

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Thinkerer
Achilles (Troy)

vs

Perseus (Clash of the Titans)

Who wins?

riv6672
Achilles.

RJ 2.0
LOL no. Perseus has far more impressive screen feats. He would win this fight mid difficulty.

riv6672
Agree to disagree. thumb up

RJ 2.0
Originally posted by riv6672
Agree to disagree. thumb up

That's it? "Achilles wins just cuz?"

LOL, no. Perseus took on and defeated the god of war, Ares. He is faster, stronger, and has a much higher damage soak than Achilles. Ffs he will swallowed by a used scorpion, and cut his way out of his guts with his sword.

riv6672
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
That's it?

Originally posted by riv6672
thumb up

Robtard
Achilles is the better fighter, but Perseus is superhuman to the point that I am not sure Achilles would be able to hurt him much.

h1a8
I haven't seen the movie with Perseus. Is he Hella resistant to bladed weapons and spears?

John Murdoch
Troy is a far better movie, and Achilles has one of my favorite one-shot battles in movie history, but...

Perseus stomps. As stated here, his stats are superhuman and guarantee a win unless he just stands there and lets Achilles attack him.

Thinking of Clash of the Titans, what a classic example of a mythological action good bad fun flick? Great cast going from set to set and from CGI action sequence to CGI action sequence, hamming it up all over the place, solid direction from Louis Letterier. The memes with Liam Neeson saying, "Release the Kraken!" are worth the price of admission alone.

h1a8
Again is Perseus resistant to bladed weapons. If say he were stabbed in the neck by a sword then what will happen? The sword will bend, brake, penetrate, etc?

NemeBro
Perseus' reactive spacetime shield would take the blade and automatically open a rift in reality behind Achilles' neck where his own blade would protrude from, stabbing him in his own neck.

h1a8
Originally posted by NemeBro
Perseus' reactive spacetime shield would take the blade and automatically open a rift in reality behind Achilles' neck where his own blade would protrude from, stabbing him in his own neck.

Well that wouldn't be a fair fight now would it?
Spite thread then.
In the spirit of good debate.
We have Achilles as the better fighter and Perseus as better physical stats.
That's makes a good fight. Let's just keep it at that.
Both have swords or non spite weapons.
Otherwise what's the point?

Robtard
Originally posted by h1a8
I haven't seen the movie with Perseus. Is he Hella resistant to bladed weapons and spears?

Maybe you should watch Clash and Wrath of the Titans then.

NemeBro
Yeah, then you'd know that Achilles has no chance of beating a temporal anomaly like Perseus who is also described as being a "sentient dimension hopping black hole" by Zeus himself.

h1a8
Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah, then you'd know that Achilles has no chance of beating a temporal anomaly like Perseus who is also described as being a "sentient dimension hopping black hole" by Zeus himself. If he has an autoshield that blocks attacks as a sentient being then why not inform the OP of the spite? He'll I can beat Achilles in this situation.

If someone says Superman vs Daredevil. You just going to say Superman wins? That's pretty dumb

Imo, the OP wants Perseus to fight without such hax weaponry.
In other words, I believe you are wrong here.

h1a8
Originally posted by Robtard
Maybe you should watch Clash and Wrath of the Titans then. I actually watched the 1st movie when it came out in theaters. But that is the only time I saw it. I remember nothing except that Perseus WASN'T RESISTANT TO CUTTING WEAPONS. I basically acted dumb and pretended to not know that.

Thinkerer
Basic weaponry indeed. It's true that Perseus beats monsters and characters above his paygrade, but mostly due to plot convenience, not so much due to true superhuman stats. He's still vulnerable to regular weapons, so fighting someone as skilled as Achilles who is not doomed to lose for plot reasons, shouldnt make this all too onesided.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by h1a8
I actually watched the 1st movie when it came out in theaters. But that is the only time I saw it. I remember nothing except that Perseus WASN'T RESISTANT TO CUTTING WEAPONS. I basically acted dumb and pretended to not know that.

Your acting is top-notch

RJ 2.0
Originally posted by h1a8
Again is Perseus resistant to bladed weapons. If say he were stabbed in the neck by a sword then what will happen? The sword will bend, brake, penetrate, etc? this works both ways. Add on the fact that Perseus was faster than achilles, and he had far superior weaponry and armor, and he was the literal son of zeus, and........ Well, I'm sure you took math in school. Perseus obliterates.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by h1a8
If he has an autoshield that blocks attacks as a sentient being then why not inform the OP of the spite? He'll I can beat Achilles in this situation.

If someone says Superman vs Daredevil. You just going to say Superman wins? That's pretty dumb

Imo, the OP wants Perseus to fight without such hax weaponry.
In other words, I believe you are wrong here.

Wise words were once said:

Originally posted by h1a8
You shouldn't participate in debates if you don't know basic information about the characters.

h1a8
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wise words were once said:

Wouldn't participate mean argue for a side?
Well that's what I meant. Wasn't it obvious?

h1a8
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
this works both ways. Add on the fact that Perseus was faster than achilles, and he had far superior weaponry and armor, and he was the literal son of zeus, and........ Well, I'm sure you took math in school. Perseus obliterates.

I don't care who wins. He's not faster though.
OP gave them similar weaponry to make this a good fight.
Achilles still has the fighting skill advantage. So still a good debate.

riv6672

Robtard
Originally posted by h1a8
I actually watched the 1st movie when it came out in theaters. But that is the only time I saw it. I remember nothing except that Perseus WASN'T RESISTANT TO CUTTING WEAPONS. I basically acted dumb and pretended to not know that.

Are you sure it's an act?

h1a8
Originally posted by Robtard
Are you sure it's an act?

Well what do you think? I admitted to seeing Clash but not Wrath. Of course I watched the 1981 version as a child many times.

People say Perseus wins because he is superhuman. Yet these two are fighting with one shot weapons. So superhuman doesn't matter unless one is resistant against such weapons.

So asking about this obvious non resistance should snap people into focus on the actual things that matter here.

So we have Achilles with superior skill
And Perseus being somewhat stronger (not that it matters) and about equal fighting speed. But without the phucking luck PIS he had.

Who do you think wins?

RJ 2.0
Originally posted by h1a8
I don't care who wins. He's not faster though.
OP gave them similar weaponry to make this a good fight.
Achilles still has the fighting skill advantage. So still a good debate.

LOL no, Perseus is definitely faster in his fight scenes. He also thought much tougher opponents than Achilles did.

So Achilles has a God sword now? LOL man, funny how that worked out. He still loses.

riv6672
Originally posted by Robtard
Are you sure it's an act?
eek!

h1a8
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
LOL no, Perseus is definitely faster in his fight scenes. He also thought much tougher opponents than Achilles did.

So Achilles has a God sword now? LOL man, funny how that worked out. He still loses.

He's not faster at all. Who are you trying to con dude?

The each have basic weaponry per the OP.

Hector is more skilled than anyone Perseus fought.
As far as monsters, Perseus was incredibly lucky. He was protected by plot.

DarkSaint85
Isn't Hector losing to Achilles pretty much the epitome of plot????

h1a8
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Isn't Hector losing to Achilles pretty much the epitome of plot???? He was more skilled than Hector.
I'm judging on the fight sequences. The actual showing of skill.
Hector was incredibly skilled by looking how he fought Achilles.
Same for Achilles (as well as other fights).

DarkSaint85
Yes but Achilles was always going to beat and kill Hector. Hector could have been given an M-16 and unlimited ammo, it wouldn't have saved him.

RJ 2.0
Originally posted by h1a8
He's not faster at all. Who are you trying to con dude?

The each have basic weaponry per the OP.

Hector is more skilled than anyone Perseus fought.
As far as monsters, Perseus was incredibly lucky. He was protected by plot.

LOL which versions of their respective movies did you watch? Everything in every scene of both movies goes against everything you just said.

Dude, Perseus best ARES.

RJ 2.0
With Perseus fault Calibos, he was way faster than Achilles. There's no scene in Troy that shows Achilles moving that fast. Also, Perseus is far more agile and athletic, he was Ninja flipping off walls and shit. In no world or scenario does Achilles win this.

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