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Who's taking this? No BFR.

Originally posted by carver9

At the end of the day, the small showings Zod have puts him above a standard Superman. An all out Superman, they are probably equals.

Zod 8/10

What if WW could defeat an all out Superman?

WW defeats Zod and she can beat Superman as well.

If WW can react to and keep up with Superman's top speed, she wins. Otherwise, she gets stomped.
The debate should focus on comparing their battle speed.

Zod stomps.

It depends on where the fight takes place. If Zod forces the fight to take place in the sky, ocean, or space, he wins about 6.5/10. If Diana forced the fight to take place in a gladiatorial setting with feet planted on the ground, Diana takes it 6/10.

Originally posted by carver9
WW defeats Zod and she can beat Superman as well. "can" is quite different than "does"

Zod beats the crap out of her

Originally posted by Smurph
"can" is quite different than "does"

It's Carver. Think he knows?

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Anyway, Zod wins this.

WW holds every single advantage except strength and durability, and she has the weapons to easily bypass his durability.

Originally posted by carver9
WW holds every single advantage except strength and durability, and she has the weapons to easily bypass his durability.

Mongul IS faster than Diana, confirmed by Batman.

https://i.ibb.co/F402gh9C/Oi-T2dd-NFKIp-YPCF1-QT1fm3-FLzh-DXj9k9-IYNf5z9-KZnk5-E5-TFItbd-X9-Zs-Vo-HUZLHWk6vmey-Kiextc-s1600-rh.jpg https://i.ibb.co/bjxqPmV8/bxe-Gz-T8aw-Hn-HDTmbupp-Yg-Vppe-Ru-YRz-GCv-HG9-DAJy-Oys-B-9-CE5-CY4n-e-Aek-X-3vp6-gd-YROo-Hu2y-P-s16.jpg

Zod literally made Mongul look like a statue.

https://i.redd.it/vqzfgkfafr051.jpg

Originally posted by Smurph
Abhi, ODG, try to not shut this one down too.

Will be keeping a close eye on this.

Gd it I had a whole post about different sorts of phaggots.

This topic can't be killed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mongul IS faster than Diana, confirmed by Batman.

https://i.ibb.co/F402gh9C/Oi-T2dd-NFKIp-YPCF1-QT1fm3-FLzh-DXj9k9-IYNf5z9-KZnk5-E5-TFItbd-X9-Zs-Vo-HUZLHWk6vmey-Kiextc-s1600-rh.jpg https://i.ibb.co/bjxqPmV8/bxe-Gz-T8aw-Hn-HDTmbupp-Yg-Vppe-Ru-YRz-GCv-HG9-DAJy-Oys-B-9-CE5-CY4n-e-Aek-X-3vp6-gd-YROo-Hu2y-P-s16.jpg

Zod literally made Mongul look like a statue.

https://i.redd.it/vqzfgkfafr051.jpg

Okay, we can use this statement, but it conflicts wildly with DC squarely placing Diana in the upper tier of DC speedsters. I think that due to dramatization purposes Mongul outpaces her to the target. Not that he is outright faster than she is Diana is more agile and faster than Mongul according to where she ranks in speed across the DC board. Her combat speed takes a ridiculous dump on his as well.

This just means you give the win to WW because of 'her tiering'. Which is always iffy.

Wonder Woman fought Damage for an entire hour... someone that overloaded Parasite (something that even the Supers can't do) and he wasn't even in full transformation when it happened. She also handled Damage hits better than most. This alone gives her the edge imo.

Originally posted by carver9
Wonder Woman fought Damage for an entire hour... someone that overloaded Parasite (something that even the Supers can't do) and he wasn't even in full transformation when it happened. She also handled Damage hits better than most. This alone gives her the edge imo.
Batman handled him better than she did.

Congorilla straight up took Damage out.
Would Congorilla beat WW then?

Originally posted by carver9
Wonder Woman fought Damage for an entire hour... someone that overloaded Parasite (something that even the Supers can't do) and he wasn't even in full transformation when it happened. She also handled Damage hits better than most. This alone gives her the edge imo.
Congorilla and Poison Ivy would beat her by that logic.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman handled him better than she did.

Congorilla straight up took Damage out.
Would Congorilla beat WW then?

Wasn't this after Damage was drugged up?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Congorilla and Poison Ivy would beat her by that logic.

Didn't Zod have a one on one with Killer Croc?

Originally posted by carver9
Wasn't this after Damage was drugged up? which time? Also where are your Hercules scans, your Daredevil scans?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
which time? Also where are your Hercules scans, your Daredevil scans?

When Batman fought him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope, Mongul is faster as confirmed by Batman. Zod is even faster.
Tbf, didn't Batman also confirm that WW had faster reflexes than Supes?

He won't accept that, lol.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Tbf, didn't Batman also confirm that WW had faster reflexes than Supes?
This is the latest example as you say it, Superman>Mongul>Wonder Woman.

You're aware of the term retcon I guess. Originally posted by carver9
He won't accept that, lol.
Newer showings take precedence, don't they? You've said that yourself.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This is the latest example as you say it, Superman>Mongul>Wonder Woman.

You're aware of the term retcon I guess.
Newer showings take precedence, don't they? You've said that yourself.
Except it looked like there was a distance to be closed with Mongul. Both WW and Batman noted that Supes is faster in travel speed but specifically distinguished it for what they were talking about. So Mongul(or Supes) could reach the guy first to attack but still have slower reflexes than Diana. That's not a recton.

Originally posted by carver9
When Batman fought him.
So not when Congorilla KOd him, then?

So where are the Herc scans, the Daredevil scans, the Elektra scans?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Except it looked like there was a distance to be closed with Mongul. Both WW and Batman noted that Supes is faster in travel speed but specifically distinguished it for what they were talking about. So Mongul(or Supes) could reach the guy first to attack but still have slower reflexes than Diana. That's not a recton.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A BIG OOOOOOF.

https://i.postimg.cc/6q88h1V1/29.jpg

"Lead does not fly like rubber. If you miss, the bullets will tear you. I do not have Clark's power - I cannot outrun them".

Edit:
Also I think you're confusing the speed that derived from training with reflexes speed.
Diana is faster simply because she is more skilled, doesn't mean in "raw speed"(as the comic used the term) she is faster. I.E, if a thing, which both of them don't have experience, suddenly happens, Diana actually won't necessarily react faster than Superman.

The same way she has an advantage in a running race(which Superman is still listed higher than her), it's not because her reaction/movement speed is faster, it's just because she knows some skills to help her running
https://ibb.co/G9kZgHX

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Edit:
Also I think you're confusing the speed that derived from training with reflexes speed.
Diana is faster simply because she is more skilled, doesn't mean in "raw speed"(as the comic used the term) she is faster. I.E, if a thing, which both of them don't have experience, suddenly happens, Diana actually won't necessarily react faster than Superman.

The same way she has an advantage in a running race(which Superman is still listed higher than her), it's not because her reaction/movement speed is faster, it's just because she knows some skills to help her running
https://ibb.co/G9kZgHX

🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

https://i.ibb.co/GvqyRsCT/irTCySo.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/cnndRQL/bMdh9ZV.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

https://i.ibb.co/GvqyRsCT/irTCySo.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/cnndRQL/bMdh9ZV.jpg
Did you read the comic, Carver?
Superman was in the palace, and Equus was on a desert. It's a very long distance compared to Diana and Trinity.
Diana and Trinity only are like...meters away?
I mean you can even read in your own scans that Superman is faster than a speeding bullets
https://ibb.co/VYnpRMPT
https://ibb.co/nsVq7QhH
https://ibb.co/1Yt9cPPQ
https://ibb.co/XZt3bVJB
https://ibb.co/yBSzSSpR

Edit:
Here is the distance between Diana and Trinity, as you can see, it's significant shorter than Superman's scans
Equus didn't fire the bullets, like, just in front of Superman
https://ibb.co/7dFP480H

Originally posted by darthgoober
Except it looked like there was a distance to be closed with Mongul. Both WW and Batman noted that Supes is faster in travel speed but specifically distinguished it for what they were talking about. So Mongul(or Supes) could reach the guy first to attack but still have slower reflexes than Diana. That's not a recton.
How's Batman saying Mongul is faster than Wonder Woman when Superman runs circles all over Mongul even depowered not a retcon? Mongul is probably slowest Superman brute villain and he's STILL faster than Diana.

Originally posted by carver9
🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

https://i.ibb.co/GvqyRsCT/irTCySo.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/cnndRQL/bMdh9ZV.jpg
He's literally a country away when the bullets are fired and he almost catches them. The fact that you think this is a bad showing tells how retarded you are.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Did you read the comic, Carver?
Superman was in the palace, and Equus was on a desert. It's a very long distance compared to Diana and Trinity.
Diana and Trinity only are like...meters away?
I mean you can even read in your own scans that Superman is faster than a speeding bullets
https://ibb.co/VYnpRMPT
https://ibb.co/nsVq7QhH
https://ibb.co/1Yt9cPPQ
https://ibb.co/XZt3bVJB
https://ibb.co/yBSzSSpR

Edit:
Here is the distance between Diana and Trinity, as you can see, it's significant shorter than Superman's scans
Equus didn't fire the bullets, like, just in front of Superman
https://ibb.co/7dFP480H
Also there is probably a closer comparison to Diana's scene
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/shootandcatch1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/shootandcatch2.jpg

Superman catching bullets is so ubiquitous that you won't even find one in respect threads unless it has some conditions (he's weakened, very far away etc).

Originally posted by abhilegend
How's Batman saying Mongul is faster than Wonder Woman when Superman runs circles all over Mongul even depowered not a retcon? Mongul is probably slowest Superman brute villain and he's STILL faster than Diana.
I just told you how. Mongul beat WWs travel speed to the target just as Batman suggested Supes would, but that doesn't contradict the distinction he made between travel speed and reflexes. I believe the comparison he made was Usain Bolt and some boxer if I'm remembering correctly

Originally posted by abhilegend
He's literally a country away when the bullets are fired and he almost catches them. The fact that you think this is a bad showing tells how retarded you are.

Hes literally right there while the bullets are being shot.

Originally posted by carver9
Hes literally right there while the bullets are being shot.
No, the full scene is Superman in a palace, and Equus fired his gun(hence the onomatopoeia), Superman *then* left the palace, and flied all the way to a desert where Equus was. The distance between Equus and Superman certainly wasn't *right there*
https://ibb.co/VYnpRMPT
https://ibb.co/nsVq7QhH
https://ibb.co/1Yt9cPPQ
https://ibb.co/XZt3bVJB
https://ibb.co/yBSzSSpR

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
No, the full scene is Superman in a palace, and Equus fired his gun(hence the onomatopoeia), Superman *then* left the palace, and flied all the way to a desert where Equus was. The distance between Equus and Superman certainly wasn't *right there*
https://ibb.co/VYnpRMPT
https://ibb.co/nsVq7QhH
https://ibb.co/1Yt9cPPQ
https://ibb.co/XZt3bVJB
https://ibb.co/yBSzSSpR

He wasn't a country away, and any true speedster would've caught this.

Originally posted by carver9
He wasn't a country away, and any true speedster would've caught this.
So he wasn't right there, at this point we can agree?
On the other hand, Diana's scene is she and Trinity just in front with each other
https://ibb.co/7dFP480H

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
which time? Also where are your Hercules scans, your Daredevil scans?

Looks like I've found yet another sore point for Carvy to ignore don't worry Carv, I'll keep bringing it up, you know I will

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So he wasn't right there, at this point we can agree?
On the other hand, Diana's scene is she and Trinity just in front with each other
https://ibb.co/7dFP480H

Isn't that young Wonder Woman? In the same book iirc, they had her doing this? Is this correct?


https://i.ibb.co/bRqDDn8S/tumblr-debd5ca74798e83166350fce9b6ed304-048ca338-1280.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Looks like I've found yet another sore point for Carvy to ignore don't worry Carv, I'll keep bringing it up, you know I will

Hercules seeing bullets at almost a halt>>>>seeing humans at a standstill.

Originally posted by carver9
Hercules seeing bullets at almost a halt>>>>seeing humans at a standstill.

Why?

Also, when did Herc see them at almost a halt? Scans.

Where are your scans of Daredevil outrunning bullets with a 100m headstart?

Originally posted by carver9
Isn't that young Wondwr Woman?
It isn't young Wonder Woman, it is literally after Diana had Trinity/her daughter, and Trinity was created by Diana in the present time
Trinity is the girl who hasn't black hair BTW

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why?

Also, when did Herc see them at almost a halt? Scans.

Where are your scans of Daredevil outrunning bullets with a 100m headstart?

He states time has slowed. We see the bullets basically at a halt.

Carver hasn't read the comic, he only skim reads respect threads and the random pages we post.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
It isn't young Wonder Woman, it is literally after Diana had Trinity/her daughter, and Trinity was created by Diana in the present time
Trinity is the girl who hasn't black hair BTW

We agree that Diana slapped bullets out of the sky in the same book?

Originally posted by carver9
He states time has slowed. We see the bullets basically at a halt. oh dear god.

It's a picture. Things are frozen in pictures, you absolute idiot

Where's your scan of Daredevil?

Originally posted by carver9
We agree that Diana slapped bullets out of the sky in the same book?
Does this contradict the statement that Diana can't outrun bullets like Superman?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver hasn't read the comic, he only skim reads respect threads and the random pages we post.

You are right (these are some of the comics I currently have up).

https://ibb.co/hxDhRqQt
https://ibb.co/nqBCdp9v
https://ibb.co/0RStkkbC

Dark always knows what he is talking about.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
oh dear god.

It's a picture. Things are frozen in pictures, you absolute idiot

Where's your scan of Daredevil?

The circles around the bullets along with the still lines is an indication that the bullets are not accelerating per Hercules. Dark, do you look like how you act? I'm curious. Post a pic

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Does this contradict the statement that Diana can't outrun bullets like Superman?

For someone that can have thwir hands over their eyes and still block machine gun bullets, I think she can...

https://i.ibb.co/gMY6cRcS/Screenshot-20250415-170639-Samsung-Internet.png
https://i.ibb.co/5W3k7VTh/Screenshot-20250415-170655-Samsung-Internet.png

Originally posted by carver9
For someone that can have thwir hands over their eyes and still block machine gun bullets, I think she can...

https://i.ibb.co/gMY6cRcS/Screenshot-20250415-170639-Samsung-Internet.png
https://i.ibb.co/5W3k7VTh/Screenshot-20250415-170655-Samsung-Internet.png

This has been explained to you
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, aim blocking.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VLbn6wMGoVY/VnfY5LH9nhI/AAAAAAAABEk/9r2-xso5kSQ/s1600-Ic42/RCO002.jpg

Read and weep.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And that chimes with MacDuffie, actually. She's not actually that fast - she's skilled, and practiced, like Bruce Lee.
So yeah, Diana seems only has the advantage of skills. She isn't really fast, not in raw speed.
She just can use her skills to "cheat" in some categories, like she doesn't need to be faster than bullets, she just aim-blocking

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
This has been explained to you


So yeah, Diana seems only has the advantage of skills. She isn't really fast, not in raw speed.
She just can use her skills to "cheat" in some categories, like she doesn't need to be faster than bullets, she just aim-blocking

And this goes back to what was mentioned. If we can accept this, why can't we accept WW being faster than Superman? It was said by one of the most intelligent beings in DC.

Originally posted by carver9
And this goes back to what was mentioned. If we can accept this, why can't we accept WW being faster than Superman? It was said by one of the most intelligent beings in DC.
Because, like it explained to you many times before, the scan you're referring really doesn't necessarily mean Diana is faster in terms of pure speed

It's just she is more skilled, so she can "cheat" in some areas.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Because, like it explained to you many times before, the scan you're referring really doesn't necessarily mean Diana is faster in terms of pure speed

It's just she is more skilled, so she can "cheat" in some areas.

Ironfist is more skilled as well. Is he faster than Superman?

Originally posted by darthgoober
I just told you how. Mongul beat WWs travel speed to the target just as Batman suggested Supes would, but that doesn't contradict the distinction he made between travel speed and reflexes. I believe the comparison he made was Usain Bolt and some boxer if I'm remembering correctly


She's slower than Mongul in speed but somehow faster than Superman in reflexes?

Originally posted by abhilegend


She's slower than Mongul in speed but somehow faster than Superman in reflexes?


According to Batman...

So sounds like Batman was wrong. Ah well. Nice Originally posted by carver9
The circles around the bullets along with the still lines is an indication that the bullets are not accelerating per Hercules. Dark, do you look like how you act? I'm curious. Post a pic

Wow you are an idiot

So as per you, you're saying the bullets are frozen in midair?

Originally posted by darthgoober
According to Batman...
Batman can be wrong. Mongul decidedly showed he's faster than Wonder Woman. End of discussion.

Originally posted by carver9
Ironfist is more skilled as well. Is he faster than Superman?
What?
Like I said before, precisely it's because skilled can "cheat" in some situations that require speed, so Diana isn't really faster than Kal-El, not in raw speed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So sounds like Batman was wrong. Ah well. Nice

Wow you are an idiot

So as per you, you're saying the bullets are frozen in midair?

I'm saying the bullets is frozen per Hercules perception. Cut your brain on and stop twisting sh**. Let me see that pic, Dark.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
What?
Like I said before, precisely it's because skilled can "cheat" in some situations that require speed, so Diana isn't really faster than Kal-El, not in raw speed.

She is faster.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Batman can be wrong. Mongul decidedly showed he's faster than Wonder Woman. End of discussion.

Wasn't the only time it was said she is faster than Clark.

Originally posted by carver9
She is faster.
Not according to many instances, by feats or statements
we have Superman being specifically stated to be faster than Wonder Woman in the official speed-rankings:
https://ibb.co/G9kZgHX

We have Superman explicitly shown in a direct speed comparison to be faster in sparring:
https://ibb.co/8cCnBnJ

We have a serious Wonder Woman armed to the teeth being explicitly shown in direct, back to back same moves, as significantly slower than a very casual Superman:
https://ibb.co/zfP717d
https://ibb.co/BLMpx2W
https://ibb.co/Vp60Ch9
https://ibb.co/bQ4F4VW

Him and Barry race and leave Wonder Woman and Hal in the dust
https://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supebarryfastestheroes1.jpg
https://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supebarryfastestheroes2.jpg
https://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supebarryfastestheroes3.jpg

And recently, we have she explicitly she isn't as fast as Clark
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A BIG OOOOOOF.

https://i.postimg.cc/6q88h1V1/29.jpg

"Lead does not fly like rubber. If you miss, the bullets will tear you. I do not have Clark's power - I cannot outrun them".

Originally posted by carver9
Wasn't the only time it was said she is faster than Clark.
I guess you're going to post the same shit as her saying she's faster than Superman against Amazo? Predictable.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Batman can be wrong. Mongul decidedly showed he's faster than Wonder Woman. End of discussion.
Do you have any inducation that Mongul landing the shot first was a result of him being faster rather than because he was closer other than Batman's statement since Batman can be wrong?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Do you have any inducation that Mongul landing the shot first was a result of him being faster rather than because he was closer other than Batman's statement since Batman can be wrong?
Do you have any indication that Batman saying Diana is faster than Superman is based on any actual evidence? At least Mongul was shown faster in action, all Diana has is a statement.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you have any indication that Batman saying Diana is faster than Superman is based on any actual evidence? At least Mongul was shown faster in action, all Diana has is a statement.
He's Batman... yeah I generally feel he's studied up when he makes a definitive statement so I feel like he's probably seen evidence.

Originally posted by darthgoober
He's Batman... yeah I generally feel he's studied up when he makes a definitive statement so I feel like he's probably seen evidence.
So how's Mongul actually showing faster than Wonder Woman being scrutinised but not Wonder Woman being faster than Superman? Can it be that you're simply biased?

Gasp, no it can't be.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So how's Mongul actually showing faster than Wonder Woman being scrutinised but not Wonder Woman being faster than Superman? Can it be that you're simply biased?

Gasp, no it can't be.
What are you talking about, WW/Supes has been scrutinized extensively. First you acted like Batman wasn't a credible source(before Mongul), then you acted like he was a credible source but said there was a recton, then you said Batman can be wrong... but only about WW/Supes. Keep on accusing others of bias

A guy can be wrong about something but it doesn't mean he can't be right on another thing, though

Edit

Were those the long-promised scans

Can't see Zod fighting like an out of control Superman (even if he did KO WW). Plus, his durability/damage soak looks better than Superman's, especially against piercing damage (when he fought with half of his head missing, or when he was fighting with a magical sword through his chest), anyway. Carver, is this the lifeline you want to cling to?

Originally posted by darthgoober
What are you talking about, WW/Supes has been scrutinized extensively. First you acted like Batman wasn't a credible source(before Mongul), then you acted like he was a credible source but said there was a recton, then you said Batman can be wrong... but only about WW/Supes. Keep on accusing others of bias

Are you drunk or something? What are you babbling about? I simply asked you why you are scrutinising Batman's statement about Mongul (which you did) but not about Wonder Woman (which you didn't) in this very thread.

Do you want me to spell it out further?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you drunk or something? What are you babbling about? I simply asked you why you are scrutinising Batman's statement about Mongul (which you did) but not about Wonder Woman (which you didn't) in this very thread.

Do you want me to spell it out further?
I'm talking about your flip floppy nature in regards to any showing that DOESN'T somehow elevate Supes. I don't actually have an issue with Mongul. I take everything in comics with a grain of salt(both statements) anyway. And aside from that there's no contradiction since Batman made the distinction between travel speed and refex speed when he was talking to Supes and there was travel speed involved with Mongul.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm talking about your flip floppy nature in regards to any showing that DOESN'T somehow elevate Supes. I don't actually have an issue with Mongul. I take everything in comics with a grain of salt(both statements) anyway. And aside from that there's no contradiction since Batman made the distinction between travel speed and refex speed when he was talking to Supes and there was travel speed involved with Mongul.
Why are you lying so blatantly dude? Of course you have a problem with the Mongul scene as per your own post one page away.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Do you have any inducation that Mongul landing the shot first was a result of him being faster rather than because he was closer other than Batman's statement since Batman can be wrong?

When pointed out that all Diana has is a statement just like that, you responded with this post that Batman must have some evidence even though there's none.

Originally posted by darthgoober
He's Batman... yeah I generally feel he's studied up when he makes a definitive statement so I feel like he's probably seen evidence.

Who are you trying to fool here?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why are you lying so blatantly dude? Of course you have a problem with the Mongul scene as per your own post one page away.



When pointed out that all Diana has is a statement just like that, you responded with this post that Batman must have some evidence even though there's none.



Who are you trying to fool here?
Of course... it's always everyone else who's lying Abhi... it's never you... and Supes is the best ever at everything.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Of course... it's always everyone else who's lying Abhi... it's never you... and Supes is the best ever at everything.
Again, who are you trying to fool here? The posts are right there for everyone to see.

Originally posted by Smurph
Since the previous thread was closed. Abhi, ODG, try to not shut this one down too.

Who's taking this? No BFR. DC published a storyline showing a holding back Wonder Woman defeating a bloodlusted Superman.

Yes, Superman thought he was fighting Doomsday.

That actually should elevate Wonder Woman's performance because Superman would never attack Diana as fiercely as Doomsday but too many people are catastrophically butthurt over what actually happened on-panel to even acknowledge the obvious implications.

Insert Zod into Diana's position during Sacrifice. Or insert Zod into Superman's position.

Ya'll going to argue Zod performs better? Ok, mang, I haven't read every single DC comic and will never pretend that I have done so. So post the comics that prove such an assertion.

Originally posted by ODG
DC published a storyline showing a holding back Wonder Woman defeating a bloodlusted Superman.

Yes, Superman thought he was fighting Doomsday.

That actually should elevate Wonder Woman's performance because Superman would never attack Diana as fiercely as Doomsday but too many people are catastrophically butthurt over what actually happened on-panel to even acknowledge the obvious implications.

Insert Zod into Diana's position during Sacrifice. Or insert Zod into Superman's position.

Ya'll going to argue Zod performs better? Ok, mang, I haven't read every single DC comic and will never pretend that I have done so. So post the comics that prove such an assertion.
Still peddling the same BS after getting absolutely destroyed.