Hitler/Voldemort

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Phoenix
anyone else notice the startling similarities between hitler and voldemort? both want a pure race, neither are pure themselves, both did mass killing, both even look vaguely similar (dark hair and eyes) . what d'you think? who else do people in the books remind you of?

Lupin
smile lol

JaquesLeFrog
Seems likely.

brookealicious6
Not really. You have made some similarities. But they are completely different characters/people (w/e). Voldemort is a wimp. Afraid of Dumbledore! Ha...I just don't....nvm... I'm confused...lol.
I just think Hitler was crazy. Voldemort is just....I don't know how to explain it. LOL....well that was a waste of time

Mr.Nobody
Voldemorts's Death Eaters to Hitler's Nazi Regime...?

DeNiro
but hitler was incredibly clever though rather then voldermort hitler never killed a singel person he brain washed millions of people to do his dirty work for him unlike Voldemort goes house to house seeing who is on his sdie and kills them himself if they werent. but there are simalirties to the two hitler and voldemort start off as good people then turn into crazy killing machines.

Phoenix
yeh, i didnt say IDENTICAL peeps, i just said similar! teehee...

frootlooplucy
hitler and voldemort? hmm. interesting.
i think theres lotsa similarities to lotr... well, lots of ppl do. i KNOW lotr isnt real... im constantly being told that. but there are similarities.

hpluva14
actually there is alot of simalarities

robincooper
i see what your saying and i do aggre because hitler did mess with the occult in wwII in the book 'strange conflict' it explains thet the nazi emblem based on an anchient pagen symbol for white magic is inverted to mean black magic.

brookealicious6
LOL...guess I should know a bit more about Hitler before I say anything else...lol...sorry smile

robincooper
actually if you think about it it was about 50 years before voldemorts
time... + i know a lot coz i watch the discovery channel! cool smokin'

danradclifeluva
lol

Cass
Hitler was dark haired and had a Jewish mother he was very fond of, yethe wanted to exterminate all but his "perfect race": blond hair, blue eyed germans, definitely not Jewish. Voldemort is a mudblood, but seeks to eliminate all of those not purebloods. I'd say there are some striking similarities to the two, even beyond that.

danradclifeluva
i agree

robincooper
he also was crazy of finding religous artifacts, the grail, the ark of the covenant Eeven tried to find atlantis the fool. All those things which sorta reminded me of the quest to try and get the philosophers stone that creates the elixr of life that makes the drinker imortal and then in the 5th book the quest for the prophecy.

SEE SIMILARITIES!

airangel429
They are alot similiar and in an interview before the 4th book released JK even said that Voldemort reminded her of hitler. The news people had asked her if she can relate any of her characters to anywhere else and she said him and the whole thing that one of the school teachers acted like one of her teachers that she had in school. She wouldn't say which one though. I have done alot of reading up on her lately.

mina.harker
yeah, i agree too. there is a line where the similarities stop (the magic) and they start to grow apart, like where hitler got people to do his dirty work, whereas voldemort got his hands dirty. i think the whole pure blood thing probably comes from hitler himself(the ideas of jk) and its kind of scary that there are humans like voldemort.

danradclifeluva
ya i agree

Horst wessel
A question

If voldemort is as evil and powerful the wizards say he is, then why did he not use his power to control the muggles and be an evil dictator like hitler?
but its a childrens story, not a biography on hitler isnt it?

unibrow
wizards are way stronger than muggles and voldemort despises them...hitler actually brainwashed jews to kill eachother and then killed them afterwards so i guess that could work....but i doubt she would make him do that

Horst wessel
But if voldemort was truelly evil, he would brainwash masses of people to do his filthy work!

and he would not keep using magic for torture and everything! the subsitutes for magical torture and things can be more painful and take longer, so you can keep using it until they brake under the strain!! Then it will be even easier to have the victims brainwashed!

I'm not saying for voldemort to stop useing magic, I'm just saying there are alternatives to his evil ways

nadiddijaa
i think they are pretty much the same... but what about hitlers father does he hav any similarities with voldemorts father?

unibrow
both voldemort and hitler killed their fathers

Phoenix
anyone else notice the startling similarities between hitler and voldemort? both want a pure race, neither are pure themselves, both did mass killing, both even look vaguely similar (dark hair and eyes) . what d'you think? who else do people in the books remind you of?

Phoenix
voldies death eaters and hitlers SS/SA

Phoenix
Hitler was dark haired and had a Jewish mother he was very fond of, yethe wanted to exterminate all but his "perfect race": blond hair, blue eyed germans, definitely not Jewish. Voldemort is a mudblood, but seeks to eliminate all of those not purebloods.

Phoenix
both voldemort and hitler killed their fathers

nazgulinthedark
hitler:
war aganist him (WWII)
voldermort:
all of minisry of mgic against him

XxSamanthaxX
Yea, I thought about that a while ago. The similar qualities in the 2. Who knows, maybe that's what JKR got Voldemort from wink

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starprincess366
voldemort is half blood, not mud blood. muggle father, pure witch mother. i think jk rowling might have got the idea from hitler, iv alwasy taken an interest on the events in ww2 only our school is to dumb to teach us it yet. yes is think rowling got the idea from hitler. she dosn't live to far away from is homeland after all.

starprincess366
id like to learn more about how and why they killed there fathers. i read voldemorts fan fiction life on the dark order but its not there anymore. it said that voldemort found out where his father lived and killed every1 there. he was a meber of the circle of light but moved to the dark side after he killed his mfather. he then put the cru- on the orphanage worker person who abused him badley. it mad me cry so sad. he lost the only 2 things he loved in his life which is why he went to the dark sside. his mother, the cafertia lady at the orphanage(she died of cancer and was a squib who took care of ickle voldeypoo) and lili his girlfriend. it was a good story but i can't find it anymore. its called i am lord voldemort. it told me how he got his name voldemort and how he created the dark mark. so sad, wish i could read it again. o well enough of making u all feel bad. is u want details send me a personal message.

Phoenix
this next bit is from http://www.spacefossil.freeserve.co.uk/Sean/badfolk.htm

Phoenix
"It is reasonable to assume that some aspects of the character of Lord Voldemort in Harry Potter have been influenced by real people. In the last century, the terrible deeds of the Nazis in Europe shocked and damaged the world. Adolf Hitler is perhaps the closest person to Voldemort to live.

Hitler was a racist - just as Voldemort is. The former believed that the best people were those of pure German blood - and that Jews were abominable. Voldemort believes that the best people are those of pure magical blood - and that muggles are abominable.

Both persons raised armies with which they caused fear and destruction. Voldemort can never be quite as wicked as Hitler, simply because the German dictator was a real person, and the lives he took were real.

Tyrants like Hitler have appeared many times over the centuries. We have had a fair share of them in Britain. People in the UK were once persecuted for being Catholic or Protestant, and those who belonged to whichever version of Christianity which was not favoured by the monarch were promptly burnt to death for being heretics. The distinction between pure-blood and mudblood wizards is equally baseless."

Phoenix
This also draws comparisons between hitler and voldemort...

http://www.em-online.co.uk/lifestyle.asp?ID=69

Korri
i think Malfoy looks kinda like hitler with his hair like that erm

Phoenix
erm... I'm not sure what you mean? cos hitler had black hair in a side parting, and Malfoy has blond hair swept back...

the_big_fan
Yep.

shaber
Wasn't it Hitler's abusive father who might have been part Jewish? (Not that this is proven.) Voldemort hated his father who was a human. Voldemort has a genocidal agenda with regards to humankind. I wonder whether Lucius Malfoy knows of Voldemort being only Half-Blood?

The Death Eaters are a little like both the Islamic Militants and Combat 18 (Neo-Nazi group.)

Phoenix
*drags up thread*

Phoenix
*drags up thread*

megajoint
I'm a jew from israel and I'm saying to u that hitler isn't a jew!!!!!! or half jew or something like that
got it! it's just a rumor my history teacher say so and he is very knowledgeable in this time area.

Phoenix
the swastika is a Hindu symbol

megajoint
1)Did u notice that the time grindewald (sp?) was defeated it's the time hitler defeated also (1945)....

2)I believe there is more to voldemort than meets the eye...he is not evil completly he just want power beyond anyone else.
he kills only the ones the standing in his way and kills with one shot
(the killing course)to end their life fast and less painfull....ohh Im talking nonsense so leave it to be.alien

megajoint
hitler is not part jewish I'm sure at that...(I'm jew..learned it alot)
maybe voldemort copy grindewald (sp?)actions maybe he was the source of his beliefs.
If it wanst a childs litriture the descriptions were more horrifying...(sick)
was it written that after this dark lord no more dark lords will appear????(dont remember)
If yes how can it be? there will be alway prejustice in the wizards world


Phoenix why there is 2 threads of the same subject hitler/voldemort
shouldnt u do something about it?

The Alpha
Is Rowling writing for Germans?

PrefectRonnykin
i see a simalarity between hermy and jessica simpson i just cant place it at the moment

eezy45
this is a good point!
hitler was austrian, and wanted a german nation

eezy45
The swastika is also used by the germanics.
In the nazi time also the Christmas tree neat (<- ???)
had swastikas on it.
They tried to replace christmas by a germanic fest
on 21 of december. it didnt work wink

see http://web.singnet.com.sg/~sidneys/Swastika.htm

PrefectRonnykin
does anyone notic my stupid jokes?

eezy45
its so stupid nobody will laugh

PrefectRonnykin
aww eezy sad lol

eezy45
wink well @least i didnt laugh
sry pple gtg, im on a lan party now

PrefectRonnykin
wink erm lool

Phoenix
bumping

pottermad
yeah! nobody posts here since like forever...

Sauron
roll eyes (sarcastic)

Hitler was a complete genious

he just used his mind the wrong way

imagine that man withouth the evil...he rebuilt germany from the crippled country it was back up into a leading power!

could have been great

but he is now to be remembered as the bastard in history

Sauron
course it didnt work!

would you give up presents for a day of 'oh look lets pull our aryan crackers, and then we can play with our blond blue eyed aryan dolls!'

imagine the crackers

'what did the anti semite say to the aryan?'

pottermad
same as voldemort he could have done great things!

celestial_moon
this is an odd thing but cool. he does want those things even though he himself isnt pure

Patronus
Phoenix, I mentioned this connection in a different thread. Check "Random Harry Potter Thoughts."

celestial_moon
well then this is a specific thread of it. stick out tongue

Phoenix
bump

RaventheOnly
no expression well there are other characters that Volkdermort is similar to but no one would know who they are sad They have similar trains of thought never the less messed and different talents... Voldy isn't much of a talker i take it stick out tongue and well Hitler was a genious for talking but never the less a socio-path when it came to ideology messed Hitler had SS and storm Troopers who ruled threw mere fear which the Death Eaters seem to be an Elite gaurd like the SS messed big grin

Darth Sauron
Hitler, born in austria, fell in love with a girl there, she rejected him, he fled to germany to avoid fighting in the war, changed his name to hitler, became an anti semite to fit in with the crowd there....confused

Voldemort, changed his name because he thought it sounded 'cool' spent his high school years with his 2 foot tall dad, playing chess, and collecting porno of the weird sisters.

So similar blink

RaventheOnly
confused dude Hitler's name was never changed stick out tongue he fought in WWI and earned the Iron Cross stick out tongue Germanies highest award + he was obsessed with war and loved the idea of being patriotically fighting in WWI messed he was one of the few people on earth that wrote in the trenches about the glory of being there messed He left Austria to become an artist and was rejected and then joined the war and aftwards tried to lead a coup and was imprisoned and then everything started after that.

Darth Sauron
Yes it was, he wasnt born adolf hitler you know.

He was born adolf Schickelgruber

He left austria to avoid military service, but was arrested and brought back. Look here

RaventheOnly
stick out tongue

the fourth child of Alois Schickelgruber and Klara Hitler in the Austrian town of Braunau

he took his mothers maiden name stick out tongue

Darth Sauron
Yes, he was BORN Schickelgruber but his father abused him, he even once said that the day his father dropped won dead infront of him (heart attack) was the happiest day of his life.
So he changed his name.

ladygrim
tooo confusing

chic_sxydiva
the 1st similarities I notice between hitler and voldy is that they're both fugly...

ladygrim
most defintly

DanFan4000
I guess when the mind gets bored, it wonders. What is something or someone famous and well known, that will will pop out of you mind to
relate... no compare to the Dark Lord. Is Hitler the only person that comes close to our favorite evil villian???


giljotiini

sephiroth rules
Originally posted by DeNiro
but hitler was incredibly clever though rather then voldermort hitler never killed a singel person he brain washed millions of people to do his dirty work for him unlike Voldemort goes house to house seeing who is on his sdie and kills them himself if they werent. but there are simalirties to the two hitler and voldemort start off as good people then turn into crazy killing machines.

ok this was kinda ages ago but i just found dis thread.....
*knock knock*
*opens door*
"Hello, I am Lord Voldemort. Do you wish to join me in my quest for evil?"
"........no."
*green flash*
*thud*
*closes door*

biggesthpfan
voldemort is power hungry i really doubt that if your pure blood he will not kill you he only spares his fallowers
hitler was a facist meaning he hated the jews he wasn't power hungry

sephiroth rules
yeah....hitler was hard-out racist, voldy just wanted to become the most powerful and feared sorceror in the world

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