Do parents who raise evil people go to hell when they die?

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Bashar Teg
If for example a mother raises a son who is a child molester and/or a kindergarten shooter. does she bear some blame in the afterlife, or is it all on her son? For this topic, let's assume that the mother's worst crime in this scenario was being a neglectful absentee parent.

Robtard
Going to say no.

They say that some child molesters were molested themselves (it's much higher with female abusers) and it's why they go on to do it. But that's no excuse, as people are responsible for their own actions.

Plenty of people had shitty abusive parents and shitty childhoods, but went on to be decent people who work and contribute to society.

Bashar Teg
Interesting...I disagree with the reasoning though. I think in cases where mothers first molested their little future-molesters, they would bear some divine blame. I don't see it as taking blame away from one in order to add to the other, but rather additional blame, for easily avoidable acts which caused predictable and horrible repercussions.


I think in such cases the entire lineage of molesters, no matter how long, would logically spend eternity in hell together. Just my "hot" take 🤪

Adam_PoE
It really depends on what framework you are using for your scenario. Some Christians believe in salvation by faith alone, others by works, and still others that salvation is predetermined by god. It is impossible to answer the question without knowing which Christian theology we are dealing with.

Bashar Teg
Right I forgot....it should be assumed that no repentance/salvation is involved in this scenario, and nobody feels a shred of guilt. I should have added that to the OP

Robtard
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Interesting...I disagree with the reasoning though. I think in cases where mothers first molested their little future-molesters, they would bear some divine blame. I don't see it as taking blame away from one in order to add to the other, but rather additional blame, for easily avoidable acts which caused predictable and horrible repercussions.


I think in such cases the entire lineage of molesters, no matter how long, would logically spend eternity in hell together. Just my "hot" take 🤪

If the parents are molesters too, then they're responsible for their own acts.

Robtard
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Right I forgot....it should be assumed that no repentance/salvation is involved in this scenario, and nobody feels a shred of guilt. I should have added that to the OP

The thing about Rightwing religious people, they tend to believe they're personally exempt from the same religious rules and standards they pretend to live by and try to force others to live by.

In the US alone, how many times have you read a story about a Rightwing Christian stealing money, especially from the less fortunate, having gay sex in a truck stop, serial cheating on their spouse, being a sexual predator, being married and having gay sex, and/or molesting a child and they "forgive themselves", so it's all cool. It's not anecdotal.

FalconPaunch!
Originally posted by Robtard
The thing about Rightwing religious people, they tend to believe they're personally exempt from the same religious rules and standards they pretend to live by and try to force others to live by.

In the US alone, how many times have you read a story about a Rightwing Christian stealing money, especially from the less fortunate, having gay sex in a truck stop, serial cheating on their spouse, being a sexual predator, being married and having gay sex, and/or molesting a child and they "forgive themselves", so it's all cool. It's not anecdotal. Because all religions are just methods of bullshit to get children and young adults to obey through fear and ignorance, and as a trump card, sympathy and playing the victim. Phrases like "this it how it is" or "What has happened has happened and we cannot change that."

It's cruel and against my philosophy of seeking opportunity.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
Because all religions are just methods of bullshit to get children and young adults to obey through fear and ignorance, and as a trump card, sympathy and playing the victim. Phrases like "this it how it is" or "What has happened has happened and we cannot change that."

It's cruel and against my philosophy of seeking opportunity.


Ironic coming from the guy brainwashed by right wing youtubers and hate mongers like Tommy Robinson.

FalconPaunch!
I don't watch videos by Tommy Robinson; I think he's in jail...

Stoic
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
If for example a mother raises a son who is a child molester and/or a kindergarten shooter. does she bear some blame in the afterlife, or is it all on her son? For this topic, let's assume that the mother's worst crime in this scenario was being a neglectful absentee parent.

No. The parents will not be held responsible for the choices that their offspring commit nor will the child be held responsible for the sins of their parents.

Stoic
Originally posted by Robtard
The thing about Rightwing religious people, they tend to believe they're personally exempt from the same religious rules and standards they pretend to live by and try to force others to live by.

In the US alone, how many times have you read a story about a Rightwing Christian stealing money, especially from the less fortunate, having gay sex in a truck stop, serial cheating on their spouse, being a sexual predator, being married and having gay sex, and/or molesting a child and they "forgive themselves", so it's all cool. It's not anecdotal.

According to the Bible, no one is good as God defines good. This means that any Christian worth their weight in salt knows that no one makes it to Heaven due to their own good works because we have all fallen short of what God sees as perfect. The Bible also tells us without faith no one will ever see a glorious after life. What this means is that you can know scripture better than Pastors that have been reading the Bible for decades and not make it due to lack of faith, or/and understanding. The Bible even says that the work that we do with our hands are like filthy rags before a holy God. A whole lot of those guys in the Bible were not actually Holy, they were just asked to have faith.

Robtard
So do whatever you like, just have faith. Got it. I don't think that's what religion is all about though. So disagreed.

But your post has nothing to do with my point about: "Rightwing religious people, they tend to believe they're personally exempt from the same religious rules and standards they pretend to live by and try to force others to live by."

FalconPaunch!
Originally posted by Robtard
So do whatever you like, just have faith. Got it. I don't think that's what religion is all about though. So disagreed.

But your post has nothing to do with my point about: "Rightwing religious people, they tend to believe they're personally exempt from the same religious rules and standards they pretend to live by and try to force others to live by." That's all religions. no expression

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