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I want to know if anyone thinks that maybe ***** Dissaperated behind the veil? Or if JKR really did kill him off? Let me know what you think.......

I have already said in another place that i DO believe he disapparated!! b/c i dont see how she could kill off one of the BEST charecters!!

The Room has to be called the Death Room for a reason seriously... I think people may dissipear behind it and never come back... therefore dissipearing from this world.

i didnt want ****** to die but i think he did...

YEah...but you dont get it... ladyblueeyes had a point i had read and I wanted to start a poll....

its possible he could have dissapperated...i dont see him as being clumsy enough to fall behind it....... he was always very clever. He could have dissaperated as he was hitting the veil, therefore clearly he wouldn't be dead...just thought of as dead...oh it would be great of her to bring him back in a way like that...and he'd have this story to tell of how it happened,....etc...and where he went to....

nobody really knows whats behind the veil. it could be a different plane of existence ***** is trapped on and will have to fight his way out, then reappearing sometime in the 7th book or something. if she did that then she could right a whole other book off the adventure of ***** inside it therefore giving her(JKR) more money and fame

She is defintely a VERY talented writer One of my favorites!

ok like i said he made the illusion of him falling into the veil.....so everyone would think he was dead b/c Fudge still wants him dead right?? and he will want him dead til wormtail comes back! and honestly u all have forgotten about buckbeak!! someone HAS to take care of him!! i dont see that lil house-elf of sirius's taking care of him! do u????????????

i TOTALLY agree with you you have a good point..........

i think Sirrius is gone forever.....because Rowling cried when she completed the chapter about him falling in the veil....

i think he fell in but didnt die.......what i mean is that it could be another plane of existence that he just has to escape

Yes, she did cry..but she can CHANGE what direction he goes.... so who knows...we'll see though I personally think he'll have to escape again...

that sounds good but look at the facts though!! no-one ran over to make sure he did fall behind the veil! and if he did then well, u r right he will make another gr8 escape but I still say that jkr was putting on a front to throw us all off!! u know she can lie just as well as we can!

I don't think that he could have died. But I do think that he is never Coming back well that was the biggest tragedy i think in all the books . I cried and Cried when he died. My mom said that she felt that way when (she was as young as me) Gandalf Died in the Lord of the Rings Books. she said that its like the carectors just come alive and they are family to you. and as if you knew them your whole life. well thats what my mom said. I think that it is very much true. (even though i am still trying to read the Lord Of the Rings books and im on the Two Towers.)
Well at least he ---- trying to save Harry than just letting other people do the fighting for him. You know.
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Yeah.....it was sad..I am hoping my instincts are right and that he didn't die

I think that Siruis is dead for good. As much as people seem to want it, I don't think that Siruis will ever be seen alive in the books agian, but I don't think that Harry's contact with Siruis is completely done. After all the books are about all kinds of magical happenings.

yes thats true!! so even if he is...dead..gulp...which i really hope isn't the case....we will still read about a magical way of communication for harry and sirius! who knows maybe he is just stuck behind teh veil...but hopefully he did disapperate outta there...or maybe someone took the polyjuice potion!! (j/p and it was someone not really sirius)

ladyblueyes, good point..i read somewhere else that someone thought maybe it was sirius's brother.......but who knows???? it sucks though.... either which way.... i am very curious about what is behind the veil..I wouldn't doubt if the next book is titled somethign about the veil.... but who knows...... I have heard somethign about a green torch.... but i guess we'll see soon enough......... for JKR that is.

yea thanks for agreeing with me!! see me and my friends were talking about the whole "DEATH" issue and we think the profess. Lockhart might have some sort of play into this role....like she wouldn't have brought him back into the book for NO apparent reason right?? and he was getting his memory back when everyone went to visit mr. weasley. but then again maybe not..just a thought...

COME OFF IT PEOPLE! HE IS DEAD! DEAD! NOT COMING BACK! DIDN'T DISAPPARATE! DUMBLEDORE SAID IT HIMSELF AND SO DID J.K. ROWLING! EVERYBODY WISHES HE DIDN'T BUT.....HE DID!

ok listen here!! everyone has their own right to an OPINION! so dont get huufy with us for sharing our thoughts on the subject!! jk did say he was dead but...she may have been implying a different kind of death!! ever think of it like that.. his charecter dead til she decides to bring him back saying putting him on hold for a while

RIGHT

thank u .....u brought that to my attention!!

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hmm.. if the veil is sumthin to separate the dead's n the ones who live, I dun think even wizards can disapparate.
I mean, if he really can, then evrybody can, including James n Lilly. I'm sure he's dead (took me 2 weeks to get dat settle in my broken heart.. still not over it, tho.. *sighs* ) but as for wut Luna said to Harry bout her n her mom, I'm sure it means sumthin. JKR never really writes sumthing for nothing, ait?!

wow, thats very possible, luce, but y would um 'the ded guy' do such a thing 2 harry? he was so depressed and in denial the whole time! man i felt 4 harry, ****** wud NEVER do such a horrible thing 2 him, if he did and suprised harry by appearing, harry would tottally HATE him , catch my drift?

its tottally mean 2 fake a death...

I dont think he faked it..... I just dont think he's dead..... good points though.

ok,this is my opionion...
thee veil was like a gate to the world of the dead,thats why harry saw thos shadows.BUT,since **** wasnt dead when he passed into the dead world,maybe theres still some chance for him to go back.also,i had dis idea,maybe in one of the next books,harry takes a spacial potion that kills him,and he goes into the dead world,helps sirus,and then harry takes another potion witch revives him.AlSO,are there wizzard gravyards at all,if so, why doesnt harry ever visit his parants' graves?

my opion is that he is dead but some how he will end up comming back and luna's thing about her mom and well it means sumthing i don't know what!

wut bout luna's mom?
cant remember wut was da deal wit her

i thought in book 4 they were in a grave yard b/c his grave had already been dug by voldemort..... maybe i interpreted it wrong....

hmmm,maybe, but i think that graveyard was a muggle one,i think it was th one in the town voldemort's house was in,but can i cant recall there being any wizzard graves cept that....

MAYBE THE VEIL IS THEIR GRAVEYARD! JUST THOUGHT OF THAT.....

WOW i never thought of that....this calls for new theories

yeah i know

meybe they chuck the bodies trough the veil?

yep he disaperated no Qs asked! does n e 1 think that crookshanks is an animagi.it would solve alot of probs as 1.thats how he could communicate with sirius 2.thats how he new where scabbers was and 3. thats how he new scabbers was peter pettigrew!!!

sirius just cant b dead cause he disapperated!!!! i love sirius and gary oldman

umm animals can sence stuff,and i guess the cat was very inteligent and uunderstood what sirust ments,i mean its a frigin wizzard world

i wonder if crookshanks is an animagi...b/c remember the storekeeper had the cat for a LONG time and no one wanted it.....except hermoine...so i think maybe something will come about with that one...

BUT the rat was an animagi..peter...so i dont know if JKR will redo the same kind of thing...doesn't seem like she would......

so i dont understand that if its like that

its not,cuz sirus would have told the rest of the ppl

well...sirius only knew about pettigrew b/c of his missing toe...so sirius would not necessarily know...but i dont think JKR would repeat something...but tis a possibility.........hrmmmmmmmmmm??

i think that sirius may not have disapparated because well there wasnt a really loud crack and harry would have heard it if there was, also lupin and all them are all like hes gone to harry, but i think there will be a way to either save him or get him back, do u guys remember the mirror he gave harry to communicate with him and then it didnt work and harry broke it in his trunk, well harry didnt throw it out did he, he threw it into his trunk and its probably still there and might work again, maybe sirius jus didnt use it at the second when harry tried i really do hope they bring him back and hes proved innocent because then hed be able to become his hot and sexy self he my favourite character and i dont think he got enough attention so far in the books

maybe,harry seeks voldemort's help,becouse he knows how to bring him back,so haary trades him sometnig valuable for help

thats a theory but i doubt that because its his fault sirius is gone or so they think

sooo,voldemort really wants whatever,so harry gets it for him,and V-guy brings back S-dude

Accually If Harry was going to go to Voldemort then that would be the last person he would go to... Are you getting me? And I was just thinking...... Wormtail still ows Harry his life so..... Maybe if somebody could trade Sirius places it could me Wormtail!!!!........ Just thinking...... But I allready know that Wormtail will give his life away probally in the 7th book....... what do yah think?
-Tonks

i hate to say it but i think J K has killed him, I mean she cant put the readers through all that then make it so he never dies.... its like a story that ends with "but it was just a dream"

if he was alive i mean

did that make sense?

I agree. Sirius is definately dead. And even tho he was my favourite character I still think he wouldn't have disapperated. It's like mg16 said, he wouldn't put Harry through that. I would hate to see sirius come back to life. It really annoys me when someone dies and then comes back to life. It would be cool to see him come back as a memory or something but not back to life. I also think that mirror has something to do with it because J.K wouldn't have added it in for no reson. and lastly I think the veil being the magical graveyard is a great idea.

he can't be dead

Of course he is dead. Don't you remember how JK said before book 5 was released that: "A major character will die in this one." If Sirius is alive that would make her a liar.

yeah, i think hes dead....i was so mad though when harry broke his mirror sirius gave him!!

i neva thought that he could dissapparate

Originally posted by Lokia
The Room has to be called the Death Room for a reason seriously... I think people may dissipear behind it and never come back... therefore dissipearing from this world.

'nuff said.

Originally posted by zombieman
Of course he is dead. Don't you remember how JK said before book 5 was released that: "A major character will die in this one." If Sirius is alive that would make her a liar.

what is jk god? she can't lie? (srry it just sounded funny, "jk can't lie!!"



I think sirius is really dead, becuase jk really does not strike me as the "happily fixed ever after" type writer, real tragedies happen in her books. though i would like sirius back as much as the next huge fan of his!! (I was so devastated when he died, i bawled my eyes out!!)

Oh and a cool thing, i think sirius will somehow be tied into the end (not brought back neccisarily). Becuase on her web site jk said about the mirror (why harry did not remember it before doing all he did) "It didn't do as much as you thought, but it will do more than you think" or something almost exactly like that. I can't wait to find out what she means!