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The entire Harvester fleet from Independence Day 1 and 2 invade MCU Earth. At the same the alien Battleship (2012) emerges from the Pacific Ocean. Los Angeles is invaded by the species of aliens seen in Battle For Los Angeles (2011). War of the Worlds (2005) walkers emerge from the earth on the East Coast. In the south, the aliens from Skyline (2010) invade.

This is the MCU in phase 3 (instead of attacking Earth himself, Thanos enjoys the view first, by seeing how this invasion plays out) Everyone assumed to be on Earth in phase 3, but only just appeared in phase 4, are present. The invading aliens, are allied for this mission.
Can MCU-Earth survive?

The entire mcu?

MCU destroys them

Damn, that's a Lotta aliens lol. All attacking America? Avengers heavy hitters eventually win as the aliens have no way of actually putting them down.

I don't think the MCU "wins" though. America gets wiped out before they can stop the invasion.

And let's face it. MCU alien invasions are shitty as hell. Plain stupid logistic wise and thewarfighting technology is stupid.

They used to chariot riding Dumbasses And stupid Slow moving wondering aimlessly around llevitating whales and then Thanos dropped a bunch of berserker ground troops and then a bunch of steamrolling deathballs that don't distinguish between friend and foe on the battlefield.

Thanos had the worst ****ing army ever tbh, And was one of the worst battlefield strategists in fiction period.

What I'm getting at was at least the avengers fought unintelligent armies with no real direction or leadership.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
And let's face it. MCU alien invasions are shitty as hell. Plain stupid logistic wise and thewarfighting technology is stupid.

They used to chariot riding Dumbasses And stupid Slow moving wondering aimlessly around llevitating whales and then Thanos dropped a bunch of berserker ground troops and then a bunch of steamrolling deathballs that don't distinguish between friend and foe on the battlefield.

Thanos had the worst ****ing army ever tbh, And was one of the worst battlefield strategists in fiction period.

What I'm getting at was at least the avengers fought unintelligent armies with no real direction or leadership.

While I agree, the Avengers movie only had a few MCU characters and they still won. The Thanos invasion had heavy hitters like Strange being taken out of the fight due to the distraction, Wanda doing nothing but solely going after Thanos, and Captain Marvel being a late comer.

All the MCU characters together would get the job done, but your right about the collateral damage.

Captain Marvel, Vision, Stormbreaker Thor, Scarlet Witch, and MAYBE Hulk and Iron Man (utilizing both himself and all of his remote-controlled suits) will be the only ones able to contribute noticeable damage to the ships and tripods, and they will have to work with precise coordination in order to do so. Captain America, Black Panther, Dr Strange, Winter Soldier, Ant Man, and the rest should be able to clear up the ground forces of the Battle LA and Battleship Aliens. The overall war will be won, but there absolutely will be collateral damage. If Goldblum could back into the Independence Day Aliens and a Marine squad was able to take down the Battle: LA Command and Control Center, the Avengers should be able to do so as well. IDK how the Avengers will take down the WotW, Skyline, and Battleship Aliens' shields, but I hypothesize that Captain Marvel's blasts, the Wizard's magic, Thor's lightning, and Wanda's physic abilities may be to effect or neutralize the shields, but it is debatable. To summarize, the Avengers win, but it will take time and there will be some unavailable collateral damage.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Captain Marvel, Vision, Stormbreaker Thor, Scarlet Witch, and MAYBE Hulk and Iron Man (utilizing both himself and all of his remote-controlled suits) will be the only ones able to contribute noticeable damage to the ships and tripods, and they will have to work with precise coordination in order to do so. Captain America, Black Panther, Dr Strange, Winter Soldier, Ant Man, and the rest should be able to clear up the ground forces of the Battle LA and Battleship Aliens. The overall war will be won, but there absolutely will be collateral damage. If Goldblum could back into the Independence Day Aliens and a Marine squad was able to take down the Battle: LA Command and Control Center, the Avengers should be able to do so as well. IDK how the Avengers will take down the WotW, Skyline, and Battleship Aliens' shields, but I hypothesize that Captain Marvel's blasts, the Wizard's magic, Thor's lightning, and Wanda's physic abilities may be to effect or neutralize the shields, but it is debatable. To summarize, the Avengers win, but it will take time and there will be some unavailable collateral damage.

I would think Wakanda tech could take out a good bit of the ships and tripods. Namor and Atlantis is also a factor.

Oh btw, its just MCU-Earth fighting, so everyone on Earth, not anyone in space or whatever.

Originally posted by Thinkerer
Oh btw, its just MCU-Earth fighting, so everyone on Earth, not anyone in space or whatever.

So no Captain Marvel or Guardians of the Galaxy. They can't win without Carol.

Do the Eternals factor into this? Also does Agents of SHIELD count, because if so, Graviton can change the tide of the fight heavily.

That particular someone will have to be Carol, which is why she is so essential to the battle. IDK if any of the other Avengers have close to a nuclear bomb-level output, and as you stated, they will need above that to penetrate UNLESS, as I noted before, the Avengers (aka Iron Man) can hack into the ID Mothership to shut off the shield like the film, and again as stated, if Goldblum could do it with 90's software, IM's software should definitely be able to do the trick.

They needed to be inside the mothership though, to hack it. And they werent half as busy as these guys will be. Also, the Harvester Queen and her armada are present in this fight.

People like the Eternals and Namor are included in this, they were already present, even though we didn't see them yet.

Didn't the Battleship have incredible shields too?

Is Graviton from AOS allowed in the fight, because would be a game changer.

Is that still canon, and if so, would he be present during phase 3?

Regular humans hacked the alien technology in Independence Day. I would think Stark, Wakanda, or the Vision could do that fairly easy.

Tony Stark and Rhodie could win this battle all by themselves. Tony is a million times smarter than Jeff goldblum. He'll figure out the shields, hell, he could potentially solo.

Strange and the magicians open portals and send the fleets to the sun.

Lol that too. The alien fleet has no chance here.

Nahhh...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Strange and the magicians open portals and send the fleets to the sun.

"Today on things that never happened"

Originally posted by Thinkerer
They needed to be inside the mothership though, to hack it. And they werent half as busy as these guys will be. Also, the Harvester Queen and her armada are present in this fight.

People like the Eternals and Namor are included in this, they were already present, even though we didn't see them yet.

Didn't the Battleship have incredible shields too?



The Wizards can use their sling rings to open portals into the Mothership, and Iron Man, Thor, Scarlet Witch, Vision, and Carol can take down the Mothership's guardian fighter jets while IM shuts down the shields which can then allow them to take down the big battleships. The portals might be able to get through the shields of the other ships as well. Besides the tripods, the ground forces of the aliens stand virtually no chance against the combined armies of the Avengers, Namor, and the Eternals. Against the tripods, the best strategy will be to sling ring past the shields and then have IM, Falcon, Thor and Carol spam them with explosives. They'll have to work quick though because those Heat-Rays are going to be tough to avoid and can potentially wipe out the MCU's ground forces en-masse unless the Wakandans and Wanda can erect a large enough shield which might be possible but is arguable.