Re: Obi Wan Kenobi and Vader duel in the Kenobi show
how did Obi Wan all of a sudden pick up his light saber skills in the last episode so quickly when he has been out if practice for so long ?
How did he defeat Vader so easily ?
Also does this change anything with regards to Obis wans power levels and his light saber skills level etc hence making him better then Darth Vader etc ?
From what I'm hearing, Kenobi had this mental enlightened state or whatever with protecting Luke/Leia? Something to that effect.
So he was operating I guess similar with Kanan getting all those supposed moments in Rebels, which elevated him beyond his normal levels. But when those stopped, he wasn't doing anything near what those moments showed.
Actually i when looking at that duel i think Obi out smarted him to a certain extent . Obviously Obis was the master he will kind of knows his apprentices/anakins/Vaders weakness etc .. when he throws all the rocks on Vader made Vader weaker couldn’t breath well slowed him down etc , also when he destroys Vaders chest apparatus(making Vader weaker ) etc reminds me of Bain vs Batman in the movies when he out smarts him ie bit like a plot device ..
But yeah also Obi says a prayer before fighting Vader I think he mentions Jin’s name etc I’m guessing his spirit helped him ..
But yeah Obi destroying his vaders life support hence getting upper hand fighting smartly and sort of augmenting his force powers when thinking of leila etc
Also Sids comment to vader at the end pretty much explains it : he says that his feelings for Obi made him weaker hence losing ...and then vader states that he doesnt care about Obi anymore abandoning the search on him etc..
But all in all i dont think Obi is more powerful then vader(sabers and force): because then Sidious will be trying to hunt for him and Sids as we know doesnt really care or give a damn about Obi etc.. obviously hes more concerned and interested in Luke and others etc...
Pretty much this. Vader was conflicted and his feelings toward Obi Wan weakened him, like Palpatine said.
That’s not to say Obi Wan wasn’t insanely powerful here though. Thinking about the twins gave him extra motivation and determination, it’s like he gets a boost in the force when protecting the twins. Just like when he killed Maul.
Obi-Wan in any case shouldn't beat Vader, except with big external help or because of the will of the force. But this Obi-Wan didn't train at all, was in worst condition ever, while Vader was destroying everything in his path. Obi-Wan shouldn't stand a chance, but he ragdolled him. And the worst is this is canon, idiots making something because of rights and turn it into canon. Idiots decide what is canon, not in my book. This is just typicial modern age show and doing with Obi-Wan what they did with new worst movies.
Last edited by Inedian on Jun 23rd, 2022 at 05:57 AM
Well, it's dumb but it happened. We just have to accept that Obi-Wan is apparently > Vader now. Of course, that makes you wonder why they needed Luke at all.
BTW, did anyone notice that Kenobi was physically pushing Vader back in saber locks? He staggered him a few times too. It's like this fight was written by someone, who had no idea who these characters were.
Last edited by Psychotron on Jun 23rd, 2022 at 08:07 AM
So we’re just going to ignore the context? Kenobi beat a pre prime conflicted Vader. Palpatine confirms that Vader’s feelings weakened him. And this was pre prime Vader. Prime, non conflicted ROTJ Vader is still far superior.
Last edited by xPRIMEx on Jun 23rd, 2022 at 03:20 PM
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