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The Borg vs. The Xenomorphs (Aliens)

What's to say? These are two intergalactic species that really deserve each other.

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The Borg are on their Cube ship floating around the cosmos and stumble upon "a ship" (a hypothetical ship not necessarily from any of the movies) that has been overrun by facehuggers and, thus, producing a horde of humanoid xenomorphs along with an egg laying Queen. The Borg attempt to assimilate the ship and it's "inhabitants", not knowing what lies ahead.

The Borg have all of their regular technology.

The Aliens have, well, themselves. Nothing further needed, really.

The Borg can't be implanted by facehuggers, since they are, more or less, cyborg corpses, for lack of a better word. The Aliens have feral attacks and, of course, their molecular acid blood.

The Borg vs. Aliens: who assimilates who?


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Re: The Borg vs. The Xenomorphs (Aliens)

If the Borg are unable to assimilate the Xenos due to their acid blood, they would just wipe them out via phaser-fire and whatnot.

I'm willing to bet the Borg with their super-adaptive technology would adapt their nanos to be resistant to acid, though. Either way, resistance would be futile for the Xenomorphs.

Oh, the Borg are not corpses, they're still alive.


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I should have specified "corpse" in my opening post better. I meant "corpse-like" in that they are similar to the walking dead. I realize that even though the majority of the Borg drone is mechanical/nano make-up, the remaining organism that was assimilated is still living tissue.

Could the Borg really adapt to molecular acid? I would imagine that this would make for an interesting catalyst.

Also, if the Borg could, in fact adapt to acid blood, who's to say that they could assimilate a Xeno and incorporate acid-proof hardware into the alien?


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Being extremely adaptive is one (if not the) of the Borg's main strengths; why they're so dangerous. Now, this translates into technology in the show/movies. ie you hit them with something, a few dead Borg later; they've adapted and it doesn't affect them anymore.

Stands to reason with the thousands (millions?) or worlds the Borg assimilated and the diversity of those they assimilated, they have some way of adapting their technology to mess with each species' distinct biology.

The one known time they couldn't do it, was with Species 8472; they were from a different dimension, their DNA was hundreds more times as complex than anything from 'our' dimension and their technology was biologically based and extremely advanced. I don't think the Xenomorphs fall under any of those categories.

Damn, I know way to much for not being a Trekkie.


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What about a full scale assault on the Borg? What if the entire hive of Xenos just went completely batshit and pulled a "Braveheart" on the advancing Borg? I doubt that their technology could "adapt" to an all out melee attack from hostile and aggressive aliens, no?

Imagine a fecking swarm of Army ants going against a swarm of Bullet ants. (I'm reduced to animalistic analogies here) The Bullet ants (Borg) are more dangerous, in that, their bite (technology) is significantly more painful and their physiology is more complex. The Army ant (Xenos) are smaller in size, but by sheer number are more powerful in group attack. Does this make sense? Or do I need to drink another beer?


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In your scenario, the Borg could easily just destroy the ship with repeated weapons fire, if they had no intention of boarding (beaming) and assimilating the Xenomorphs after they took what they wanted from the ship technology-wise.

If they did transport over, a Borg drone would prove difficult (not impossible) for a Xenomorph warrior to take out, as they're extremely strong and durable due to their implants (they also have personal shielding, this could factor in). They would try and inject their nanos into the Xenos that attacked, I'd suspect that early attempts would fail due to the acid blood (though the Borg technology is extremely advanced, so it very could be resistant to acid from the start), then it would be a matter of the Borg either adapting to counter the blood's corrosive properties and assimilating the Xenomorphs; if they couldn't, they would just destroy them via weapon's fire. Granted, many a Borg would probably die in the process, but there are hundreds of thousands of Drones in a single Borg Cube and those that die, can repaired and reanimated if the damage isn't too extensive.


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Hmm. You could be on to something. Trekkie. stick out tongue


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Hmm. You could be on to something. Trekkie. stick out tongue


One thing of note, a Xeno-Drone would be bad-ass in a fight. Combination of the Xenomorphs inherent speed/agility, with Borg technology to make it stronger and far more resistant to attacks would be one serious combatant.


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Does a Xeno, in fact, have a mind of it's own? It seems to me that every Xeno is merely 100% aggressive mentality with almost no rationale at all.

Like Ash said in Alien:

"I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."


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The Borgs technology is very advanced. Although, Aliens showed us that technology doesnt mean dick against an enemy like the Xenomorphs i'm thinking Borg technology would be sufficient enough for an easy victory. The Borg and the Aliens are essentially the same. The Borg just happen to be technologically aware.


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Borg tech ftw. As long as they can adapt to acid(couldn't do bullets) they'll be fine.

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Does a Xeno, in fact, have a mind of it's own? It seems to me that every Xeno is merely 100% aggressive mentality with almost no rationale at all.

Like Ash said in Alien:

"I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."


Yeah, they've shown intelligence. In Alien 4, 2-3 grouped together to kill one of their own to use it's blood as a means of escape.

That is a good quote, but it doesn't negate an intelligence, just that the Xenomorph knows it's purpose and carriers forth without a second thought.


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Bump.


What say you, Sadako? I like your posts about shit like this.


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I still say that the Xenos would have a sporting chance, what with their sheer numbers and all.


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Does a Xeno, in fact, have a mind of it's own? It seems to me that every Xeno is merely 100% aggressive mentality with almost no rationale at all.

Like Ash said in Alien:

"I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."


Shit..... That describes Rambo...!! stick out tongue
(or at least Patrick Bateman...)
And intelligence was not on that list.

They were smart enough to cut the power in Aliens, and knew to put all the hostages in a place you darent attack..... Like under the systems of the colony's atmoshere processing...that if you disrupt the whole colony goes boom.

The instances having found its way through all that ship to the Narcissus in 'Alien', to escape the impending destruction of the Nostromo.... The queen was smart enough to stowaway in the landing gear compartment of the dropship in Aliens...

The instances like in Alien Resurrection where 3 realise they were trapped and decided it was best to sacrifice one of their own to melt through the floor to escape...


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I think the Aliens made their Hive under the Reactors because of the heat.

They are definitely very intelligent, though. In Aliens, we only got to glimpse the full potential of their intelligence because, i believe, they were relying on their numbers more than anything.

I still don't know how the borg technology works. How human tissue can adapt and defend against ultra hot phasers is beyond my understanding. If the Borg can't adapt to fire then how would they be able to adapt to Acid? if Borgs can adapt to the Aliens blood. This doesn't count the Aliens out though. The Aliens still have their communicative abilities, blinding speed and razor sharp, claws, teeth and tail. If the Borg can in deed adapt to Alien blood i think it then becomes a numbers game.

Although, the Borg could just use their ships weaponry to wipe the Aliens out.


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Each Borg has it's own personal shielding; that is what adapts and protects them from phaser fire.

As far as the Borg adapting their nannites to resist acid and therefore assimilate a Xenomorph, as I said above, the Borg have assimilated thousands (hundreds of?) of different species with varying physiology's, so it isn't beyond reason that they could do the same with the Xenomorphs given a few trial and error attempts. Also, they have highly advanced technology (well beyond what is seen in the Alien's franchise), so it is also reasonable that their advanced alloys wouldn't succumb to acid from the get-go, after all, their ships have a healing factor.

On a one-on-one fight, a Borg would prove difficult for a Xenomorph to kill, Borg are extremely strong and durable due to their implants, so a mass Xenomorph swarm attacking a formation of Drones wouldn't necessarily be a Borg death slaughter, given the numbers are similar.


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I still say that the Xenos would have a sporting chance, what with their sheer numbers and all.


A Borg Cube can hold hundreds of thousands of Drones.


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I think the Aliens made their Hive under the Reactors because of the heat.


A reasonable presumption.

I do question the concept of the Alien's need for any specific heat though. It seems to be able to function in extreme cold (even in space) and survived being encased temporarily in molten lead (until it was dowsed in cold water minutes).

It doesnt seem to like flame throwers though.

Confusing stuff.


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Well after rethinking I must say, Borg Drones might be ****ed here. Xeno drones are a heck of alot faster here and wwaaayyy more agile. I don't see the Borg stopping the Xeno Drones from impaling them with their tales. And I just don't see Borg adapting to acidic blood.

I like the Xenomorphs here in a stomp.

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