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who would win out of iceman and pyro if they were forced to fight each other


let me see your comments people

i definitley vote for iceman because pyro's got a attitude problem and i don't like that.

i think that Pyro is as strong as Iceman, so the fight will be very "bloody"
But we can't ferget that Bobby and John were friends, so this is more complicated as it looks.

That's a good one. Definitely a tough one. Fire can melt ice but since Pyro can't create fire then it's kinda stuck.

I think Iceman would win:
1) He's the good guy jk
Its true that one flame would fry (sp) Bobby but since
Pyro can't create fire all Iceman has to do is freeze Pyros lighter.

besides if Pyro would melt iceman's ice, water could put out the flame... and it would be very interesting if Iceman could change his whole body into ice!!! that would be great!

It might turn things a litle unrealistic. Changing is body.

maybe not changeing his body, but cover it with ice...

im not sure either maybe they would both drown cuz the fire would melt the ice....

keep the comments coming people

If Pyro fights Iceman, doesn't that mean their friendship is gone?

probably. But still, i think if they had to fight, Pyro would win *^_^*

i think that now pyro has chosen magnetos side i think that iceman and pyro will no longer keep their friendship going it be interesting to see who win the battle between them

I think they could be still friends but because they are angry on each other (you know... Pyro's with Magneto and stuff) and they're standing on the opposite sides, the bad and the good... they'll have to fight... It could be so dramatic because whe can see the feelings and duty... and what should they choose?

it could be very intersting to watch would their friendship survive or will they force to battle it out

Pyro doesn't seem to have the maturity and control of his gift that Iceman has. So Pyro could screw up by getting frustrated and out of control. Still, the feelings of friendship Iceman has for Pyro could cause him to lose to Pyro. It's a tough call.

Iceman would win, while fire melts ice, Pyro needs devices to generate fire and Iceman is in so control of his powers that he can freeze Pyros water molecules in his body making him an popcicle!

Pyro would win most def.!

Okay, as much as I would hate to say it....Drake would win. Excuse my...hate, yeah hate towards Bobby, if u like him. Sides, I just said that he would win.

If you look at this rationaly, Bobby would win. Due to the fact that he can freeze things from afar. While Pryo needs his lighter. But we must also remember that if Pryo concentrates enough, he can create more then one stream of fire. So Bobby might have some difficulties. But in the end Bobby would win, only because like Kes said:

1) he's a good guy
2) he has a better grasp of his powers
3) he's a good guy

because he will light that mf on fire and melt his a$$ and boil his a$$ to hell

God I wish I could see something like that happen to Drake....

i love to see it

Bobby would win! And he WILL!

Yes he would, but that doesn't mean ~I~ have to like it.

I say that Iceman will win. pyro needs a source of fire for his power to work. If the source is removed, than he will lose.

i think pyro is cute but hes too cocky and he would screw it up in the end so iceman will win

I agree!

pyro is cool but i think iceman all the way

Hey! And what happened with this tracksuit which Bobby gave to Pyro at his home?! Does Pyro still have it?!

iceman would win in the end

Iceman is a very powerful mutant and was chosen as one of the Twelve.

http://www.marvel.com/bios/bios.htm?id=36&family=X-MEN

Fine, fine.

Destory my dreams of his demise, with your logic and common sense

who are you directing this to?

Everyone telling me that logic is right and Bobby would win.....but then again I said he would too.

Condemner my logic!!!!!!!!

PS If cats are smarter then dogs, then how come dogs don't get stuck in trees?

We don't need any Iceman's bio to know he's more powerful than Pyro.

PS: And I'm asking one more time. What happened with that tracksuit?!

no idea i presume that pyro still has the tracksuit

It was a joke get it???? Cats can get out of a tree easily. They can just jump off and nothing will happen to them.

This is off topic anyway.

say what are yall be talking about here

Its off topic anyway

i be gessin soo

Well actually now that i think about it, since Pyro was inffected with the Legacy Virus, i think Pyro would probably win. He took on the X-men all by himself when he suffered from the Legacy Virus and he would have beat them if it wasn't for Magneto.

Ok lets try and make this thread specific (sp) who started it? Where you talking about Pyro and Iceman from the movie or comics?

movie or comics

Charmaine that doesn't help Ok lets do it this way say in the comics I believe this with win and why..and in the movie I believe this would win and why, ok?

ok im confused

Welcome to my world!

But I still have to say Bobby would win, even though I would love to see Pryo kick his butt....In either the movie, comic, or cartoon

Well pll started saying that Pyro was infected with a virus, thats why he would win. But thats comic Pyro, with movie Pyro it's different. So if we say Pyro would win cos..bla,bla. We must say it is comic Pyro, ok?!

Pyro will die, okay?! Got it?

now itty bitty Bbby Drake would lose...he's to much of a wussy and cares to much for others...even soemtimes opponents in battle, so I'd have to say Pyro would win, you saw how carried away he got in the movie, so much so that Rogue had to take some of his power to stop him, Pyro will fight till the very end!

In te comic book, during the Legion Quest, Bobby went so far as too freeze the entire molecules and inner organs of Xaver's son. That was pretty extreme and could have killed any mutant.

Yeah but they were doing that to save the fate of the entire would, not a one on one battle.

Why am I arguing? Agh, I hate conflicting emotions. I know in my mind Bobby would win, only cause he's a good guy. But I want Pryo to win, cause I hate Bobby...and fire is cooler then ice

Sometimes the good guy doesn't have to win, in this case Bobby Drake! *shivers* I can't stand that guy! He's like a haunting sugary after-school special...whilst Pyro is the cool movie with everything and extra pizazz...what do you want to win?...dull...or pizazz? I'll go with the good stuff!

You're RIGHT!! Why in the world should I pay attention to common sense, I've never done that before!

PRYO!!!!!!

think of it this way aswell...in the book they were arguing over which power was better..ice or fire...Pyro said that the person would die in a lot pain..which is to be expected...but Bobby was detailed and described...

"But you know..."Bobby said, "there's something pretty agonizing about freezing to death, You don't just drift off to sleep like most people think."
"Damn," Marie muttered, "I was so hping for a nap!"
"Enlighten us, snowman," John instructed.
It all starts with shivering. Just a little at first as the body struggles to keep warm. Your skin turns a pale blue."
"Guys, not again," Marie pleaded. "Change of topis, okay?"
being guys they ignored her. "Then," Bobby continued, "the moisture in your lungs starts to freeze, so that even breathing is painful." "This conversation," she tried again, "is painful!"....."Those shivers," Bobby said, turn into violent convulsions as your blood begins to crystallize." "Wouldn't you be like so dead by then, Bobby?" asked Marie in a tone that broadcast boredom. "Worse, he replied. "Your brain starts to scream for oxygen and you can't stop yourself slowly, inexorably sinking into complete and utter...insanity!"



How about that!? That makes Iceman sound cool...but Pyro is dedicated to his powers...not making flasy decisions.

Um, how fun!

the facts are against the other!...and winning with the coolness of a cool guy...PYRO IS CHAMPION!!!!!!

I'm just glad now I can say Pryo will win....god I hate Bobby.

lol, I even started saying he had to be gay and married to the new Robin dude off of Batman. cause they have the same last name. Yeah, but I got over...eventually

....I see what you mean...i forgot about that Robin...I keep confusing him for the 2nd Robin that died! O.o...I'm glad I helped you over this hurtle we call common sense. j/k...

I think movie Iceman would definitely beat movie Pyro. In the first movie, you'll remember that the first time Iceman introduced himself to Rogue, he froze the fire that the pyrokinetic dude in front of him was playing with. Solid. Then it crashed, made noise, and got the kid in trouble. First off, I don't remember if it was Pyro because he really didn't do anything else in the whole movie so I didn't pay attention, but I imagine it was, and the freezing fire thing seems to end the fight pretty early.

well i think pyro wud, fire power over ice!

i hope in the next xmen movie we get to see iceman freeze pyro's fire in the air that would rock
Iceman would win

This is a very old thread but I still wanna voice out my opinion.....

PYRO WILL WIN!!!

Well, actually, they'll both just cancel out each other's powers.

Pyro would win, if ya think about it Ya can melt Ice with fire but ya can freeze fire with ice, so it be pyro

Really i think that they would cancel each other out... fire ice, ice fire...... but if i had to choose it would be Pyro all the way.... Fire kicks butt!!!

Well I think the fact that Pyro cant create fire gives Iceman an advantage. Olus in X1 Iceman frezees Pyros fire. So Iceman IMO would win.

Pyro would win no doubt

Ya im tellin ya i think hed win ya cant freeze fire but u can melt ice so he has the advatage over iceman

How the fek would Pyro be able to win? He can't create fire now can he? Nope. So, even if he had a lighter, how hard is it for mr Ice to just freeze it?

A liter yes but it wouldnt be so easy for iceman to freeze a flame thrower

...Or he could just make himself a nice little ice wall, so that the flames can't touch him.

thats the disadvantage that pyro has iz the liter

once Pyro has goten the flame i really don't think the liter matters anymore.... because even if Bobby frose the fire Pyro could still have the fire in his hand... I don't no how to put this... but i no once Pyro has got a flame it never leaves his hand... well it does but a part of it stays until he puts it out him self.....

well Iceman freezes Pyro...thats all it takes. GambitEVO in the 1st movie Iceman froze Pyros flame.

Yea but ya cant freeze a flame, i got so mad when they did that in the movie. And even if bobby made an ice wall around himself it wouldnt take to long before pyro melted it with the fire.

The water would put out the fire.

so would that mean that the fire would have to be in the water to put it out... or somethimg like that? Why not do it your self cuz i have... take some ice and litter.... trust me the fire did not go out...

lol didnt quite understand what you just said. But Iceman can make a lot of ice not just a bit. In the end (IMO) Pyro not being able to create fire would be to big of a disadvantage. You freeze is lighter and no flame. Or he could just freeze him.

sorry messed up there.... yeah that could happen... I'm just going to say that they both don't win.... cuz they cancel each other..... just like water and lighting... or that at least what my friend right here is saying.... anyways I like fire i have like a lot of thing that have to do with it... I even have my name burned into my skin.... *I was bored it dont hurt.* lol and yes i no i am crazy...

lol

I just think pyro would win, he does have the disadvatage of not being able to create fire but still im tellin ya ya cant freeze fire but u can melt ice so i think in that aspect he has the advantage

Hey i never thought of that...... *Thinks really hard* Ow, it hurts to think...

For the love of God (or me), Pyro doesn't have a chance.
Yeahyeah, sure what if he can melt de ice, Iceman could just knock de lighter out of mr. Pyros hand, then freeze the entire floor so that everything that touches it turns into Ice.

Poor Pyro ......http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/weep.gif

Oh come on....... lord... i take back what i said.... Pyro will win!!!!

yes!!http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/clapping.gif

no just kidding.... I don't really like Pyro or Iceman.... but I really believe that Iceman should have save the day at the end of X2

I like bad guys... so there for Pyro is on my list......hehe... also he is very cute..... AND.... I love fire............... so there for Pyro will win....

Be resonible pyros not jsut gunna stand there an let iceman kick a liter out of his hand, and your thinkin of the pyro from the movies yes he used a liter but there are all sorts of different fire starters that he could use and to be honest bobby has never been that great of a fighter but whatever i dont really care who wins i was just saying that i believe that although pyro has the disadvantage of not being able to create fire i still believe he could win

i could not say it better my self...

i think ice man because ice man can freeze up pyros hands so he can't move his arms and hands for a lighter or fire tank and he can't producer fire to manipulate so he's stuck

but in the movie when that one guy had the cigarette Pyro did not use his hands... he used his mind...... and in the book it tell you that to...

You know... Martya has a point...

Though in X-Men Evolution, when Bobby froze Pyro's hands, the Angel made out of fire died out.

But then again, it IS a cartoon.

yeah a cartoon...................

well he doesnt need his hands but he needs fire.
I just think Bobby can freeze Pyro before he can light the lighter.

What's he gonna do? Cut his arms off and dance to distract Ice? Yeah, that will work...

If that had made ne sence at all i would answer u but since it didnt iv got nuthin to say

you got me lost AGAIN.....

I'm saying he simply has no chance, he needs a litter to create fire. And if Iceman takes the litter, or freezes it or however he chooses to disable it, Pyro has no chance. Sure, he could run, but that won't help him.
Now, if Pryo would learn how to create fire the fight would be fair, as it's now, he needs a litter so he simply has no chance. Did that make any sence?

There are other ways of getting fire...... liters are not the only thing....

Made plenty of sence but i agree with martya there are alot more things than liters to star a fire with

lord there could be someone walking down the rode with a cigarette and he could pull the fire from that... or sparks... in the book it said that he could start a flame from that....

I agree, and in the movie they portray him as having a liter on him but most of the time he is portrayed as having flame throwers

I'D hope Pyro would win, but I bet it'd be Iceman... Anyways, i'll be there to console my boy... *hugs Pyro*

Aww I wanna hug him to, hes so cute and ...australian!!!**hugs pyro and thanks god hes australian**

*joins* yeah he's so cute *kisses Pyro*

Now you see why they call me Pyro?

now do u see why they call me the aussie lover... wait that had nothin to do with ne thing Oh well **Returns to hugging pyro**

If Iceman wins, we shall have revenge no GambitEVOFan1? *holds Pyro closer*

YES REVENGE!!!**Gives Iceman dirty look and hugs pyro tighter**

yeah we should defeat Iceman *gives evil look and squeezes Pyro*

YEAH!!!

ok

hey let's plan something against Iceman *teams up*

i like ice man

YEA LETS!! I kno lets sneak into his room at night and suffocate him with his pillow

Hmm no let's drown him

IN A PUDDLE FROM HIS OWN MELTED ICE!!Thats Genius!!UR A GENIUS!!

yes we should.... lol.... I want some of Pyro to... Move over girls..... *Hugs Pyro with the rest*

Or let's freeze Iceman to death... *shares Pyro*

i can catch pyro on fire

thats a great idea!!**shares pyro also**

That wouldn't be nice... *flares Psyschic knife*

and get ice man and shiva together

Hmm well... hey girl's Pyro's leaving with me... *leaves*

**SniffSniff**I miss Pyro

*Runs after Pyro* NO wait don't go I still have mo.......... what was i saying... OMG i should like an over obsessed fan.... Oh well *gets on knees* COME BACK!!!!

Wait on sec *hehe sec.. thats my initials..* ... what is this... Pyro on fire... is that possible?

what would happen if my last name started with an X??? cuz my initials are SEC........ AHHHH!!!!!

then ur initials would be sex! that be fun to walk around school with ur initials on ur back pack. My initials are OCC ya cant really spell nething with that

lol Mine are ACLG cant spell anything either. Unless I just use AC...then I'm air conditioner

Better get back on topic thou

this should be called the "Hugs for Pyro" thread

they should make a thred about that!

I agree with jedioutcast.Pyro would definately win!!!

PYRO would win of course.

Pyro, of course. It's apparently Iceman is suxx and lamer

i think pyros gonna win.... in my opinion..(no offense to ice man fans) i think iceman's gay......pyros heaps better than him....

PYRO of course... and bnp, i hope you are not homophobe or anything.

lolz....nah..i aint.....i used the word gay as a figure of speech....iwut i meant with gay is that he sucks...

*growls* you better...

Sorry if i'm late in this thread so i'll jus let my thoughts out now
GET EM ICEMAN KNOCK THAT STINKIN LOSER INTO THE NEXT DIMENSION!!!

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I didnt read all of this thread.
But here is my take. Pyro needs a flame to work his power. He can't start one like the Human Torch can.
Drake can just create ice as long as there is moisture in the air.
So if the fight was in a desert, Drake is screwed.
But if it was in the tundra, Pyro is screwed.
Fist fight? Drake..... he spent more time with Xavier and the Danger room.
Based on optimal conditions for both to use their powers, I'd go with Iceman. Cuz Pyro ****in sucks.

Pyro isn't ****in suxx!!!!! he is far better as loser Bobby...

YEAH! PYRO DOESN'T SUCK! HE'S HOTT!!!! AND BOBBY'S JUST A LOSER!

yeah! uhm... i'll drawin a pic where Pyro is beats Bobby...

yeah! hehehehe i hate bobby!

Ok I just see that almost everybody loves Pyro better. This isn't fair! Poor Bobby. So I vote for Bobby! (Of course Pyro would win but I must do this for poor little Bobby!!)

f*ck poor loser bobby! go pyro!!!!

hehehehe, i'm soooo childlish

I like Pyro in the X-men movies more than Iceman so far, but Iceman would win in a fight. He'd be able to create a ice sheild around himself fast enough to protect him against Pyro's fire plus he can lower his body temp to prevent heat exhaustion. All Iceman would have to do is freeze the blood in Pyro's body (a tactic Iceman likes to use against telepaths in the comic books).

i don't think he would be able to freeze the blood in pyro's veins... he's body heat is just too... hot! he would fail! and pyro can melt the ice shield that bobby creates

Pyro burnt him before...