The Lowest you can go, Vs the Defenders!
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DarkSaint85
You have to choose one powerset from Marvel, to be yours. You are only allowed the limits shown by said character, but you're allowed to be more creative with the powers.
So for example, if you choose, say, Luke Cage, you get super strength, durability, etc with the power LEVEL limited to everything that Luke Cage has shown in comics. BUT you can be more creative, so you can....carry steel ball bearings in your pocket to throw at your enemies, for example, even though Luke doesn't do this.
You are facing the Defenders i.e. Strange, Hulk, Surfer and Namor.
Who is the LOWEST tiered character you choose, and can be creative with?
ShadowFyre
And the defenders are operating at what? Bloodlusted? I'm going to assume average portrayals though.
Also, how much are we allowed to prep our characters? Standard gear only?
Because for Luke to bring steel bearings would not be a normal load out.
Cool thread I don't have a character yet, but I'm going to need someone with a lot of hax and durability cuz no matter how look at it I'm going to be taking hits from some of them at some point and I have to be able to withstand that if I can't find a character they can just hax them out from the get go
DarkSaint85
The Defenders are in it to win it, but they're not bloodlusted/out of character.
Surfer isn't standing around philosophising about what it means to be in conflict, but neither is he starting the match by throwing a black hole in your anus. However, neither is he going to try and tank your attack if he can help it, if that makes sense.
Yeah standard gear, maybe I should have said you as Luke can break your chain link belt and throw it at superspeed or something.
With or without prep ...hmm.
Maybe yes to prep, BUT the Defenders know that you've had prep and have potentially prepped for them. So Strange would be cautious, Namor and Hulk would be arrogant (depending on who you've picked) and try to tank it, etc.
Gadabout
One person to take out these four? Damn...not asking much. I mean these four covers a very wide range of abilities in offense, defense and endurance.
With prep. Reed...and there are too many scenarios of how this could be done for me to express...but I would have access to entropy tech and the Ultimate nullifier. But w/out prep...no chance.
Pym...again with prep.
What about Shadowcat power set? I could try to merge Hulk and Namor bodies. Maybe rip out Strange's heart...not sure how I harm SS...so that would be a fail.
zopzop
Man, this is a big task even for a Trans tier. You got one of Marvel's elite High Heralds (Surfer), Marvel's Elite Brick (Hulk), Marvel's most powerful mage (Dr. Strange), and a flying mid-tier brick (Namor is the weakest here by far but he's still formidable).
Having said that, I'd go with Skeet (the Chaos Mite). They are small, fast, manurable, durable as hell, and apparently powerful enough to kill herald level beings (Thanos thought she could kill Fallen One). I'd go for Strange first as soon as possible, he's the biggest threat but he's a glass canon with human reflexes. Then Surfer. You can safely ignore Hulk and Namor since they can't even catch you and pick them off at your leisure.
StiltmanFTW
Namor has fought and stalemated the Hulk more times than any other superhero.
He makes Thor and Herc look like pathetic weaklings who ask you to be gentle with them, zoppie.
MrMind
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Namor has fought and stalemated the Hulk more times than any other superhero.
He makes Thor and Herc look like pathetic weaklings who ask you to be gentle with them, zoppie.
did i not tell you
you don't deserve to even mention the mighty thor's name
how dare you slander the golden thunder chad!
peasant!!
StiltmanFTW
This act of yours never gets boring

zopzop
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Namor has fought and stalemated the Hulk more times than any other superhero.
He makes Thor and Herc look like pathetic weaklings who ask you to be gentle with them, zoppie.
LOL. Yeah I get your point but he's still the least formidable member of the Defenders overall.
PS, I take back my Skeet/Chaos Mite suggestion. Just saw what they did to her in the Yondu limited series. Yikes.
StiltmanFTW
K.
"The least formidable member" brutally assrapes your favourite characters every single day and twice on Sundays, then:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11114/111143954/3874306-0635157136-namor.gif
Smurph
Next thread is gonna be just about beating Namor.
DS will ask the forum: what's the Lawest you can go? mmm
carver9
Proteus reality warping power and yes, that's the lowest I can find.
zopzop
Maybe the Elder Runner? Blitz Strange, then go for Surfer while ignoring Hulk and Namor. Basically, my pre-nerf Skeet strategy.
StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by zopzop
Maybe the Elder Runner? Blitz Strange, then go for Surfer while ignoring Hulk and Namor. Basically, my pre-nerf Skeet strategy.
Runner is not smart enough to solo any of the Defenders, let alone the whole team.
carver9
This is zop with the powers, though. Even with that, it depends on how the team is fighting. If they are fighting to the best of their ability, anyone of these people besides Namor knocks Zop out.
StiltmanFTW
Namor knocks your Hulk out just fine, carvie.
carver9
Ok. Zop still loses here depending on how serious these individuals are.
DarkSaint85
They're looking to win, they know they're in a fight, but they're not bloodlusted.
Galan007
A high-end speedster would be my first choice, but Marvel is in short supply of those, so maybe a high-end telepath?
If you're allowing prep, however, then perhaps Doom?
DarkSaint85
Prep is allowed, but the team will know this (as well as who you've chosen). So will fight accordingly (i.e. the match starts, and the Defenders *know* that Doom has prepped something for them, but they don't know what).
Would Surfer then attempt a blitz, to stop you from enacting those plans? Would Strange hang back, preferring to see what you bring, but raise his strongest shields in preparation? Would Hulk (which I am using Savage here) decide nah, Hulk's the strongest there is, and leap straight at you?
Your prep needs to then account for a blitzing Surfer (for example) whilst Strange *might* be attacking you mystically/astrally whilst Hulk is fisting you greenily etc.
Or it might not. This thread is to test your knowledge of characters and how they fight, but also your creativity.
If you decide to enter the thread with zero prep, then the Defenders also don't fight as if you have prep. So if Zop wants to just punch everyone in the face, can they react in time?
DeadpoolXXX
cassandra nova (the classic version)
leonidas
hmm, i'll consider.

leonidas
that's a pretty powerful collection. first thought was someone who could AOE them with psi like prof x. he might be able to do it, or nate grey--x-man. it would be way easier with a dc guy but i think if i had to try the lowest level guy i could think of who'd have a chance would be hank pym. other guys with prep might do it (reed of course is one) but pym has some pretty wild applications with his powers--being able to shrink to microverse size and grow to...eternity size. he's got great reaction feats and can teleport at will. he might be able to do it.
DarkSaint85
If you choose prep, do you think (in character), that Strange/Surfer et al would give you the chance to enact said prep, as they know you're coming onto the field with unspecified (to them) prep?
ShadowFyre
Shadow cat launches herself at lightspeed at the defenders who are standing in a straight line like they always do she intangible snatches their nuts and then places them on to silver surfer, who having no nuts dies from a testosterone surge from Namor.
Only prep she needed was to be shot out of a rocket and wait for them to stand in a straight line.
Seriously though, can she snatch body parts out?
leonidas
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If you choose prep, do you think (in character), that Strange/Surfer et al would give you the chance to enact said prep, as they know you're coming onto the field with unspecified (to them) prep?
don't really need prep I don't think. immediately shrink to near microverse size. teleport inside ss's brain then grow to monster size to kill him. shrink again and repeat on strange. I doubt strange can find him or cast a spell fast enough to prevent it happening. not even sure strange's magic could affect him if he shrinks small enough that he travels between sub-atomic particles. that would be a very difficult thing to prove. namor and hulk would be non factors. both could be shrunk to sub-atomic size or bfr'd to the microverse before they knew what happened. he'd even shrink below the threshold of being able to be found via tp. with his ability to teleport, his power set is pretty broken--moreso than most would think. /shrug
Smurph
Where does the fight take place?
DarkSaint85
On a forum, in our imaginations
But also, in the usual KMC ring.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Shadow cat launches herself at lightspeed at the defenders who are standing in a straight line like they always do she intangible snatches their nuts and then places them on to silver surfer, who having no nuts dies from a testosterone surge from Namor.
Only prep she needed was to be shot out of a rocket and wait for them to stand in a straight line.
Seriously though, can she snatch body parts out?
She has threatened to do so. Actually doing so? She took the Death Seed out of Mystique, so there's that:
https://imgur.com/FcCoQI9
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