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Instead of the heroes having to stop Thanos, it's a collection of MCU villains that have to stop him. Some are not truly villains to the core perhaps, but did have a villainous agenda.

Ultron
Loki in the Destroyer Armor (Thor)
Abomination
Iron Monger
The Mandarin (Shang-Chi)
Namor
Ikaris

Can they win?

Nope

Nope.

He doesnt have the globe here of course.

Dunno guys, Thanos is pretty good damn durable. The only things shown to really hurt him were Stormbreaker, a weapon powerful enough to no sell a complete Infinity Gauntlet blast, Scarlet Witch in full buttmad mode, who herself has infinity Stone derived powers and Captain Marvel, who also has Infinity Stone derived powers.

Originally posted by Robtard
Dunno guys, Thanos is pretty good damn durable. The only things shown to really hurt him were Stormbreaker, a weapon powerful enough to no sell a complete Infinity Gauntlet blast, Scarlet Witch in full buttmad mode, who herself has infinity Stone derived powers and Captain Marvel, who also has Infinity Stone derived powers. I don't recall Captain marvel EVER hurting Thanos. When did she do this?

He's very durable yes and He wins this.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
I don't recall Captain marvel EVER hurting Thanos. When did she do this?

He's very durable yes and He wins this.

She was doing pretty darned good against Thanos. Even no sold a head butt from him. He was in trouble for a moment.

Originally posted by tkitna
She was doing pretty darned good against Thanos. Even no sold a head butt from him. He was in trouble for a moment.


Wasn't she outright absorbing energy from the gauntlet when she no sold the headbutt? He managed to keep her out of the fight for sometime with a throw so it wouldn't make sense for her to suddenly be able to no sell him

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Wasn't she outright absorbing energy from the gauntlet when she no sold the headbutt? He managed to keep her out of the fight for sometime with a throw so it wouldn't make sense for her to suddenly be able to no sell him

You may be right. I'm not sure.

they win in the mind's eye of thinkerer and h1 while everyone else knows they get their asses killed

^^^Seems right.

Seems like a lot of heavyweights here. So am I missing something?

Cause personally I'd assume he'd have trouble just against Abomination and Namor.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Seems like a lot of heavyweights here. So am I missing something?

Cause personally I'd assume he'd have trouble just against Abomination and Namor.

He ragdolled the Hulk like he was a child. I don't see any issues with Abomination and Namor.

^^^Agreed.

Originally posted by tkitna
She was doing pretty darned good against Thanos. Even no sold a head butt from him. He was in trouble for a moment. Well he said CM hurt Thanos. I don't recall her hurting him.


Originally posted by tkitna
He ragdolled the Hulk like he was a child. I don't see any issues with Abomination and Namor.

And hulk actually caught him off guard to begin with, he still pushed hulk's shit in, in a few hits.
Also Endgame Thanos uses his blade, That means there's gonna be a lotta Abominable meat littered all over the place.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Well he said CM hurt Thanos. I don't recall her hurting him.


My bad. Nah, she didn't hurt him, but he felt a punch or two.

Thanos most likely wins but I see the destroyer as a problem.

Originally posted by tkitna
He ragdolled the Hulk like he was a child. I don't see any issues with Abomination and Namor.

He overpowered him in short order with superior strength and h2h. But I wouldnt say it was a ragdoll. Certainly not treating like a child.

Ragdolling is what Hulk did to Loki in A1 (and even after a showing like that, not sure I'd be comfortable assuming Hulk just ploughs through two or three Loki's)..

Abomination is near Hulk level. So just with Abom and Namor you almost have essentially 2 Hulks right there.

And then theres Ikaris. So id say 3 heavyweights, 2 with flight, we have ranged attacks as well.

Without Infinity Stones Ive personally not seen anything from Thanos to make me think he will just plough through this many heavyweights. He wasnt THAT much stronger than Hulk (though he clearly was a much better fighter). And he lacks in versatility.

He has the sword here, that will certainly help, but then Namor has his vibranium staff as well.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
He overpowered him in short order with superior strength and h2h. But I wouldnt say it was a ragdoll. Certainly not treating like a child.

Ragdolling is what Hulk did to Loki in A1 (and even after a showing like that, not sure I'd be comfortable assuming Hulk just ploughs through two or three Loki's)..

Abomination is near Hulk level. So just with Abom and Namor you almost have essentially 2 Hulks right there.

It was a stomp, That Hulk landed any hit at all was because he took him off guard even then Hulk's punches did nothing at all.

Ehh Hulk can certainly take 2 or 3 Loki's. Ironman put Loki on his *ss with just a single blast.

What puts Namor on Hulk's level though?

Thanos has taken 2 heavy weights on Hulk's level and stomped them both at the same time. So there's that.

Edit: I thought you'd mention Final form Ultron, he was quite strong too , He was beating Thor iirc

Originally posted by Darth Thor
He overpowered him in short order with superior strength and h2h. But I wouldnt say it was a ragdoll. Certainly not treating like a child.

Ragdolling is what Hulk did to Loki in A1 (and even after a showing like that, not sure I'd be comfortable assuming Hulk just ploughs through two or three Loki's)..

Abomination is near Hulk level. So just with Abom and Namor you almost have essentially 2 Hulks right there.

And then theres Ikaris. So id say 3 heavyweights, 2 with flight, we have ranged attacks as well.

Without Infinity Stones Ive personally not seen anything from Thanos to make me think he will just plough through this many heavyweights. He wasnt THAT much stronger than Hulk (though he clearly was a much better fighter). And he lacks in versatility.

He has the sword here, that will certainly help, but then Namor has his vibranium staff as well.

It was a beating. The only reason he got hit at all was because it was a surprise attack. Ebony Maw even said = "Let him have his fun". The Hulk was zero threat to him. After he pummeled the Hulk, Thor stepped in and couldnt even phase Thanos.

Abomination and Namor would pose no problems. Ikaris would be annoying due to his eye beams, but he better not let Thanos grab him or he's short work too.

Let the truth be the truth. Yes Thanos stomped Hulk but it wasn't a ragdoll or treating him like a child. No need for that type of exaggerating.

Namor can possibly stab Thanos with the spear when Thanos is occupied by so many individuals (especially those shooting beams).
This is only a possibility.

The Destroyer on the other hand would be tough for Thanos to put down. It would be a huge distraction at the very least (going by feats) and a semi threat (going by Odin intentions of creating it).

Originally posted by h1a8
Let the truth be the truth. Yes Thanos stomped Hulk but it wasn't a ragdoll or treating him like a child. No need for that type of exaggerating.


Guess we percieve it differently. Once Thanos collected himself, the Hulk couldn't even mount an offensive attack. He was barraged by punches. The Hulk was absolutely powerless to do anything. Thanos was toying with him.

Originally posted by h1a8


Namor can possibly stab Thanos with the spear when Thanos is occupied by so many individuals (especially those shooting beams).
This is only a possibility.

The Destroyer on the other hand would be tough for Thanos to put down. It would be a huge distraction at the very least (going by feats) and a semi threat (going by Odin intentions of creating it).
^^^Stop exaggerating.

Didn't Thanos have the power gem when he owned Hulk?

I dunno, am I?

Originally posted by Thinkerer
Didn't Thanos have the power gem when he owned Hulk? he had it yes. but the director commentary confirms that he wasn't using it.

aside from that, the mcu power stone hasn't been definitively shown to buff the user's physical stats anyway. it ain't the comic version.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
he had it yes. but the director commentary confirms that he wasn't using it.

aside from that, the mcu power stone hasn't been definitively shown to buff the user's physical stats anyway. it ain't the comic version.
^^^See, this is why you start such good threads.

Originally posted by tkitna
It was a beating. The only reason he got hit at all was because it was a surprise attack. Ebony Maw even said = "Let him have his fun". The Hulk was zero threat to him. After he pummeled the Hulk, Thor stepped in and couldnt even phase Thanos.

Abomination and Namor would pose no problems. Ikaris would be annoying due to his eye beams, but he better not let Thanos grab him or he's short work too.

I need to see him up against multiple heavyweights. Let's face it, his 3 on 1 (Thor, IM and Cap) in Endgame only had the 1 heavyweight in terms of strength.

Also I know it's a different reality where he likely didn't keep up his fighting skills, but I can't forget his fight against Cull Obsidian and Proxima in his "What If" appearance where T'Challa is Starlord and redeems Thanos before he collects the Infinity Stones.

Originally posted by h1a8


Namor can possibly stab Thanos with the spear when Thanos is occupied by so many individuals (especially those shooting beams).
This is only a possibility.




Actually agree with this. Namor has the strength and weapon to stab Thanos, he just needs help as distractions. And these distractions are pretty strong and verastile themselves and not easy to even hit.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^Stop exaggerating.
What was the exaggeration?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I need to see him up against multiple heavyweights. Let's face it, his 3 on 1 (Thor, IM and Cap) in Endgame only had the 1 heavyweight in terms of strength.

Also I know it's a different reality where he likely didn't keep up his fighting skills, but I can't forget his fight against Cull Obsidian and Proxima in his "What If" appearance where T'Challa is Starlord and redeems Thanos before he collects the Infinity Stones.




Actually agree with this. Namor has the strength and weapon to stab Thanos, he just needs help as distractions. And these distractions are pretty strong and verastile themselves and not easy to even hit.
Thor and Iron man are both at least a match or better to the heavyweights you mentioned.

As you said different reality.

So does Fat Thor, guess what he almost got impaled with his own Stormbreaker. Fat Thor is still far more powerful than Namor.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Thor and Iron man are both at least a match or better to the heavyweights you mentioned.

You think IM is equal to Abomination?

Abom and Namor are both clearly much stronger than IM. And Namor can fly and has a vibranium weapon as well.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
As you said different reality.

Yeah but they are closely related realities however. So let's not pretend like Thanos from that reality has a completely different physiology or never learned to fight. The main changes to those realities are made pretty clear.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
So does Fat Thor, guess what he almost got impaled with his own Stormbreaker. Fat Thor is still far more powerful than Namor.

Except Fat Thor didn't have Hulk to grip Thanos from behind for him.

Again, I've not seen anything from Thanos to suggest he can play around with multiple heavweights the way say Scarlet Witch did in Multiverse of Madness. The lack of versatility in his powers doesn't exactly help either.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
You think IM is equal to Abomination?

Abom and Namor are both clearly much stronger than IM. And Namor can fly and has a vibranium weapon as well.
.

I think Bleeding Edge Ironman is more powerful than Namor.
Not equal but in a fight IM has the tools to KO Abom.
How much more powerful do you think Abom is than IM?

Never argued Ironman being stronger than Namor. He has more than strength going for him.
What makes Namor "much" stronger than Ironman though?
Did he lift a Submarine or something?

Namor is also clearly not on the level of Thor.
POINT is Ironman is also a heavyweight.

Originally posted by Darth Thor

Yeah but they are closely related realities however. So let's not pretend like Thanos from that reality has a completely different physiology or never learned to fight. The main changes to those realities are made pretty clear.
Best to stay out of it. All you have is speculation at best. Alternate reality versions don't interchange feats, they are literally not the same Thanos.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Except Fat Thor didn't have Hulk to grip Thanos from behind for him.

Again, I've not seen anything from Thanos to suggest he can play around with multiple heavweights the way say Scarlet Witch did in Multiverse of Madness. The lack of versatility in his powers doesn't exactly help either.

So I guess Thanos is just sitting there waving his blade while Abom grips him? You know Thanos has his blade here right? Blade if aimed right will probably oneshot Namor.


He has completely dominated 2 on screen though.

Now who's really going to put Thanos down here? Are we all hoping on Namor's Spear ? Once Namor is out the team is gone? If not who else is going to put him down?

Originally posted by 9jaboy
I think Bleeding Edge Ironman is more powerful than Namor.
Not equal but in a fight IM has the tools to KO Abom.
How much more powerful do you think Abom is than IM?

Well he couldn't KO Cull Obsidian in his most impressive armour, so I'm not seeing it. Outside of Hulkbuster.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Never argued Ironman being stronger than Namor. He has more than strength going for him.

That's what I mean by heavyweights though. I think multiple opponents with immense strength is going start stacking up and being too much for Thanos. Even moreso with their versatility of powers that he clearly lacks.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
What makes Namor "much" stronger than Ironman though?
Did he lift a Submarine or something?

Ripping through Wakandan ships. Aside from that it's In Universe and Director commentary putting him on Thor/Hulk level of strength.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Namor is also clearly not on the level of Thor.
POINT is Ironman is also a heavyweight.

Like I said, he couldn't take Cull Obsidian, so not seeing it.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Best to stay out of it. All you have is speculation at best. Alternate reality versions don't interchange feats, they are literally not the same Thanos.


Fair. I never actually used it as an argument. More just explaining it doesn't help my impression of Thanos being the type to rip through multiple heavyweights.

Btw the only time we see him do a big leap is in the What If episode. Going by just the movies he can't even leap up to catch his opponents.


Originally posted by 9jaboy
So I guess Thanos is just sitting there waving his blade while Abom grips him? You know Thanos has his blade here right? Blade if aimed right will probably oneshot Namor.

He's probably using his blade to block Ikaris's HV, whilst Abom grips him, and then he has to fight off Namor with his staff. Honeslty just those 3 seem a bit much to me.


Originally posted by 9jaboy
He has completely dominated 2 on screen though.

2 including IM. Again not convinced that's 2.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Now who's really going to put Thanos down here? Are we all hoping on Namor's Spear ? Once Namor is out the team is gone? If not who else is going to put him down?

The spear is certainly a threat to him. His own blade could be if he drops it and someone else grabs it. What's even his durability feats for taking Heat blasts? There's too much going on for him just with those 3.

We've not seen him hold his own against 3 combatants like this, and we know he's not invincible. Thor, Captain Marvel and SW have all been on the winning side against him one v one at some point.

^ Correction. Ikaris eye beams were not heat blasts. Was the same cosmic energy the other Eternals used. It physically threw around Deviants, so cosmic force blasts I guess.

Originally posted by tkitna
Guess we percieve it differently. Once Thanos collected himself, the Hulk couldn't even mount an offensive attack. He was barraged by punches. The Hulk was absolutely powerless to do anything. Thanos was toying with him.

Thanos was never toying with Hulk. He put forth some serious effort into whipping his arse. It was just a matter of skillful attacks, some as pressure points. But it took effort.

I can one shot a child or nearly ragdoll one (depending on how old).
Thanos can't come close to doing anything like that to Hulk.
Yes Thanos stomped Hulk. So let's just leave it at that. No exaggeration needed.

If Hulk had any fighting skill or a little more speed of attack then he couldve lasted a lot longer.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
You think IM is equal to Abomination?

Abom and Namor are both clearly much stronger than IM. And Namor can fly and has a vibranium weapon as well.



Yeah but they are closely related realities however. So let's not pretend like Thanos from that reality has a completely different physiology or never learned to fight. The main changes to those realities are made pretty clear.



Except Fat Thor didn't have Hulk to grip Thanos from behind for him.

Again, I've not seen anything from Thanos to suggest he can play around with multiple heavweights the way say Scarlet Witch did in Multiverse of Madness. The lack of versatility in his powers doesn't exactly help either.

Namor is extremely weak dude. He has no great feats. Swinging a helicopter and a Wakanda ships around? Breaking some strong oak wood (that has no feats). What's that class 10?
We go by feats. This isn't comic Namor. We treat movie characters completely different than their comic counterparts (basically a completely different character altogether).

Abom is weak too. He couldn't break a very thick chains. And him and Hulk was seen throwing cars a short distance. He has no feats above class 10. Neither does that Hulk.

Originally posted by h1a8
Namor is extremely weak dude. He has no great feats. Swinging a helicopter and a Wakanda ships around? Breaking some strong oak wood (that has no feats). What's that class 10?
We go by feats. This isn't comic Namor. We treat movie characters completely different than their comic counterparts (basically a completely different character altogether).

Abom is weak too. He couldn't break a very thick chains. And him and Hulk was seen throwing cars a short distance. He has no feats above class 10. Neither does that Hulk.

This is funny coming from the guy always going on about writers intention. Except when it comes to In Univerae comments and directors commentary for Marvel movies.

Not referring to comics at all. But Power scaling matters. And going by power scaling - Abom is a near Hulk level character.

And Namor overpowering Wakanda tech and armies is no small feat. Remember OG Black Panther (after building up kinetic energy with his suit) knocked Cull Obsidian flat on his ass, and he was defeated by being smashed against a Wakandan force field. Whilst Iron Man in his most impressive suit was about to get beaten by Cull before Wong saved him.

The new Black Panther however along with the Gen Z Iron Woman needed weakness exploitation to even stand a chance against Namor. So I defo power scale Namor above IM. And by quite a bit.

In any case, I see you guys think Thanos wins here because you just have a much lower opinion of the characters hes up against than I do. Which is understandable given their limited exposure.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
This is funny coming from the guy always going on about writers intention. Except when it comes to In Univerae comments and directors commentary for Marvel movies.

Not referring to comics at all. But Power scaling matters. And going by power scaling - Abom is a near Hulk level character.

And Namor overpowering Wakanda tech and armies is no small feat. Remember OG Black Panther (after building up kinetic energy with his suit) knocked Cull Obsidian flat on his ass, and he was defeated by being smashed against a Wakandan force field. Whilst Iron Man in his most impressive suit was about to get beaten by Cull before Wong saved him.

The new Black Panther however along with the Gen Z Iron Woman needed weakness exploitation to even stand a chance against Namor. So I defo power scale Namor above IM. And by quite a bit.

In any case, I see you guys think Thanos wins here because you just have a much lower opinion of the characters hes up against than I do. Which is understandable given their limited exposure.

Hulk in the movie you are scaling off is a 10-15 tonner.

I'm sorry but if both character A and B fails to lift x tons in movie 1.
But in movie 2 character B doesn't fail to lift x tons then either
1. character B is a different character in movie 2(character A stays where he is)
Or
2. Character B is stronger in movie 2 (character A still stays where he is).

That's like me and you shown to be equal strength where we both try to lift 300lb but fail. But in movie 2 I lift 400lb. Does that make you stronger now?

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk in the movie you are scaling off is a 10-15 tonner.




I don't remember him struggling to lift 20 tons in that film.

It's MCU Hulk. I.e. the same Hulk. And Abom was his near equal.

There was never any mention of a substantial strength amp.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk in the movie you are scaling off is a 10-15 tonner.

I'm sorry but if both character A and B fails to lift x tons in movie 1.
But in movie 2 character B doesn't fail to lift x tons then either
1. character B is a different character in movie 2(character A stays where he is)
Or
2. Character B is stronger in movie 2 (character A still stays where he is).

That's like me and you shown to be equal strength where we both try to lift 300lb but fail. But in movie 2 I lift 400lb. Does that make you stronger now?

Or another option is PIS/WIS. For the sake of plot/timing, Hulk isn't shown benching 10,000 tons or whatever.

But he's still the same character. He hasn't gotten stronger, it's just that in that specific movie he didn't do XYZ. But feats transfer across different films/episodes/issues, if they're the same character.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk in the movie you are scaling off is a 10-15 tonner.

I'm sorry but if both character A and B fails to lift x tons in movie 1.
But in movie 2 character B doesn't fail to lift x tons then either
1. character B is a different character in movie 2(character A stays where he is)
Or
2. Character B is stronger in movie 2 (character A still stays where he is).

That's like me and you shown to be equal strength where we both try to lift 300lb but fail. But in movie 2 I lift 400lb. Does that make you stronger now?

Are you seriously trying to make an argument based on feats for every movie although they are the same character? Good lord. That's weak even from you.

It's like saying Superman's origin story isn't valid for Batman Vs Superman/Justice League, because in THOSE specific movies, the destruction of Krypton wasn't shown.

Originally posted by tkitna
Are you seriously trying to make an argument based on feats for every movie although they are the same character? Good lord. That's weak even from you.

Well it's 1 or 2.
If it's the same character then Hulk got stronger, Abom stays the same.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or another option is PIS/WIS. For the sake of plot/timing, Hulk isn't shown benching 10,000 tons or whatever.

But he's still the same character. He hasn't gotten stronger, it's just that in that specific movie he didn't do XYZ. But feats transfer across different films/episodes/issues, if they're the same character.

Its not PIS because the whole movie he was a class 10-15 character.
PIS only exists if they have contradictory feats IN THE SAME MOVIE.

If Rocky can't lift 300lb in Rocky 1 but can lift 400lb in Rocky 4 then he is stronger in Rocky 4. So anyone that matches strength with him in Rocky 1 doesn't also get a strength upgrade.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I don't remember him struggling to lift 20 tons in that film.

It's MCU Hulk. I.e. the same Hulk. And Abom was his near equal.

There was never any mention of a substantial strength amp.

Whether you believe it's the same character has no bearing on him being the same strength in later versions.
He was clearly a class 10-15 character in Norton's version. Abom matched him and failed to break a thick chain (after exerting effort).

Originally posted by h1a8
Its not PIS because the whole movie he was a class 10-15 character.
PIS only exists if they have contradictory feats IN THE SAME MOVIE.

If Rocky can't lift 300lb in Rocky 1 but can lift 400lb in Rocky 4 then he is stronger in Rocky 4. So anyone that matches strength with him in Rocky 1 doesn't also get a strength upgrade.

Where does it say this in the rules?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where does it say this in the rules?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well he couldn't KO Cull Obsidian in his most impressive armour, so I'm not seeing it. Outside of Hulkbuster.

Nah bro watch it again. Took Cull quite a while to get back to the fight after Ironman Blasted him initially.
You could see Ironman wasn't even seriously fighting him by the way he was talking to Bruce and Spiderman.
Also for your info Hulkbuster couldn't KO Cull either lol and Hulkbuster > Hulk
Cull is above Namor.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well he couldn't KO Cull Obsidian in his most impressive armour, so I'm not seeing it. Outside of Hulkbuster.



That's what I mean by heavyweights though. I think multiple opponents with immense strength is going start stacking up and being too much for Thanos. Even moreso with their versatility of powers that he clearly lacks.

Dr Strange isn't a heavyweight then or Scarlet witch for that matter but she will wipe the floor with Namor.

None of them have proven to be strong enough to hurt Thanos with punches, how exactly are the heavyweights stacking up? Hulk is stronger than all these guys yet he couldn't even hurt Thanos with a barrage of assaults and surprise attack.

Prove to me they can hurt Thanos bar the Spear(which is even a speculation)
Originally posted by Darth Thor

Ripping through Wakandan ships. Aside from that it's In Universe and Director commentary putting him on Thor/Hulk level of strength.
Ripping through with his Spear. That's a strength feat?
Is that the strength feat that's much beyond Ironman? What 😂. Go watch the fight on Titan and see IM do better than that lol. Namor couldn't even KO Mbaku , what a heavyweight.
Commentary not supported by on panel evidence.
Originally posted by Darth Thor

He's probably using his blade to block Ikaris's HV, whilst Abom grips him, and then he has to fight off Namor with his staff. Honeslty just those 3 seem a bit much to me.


Or he uses Namor to block Ikaris HV like he did with Ironman. How about that?
And easily breaks Abom's hold and slices him up.

Those 3 will be completely stomped easily imo.


2 including IM. Again not convinced that's 2.


.
Ironman is more formidable than Namor that's for Sure.
Originally posted by Darth Thor


The spear is certainly a threat to him. His own blade could be if he drops it and someone else grabs it. What's even his durability feats for taking Heat blasts? There's too much going on for him just with those 3.
If we're giving the spear Stormbreaker feats.
Thanos has better reflexes and is far more skilled and far stronger than anyone here, if anyone is grabbing another's weapon , it would be Thanos.

A dying Thanos did take CM's blasts with nothing to show for it , so there's that. Ikaris is getting more useless by the second.
What's Ikaris best HV feat?
Originally posted by Darth Thor


We've not seen him hold his own against 3 combatants like this, and we know he's not invincible. Thor, Captain Marvel and SW have all been on the winning side against him one v one at some point.
CM has never been winning against him nor ever will she! No sell a headbutt and boom everyone is hyping you.
And to be fair, All Thor did was to Throw SB at him while he tried to block it with the IG. Not a fight. (However I'm not saying SB Thor couldn't)
SW legit was crushing him.


I'm yet to see who here can hurt Thanos aside the Spear. Is it so hard to prove?

Originally posted by h1a8
Its not PIS because the whole movie he was a class 10-15 character.
PIS only exists if they have contradictory feats IN THE SAME MOVIE.

If Rocky can't lift 300lb in Rocky 1 but can lift 400lb in Rocky 4 then he is stronger in Rocky 4. So anyone that matches strength with him in Rocky 1 doesn't also get a strength upgrade.

Do you realize how silly this is (of course you don't)? The Hulk's strength has always been dependent on how mad he gets (savage Hulk anyways) so situations for him are always different. Displaying upper tier strength feats aren't always required in every situation.

Taking strength feats from one movie and solely using them for a character with varying strength like the Hulk is idiotic.

In the example you gave with Rocky, if he wasn't required to lift 300lbs in the first movie, that doesn't mean he couldn't, it only means he didn't try. He's still the same character.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Nah bro watch it again. Took Cull quite a while to get back to the fight after Ironman Blasted him initially.
You could see Ironman wasn't even seriously fighting him by the way he was talking to Bruce and Spiderman.
Also for your info Hulkbuster couldn't KO Cull either lol and Hulkbuster > Hulk
Cull is above Namor.

And yet IM needed saving both times. In IW by Spider-Man and Wong. IN Endgame by Spider-Man and Ant-Man :/

Cull clearly couldn't defeat a Wakandan army, given he was knocked on his butt by BP and defeated by Wakandan shields.

Namor needed to be weakened despite being up against the new BP, the Gen Z Iron-(Wo)Man, and Wakandan weapons.


Originally posted by 9jaboy
Dr Strange isn't a heavyweight then or Scarlet witch for that matter but she will wipe the floor with Namor.

Fair enough as I did define heavyweights myself in terms of brute strength for this discussion.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
None of them have proven to be strong enough to hurt Thanos with punches, how exactly are the heavyweights stacking up? Hulk is stronger than all these guys yet he couldn't even hurt Thanos with a barrage of assaults and surprise attack.

Prove to me they can hurt Thanos bar the Spear(which is even a speculation)


Okay let's not pretend as if Thanos was just standing there no selling Hulk's punches. If IM can drop blood from him and even Spider-Man's punches effect him, then of course all these guys are capable of hurting him. Especially with a Vibranium spear.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Ripping through with his Spear. That's a strength feat?
Is that the strength feat that's much beyond Ironman? What 😂. Go watch the fight on Titan and see IM do better than that lol. Namor couldn't even KO Mbaku , what a heavyweight.
Commentary not supported by on panel evidence.

Yes it's a strength feat, because those ships are made of vibranium. So would be like ripping through metal ships with a metal spear.



Originally posted by 9jaboy
Or he uses Namor to block Ikaris HV like he did with Ironman. How about that?
And easily breaks Abom's hold and slices him up.

Those 3 will be completely stomped easily imo.


Namor was much faster and more agile than anyting we've seen from Thanos tbh.


Originally posted by 9jaboy
Ironman is more formidable than Namor that's for Sure.


So you think BP and a Wakandan army couldn't stop an assault by IM, on his own. No Veronica or Edith? Really?


Originally posted by 9jaboy
Thanos has better reflexes and is far more skilled and far stronger than anyone here, if anyone is grabbing another's weapon , it would be Thanos.

Not convinced. Namor was blocking energy blasts from the Wakandan ships.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
A dying Thanos did take CM's blasts with nothing to show for it , so there's that. Ikaris is getting more useless by the second.
What's Ikaris best HV feat?

I don't think it's HV. Seems to be force blasts.

It was ripping into The Domo, which is a really large and dense alien craft.

In terms of Ikaris strenght and durability he casually flew through the Domo to engage Thena. He also took a load of hits from Makkari, who runs at ridiculous super sonic speeds and has super strength and durability herself, only adding to the power of those blows.


Originally posted by 9jaboy
I'm yet to see who here can hurt Thanos aside the Spear. Is it so hard to prove?

He's difficult to hurt for sure. But with the level of strength we have here, and a Vibranium spear, they should be capable of drawing blood.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
And yet IM needed saving both times. In IW by Spider-Man and Wong. IN Endgame by Spider-Man and Ant-Man :/

Cull clearly couldn't defeat a Wakandan army, given he was knocked on his butt by BP and defeated by Wakandan shields.

Namor needed to be weakened despite being up against the new BP, the Gen Z Iron-(Wo)Man, and Wakandan weapons.


Nope he didn't need it, he was playing around, In endgame he was caught off guard. Man you're really low.
Cull is superior to Hulkbuster so that isn't a low feat.

Correction, T'challa's suit kinetic energy release.

Namor was beaten up by a weaker Black panther and almost killed and let's not pretend he didn't have an army of freaking Super soldiers and still lost what a Joke.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Fair enough as I did define heavyweights myself in terms of brute strength for this discussion.


In order to discredit Ironman and Thanos. How's that working out. More strength doesn't always equal more power.


Originally posted by Darth Thor
Okay let's not pretend as if Thanos was just standing there no selling Hulk's punches. If IM can drop blood from him and even Spider-Man's punches effect him, then of course all these guys are capable of hurting him. Especially with a Vibranium spear.




Nope That's a feat for Ironman. That's more than hulk can boast off. That's above Anything Namor has done so far.
So these guys can do what Hulk couldn't do? Who here is stronger than Hulk?

On the other hand Thanos can oneshot some here. Honestly though how are they beating him?

Originally posted by Darth Thor

Yes it's a strength feat, because those ships are made of vibranium. So would be like ripping through metal ships with a metal spear.



Lol I'm sure Cap can reap through metal ships with a metal spear , Yay Namor is Super soldier level.

Originally posted by Darth Thor

Namor was much faster and more agile than anyting we've seen from Thanos tbh.



False A girl tagged him. Could Namor block every attack from IM and Thor simultaneously?

Originally posted by Darth Thor

So you think BP and a Wakandan army couldn't stop an assault by IM, on his own. No Veronica or Edith? Really?



By Ironman and an Army of Super soldiers not a chance.Who would stop him The girl BP?. The wakandan army in that movie was pathetic.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Not convinced. Namor was blocking energy blasts from the Wakandan ships.




Not impressed, Thor can block blasts from ships.

Originally posted by Darth Thor

I don't think it's HV. Seems to be force blasts.

It was ripping into The Domo, which is a really large and dense alien craft.



Dude that's HV.

He didn't even rip it one go. Yeah and didn't do much to makkari
How would it compare to say CM's energy blasts? Which did absolutely nothing to a dying Thanos.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
In terms of Ikaris strenght and durability he casually flew through the Domo to engage Thena. He also took a load of hits from Makkari, who runs at ridiculous super sonic speeds and has super strength and durability herself, only adding to the power of those blows.



Really ? that's the strength feat he brings to the table? Thena took his hits did just fine.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
He's difficult to hurt for sure. But with the level of strength we have here, and a Vibranium spear, they should be capable of drawing blood.



Who's strength specifically can hurt him?

Abom is going to be down in like a few punches. Namor maybe down in like one or two punches. Do the maths.
Thanos has blades. So Namor is like down in one slice.