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this is the team, can you do it

hyperion, hulk, sentry, thor


you can pick 4 out of these guys

Middle
Abra Kadabra, Alexander Nero, Apocalypse, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Battle Beast, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Bizarro Superman, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Blue Marvel, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Captain Marvel (DC), Cassandra Nova, Cheetah, Citizen Steel, Conquest, Count Nefaria, Damage, Damien Hellstrom, Dr. Doom, Eradicator (non-Fortress Mode), Etrigan, Evinlea, The Fallen One, The General (Shaggy Man), Gladiator, Graviton, Grayven, Green Lanterns (Guy Gardner, Icon (Milestone), Jessica Cruz, John Stewart, Katma, Kilowog, Simon Baz, Sodam Yat), Hulk, Hyperion, Invincible, Juggernaut (Classic), Kang, Kid Omega, Kurse, Lobo, Loki, Maestro, Magneto (616), Magus (Post-IG), Manchester Black, Mantis (New God), Martian Manhunter, Mon-El, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Spectrum), Moonstone (w/ both stones), Morg, Nate Grey, O.M.A.C., Omni-Man, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sersi, Shadowman, Shaman, Skreet, Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris), Stardust, Supergirl, Supreme (original), Ultron, Void (Wildstorm, no Creation Engine power), White Martians, Wildfire, Witchfire (Demon Form)


how goes it

Black Adam, Beta Ray Bill, Cassandra Nova, and Full Power Cable.

Black Adam and BRB distract your Team for a few seconds while Cassandra and Cable vaporize their minds with a psi blast so powerful they won't know what hit them.

Or add White Martians on top instead of Cable, and add Lobo instead of another brick, just to get thousands of Lobos.

Doom
Cassandra Nova
Zemo w/ Moonstones
Gladiator

I can't lose.

Originally posted by MrMind
this is the team, can you do it

hyperion, hulk, sentry, thor


you can pick 4 out of these guys

Middle
Abra Kadabra, Alexander Nero, Apocalypse, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Battle Beast, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Bizarro Superman, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Blue Marvel, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Captain Marvel (DC), Cassandra Nova, Cheetah, Citizen Steel, Conquest, Count Nefaria, Damage, Damien Hellstrom, Dr. Doom, Eradicator (non-Fortress Mode), Etrigan, Evinlea, The Fallen One, The General (Shaggy Man), Gladiator, Graviton, Grayven, Green Lanterns (Guy Gardner, Icon (Milestone), Jessica Cruz, John Stewart, Katma, Kilowog, Simon Baz, Sodam Yat), Hulk, Hyperion, Invincible, Juggernaut (Classic), Kang, Kid Omega, Kurse, Lobo, Loki, Maestro, Magneto (616), Magus (Post-IG), Manchester Black, Mantis (New God), Martian Manhunter, Mon-El, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Spectrum), Moonstone (w/ both stones), Morg, Nate Grey, O.M.A.C., Omni-Man, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sersi, Shadowman, Shaman, Skreet, Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris), Stardust, Supergirl, Supreme (original), Ultron, Void (Wildstorm, no Creation Engine power), White Martians, Wildfire, Witchfire (Demon Form)


how goes it

Captain Atom soloes

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Captain Atom soloes

he can end everyone on the list with a single handwave

That recent Cap Atom feat is from an alternate version right?

Because if not, then yeah he just waves his hand and every character listed the entire KMC Tiers thread just ceases to exist. Literally lol.

Originally posted by Infinaut616
That recent Cap Atom feat is from an alternate version right? i think so? but the black label stuff is on a case by case basis when it comes to fitting into the main continuity. some are canon, some aren't.

That mid Herald list is all jacked up.

Originally posted by carver9
That mid Herald list is all jacked up.

was probably just how the original list was formatted, but no one ever got around to revising it.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
the black label stuff is on a case by case basis when it comes to fitting into the main continuity. some are canon, some aren't. Pretty much. There was a whole spiel in The Sandman Universe Presents: Hellblazer (Black Label) about how continuity doesn't really mean anything, which I found amusing:
https://i.ibb.co/sp2Ft5Pg/The-Sandman-Universe-Presents-Hellblazer-001-015.jpg https://i.ibb.co/TMMFXTVm/The-Sandman-Universe-Presents-Hellblazer-001-022.jpg
"You'd go mad --well, madder-- trying to decide what counts and what doesn't, what's real and what's not. When the only question worth asking is: what matters, right now?"

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
was probably just how the original list was formatted, but no one ever got around to revising it. Yep. The tiers thread lost interest/traction, so no changes have been made to the list in years.

It can always be revised, though.

You can tell, because quite a few of those characters could be moved up on the list. Off the top of my head, Zemo w. Moonstones and Gladiator for sure. An argument could also be made for Black Adam, Shazam, Eradicator, and John Stewart.

And obviously if that new Captain Atom feat is canon at all, he just needs to be off the list completely.

I agree. And there's people on that list that also have FAR better fts than the people you've named.

Originally posted by Galan007
It can always be revised, though.

I would rather just ***** about things and make coy snide comments, rather than attempt to change, though

Originally posted by Galan007
Yep.

I don't see any reason in changing it, tbh. I think people here are knowledgeable enough to know most of these characters operate above Mid Herald tiering.

That's true. Most people already go in knowing what's what. It's just in threads like this where the entire tiers list is part of the scenario where you might run into some confusion.