Kingpin vs various Marvel bricks

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zopzop
Wilson Fisk, aka Kingpin, vs these guys/gals. Everyone fighting in character. Fight takes place in Manhattan's Battery Park. It's not a gauntlet. Which of the following characters does he take a majority of wins?

1) Namorita (fresh out the Hudson River)
2) Classic Rogue with Ms. Marvel's powers (no drain touch)
3) Rhino
4) Luke Cage
5) Colossus
6) Wonder Man
7) Gray Hulk

abhilegend
Namorita one taps him.

Smurph
He drowns Namorita in the Hudson.

Then he uses Colossus as a bat to beat the shit out of Bane. thumb up

Gadabout
TBH all of these folks ( even Luke ) should be able to absolutely stomp KP

But...classic-sweet Jesus/Christmas-Luke would very likely loose due to societal dynamics

h1a8
So you have at best a 10-15 tonner (5 tonner on average) going against beings several strength tiers (some many) above KP?

abhilegend
Originally posted by Smurph
He drowns Namorita in the Hudson.

Then he uses Colossus as a bat to beat the shit out of Bane. thumb up
You seem upset

leonidas
smurph and abhi trying to dethrone carv and ds?? i hope so. a new power couple has been long overdue on kmc. love

and zop, wtf? laughing out loud

zopzop
Originally posted by leonidas

and zop, wtf? laughing out loud
What do you mean?

Kingpin has ragdolled Gray Hulk, tanked blasts from Doom/a Doombot, he appears to be either bulletproof or highly resistant to them, he's gone up against elite streets and either wrecked them or held his own. He's clearly superhuman with excellent durability and fighting skills (he boxes and wrestles).

IMHO, he makes it to 4 where it's an even 50/50.

StiltmanFTW
Without BendisPower or BLM amp, Cage is just a moron.

Making him a mayor of New York was one of the most retarded ideas in the Marvel Omniverse as a whole.

Remember when he was the leader of New Avengers? He did a whole lot of nothing, all other members made the important decisions for him.

tkitna
Originally posted by zopzop
What do you mean?

Kingpin has ragdolled Gray Hulk, tanked blasts from Doom/a Doombot, he appears to be either bulletproof or highly resistant to them, he's gone up against elite streets and either wrecked them or held his own. He's clearly superhuman with excellent durability and fighting skills (he boxes and wrestles).

IMHO, he makes it to 4 where it's an even 50/50.

Eh Fixit came back and beat the crap out of him. He might stand a chance against the ever jobbing Rhino, but nobody else in this thread.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by tkitna
Eh Fixit came back and beat the crap out of him. He might stand a chance against the ever jobbing Rhino, but nobody else in this thread.

Actually, it was Fisk who came back and got his revenge. That's what made it epic.

You got it the other way round, honey.

Magnificent M

carver9
I don't know why people keep bringing up the Fixit fight. He did absolutely nothing against Hulk. Nothing.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
I don't know why people keep bringing up the Fixit fight. He did absolutely nothing against Hulk. Nothing.

https://i.ibb.co/hV4DxS3/IbPGYG0.gif

Big grimace of pain on Fixit's face and him getting knocked on his ass and staying there for a while tell us otherwise.

And that was combat-ready Fixit who just no-sold Rhino's charge, so you've got no excuses this time, Carver High School.

https://i.ibb.co/DYYPGr9/joe.png

carver9
Lol... so my new name is Carver high school? I think that's more of a surprised look. He did nothing

zopzop
Someone on another forum pointed this out, here is an angry Peter Parker (Kingpin was responsible for Aunt May being shot and in the hospital) vs Kingpin :
https://i.postimg.cc/bS2c7t1Z/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/0r6sMLh9/image.jpg
He wasn't even going all out. He was literally ***** slapping him into submission and rightfully stated that he could kill him in 3 seconds if he wanted to.

This was from Amazing Spiderman 542.

Smurph
Yeah. Peter went full tilt rage, for once. Nice reminder of what he can do.

Did you just never read OMD? Or the comics leading up to it?

zopzop
Originally posted by Smurph
Yeah. Peter went full tilt rage, for once. Nice reminder of what he can do.

Did you just never read OMD? Or the comics leading up to it?
Nope. This is new to me.

carver9
Spiderman always hold back, especially against Fisk. A serious Spiderman has shown he can take on anyone. Heck, Spiderman could probably drop anyone on that list you have up there if he was dedicated in doing so. I wouldn't look at that as a bad scenario tbh.

h1a8
Originally posted by zopzop
What do you mean?

Kingpin has ragdolled Gray Hulk, tanked blasts from Doom/a Doombot, he appears to be either bulletproof or highly resistant to them, he's gone up against elite streets and either wrecked them or held his own. He's clearly superhuman with excellent durability and fighting skills (he boxes and wrestles).

IMHO, he makes it to 4 where it's an even 50/50.

Anyone with class 2-3 strength can knock a 900lb being down, especially when they are not completely bracing against the strike.

And ragdoll? Wtf?
Did you read the comic?
Fixit no sold Fisk's punch when he was bracing.
When Fixit wasn't bracing Fisk managed to knock Fixit down.
That's all that can be proven he did. Captain America and Batman have better feats against even stronger foes.

The fact of the matter is that Fisk is class 10 at best. The guys on the list are at least several strength tiers above him.

This is a stupid thread.

steverules_2

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by zopzop
Someone on another forum pointed this out, here is an angry Peter Parker (Kingpin was responsible for Aunt May being shot and in the hospital) vs Kingpin :
https://i.postimg.cc/bS2c7t1Z/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/0r6sMLh9/image.jpg
He wasn't even going all out. He was literally ***** slapping him into submission and rightfully stated that he could kill him in 3 seconds if he wanted to.

This was from Amazing Spiderman 542.

Wake up, Zoppie, love.

That was Pete with the Other & Queen upgrades, written by Straczynski who wanked him all the time even before those.

Current Pete:

https://i.ibb.co/QXxMygP/fisk41.png

Smurph
^ just put a KMC logo over Fisk's face and send it to that other forum thumb up

darthgoober
I've always thought it'd be cool if Kingpin got himself a symbiote. If the natural strength multiplier they apply makes Brock that much stronger than Spidey then Fisk should be able to knock his opponents to moon if he had one. With the volume of Symbiotes running around the past few years it almost seems illogical that he doesn't have one

Parmaniac
https://i.ibb.co/2KMGtz7/35873bcd1fab5db6b19d087372314f88.jpg

zopzop
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wake up, Zoppie, love.

That was Pete with the Other & Queen upgrades, written by Straczynski who wanked him all the time even before those.

Current Pete:

https://i.ibb.co/QXxMygP/fisk41.png
So we're right back to square one.

In your opinion, do you think he could take a majority vs Namorita (the weakest person in that list)?

h1a8
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wake up, Zoppie, love.

That was Pete with the Other & Queen upgrades, written by Straczynski who wanked him all the time even before those.

Current Pete:

https://i.ibb.co/QXxMygP/fisk41.png
Not to say that you are wrong but it seems no in here knows what you are referring to.

Go ahead and CAREFULLY prove that Pete was amped during that scene in which he isn't amped anymore (I.e. the feat does not count).

Provide all relevant issue numbers.

Stoic
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Without BendisPower or BLM amp, Cage is just a moron.

Making him a mayor of New York was one of the most retarded ideas in the Marvel Omniverse as a whole.

Remember when he was the leader of New Avengers? He did a whole lot of nothing, all other members made the important decisions for him.

Matt Murdock would have made for a better one of course. After all, it takes a few years of law school to be remotely effective as a politician. Unless this is a color thing? In no universe was Kingpin ever supposed to be stronger than Cage. Or beat him in a fight

He has no chance against any of them. Physically speaking; if we were to go way back to the 70"s when the Thing was at the near top of the strong men of Marvel, Cage was able to hold his own for a while, in a fight against him, albeit if I recall, one of them was under the Puppet Masters influence. I read it ling ago, so it's a bit foggy.

cdtm
Originally posted by Stoic
Matt Murdock would have made for a better one of course. After all, it takes a few years of law school to be remotely effective as a politician. Unless this is a color thing? In no universe was Kingpin ever supposed to be stronger than Cage. Or beat him in a fight

He has no chance against any of them. Physically speaking; if we were to go way back to the 70"s when the Thing was at the near top of the strong men of Marvel, Cage was able to hold his own for a while, in a fight against him, albeit if I recall, one of them was under the Puppet Masters influence. I read it ling ago, so it's a bit foggy.

Color thing? Color thing??


I'll let Uncle Ruckus handle this.

Stoic
Exactly, my thoughts cdtm, genealogy is ridiculously wain. We are all related genetically after all.

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