Who is the weakest DC character that can replicate this feat of Uranos
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MrMind
the weakest dc character that can kill over a million mutants
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carver9
Depends on what mutants tbh. There's a lot of weak ass mutants and then we have mutants like Legion, Magneto, etc... if we are including those showings, then it'll take someone at or above skyfather level to repeat what Uranus did, and no, not Darkseid.
carver9
Wtf... what's up, Rage. How're things going with you?
DarkSaint85
Flash with the Muramasa blade. Or something similar.
Remember a there are a million microseconds in a single second. Flash has feats in the nanosecond, let alone picosecond, level.
carver9
Where is Flash getting the blade from?
ODG
Originally posted by carver9
Where is Flash getting the blade from? My initial reaction was to deride this but upon further thought... I mean, you're right, why would Flash have the Muramasa blade in this scenario?
Even if you replaced it with a DC analogue like the God Killer sword... the thread asks which DC character could do what Uranos did. It does not ask what DC character w/ random weapon could do what Uranos did.
Having said that, it's entirely fair to recognize that Uranos had full access to his doomsday Eternal weaponry when he did what he did.
batdude123
Originally posted by carver9
Depends on what mutants tbh.
This is the point that needs to be clarified in order to even give a coherent response.
ODG
^ Pretty sure the OP was referring to the same mutants that Uranos killed during A.X.E.: Judgment Day #4-5. Uranos kinda killed everyone on Arakko. Not sure if there were a million mutants but there was an entire population of battle-hardened mutants there. And mutants like Cable, Storm, Magneto and Legion tried to fight Uranos.
batdude123
Gotcha. Is there any way to quantify how powerful that population of mutants on Arakko was?
ODG
^ The X-Men writers, Hickman, Ewing and Gillen, definitely spent a lot of time portraying Arakko. Could probably list a dozen+ Arakko mutants and their collective feats as a population if I closely re-read their entire run.
Uranos was eventually defeated only by the combined Omega circuit of Magneto/Storm (which killed Magneto) and Stark hacking Uranos' own weapons upon him. But I think the biggest hurdle is Legion. Like, everybody else is sorta irrelevant.
DarkSaint85
I like how Flash getting the blade is the issue, not whether he can actually do it once he does so.
But it shows just how trivial a million is to someone with superspeed. Ok, Legion is a tough nut - replace him with one of those generic other mutants, then. Ok, the Muramasa blade is a challenge to get - replace it with another haxx weapon (golden lasso?? Whatever) or a simple sword. Or even Speed force energy, or overloading with Speed force energy, or BFR into the speed force until they die, or phase them out of time etc.
Point is, it's the Flash, and a million mutants could die in a literal second, let alone a thousandth or a millionth of a second. I just wanted to point out the insane scale of time magnitudes at play.
carver9
In character, Flash gets his wig split by most there. The weapon is needed, but it's not in play here.
DarkSaint85
In character no DC heroes or Marvel heroes are killing a million mutants either, so.....great argument as per usual, Carver

zopzop
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Point is, it's the Flash, and a million mutants could die in a literal second, let alone a thousandth or a millionth of a second. I just wanted to point out the insane scale of time magnitudes at play.
A Marvel writer actually addressed this. Without the ability to manipulate space/time, non speedsters are literal statues compared to a speedster :
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Flash, even without a HAXX weapon, could easily kill a million mutants (as long as they didn't have the ability to manipulate space/time or have superspeed at his level themselves).
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by zopzop
A Marvel writer actually addressed this. Without the ability to manipulate space/time, non speedsters are literal statues compared to a speedster :
https://i.postimg.cc/MM3tLv2N/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/xNkgVn9C/image.jpg
Flash, even without a HAXX weapon, could easily kill a million mutants (as long as they didn't have the ability to manipulate space/time or have superspeed at his level themselves).

and that's with a speedster who doesn't have the feats Flash has.
Even then, you'd need a mutant who is always 'on' and at that level of speed/controlling time/space. If they're just chilling somewhere, going about their normal day at normal human speed, then they're chucked even then.
batdude123
Originally posted by ODG
^ The X-Men writers, Hickman, Ewing and Gillen, definitely spent a lot of time portraying Arakko. Could probably list a dozen+ Arakko mutants and their collective feats as a population if I closely re-read their entire run.
Uranos was eventually defeated only by the combined Omega circuit of Magneto/Storm (which killed Magneto) and Stark hacking Uranos' own weapons upon him. But I think the biggest hurdle is Legion. Like, everybody else is sorta irrelevant.
Apologies, I want to make sure I get the details correctly here. So Magneto, Storm, and Iron Man teamed up to beat Uranos? Was this during his fight with other mutants, or afterward?
BTW, I think Flash is a good starting point for the discussion in question.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by batdude123
Apologies, I want to make sure I get the details correctly here. So Magneto, Storm, and Iron Man teamed up to beat Uranos? Was this during his fight with other mutants, or afterward?
BTW, I think Flash is a good starting point for the discussion in question.
This was after, AXE: Judgement Day #4.
Stark hacked his portals, but needed an EM charge 'like you wouldn't believe'. Storm and and heartless (literally) Magneto created a massive charge to force the portals open, enabling Stark to hack them and give control to Mags.
Who then opened portals from a dead star to fire on Uranos. Basically a variation of Darksaint85's Sunbuster tactic from using the Spot.
MrMind
there are at least 50 dc characters on earth walking around
that can end/remake entire existence in a whim with their mind
lol
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DarkSaint85
I don't even know why what Uranos did was suddenly Skyfather plus tier, barring Legion (who they annoyingly never did show how he was defeated).
I mean, Xavier could probably give a million mutants a brain seizure on his own. Manifold could (and has) opened portals from the Sun - imagine if he did it on a large scale. The whole thing about the Montesi Formula and Dr Strange was that he was capable, had he the formula, of wiping out the entire vampire species in existence (so way more than a million).
carver9
Lol @ Mind...
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DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Lol @ Mind...
https://i.ibb.co/q5zH9PT/Legion-of-X-6-Battle.png
True,, the beings Mind posted have no tapdancing or guitar solo feats
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MrMind
legion would be fodder in dc
witchmarked ww, nabu, mordru were manipulating comic panels in fourth wall level
mordru casually creating power that can split universe in half like giving out chump change
StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
(who they annoyingly never did show how he was defeated)
They did.
And it was less impressive than you think.
Legion got distracted because of his daddy issues (his one true weakness).
That's the part that Carvie boy didn't bother to post.
Legion of X #6.
ODG
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They did.
And it was less impressive than you think.
Legion got distracted because of his daddy issues (his one true weakness).
That's the part that Carvie boy didn't bother to post.
Legion of X #6. Well wouldn't the crux of the matter be whether Flash could last long enough against Legion for him to exploit this vulnerability? Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I like how Flash getting the blade is the issue, not whether he can actually do it once he does so. It's not an issue, because the Speedforce unbound is a far greater weapon than any immortality-nullifying stabby-stab.
Relying on the Muramasa blade is so utterly superfluous, it's reductive.
It's like begging the question of how much more lethal is Flash if he were wearing adamantium knuckle-dusters?
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by ODG
Well wouldn't the crux of the matter be whether Flash could last long enough against Legion for him to exploit this vulnerability? It's not an issue, because the Speedforce unbound is a far greater weapon than any immortality-nullifying stabby-stab.
Relying on the Muramasa blade is so utterly superfluous, it's reductive.
It's like begging the question of how much more lethal is Flash if he were wearing adamantium knuckle-dusters?
I agree- but then, Carv is my audience, I need to dumb it down.
ODG
OK, mang.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by ODG
I read the Legion of X issue where they explored what happened off-panel when they fought and I still don't get it.
Legion was lending his power to Nightcrawler, who was also using his mind to store refugees, including those who didn't want to be saved (which further distracted Legion). Legion was also distracted watching Nightcrawler work.
Meanwhile, Legion and Uranos were duelling but doing so in the same way two chessmasters play out an entire match in their heads, or the old martial arts movie trope where two grandmasters fight each other without lifting a finger.
They didn't actually fight. Then Uranos saw Legion was distracted, was about to take advantage of this, then Legion was saved by Banshee.
Meanwhile, as you say, Uranos' machines were slaughtering mutants. I know it wasn't you who said this, or made this argument, but what he did wasn't all that impressive. Can we really believe that if Tony Stark or the Maker really put their mind to it, they couldn't create machines capable of doing the same?
I change my answer to Cyborg. He opens Boom tubes from the Sun over Earth's major cities or over Arakko, and just pours the sun onto the planet.
Even the resulting environmental chaos would be enough.
ODG
^ So what you're saying is Flash or Cyborg could achieve what Uranos did when he slaughtered all of Arakko. Based on what comics? Who knows?
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DarkSaint85
We'll never know, tbh. Don't think they've even killed a million ants or mosquitos, tbh, so they must not be able to.
ODG
^ You sound salty. But I just remembered that I am trying to dedicate myself less towards antagonization and more towards collective appreciation over comics.
DarkSaint85
Lol I'm not.
Most of my posts here (as you pointed out) are facetious sarcasm. The others are just 'meh'.
They're comics. Nothing to be salty over.
Smurph
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I change my answer to Cyborg. He opens Boom tubes from the Sun over Earth's major cities or over Arakko, and just pours the sun onto the planet.
Even the resulting environmental chaos would be enough. Storm reminds you and Cyborg that she is the queen -- strike that, the goddess --- of environmental chaos.
She boom tubes the sun into Cyborg.
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